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Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
34
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:50:34 -
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Implant names are confusing and could use a usability pass. |

Cade Windstalker
735
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:51:24 -
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Pretty sure those are on the block for tiericide, but it's probably a ways down the list since Implants affect almost everything in the game.
If it's not on the list though it absolutely should be! |

Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
3558
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Posted - 2017.02.04 21:43:11 -
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They already did this. The implants literally say the name of the related skill, the slot number, and the bonus amount.
Seriously!
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Remote Armor Repair Systems RA-705
If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3075
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Posted - 2017.02.04 22:27:02 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:They already did this. The implants literally say the name of the related skill, the slot number, and the bonus amount.
Seriously!
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Remote Armor Repair Systems RA-705
I would have put the "flavor" part of the name after the skill name but yeah, it's pretty much right there. |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3745
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Posted - 2017.02.04 22:32:20 -
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What would you do with them? Cause all the info is there.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3721
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Posted - 2017.02.05 01:12:10 -
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going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect
BLOPS Hauler
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elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1589
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Posted - 2017.02.05 04:14:40 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect
B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
676
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Posted - 2017.02.05 04:17:58 -
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learn your lore people.
Just Add Water
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3721
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Posted - 2017.02.05 06:26:42 -
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elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..
I have no issue with it to me changing these names we may as well change all the ship names to say what they do as well. There just seemed to be confusion
BLOPS Hauler
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Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
34
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Posted - 2017.02.05 12:16:04 -
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Yes it's the "flavor" part that annoys me. They all look very similar, it's hard to find an implant, and near impossible to remember what it's called to find it again in future. You have to remember the slot and the flavour text, it's crazy difficult. |
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Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
19
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Posted - 2017.02.05 16:02:47 -
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Captain Campion wrote:Yes it's the "flavor" part that annoys me. They all look very similar, it's hard to find an implant, and near impossible to remember what it's called to find it again in future. You have to remember the slot and the flavour text, it's crazy difficult.
Honestly just search Powergrid Implant and you'll find what you need through the market. I don't think its necessary changing any of the implant names |

Tabyll Altol
Vision Inc Hole Control
181
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Posted - 2017.02.09 13:51:25 -
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Captain Campion wrote:Implant names are confusing and could use a usability pass.
Can you check your client if you have the right language settings ?
They are good to see and if you can-Št read them check the details.
-1 |

Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1601
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Posted - 2017.02.09 18:00:16 -
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FFS, if you have a hard time remembering, write yourself a note or something. There's even a notepad feature in the damned game.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Cristl
533
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Posted - 2017.02.09 18:31:51 -
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I'm a bit lost here. By implant does the OP mean hardwire? If so, they got a good renaming pass not that long ago. They are much easier to find now. |

Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
37
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Posted - 2017.02.09 19:12:42 -
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It's the flavour text for example.
How is someone supposed to know that...
Inherent Implants 'Noble' * means Armor * ?
or
Zainou 'Gypsy' * means EW * or Electronics * ?
or
Inherent Implants 'Squire' * means Capacitor * ?
There's just no way a person can know this?..
They would be much easier to use if they were named based on the attribute they affect and what percentage they affect it.
E.g. Armor Rep Cycle 5% ECM Cap Use 5% Total Cap 5%
There's a second part to this relating to the percentage being at the end, so in my market UI I see:
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
I know I can resize it, but it's totally avoidable.
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Cade Windstalker
752
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Posted - 2017.02.09 19:21:39 -
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Stuff like "Inherent Implants 'Squire' *" doesn't mean Capacitor, it's the company that makes the implant followed by the brand name of that line of implants.
You may not like stuff like that but I think it makes the world feel more immersive and lived in than if the implants were just called "5% cap recharge implant". |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3750
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Posted - 2017.02.10 02:22:52 -
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Captain Campion wrote: Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
I know I can resize it, but it's totally avoidable.
It goes:
01 02 03 04 05 06
Referring to the percentage boost.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
531
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Posted - 2017.02.10 11:57:49 -
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elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..
Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.
Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example? |

Lugh Crow-Slave
3761
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Posted - 2017.02.10 12:40:53 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?
how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss?
BLOPS Hauler
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5259
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Posted - 2017.02.10 14:09:14 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?
Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone? |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3761
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Posted - 2017.02.10 14:17:44 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example? Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone?
......
Yes....
BLOPS Hauler
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Cade Windstalker
757
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Posted - 2017.02.10 15:44:26 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone? ...... Yes.... 
I believe that's called economic stimulus.
Also an important and expensive lesson for anyone with all that money and all that lack of reading...  |

elitatwo
Dicker Quick and Hyde Defense Attorneys O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1594
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Posted - 2017.02.10 17:28:17 -
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Are you saying a high-grade snake set is not so good in a moros?
Eve Minions is recruiting.
This is the law of ship progression!
Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
534
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Posted - 2017.02.10 18:20:47 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example? how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss?
There's this large new symbol on the left side of your screen. If you click on it, it shows every major ship in EVE. Complete with pictures and everything. That's obviously different from having to search through the market to read the description of something one by one. |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3751
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:58:58 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:
Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.
Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?
All the implants are in one place on the market. Show info on one and you can quickly figure out what everything within that set does. Just check one of each name. There aren't that many sets. How much of a spoilt brat do you have to be to refuse to show info on maybe 10 items.
Should we apply your logic to everything? Rename Minmatar to 'the speedy guys with pea shooters, missiles, drones some armour some shield, some neither' and Gallente to 'frenchy in yo' face brawlers and has drones folks'.
Has reading more than two sentences become so ******* unbearable...?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5908
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:37:11 -
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Captain Campion wrote:
[snip]
Inherent Implants 'Squire' * means Capacitor * ?
There's just no way a person can know this?..
[snip]
There's a second part to this relating to the percentage being at the end, so in my market UI I see:
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-.... Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
I know I can resize it, but it's totally avoidable.
Wut? Let me help you:
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
'Squire' Capacitor Management
'Squire' Capacitor
Does that help? 
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1601
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:42:59 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example? Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone? ...... Yes.... 
Then they're idiots and deserve what they get. Sorry, but the mollycoddling has to stop somewhere.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1601
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:44:54 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:elitatwo wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5
halo
snake
crystal
slave
ect B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing.. Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc. Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example? how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss? There's this large new symbol on the left side of your screen. If you click on it, it shows every major ship in EVE. Complete with pictures and everything. That's obviously different from having to search through the market to read the description of something one by one.
I know it's awesome. I think it's great how it tells people how to best fit each ship, and which ships are completely useless right now because of the proliferation of other ships. That's totally great for new players.
Oh wait...
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
535
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Posted - 2017.02.10 23:33:57 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Owen Levanth wrote:
Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.
Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?
All the implants are in one place on the market. Show info on one and you can quickly figure out what everything within that set does. Just check one of each name. There aren't that many sets. How much of a spoilt brat do you have to be to refuse to show info on maybe 10 items. Should we apply your logic to everything? Rename Minmatar to 'the speedy guys with pea shooters, missiles, drones some armour some shield, some neither' and Gallente to 'frenchy in yo' face brawlers and has drones folks'. Has reading more than two sentences become so ******* unbearable...?
My logic? Renaming? I think you've confused me with someone else.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3752
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Posted - 2017.02.11 02:38:54 -
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Your logic: noobs are so dumb they take names literally and are incapable of pressing show info.
What about the word 'minmatar' explains to new players the design philosophy of minmatar ships? Nothing. They look it up.
You're trying to make out as though looking up the implants in the market is difficult or time consuming. It's not.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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