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Muck Raker
Gutter Press
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:19:00 -
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Astonishing news reaches Gutter Press of a sensational row involving a Gallente academic and their remarks about the Caldari.
Dr. Yvormes, author of best-sellers including "The Caldari Question" and "Civilising the Civire", was arrested as he was lecturing a group of university students in the city of Hueromont on Gallente Prime!
According to eyewitness reports, Dr. Yvormes had just started speaking on the Caldari problem, when Federal Police agents arrived and after a scuffle, arrested and took him away!
Sen-sational!
"It was astonishing" said one student. "Dr. Yvormes was telling us about the Caldari genetic criminality, when the fuzz just turned up and started beating people, telling us to disperse."
"Yah, it was like, He'd said how Salvador Sarpati, Sansha Kuvakei, Omir Sarikusa, the Gurista dudes, and the Angel cartel, are all Caldari or had Caldari leaders in them, and they're all like, criminal organisations as a result." said another student.
"well, like, I think it was right to arrest him, because he like, said that because of genetic criminality, the Caldari should all be like, imprisoned, and a guy stood up and said that that was slavery and he should be ashamed, then the police arrived" said a third student.
"The police shouldn't you know, be arresting people. What about free speech?" said a fourth student.
Incredible!
Opinions are also divided amongst Hueromont citizens!
A local politician had this to say: "Hueromont isn't the place for this kind of shenanigan"
An air taxi driver said: "Caldari this, caldari that, I'm sick of it, I tell you what. They should all just shove off in my opinion. The Federals too. Hueromont's had enough of being a political football. "
Amazing!
Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover. Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours! |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:00:00 -
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But you didn't asked the police about why he was arested real "pro-reporter". |

Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.27 18:34:00 -
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Omir Sarikusa is no criminal, he is a great man. The words of this "Dr." Yvormes are nothing but slanderous lies and i hope to see him shown the error of his ways. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |

Thgil Goldcore
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:20:00 -
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Muck Raker wrote:
Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover.
much better tag line than the old thing.
Still, goes to show the weakness of the Federation. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:37:00 -
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Thgil Goldcore wrote:Muck Raker wrote:
Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover.
Still, goes to show the weakness of the Federation.
Interesting, how did you come to such conclusion?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2011.12.27 22:41:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Thgil Goldcore wrote:Muck Raker wrote:
Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover.
Still, goes to show the weakness of the Federation. Interesting, how did you come to such conclusion?
The Scope not covering the great stories that Gutter Press does shows the degeneration in quality of the Gallente in general.
... or somesuch drivel. |

Mikkel Lybecker
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.12.28 01:06:00 -
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This story surely must be fake. A group of Gallente University students actually were attending a lecture? We all know that doesn't happen. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
212
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Posted - 2011.12.28 01:34:00 -
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Mikkel Lybecker wrote:This story surely must be fake. A group of Gallente University students actually were attending a lecture? We all know that doesn't happen.
Some of us took our time at UoC seriously y'know...
I'm more surprised the police took someone away for anti Caldari remarks, I'd expect them to promote this sort of crap. |

Mikkel Lybecker
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.12.28 01:49:00 -
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My PA went to UoC. She told me that the only lecture people actually went to was the first one, to exchange datapad logins, find out what books you had to buy and check out who else in the course was potential date or drinking buddy material. After that everyone just corresponds by datapad and only meet socially. If the story had read that a bunch of Gallente University students had been beaten up by police after an anti-Caldari rant escalated into a drunken brawl while out on the town pissed as a newt, that would have been a lot more credible. Whoever's fabricating stories for Gutter Press these days needs a cultural research assistant. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
212
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Posted - 2011.12.28 02:12:00 -
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Mikkel Lybecker wrote:My PA went to UoC. She told me that the only lecture people actually went to was the first one, to exchange datapad logins, find out what books you had to buy and check out who else in the course was potential date or drinking buddy material.
Don't tell me she studied one of those joke courses like Social Studies.
Depends what you studied personally, I was too busy with the training ships and flight sims to goof off, knew some guys who were studying physics who's idea of fun was their work. Different strokes for different folks, not everyone at UoC was a drunken timewaster.
If the news story had been anti war protests by groups of students at a rally being attacked by agents from the FIO, then it'd sound more believable. |
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Mikkel Lybecker
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.12.28 03:10:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:idea of fun was their work
What is this nonsense you are talking.
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
212
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Posted - 2011.12.28 03:16:00 -
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Mikkel Lybecker wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:idea of fun was their work What is this nonsense you are talking.
When you find out you can study your favourite hobby as a profession.
Mine was flying, theirs was making stuff blow up as effectively as possible. |

Mikkel Lybecker
Gradient Electus Matari
45
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Posted - 2011.12.28 04:24:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Mikkel Lybecker wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:idea of fun was their work What is this nonsense you are talking. When you find out you can study your favourite hobby as a profession. Mine was flying, theirs was making stuff blow up as effectively as possible.
That's like saying shovelling dirt is a hobby. |

Muck Raker
Gutter Press
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Posted - 2011.12.28 10:24:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:I'm more surprised the police took someone away for anti Caldari remarks.
A source informs us the official reason was "Unpaid parking tickets". A different source informs us the chief of police has a wife whose great grandmother was from Caldari Prime.
Most local politicians today are saying that Dr. Yvormes remarks are "An Insult to the loyal ethnic Caldari that have made the Federation their home, and contributed to the inclusive prosperity that the Federation is renowned for."
A dissenting group have said Dr. Yvormes was entirely right, and that it is not slavery to subject an entire people to imprisonment and forced labour for life, because they are criminals, due to having the Caldari Criminal Chromosome.
Meanwhile, an arts critic has suggested the police didn't go far enough, because "The books are a literary crime."
Opinions are divided, but Diversity is Strength in the Federation. Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours! |

Yazus Kor
Kotharat Logistics
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Posted - 2011.12.28 11:01:00 -
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Muck Raker wrote: Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover.
All of it then?
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.12.28 14:02:00 -
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Muck Raker wrote:Meanwhile, an arts critic has suggested the police didn't go far enough, because "The books are a literary crime."
I would like to know the name of this source. I think I will be subscribing to their newsletter. |

Sanadras Riahn
Molten Metalworks
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Posted - 2011.12.28 14:16:00 -
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Mikkel Lybecker wrote: That's like saying shovelling dirt is a hobby.
Hey, somebody gets a kick out of it somewhere. "This is our way of wisdom, warrior. To be true. To be full. To include our hearts in every aspect of what we do. --- Let those that fly cold numbers be the Amarr. We fly better than that."---Alica Wildfire, inscribed on the inside and outer shell of Sanadras' Capsule. |

Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Dragoons.
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Posted - 2011.12.28 15:58:00 -
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Muck Raker wrote:Gutter Press will continue to investigate the news the Scope doesn't cover.
There is a reason for that.
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Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.29 10:36:00 -
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Good on the police to arrest this lunatic. If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say, we would be no better than the slavers of the Amarrian Empire.
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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.29 11:05:00 -
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Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things. .domination malakim .stillwater |
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
218
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Posted - 2011.12.29 13:10:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things.
To be fair, the Caldari set a precedent there. |

Lyn Farel
Extropian Technologies
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Posted - 2011.12.29 14:13:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things. To be fair, the Caldari set a precedent there.
Don't we live in a world of pots and kettles ? |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
218
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:36:00 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things. To be fair, the Caldari set a precedent there. Don't we live in a world of pots and kettles ?
Sadly so, one guy crashes a Carrier and kills millions, and is deemed a hero and key part of a race's culture.
The other guy does it and kills millions, and is used as a symbol of hate and scorn and justification for anything and everything.
Quite frankly, both were criminal mass murderers. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.12.29 20:18:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things. To be fair, the Caldari set a precedent there.
Quote:...full scale war...
Oh really...
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Alain Octirant
Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:58:00 -
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This is total poppycock. A Gallente academic, arrested, for having the courage to state an opinion that's counter to the groupthink.
This is why I have been saying for some time that what we need is smaller, less intrusive government.
Perhaps it would be best if, rather than harassing Gallentean citizens, the Federal government instead focused on our real enemies, external and internal. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
218
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:59:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:If the Federation went along with what this quack had to say...
Oh, you mean like ramming Nyx class Supercarriers into caldari stations in assassination attempts and then waging a full scale war against the State? Hell, thank God they would never do such things. To be fair, the Caldari set a precedent there. Quote:...full scale war... Oh really...
The Caldari did it in reverse, started with Rouvenor and ended in Hueromont. |

Paul J Keating
The Light on the Hill
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Posted - 2011.12.29 23:21:00 -
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Alain Octirant wrote:This is total poppycock. A Gallente academic, arrested, for having the courage to state an opinion that's counter to the groupthink.
This is why I have been saying for some time that what we need is smaller, less intrusive government.
Perhaps it would be best if, rather than harassing Gallentean citizens, the Federal government instead focused on our real enemies, external and internal.
I know racially motivated hate speech is du jour in other parts of the galaxy; not too surprising a rat such as yourself would piggy back onto that sentiment.
Caellach Marellus wrote: Sadly so, one guy crashes a Carrier and kills millions, and is deemed a hero and key part of a race's culture.
The other guy does it and kills millions, and is used as a symbol of hate and scorn and justification for anything and everything.
Quite frankly, both were criminal mass murderers.
Tovil-Toba attacked a civilian target during wartime while conducting offensive operations for the Caldari Navy. Noir, contrary to what some crackpots say, was not acting under orders from Federal authorities to attack anything.
Realistically it's a good thing the Federation has not declared Noir a hero, we shouldn't be celebrating wanton carnage. |

Alain Octirant
Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.12.30 00:19:00 -
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Paul J Keating wrote:
I know racially motivated hate speech is du jour in other parts of the galaxy; not too surprising a rat such as yourself would piggy back onto that sentiment.
Oh, Keating, you'd be the expert on groupthink. You're the clusters biggest pedlar of it. That and namby-pamby wishy-washy rubbish that turns a rosy-coloured blind eye to the truth of a cold and uncaring universe. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
371
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:43:00 -
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Paul J Keating wrote:Realistically it's a good thing the Federation has not declared Noir a hero, we shouldn't be celebrating wanton carnage.
Neither are heros. I was just using the example after someone brought up Noir that it was hardly the first time this has happened, and that when you treat your own man who committed the same act as a hero, it's a little hypocritical to be offended and using it as an insult the second time around.
I'd just prefer people look to a more equal view, in my opinion it's that they were both mass murderers and did nothing heroic at all. |
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