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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.25 09:56:00 -
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I've had this thory for about a month now. Not so sure what to think of it. As you all know light has a speed barrier. So being in a planet about 20.5 light years away woulnd't make a the usual chat a good thing to do. However I have come up with an instant way to get a message to somewhere 20.5 years away.
You have a very thin "string" that goes from one place to the other. there are 2 drawbacks though.
1) you need a ****load of string (not string string idiots, maybe metal or somthing I don't know). 2) String could get "cut" by something. unexpected.
Apart from those two if would make messaging instant as you pull the string back and forth in some sort of morse code launguage.
Just a thought I got in my head the other day as I said. Anyone got any comments?
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Odinegras
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Posted - 2007.04.25 10:05:00 -
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Use a time machine... Simple
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El Berto
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.25 10:05:00 -
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The speed of light in a vacuum is the fastest anything (well non-exotic thing) can travel. The fact your sending infomation down some string makes no difference, end of discussion.
There are other ways to 'cheat' this, quantum tunneling, partical entanglement, etc. However these are not well understood or anywhere near application and may never be.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.25 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: El Berto Edited by: El Berto on 25/04/2007 10:05:17 The speed of light in a vacuum is the fastest anything (well non-exotic thing) can travel. The fact your sending infomation down some string makes no difference, end of discussion.
There are other ways to 'cheat' this, quantum tunneling, particle entanglement, etc. However these are not well understood or anywhere near application and may never be.
you do realize that the whole point in the string was to PULL it in small sequences. Pulling an OBJECT is instantanoues because the atms pull each other. You must of misread it and though of sending light or something through the string however no that was not my point.
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Destiny Calling
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.25 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: El Berto Edited by: El Berto on 25/04/2007 10:05:17 The speed of light in a vacuum is the fastest anything (well non-exotic thing) can travel. The fact your sending infomation down some string makes no difference, end of discussion.
There are other ways to 'cheat' this, quantum tunneling, particle entanglement, etc. However these are not well understood or anywhere near application and may never be.
you do realize that the whole point in the string was to PULL it in small sequences. Pulling an OBJECT is instantanoues because the atms pull each other. You must of misread it and though of sending light or something through the string however no that was not my point.
Its OK I got you. But yeah **** loads of 'string' required and we are talking a whole shed load. By the time youve laid the thing there you will have forgotten what the point of it was.
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El Berto
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.25 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: El Berto Edited by: El Berto on 25/04/2007 10:05:17 The speed of light in a vacuum is the fastest anything (well non-exotic thing) can travel. The fact your sending infomation down some string makes no difference, end of discussion.
There are other ways to 'cheat' this, quantum tunneling, particle entanglement, etc. However these are not well understood or anywhere near application and may never be.
you do realize that the whole point in the string was to PULL it in small sequences. Pulling an OBJECT is instantanoues because the atms pull each other. You must of misread it and though of sending light or something through the string however no that was not my point.
Eh, missed that, but the same thing applies. Your 'string' isn't going to be perfectly rigid. So any information you are going to transmit is going to be in the form of compresions and expansions in the string, and those will travel much slower than the speed of light. This is assuming you somehow magically could compensate for the ****load of noise due to virbrations on a 20LY string. Even if it was rigid, the force you apply at your end is still going to take at least 20 years to apply to the whole structure as it's going to be carried by the electromagnetic bonds between the particles of this magical string.
Its a nice idea, but it doesn't apply outside of a model universe that doesn't really reflect our own.
Damn, I'm bored.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.25 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: El Berto
Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: El Berto Edited by: El Berto on 25/04/2007 10:05:17 The speed of light in a vacuum is the fastest anything (well non-exotic thing) can travel. The fact your sending infomation down some string makes no difference, end of discussion.
There are other ways to 'cheat' this, quantum tunneling, particle entanglement, etc. However these are not well understood or anywhere near application and may never be.
you do realize that the whole point in the string was to PULL it in small sequences. Pulling an OBJECT is instantanoues because the atms pull each other. You must of misread it and though of sending light or something through the string however no that was not my point.
Eh, missed that, but the same thing applies. Your 'string' isn't going to be perfectly rigid. So any information you are going to transmit is going to be in the form of compresions and expansions in the string, and those will travel much slower than the speed of light. This is assuming you somehow magically could compensate for the ****load of noise due to virbrations on a 20LY string. Even if it was rigid, the force you apply at your end is still going to take at least 20 years to apply to the whole structure as it's going to be carried by the electromagnetic bonds between the particles of this magical string.
Its a nice idea, but it doesn't apply outside of a model universe that doesn't really reflect our own.
Damn, I'm bored.
Ok I got ya now lol 
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.25 12:04:00 -
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Firing pulse lasers would get the message across real fast. 
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.25 12:29:00 -
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It wouldn't work, even in theory. "Pulling the string" would simply send a wave down the string, and this wave cannot travel faster than light, no matter how tightly the atoms are bound together. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Pellaeon DuGalle
Caldari Deep Black Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.25 12:57:00 -
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What about a long stick? so no waves, just a stick going back and forth? Ok, ignoring the huge power requirements of moving a stick 20.5 light years long...
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DaHeaVYFo
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.04.25 13:15:00 -
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Bohr proved that instant messaging existed right? They did an experiment with a 'string' over 10Km and proved that instant messaging took place? It's been long...
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.25 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Bohr proved that instant messaging existed right? They did an experiment with a 'string' over 10Km and proved that instant messaging took place? It's been long...
dunno if that is serious or taking the micky out of me.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.25 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Bohr proved that instant messaging existed right? They did an experiment with a 'string' over 10Km and proved that instant messaging took place? It's been long...
Are you referring to the EPR paradox regarding entangled particles, or "spooky action at a distance" as it's sometimes called?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.25 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle What about a long stick? so no waves, just a stick going back and forth? Ok, ignoring the huge power requirements of moving a stick 20.5 light years long...
There would still be a delay, as you're pushing atoms at one end, which push some more atoms, which push some more atoms, which push yet atoms etc etc.
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VanNostrum
The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.25 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle What about a long stick? so no waves, just a stick going back and forth? Ok, ignoring the huge power requirements of moving a stick 20.5 light years long...
There would still be a delay, as you're pushing atoms at one end, which push some more atoms, which push some more atoms, which push yet atoms etc etc.
indeed, photons are faster hence speed of light being fastest speed
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Rei Oko
knights of Freedom
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Odinegras Use a time machine... Simple
I lol'd XD
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