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Peter Armstrong Caldari 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.25 23:18:00 - [31] i some what disagree about wales tho. well in the north and mid wales. north wales (wrexham) i would say safer than alot of places. Tho no where any country better each other. In my view as i been to the states both country have pro and cons. I think US had a better way in teaching people to spell correctly and grammer better than the average british (Like Me). Tho i find UK has a better law system that doesnt take the **** when in US i feel it does. Uk does have a problem and i think its lack of law enforcment and too much drinking. Dont get me wrong i love it be when people drink and cant handle it thats annoying. ------------------------------------ It's all part of the Experiance!
Yoshimako	Posted - 2007.04.25 23:22:00 - [32] Edited by: Yoshimako on 25/04/2007 23:21:15 Originally by: Lithalnas there is a class gap forming between the educated(BS/BA/PHd) and the uneducated(high school). Why is this gap forming, because its all about money, those with the higher education get higher paying jobs and therefor join the upper middle class, those who remain uneducated stay in the blue collar jobs that don't pay as well. With this difference in income the two parties separate and issues of money become a bone of contention between them. You know, a number of people in the construction industry often make fun of educated idiots. You get stupid people in every walk of life, theres more then a small ammount of idiots in the construction industry but theres also a fair number of educated people that surprise me with the fact that they know how to tie their shoe laces. Technically, on paper, I am a fairly uneducated person. I finished high school, went to college for a year full time and then I completed a 3 year apprenticeship. I have no "higher" education but I would consider myself to be far more intellegent than some of the educated people I have met. I could have gone to uni, I could have done an engineering degree, hell I still can. For the main part however, it would bore me senseless, sitting in lecture after lecture for 4 years? I hated school, I didn't go much at all in years 9 and 10, and I spent the majority of year 11 stoned (including the exams) so I can't see that university would suit me at the moment. Do I regret not doing it? God no, I have made more money doing what im doing then I would have going the uni route, I have no debt and I have learned more about the real world then someone going to uni straight out of school ever could have. Basically? People are stupid. A person can be very intellegent. Many people are. If you group them together however they, as a whole, are stupid.
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.25 23:51:00 - [33] Originally by: Fitz Farseer I am really thinking that corporate media is trying to purposely Dumb a large majority of us down. Lets face it, in the last few decades people are getting stupider and stupider.. There are some very bright people but in ratio peoples IQ's are going down. I think one of the reasons is Media that tell people how and what to believe and think. and the other is the lack brain exercise, everything right now is pretty much down by computers. Bah. My theory is there's a limited amount of intelligence to be spread across the entirety of humanity. More people = people less smart. Give it a few years = people OOH SHINY ROCK ME WANT. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2007.04.26 01:53:00 - [34] Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Fitz Farseer I am really thinking that corporate media is trying to purposely Dumb a large majority of us down. Lets face it, in the last few decades people are getting stupider and stupider.. There are some very bright people but in ratio peoples IQ's are going down. I think one of the reasons is Media that tell people how and what to believe and think. and the other is the lack brain exercise, everything right now is pretty much down by computers. Bah. My theory is there's a limited amount of intelligence to be spread across the entirety of humanity. More people = people less smart. Give it a few years = people OOH SHINY ROCK ME WANT. Less people are needed to run the circus thus my theory holds true, the expendables are being used as pawns by the powerbrokers and failing to see that you are that someone expendable in a very dangerous situation, well then you gotta question your wits.
Peter Armstrong Caldari 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.26 11:37:00 - [35] Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Fitz Farseer I am really thinking that corporate media is trying to purposely Dumb a large majority of us down. Lets face it, in the last few decades people are getting stupider and stupider.. There are some very bright people but in ratio peoples IQ's are going down. I think one of the reasons is Media that tell people how and what to believe and think. and the other is the lack brain exercise, everything right now is pretty much down by computers. Bah. My theory is there's a limited amount of intelligence to be spread across the entirety of humanity. More people = people less smart. Give it a few years = people OOH SHINY ROCK ME WANT. i thought we doing that? pete looks at the shiny veld ------------------------------------ It's all part of the Experiance!
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.04.26 12:14:00 - [36] we've pretty much always been dumb IMO. personally i think it's a pretty low period in human history, but i'd like to think it's cyclic and we may get our **** together some time soon. and TV is pretty much evil in regard to IQ and $ read this http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/04/25/1177180691183.html?from=top5
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.04.26 13:20:00 - [37] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/04/2007 13:24:37 Originally by: Ealiom Edited by: Ealiom on 25/04/2007 13:12:58 I think we can all agree that the worlds stupid can find themselves in all sorts of positions in life. Be it military, doctors, bricklayers, poloticians, KFC, or architects - [looks att he guy across from me] 'yeah YOU' P.S. Wait a minute Fitz Farseer. Assassins Apprentice! Eali gives himself a pat on the back. You sir sound like a sore loser LIBERAL! Anyways, there are more stupid ppl watching liberal biased media than anything else... These ppl comprise the vast majority of the US' "stupid population" You know, the ppl who vote for Democrats & such... I blame the liberals for wanting to make ppl more stupid, and to not have a brain of their own, letting government run their lives... People will stay stupid if they feel comfortable doing do, especially if they can make a living in a politically correct society... This politically correct cuddly wuddly liberal media monster is allowing many ppl to live that way, and to feel comfortable doing so... The US, cuturally, is turning into the EU, and it's a step backwards IMO... Our culture (US) is allowing a lot of morons to succeed in life, procreating and generating more morons... We need a more cut-throat culture to stem the tide of this "moron movement" Building the homestead
Salusa VC	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:27:00 - [38] We are becoming more "thick" no doubt about it. Blame it on what you will, but its a fact that education standards in UK are falling. Just check out the difference between a Chinese University pre-entry exam question and a British Uni 1st Year student exam question!! Linky Last one to leave UK please turn off the lights.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:46:00 - [39] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/04/2007 14:46:05 Originally by: Salusa VC We are becoming more "thick" no doubt about it. Blame it on what you will, but its a fact that education standards in UK are falling. Just check out the difference between a Chinese University pre-entry exam question and a British Uni 1st Year student exam question!! Linky Last one to leave UK please turn off the lights. The thing about exams is that they tend to contain more than one question, and the difficulty of the questions often varies. That's to produce results which show a range of abilities rather than merely separate the people who can from the people who can't. Therefore it's possible that the comparison is between an easy question on the British exam and a difficult one on the Chinese exam. Having said that though, the British question is shockingly easy. The first part is the sort of thing that I was expected to be able to when I was aged thirteen, the second part when I was about eleven (if not earlier), and the last part when I was about fifteen. That was a few years ago though Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:47:00 - [40] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/04/2007 14:43:38 Originally by: Salusa VC We are becoming more "thick" no doubt about it. Blame it on what you will, but its a fact that education standards in UK are falling. Just check out the difference between a Chinese University pre-entry exam question and a British Uni 1st Year student exam question!! Linky Last one to leave UK please turn off the lights. That is a prime example of the way the US education system is heading too... Liberals mucked that up as well... We are more worried about our kids not being oppressed, stressed, classed in different intellectual categories, worried about their "feelings" instead of teaching them what needs to be taught. School is not supposed to be some social gathering where it makes you feel good, you're there to learn, not socialize and learn about *** marriage & so forth... Hell, we are not even keeping score in athletic competitions these days because we don't want to hurt the losers feelings! Our schools are not preparing people for the real world, which is harsh, and does not give a crap if you feel it's "too hard" We can all watch the Asians blow by us because they are doing it right, we are doing it wrong... Life is about succeeding & failing, winning & losing, it's time we start getting back to those basics, instead of worrying about the superficial... Building the homestead
Heriom UNITED KINGDOM MAYHEM THE V I G I L	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:48:00 - [41] Dant know wot ya on about.. EYE am inglish and am wel klever. i neva had tu go 2 yooni or nuffink tu get ware eye am toodae. So shutit moaning bout ejucaytion in this ****ry..its grate Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Sehanine Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:01:00 - [42] Moaning is certainly on the rise in the 21st century.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:17:00 - [43] Stop complaining about people being stupid, use them to your advantage, twisting the truth and molding people around me into situations that i find put me at an advantage is something i do all the time, sometimes just for fun! Actually its just for fun most of the time... A Person is smart, people are stupid.. I firmly believe that the intelligence of a group of individuals can be usually measured by its lowest attribute, what i have noticed is not a lack of knowledge among people (students especially) just a profound lack of common sense. Britain,USA, they are two of the top 5 countries on the planet, (at least economically speaking,( and certainly military wise when concerning the USA)) the majority of the population have become complacent, whereas the Chinese need to keep going at an astounding rate to catch up, as if Europe and the US are two joggers and China is a sprinter, but the joggers are miles ahead.. I do genuinely believe that this situation will lead to war, perhaps not soon, but eventually. As for the government dumming people down intentionally? i don't think so, and if so that would never be a good move, for the reasons that i have stated above, a dumming down of the population would reduce the country's ability to do anything other than throw men into a situation. It would inevitably lead to the rise of nations such as china to a position much superior to that of the USA. Given the population of China and the level of resources they have access to, you would be fighting an enemy with equal or higher technological/scientific ability with much superior numbers, and to me that sounds impossible. I think its possible to discuss this topic without dropping it blatant political slander, don't you? -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:19:00 - [44] I didn't read the post but I saw a post saying something about the military. I thin kit's stupid for a person to sign up to the military jsut to go over seas and fight someone elses war (not that all the wars people involve themselfs in are wrong, but most...). The only time I would allow myself to join the army is if I was truly threated in anyway. Maybe people think it's fun and being in them ilitary however i think the oppisite. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:27:00 - [45] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/04/2007 17:24:08 Originally by: Kaeten I didn't read the post but I saw a post saying something about the military. I thin kit's stupid for a person to sign up to the military jsut to go over seas and fight someone elses war (not that all the wars people involve themselfs in are wrong, but most...). The only time I would allow myself to join the army is if I was truly threated in anyway. Maybe people think it's fun and being in them ilitary however i think the oppisite. Every country has a military. You don't sign up to specifically fight (some do, most I suspect do not). You sign up because you're patriotic to whatever country you belong to, you want to make a career out of it, or you want to use it to jump start a career in some technical field in which the military utilizes... I was going to join the service as opposed to going to university. Since then there have been many wars, I kick myself for not joining when I was younger... It's not only about war... Some people live to serve their country, others live to ridicule their own country & want the country to serve them... And many are stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds their daily lives not knowing how good they have it... We have a lot of those stupid ppl here in the US. Building the homestead
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:32:00 - [46] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/04/2007 17:24:08 Originally by: Kaeten I didn't read the post but I saw a post saying something about the military. I thin kit's stupid for a person to sign up to the military jsut to go over seas and fight someone elses war (not that all the wars people involve themselfs in are wrong, but most...). The only time I would allow myself to join the army is if I was truly threated in anyway. Maybe people think it's fun and being in them ilitary however i think the oppisite. Every country has a military. You don't sign up to specifically fight (some do, most I suspect do not). You sign up because you're patriotic to whatever country you belong to, you want to make a career out of it, or you want to use it to jump start a career in some technical field in which the military utilizes... I was going to join the service as opposed to going to university. Since then there have been many wars, I kick myself for not joining when I was younger... It's not only about war... Some people live to serve their country, others live to ridicule their own country & want the country to serve them... And many are stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds their daily lives not knowing how good they have it... We have a lot of those stupid ppl here in the US. I understand the doing something for the country but aslong as the people controlling the army make stupid decisions that might end your life thats kind of a turn off don't you think? Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:38:00 - [47] Quote: I understand the doing something for the country but aslong as the people controlling the army make stupid decisions that might end your life thats kind of a turn off don't you think? I can't think of a war where that has not happened... You will always have mistakes being made by people above you in the chain of command, that is a risk... Some people have big enough balls to take that risk, others do not... As far as the US military, it's a 100% volunteer force, so if you sign up, you better be damn sure you know what you are getting into. Most ppl do, however there are those who seem surprised that the military is not just there to pay for their college tuition, and then whine about it when times get tough... Now if there is a draft, that's a different story... Building the homestead
Cipher7	Posted - 2007.04.26 18:07:00 - [48] Well it's selective breeding. The only people who are allowed to be free and reproduce are those who are submissive to the law and compliant, "pack humans." Over generations what you're left with is a herd of flag-wavers.
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.27 00:59:00 - [49] I once had a girl ask me how to spell "orange" mind you this is a 15 year old girl not a kindergartener Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.04.27 08:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Sehanine Moaning is certainly on the rise in the 21st century. Especially when I'm around.
Sehanine Caldari Solitary Confinement	Posted - 2007.04.27 09:33:00 - [51] Edited by: Sehanine on 27/04/2007 09:30:08 Originally by: Kaeten I didn't read the post but I saw a post saying something about the military. I thin kit's stupid for a person to sign up to the military jsut to go over seas and fight someone elses war (not that all the wars people involve themselfs in are wrong, but most...). The only time I would allow myself to join the army is if I was truly threated in anyway. Maybe people think it's fun and being in them ilitary however i think the oppisite. The Armed Forces give people who might have no other chance in life the opportunity to have a career and earn some self respect for themselves and their family. It's not all about running around shooting people there are many chances to get qualifications in just about anything you want all paid for by the military. The alternative for many is jail or a life ruined by drugs. You should thank those "stupid" enough to volunteer otherwise we'd still have national service. Edit: I'm not having a go at you or anything
Amphetaminer Grumpy Old Men	Posted - 2007.04.27 09:59:00 - [52] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/04/2007 13:24:37 Originally by: Ealiom Edited by: Ealiom on 25/04/2007 13:12:58 I think we can all agree that the worlds stupid can find themselves in all sorts of positions in life. Be it military, doctors, bricklayers, poloticians, KFC, or architects - [looks att he guy across from me] 'yeah YOU' P.S. Wait a minute Fitz Farseer. Assassins Apprentice! Eali gives himself a pat on the back. are you kidding me? the EU has things done way better then the US (atleast the north western ones). Our crime rates are much lower, we have a great social system, the gouvernments finance a big part of the higher studies so that not only the rich can go to a university. and I think the Republicans only care about cash and to make more money from the poor. There are so many people living in poverty but they rather spend the cash on wars. Also thinks like global warming are completely ignored. But after reading your posts you seem to be a person thats "me first, I dont care about others, eeew feelings are dirty" etc You sir sound like a sore loser LIBERAL! Anyways, there are more stupid ppl watching liberal biased media than anything else... These ppl comprise the vast majority of the US' "stupid population" You know, the ppl who vote for Democrats & such... I blame the liberals for wanting to make ppl more stupid, and to not have a brain of their own, letting government run their lives... People will stay stupid if they feel comfortable doing do, especially if they can make a living in a politically correct society... This politically correct cuddly wuddly liberal media monster is allowing many ppl to live that way, and to feel comfortable doing so... The US, cuturally, is turning into the EU, and it's a step backwards IMO... Our culture (US) is allowing a lot of morons to succeed in life, procreating and generating more morons... We need a more cut-throat culture to stem the tide of this "moron movement"
RedFall Irreligion	Posted - 2007.04.27 14:55:00 - [53] Originally by: Sehanine The Armed Forces give people who might have no other chance in life the opportunity to have a career and earn some self respect for themselves and their family. It's not all about running around shooting people there are many chances to get qualifications in just about anything you want all paid for by the military. Anyone who joins the military for any reason other than to kill people and blow stuff up (or assist those who do) joined for the wrong reasons.
Sehanine Caldari Solitary Confinement	Posted - 2007.04.27 21:41:00 - [54] Originally by: RedFall Originally by: Sehanine The Armed Forces give people who might have no other chance in life the opportunity to have a career and earn some self respect for themselves and their family. It's not all about running around shooting people there are many chances to get qualifications in just about anything you want all paid for by the military. Anyone who joins the military for any reason other than to kill people and blow stuff up (or assist those who do) joined for the wrong reasons. Ok
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:52:00 - [55] Edited by: Neon Genesis on 28/04/2007 08:48:08 Brawndo's got what plants need, it's got electrolytes. _
Adaris Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:12:00 - [56] Originally by: Fitz Farseer Lets face it, in the last few decades people are getting stupider and stupider.. lol that line was funny. Anyways, I agree to an extent. But you have to understand its not there fault. Their just sheep meant to support the wolves. The only decision you can make is... I am going to stay a wolf? * * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.28 13:08:00 - [57] Originally by: RedFall Originally by: Sehanine The Armed Forces give people who might have no other chance in life the opportunity to have a career and earn some self respect for themselves and their family. It's not all about running around shooting people there are many chances to get qualifications in just about anything you want all paid for by the military. Anyone who joins the military for any reason other than to kill people and blow stuff up (or assist those who do) joined for the wrong reasons. You sir, are a 'tard. Personally I joined the British army in the mid 80's at the age of 16 when there were no real prospects for a kid leaving an English comprehensive school with average grades and facing the prospect of being kicked out of the family home so I could learn to "stand on my own two feet" as my father put it. Yeah OK, I shot at people and was in turn fired upon in the 10 years I spent there in various locations, occupational hazard, but it certainly wasn't the reason I joined the military, in fact, I can rattle off more good deeds than I would consider bad. We helped build bridges in Nepal, restored running water to areas of Kuwait, flew with AAC aerial patrols in Hong Kong to catch Chinese smugglers, even sailed on supply and mail drops on HMS ships travelling between the Falklands and South Georgia. Your comment is plainly of the uneducated type usually reserved for playing war in the woods with sticks shouting bang bang, you're dead. Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.04.28 15:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Fitz Farseer -yoink- Yes, the government is making people stupid, public schools are more indoctrination, less education these days. Which is why private schools outperform them massively, and don't have teacher unions trying to push them around.

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