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Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.14 13:55:31 -
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100m3 is a TON of salvage. I didn't consider the Noctis much more than a really expensive salvage destroyer and I think that's still true, with salvaging V you're not losing any cargo by using the destroyer. My question would be, why don't we get rid of an 80mil salvaging hull entirely? |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.16 13:20:16 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:The way to restore the noctis to a state of grace is two fold.
1. remove deployables that automate tractoring - if it's not worth your time, then leave the wrecks behind
2. perma ban lazy players that bring up ideas that automate the game (taking away interaction points, any sense of accomplishment and in general just dumbing down game play).
Yeah, I know, kind of harsh, but there isn't anything wrong with the noctis, it's the MTU that is the problem.
The wreck scanning bonus has merit, but also has problems. Making it the only ship that can scan wrecks sounds great, but it would just become a scanning platform that squad warps it's buddies and then cancels warp. Now I'm all for that, but the risk averse group of players that are rotting out the core of this game would be 'hair on fire' screaming about injustice and what not.
Sensor boost bonus???? NO ship in Eve should get this. I'm good with gate camping, but every gate camp in New Eden will instantly incorporate any ship that gets a sebo bonus into their numbers. Gate camps are in a decent place right now and really don't need that kind of help. You would just create a bigger version of the tackling venture.
I would always rather remove a redundant ship, than get rid of a phenomenal piece of equipment. The Noctis flat out doesn't accomplish anything more than a Marauder does in the field of a salvaging destroyer does after a quick dock. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.17 15:03:54 -
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I'm absolutely against changes to the MTU. They've made mission running and salvaging exceptionally efficient, and they shouldn't be removed for a ship that's already had its role filled admirably,
Another strong point, the Noctis is stupid expensive. A MTU costs a couple mil. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.17 17:32:07 -
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Oh no, by suffer I mean removing a feature that's been added to make a ship more important. The MTU is a convenient way of grabbing all the wrecks, grabbing a Noctis to grab all your wrecks is a less convenient way. Making backwards progress to buff the Noctis doesn't make any sense.
If the Noctis has strong use in Wormholes then its role is apparent and nothing needs to get changed. That thing is several million beyond what I'll spend to salvage. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.18 15:14:54 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Here's a way to make the Noctis viable again......
Let it be the only ship that can salvage capitals (freighters, carriers, dreads, etc).
Titans would still be unsalvageable, of course.
CCP could introduce a Noctis-only salvager module to allow this to be done, or simply make the fitting requirements insane and give the Noctis huge bonuses to let it be able to fit said module.
Oh, and capital salvaging shouldn't be fast...say a cycle time of 5 minutes?
Slightly less with skills, of course, but no faster than 2.5 minutes with max skills/rigs/module bonuses.
Oh, and while salvaging caps it can't be repped/boosted/aided in any way at all, and can't move either.
While we are at it, bloom its sig as if its using a MWD as long at this capital salvager is being used.
Now push the button, Frank.
Salvaging dreadnaught, I didn't realize it was possible to turn the Noctis into even more of a waste of resources. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.02.19 14:30:42 -
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Charley Varrick wrote:Here is a crazy thought....Allow it to tractor all wrecks, not just those owned by the player. It could then be a true salvage ship. It could clean up all those wrecks left behind in belts and missions that some players don't bother with and make some decent ISK pulling illegal salvage. The trade off is it would become flagged and be a big fat juicy target!
Noctis can do this already, check your safety settings. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
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Posted - 2017.03.03 13:39:01 -
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Commander Turret wrote:I think you old guys often forget about the new guys.
I can't run level 4's. For me the easiest/quickest way to make isk is to use a noctice. If you wait for 1 mobile tractor you will probably die of boredom as it is not that quick, it definitely helps.
Salvage for new players is gold..
EDIT- You do not make more isk mining btw.
I promise you that if you had spent that 90mil on fits for a battleship you'd be a lot closer to your goal right now. |
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