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Radchak's Raiders
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Posted - 2017.02.15 10:57:12 -
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People talking about limited engagement timers don't understand the basic mechanics. You only get a limited engagement timer if the target shoots back.
Various mechanics were employed here to accomplish this:
1. He didn't shoot back, so he didn't get a Limited Engagement timer.
2. This also meant he didn't get an aggression timer.
3. Without an aggression timer he was able to eject from ship.
4. Dropping corp can only be done in station OR in space in a pod only (not ship).
5. He used the quit corp option to drop directly to his default NPC corp without having to wait 24 hours to drop roles.
6. A locked ship cannot be boarded except by the owning player, as he was the last pilot in it he was still the owning player (I believe people in the same fleet as the people doing the locking can also board).
7. People who continued to aggress the now neutral player got Concorded. For that to happen the player that died must have had his safety set to red. The OP claims they were all Green/Yellow. I would dispute that, but he may have been lied to by the pilot that died, it is common to cover up a stupid act especially when "exploit" was being shouted.
The bug that appears to have been highlighted by this incident is that drones continued to attack the now neutral player. However, this was partially cancelled out by the fact that they didn't evoke a Concorde response for their owners.
Did the Paladin pilot use an exploit - yes! Do I want it fixed, hell no! This is one of those case of 'be careful what you wish for'. We're all whinging about the 10 second session counter for switching ships in Citadels. I can imagine CCP making a ham fisted attempt to fix this (like no ejecting or switching ships while you have a logoff timer - 15 minutes after being shot at). We are already suffering major PITAs as the result of other bandaid fixes. I say let the Hi sec carebears have a way of saving their blingy PvE ships from leet PvPers too scared to go to low, null or WH space.
Edit: Most of them will never know about it anyway. |
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Posted - 2017.02.15 11:20:29 -
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DioKahn wrote:"7. People who continued to aggress the now neutral player got Concorded. For that to happen the player that died must have had his safety set to red. The OP claims they were all Green/Yellow. I would dispute that, but he may have been lied to by the pilot that died, it is common to cover up a stupid act especially when "exploit" was being shouted."
Exploits were used and abused and then called "game functionality". You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
If the pilot had his safety set to green he would be perfectly entitled to apply for a reimbursement and submit a bug report.
However, how is your statement that he had his safety set to green any less of an opinion, than my statement that it must have been set red?
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Posted - 2017.02.15 11:35:37 -
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DioKahn wrote:I want all pilots to develop this "technique" into their current skill set. I can guarantee you that mercs flying T3's will be ejecting, leaving corp, and flying away with our ships when the fight turns sour. Ive dropped roles and I'm ready to "PvP" in the new EvE.
Dude, you really need to get your head around the mechanics of this game. You should have worked them out by now and I've already explained them in detail above once.
You DO NOT need to drop roles. You can simply quit corp and drop directly to the default NPC corp instantly even with roles assigned. What you can't do is go from one player corp to another player corp while roles are still in effect with the first corp.
Edit: Oh yes, and as Lan Wang has pointed out below, you can't eject with a weapons timer. |
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