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DHB WildCat BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:56:00 - [1] Alright, I am a caldari pilot by nature, so feel free to add or make fun of this set-up 8) Navy Megathron High Slots - 7X Neutron Blaster T2 with Void/Null Mid Slots- 1 Core X type MWD 1 Domination Warp Disruptor 1 Fleeting Web 1 True Sansha Cap Injector Low Slots- 2X Centus X type Armor Repairors 2X Corpum Energized Adaptive Nano Membranes 1 Centus X type Explosive Hardener / or third EANM 1 Shadow Serpentis CPU upgrade 1 Shadow Serpentis Mag Stab 1 Damige Control T2 Rigs- 2X Powergrid Upgrades 1 Armor Repairor Amount *With High grade Slave Set So we have neutrons with T2 Heavy Drones doing about 1000 DPS. Armor tank with both reps doing 1440 per cycle, Resists at EM- 88 EX- 86 TH- 76 KI-76 with over 20k armor. Cap runs out rather quick compared to electrons but with control bursts skill its not too bad. Anyhow what to do you think. (other than OMFG that ship is way to expensive to be practical.... Im not practical 8)) WildCat
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:57:00 - [2] Have you actually tried fitting that? DE
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.04.26 14:59:00 - [3] Yes and it fits, Im flying it right now 8)
Brisi Veto.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Brisi on 26/04/2007 15:14:18 You really need to lose that co-processor, I don't know exactly if it's possible, but here's a few things. Get a Domi Web, 15km range and lower fittings. Get a Gist-X MWD, that Core-X takes 100 CPU and uses a lot more cap. Get a 'Radical' Damage Control Unit, 15 less CPU. That'll save you about 50 CPU iirc. I'm guessing you're already using a -5% Turret CPU implant? Don't know if that's enough to swith out the co-pro for something usefull though, another mag stab would be great, but if that fails, get a officer adaptive nano plating (the 0 CPU kind). Resistance is Fertile.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:21:00 - [5] Yeah I tried to get it to fit with a set-up of that style, but cpu is just too low. And if you try to put a Centus MWD on then PowerGrid is inefficient. Its one hell of a tough fit 8(.
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:30:00 - [6] Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 26/04/2007 15:27:55 Seems good to me ;) Personally I never saw the point in a damage control on a faction armor tanked ship (if your in structure, if means your most likely fighting impossible odds). I messed around a little with your setup; 7 Ion II 1 Domination 100MN MWD (Or the best MWD that uses 75CPU you can get) 1 Domination Disrupter 1 TS Web 1 Heavy Cap Injector II - These can fit 5 as opposed to 4 charges the TS one you fit. 2 Centus X Type Large Rep 3 Centus X Hardeners (exp/kin/therm) 1 Corpum Atype EANM 2 Shadow Serp MFS 1 Powergrid Rig 2 Nano Pumps Will push out more dps, with a slightly stronger tank. 74/77.5/83.8/83.8 emp/exp/kin/therm 1666.35 Rep Ammount NEEDS 5% CPU FOR TURRET REDUCTION IMPLANT!
Eamz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:30:00 - [7] 7x Ion II 1x Medium Diminishing 1x gist mwd 1x domi web 1x domi disruptor 1x TS cap injector 1x Corpus LAR 1x Radical Dmg control 3x 64% Armor Hardener 1x Centum EANM 2x SS Mag Field Stab 1x Auxiliary Nanopump II 1x Nanobot Accelerator II 1x EM Armor Rig I Slaves if you want, no need for cpu implant so 3% more dmg implant, and then you got a 5% rof implant. Sustainable for long periods, tanks roughly 1050 dps average and deals inbetween 1150 and 1200 dps with drones.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:31:00 - [8] I'm very surprised it fits actually. it's sad to see co procs on a ship like that but it seems that a neutron navy mega is almost impossible to fit well without one. one thing i would say is like you mentioned that setup is not sustainable regards cap. running everything would cap you out before long at all especially with 1 or 2 heavy nos on you which seems to be standard bs setup for most. i personally went with an electron uber tank setup at first on my navy mega then change to a single rep, high resists and hp neutron setup. seems to be more pratcial. DE
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Seems good to me ;) Personally I never saw the point in a damage control on a faction armor tanked ship (if your in structure, if means your most likely fighting impossible odds). I messed around a little with your setup; 7 Ion II 1 Domination 100MN MWD (Or the best MWD that uses 75CPU you can get) 1 Domination Disrupter 1 TS Web 1 Heavy Cap Injector II - These can fit 5 as opposed to 5 of the TS one you fit. 2 Centus X Type Large Rep 3 Centus X Hardeners (exp/kin/therm) 1 Corpum Atype EANM 2 Shadow Serp MFS 1 Powergrid Rig 2 Nano Pumps Will push out more dps, with a slightly stronger tank. 74/77.5/83.8/83.8 emp/exp/kin/therm 1666.35 Rep Ammount NEEDS 5% CPU FOR TURRET REDUCTION IMPLANT! and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. and i have had my vindi now in structure 3 times and the dmg ctrl has saves my life. i would not undock without it. DE
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:36:00 - [10] Originally by: DarkElf and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. nope :) Guide to EW - Killboard Mirroring tool
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:44:00 - [11] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Spaced Skunk Seems good to me ;) Personally I never saw the point in a damage control on a faction armor tanked ship (if your in structure, if means your most likely fighting impossible odds). I messed around a little with your setup; 7 Ion II 1 Domination 100MN MWD (Or the best MWD that uses 75CPU you can get) 1 Domination Disrupter 1 TS Web 1 Heavy Cap Injector II - These can fit 5 as opposed to 5 of the TS one you fit. 2 Centus X Type Large Rep 3 Centus X Hardeners (exp/kin/therm) 1 Corpum Atype EANM 2 Shadow Serp MFS 1 Powergrid Rig 2 Nano Pumps Will push out more dps, with a slightly stronger tank. 74/77.5/83.8/83.8 emp/exp/kin/therm 1666.35 Rep Ammount NEEDS 5% CPU FOR TURRET REDUCTION IMPLANT! and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. and i have had my vindi now in structure 3 times and the dmg ctrl has saves my life. i would not undock without it. DE Well its a fine choice between Damage Control or EANM tbh :) I choose EANM ;) Also t2 > True Sansha for cap injecting.
Eamz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Ryysa Originally by: DarkElf and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. nope :) it does actually, really odd but it does. I keep thinking something must be wrong with this reasoning but think of it like 1 cycle. t2: 5x12 + 10 / 5 = 14 seconds/boost ts: 4x11.25 + 10 / 4 = 13.75 seconds/800boost As always, ive probably missed something out.
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Eamz Originally by: Ryysa Originally by: DarkElf and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. nope :) it does actually, really odd but it does. I keep thinking something must be wrong with this reasoning but think of it like 1 cycle. t2: 5x12 + 10 / 5 = 14 seconds/boost ts: 4x11.25 + 10 / 4 = 13.75 seconds/800boost As always, ive probably missed something out. t2 = (125)+10 = 70s for 5 loads \| 5800 = 4.000 \|4.000cap / 70s = 57.14 cap/sec TS = (11.254)+10 = 55s \| 4800 = 3.200 \| 3.200cap / 55s = 58.18 cap/sec I believe the above is correct [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Phoenus Originally by: Eamz Originally by: Ryysa Originally by: DarkElf and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. nope :) it does actually, really odd but it does. I keep thinking something must be wrong with this reasoning but think of it like 1 cycle. t2: 5x12 + 10 / 5 = 14 seconds/boost ts: 4x11.25 + 10 / 4 = 13.75 seconds/800boost As always, ive probably missed something out. t2 = (125)+10 = 70s for 5 loads \| 5800 = 4.000 \|4.000cap / 70s = 57.14 cap/sec TS = (11.254)+10 = 55s \| 4800 = 3.200 \| 3.200cap / 55s = 58.18 cap/sec I believe the above is correct How many reloads is that? or is that a single cycle?
Eamz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.04.26 15:58:00 - [15] single cycle
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Eamz single cycle Well I stand corrected then Just the extra loaded cap 800 always seemed better than the 0.75 second reduced time. Would it make a difference with 2-3 cycles rather than 1?
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Originally by: Eamz single cycle Well I stand corrected then Just the extra loaded cap 800 always seemed better than the 0.75 second reduced time. Would it make a difference with 2-3 cycles rather than 1? As the reload time is included in the equation above - no. T2 = ((125)+10)3 = 210s (210 seconds for 15 injects) (12,000 cap) / 210 = 57.14 cap/s TS = ((11.254)+10)3 = 165s (165 seconds for 12 injects) (9,600 cap) / 165 = 58.18 cap/s [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing
TheEndofTheWorld	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Ryysa Originally by: DarkElf and just 2 points to mention there. altho the t2 injector can carry 5 charges i believe the TS still gives more cap per second over a battle. nope :) 5% of trolls on eve-o can now write an essay on how Ryysa is a 1) SiSi PVPer 2) carebear 3) only fights in 40+ blobs and most likely jump to another 20 conclusions based on this reply. on topic: You will have cap troubles in pvp...
The crablitt	Posted - 2007.04.26 16:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Phoenus Originally by: Spaced Skunk Originally by: Eamz single cycle Well I stand corrected then Just the extra loaded cap 800 always seemed better than the 0.75 second reduced time. Would it make a difference with 2-3 cycles rather than 1? As the reload time is included in the equation above - no. T2 = ((125)+10)3 = 210s (210 seconds for 15 injects) (12,000 cap) / 210 = 57.14 cap/s TS = ((11.254)+10)3 = 165s (165 seconds for 12 injects) (9,600 cap) / 165 = 58.18 cap/s It can hold 1 extra cap 800. So say a mega with a true sansha can hold say 15 in cargo and 4 in booster, the mega with t2 can hold 15 in cargo and 5 in booster. Titans will ruin EvE and territorial warfare in the long run.
FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:32:00 - [20] Originally by: The crablitt Originally by: Phoenus Originally by: Spaced Skunk Originally by: Eamz single cycle Well I stand corrected then Just the extra loaded cap 800 always seemed better than the 0.75 second reduced time. Would it make a difference with 2-3 cycles rather than 1? As the reload time is included in the equation above - no. T2 = ((125)+10)3 = 210s (210 seconds for 15 injects) (12,000 cap) / 210 = 57.14 cap/s TS = ((11.254)+10)3 = 165s (165 seconds for 12 injects) (9,600 cap) / 165 = 58.18 cap/s It can hold 1 extra cap 800. So say a mega with a true sansha can hold say 15 in cargo and 4 in booster, the mega with t2 can hold 15 in cargo and 5 in booster. That is actually something to consider aswell. Tbh i think Megas should get a bonus to reduced cap stick volume per level.
Idara Caldari Missioners Anonymous	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:50:00 - [21] Edited by: Idara on 26/04/2007 17:47:14 Originally by: DHB WildCat 1 Damige Control T2 There's a T2 version of Damige now? Everybody best run for the hills... --- in EVE - Idara
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.26 20:41:00 - [22] Edited by: Ryysa on 26/04/2007 20:38:35 OK. Regarding the cap, I almost broke my head on this one... All of it is very circumstancial, and cap/sec doesn't matter much... Basically I plotted a CAP Injected vs Time in seconds graph. You can't really take average unless you make time REALLY big... at which point you will run out of charges. I would say, T2 injector ftw because it can carry that 1 extra cap charge :) Anyhow, here is the graph. If you run for a very long time, then the TS injector indeed pulls ahead, however, short term, and due to the fact that the extra 1 cap charge is going to be more important than the negligible difference between the speed of the cap you inject, T2 is still ftw. Basically, it heavily depends when you take the the "sample", for example at 50 seconds the T2 would have higher cap/s, but at 80 seconds the TS would have higher, however at 110 sconds or so, T2 has higher cap/s again... Oh and, for those who care, the formula in excel looked something like this: (FLOOR(($F2+B$1-(B$1B$3+10)FLOOR(($F2+B$1)/(B$1B$3+10);1))/B$1;1) + FLOOR(($F2+B$1)/(B$1B$3+10);1)B$3)B$2 I am not doing this again -.- Guide to EW - Killboard Mirroring tool
Eamz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.04.26 21:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Ryysa Edited by: Ryysa on 26/04/2007 20:38:35 OK. Regarding the cap, I almost broke my head on this one... All of it is very circumstancial, and cap/sec doesn't matter much... Basically I plotted a CAP Injected vs Time in seconds graph. You can't really take average unless you make time REALLY big... at which point you will run out of charges. I would say, T2 injector ftw because it can carry that 1 extra cap charge :) Anyhow, here is the graph. If you run for a very long time, then the TS injector indeed pulls ahead, however, short term, and due to the fact that the extra 1 cap charge is going to be more important than the negligible difference between the speed of the cap you inject, T2 is still ftw. Basically, it heavily depends when you take the the "sample", for example at 50 seconds the T2 would have higher cap/s, but at 80 seconds the TS would have higher, however at 110 sconds or so, T2 has higher cap/s again... Oh and, for those who care, the formula in excel looked something like this: (FLOOR(($F2+B$1-(B$1B$3+10)FLOOR(($F2+B$1)/(B$1B$3+10);1))/B$1;1) + FLOOR(($F2+B$1)/(B$1B$3+10);1)B$3)B$2 I am not doing this again -.- hehe, same, except i just accepted that TS is slightly better but knew that ofc it depends on how long exactly fight lasts, still cant decide though, might go with t2 purely cos of the extra charge.
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.26 21:52:00 - [24] That ship has trouble powering dual Core X. Centus X Types will just drain you way to quick.
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:01:00 - [25] Edited by: Ryysa on 26/04/2007 21:58:20 Originally by: Eamz hehe, same, except i just accepted that TS is slightly better but knew that ofc it depends on how long exactly fight lasts, still cant decide though, might go with t2 purely cos of the extra charge. TS is not better. You can't say it's better unless you have a fight of like 20+ minutes, but you can't have 20+ minutes of cap charges in your cargo... In fact, for a normal fight, t2 is better because of that extra cap charge. Also, I'd dare to say, in reality, because of module lag (T2 you don't have to re-activate so many times), T2 is probably better even over a very long time. Guide to EW - Killboard Mirroring tool
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 26/04/2007 15:27:55 Seems good to me ;) Personally I never saw the point in a damage control on a faction armor tanked ship (if your in structure, if means your most likely fighting impossible odds). Doubling your structure hitpoints give you more breathing room during fights. Damage control owns. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Eamz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:33:00 - [27] Edited by: Eamz on 26/04/2007 22:30:32 Originally by: Ryysa Edited by: Ryysa on 26/04/2007 21:58:20 Originally by: Eamz hehe, same, except i just accepted that TS is slightly better but knew that ofc it depends on how long exactly fight lasts, still cant decide though, might go with t2 purely cos of the extra charge. TS is not better. You can't say it's better unless you have a fight of like 20+ minutes, but you can't have 20+ minutes of cap charges in your cargo... In fact, for a normal fight, t2 is better because of that extra cap charge. Also, I'd dare to say, in reality, because of module lag (T2 you don't have to re-activate so many times), T2 is probably better even over a very long time. but it is theoretically slightly better cap/s even over 1 reload cycle, but t2 is better i agree, 1 extra charge ftw. edit: it takes 55 cap boosts for TS to get 1 cycle ahead of t2, which isnt practical, hence t2 in reality is better.
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:38:00 - [28] Edited by: Ryysa on 26/04/2007 22:38:39 No, it is not better... not even theoretical... Look at that graph... You can't do it like that, because cap addition from cap injector is not exactly linear, the only time you can start comparing cap/s is when it becomes statistically viable, note the word STATISTICALLY. That means a thousand cap injections or so, which no one is going to do. Which is better depends on the moment where you look at it. Neither is better, in sensible theory and T2 is better in practice. No one cares if the injector goes ahead after 50+ injections, no one can carry 50 injector charges on a ship that generally uses injector. Guide to EW - Killboard Mirroring tool
DaJokr Carebear Collective	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:42:00 - [29] Makes sense too considering you really don't want to lose a ship that costs as much as a Faction/Navy with just as much investing in mods. DCU II gives a slight buffer that might give you that extra bit of endurence. As for space for cap charges...you gave heard of using small secure cans right? you have say 600m3, you can fit 2 cans which will give you 780m3 or something (300m3 per can with 390m3 actual space I believe). Anyways, just my $0.02.
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 22:44:00 - [30] Are you using the CPU implant for your guns? ------------- Zun Da > Does anyone know about the 793 ship kills in the ZN0-SR System? Marquis Dean > Probably OHGOD doing a 6/10 plex.

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