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Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 03:09:00 - [1] Liberation! Freedom from the Theology Council! Fensi first of a Sani Sabik World Order! Dateline Fensi V: After almost a week has passed since the Sani Sabik Sovereign Revan Neferis has arrived the Fensi with the Sacred Aprophycon of Bloodveil radical changes have been seen across the planet and spread to neighboring worlds. Gone are any vestiges of the Orthodox Church and their masters in the Theology Council. Where such buildings stood are now smoldering ruins. Outside the gates of the major cities are the rotting bodies of deceased clergy and Theology Council Members. These acts of violence were committed by holder and slave alike striking down any representation of the Theology Council and destroying public buildings. Local Authorities were strangely absent from the scenes of carnage and destruction. Some witness reports have some in position of authority and power actually joining the riots. Within 48 hours the riots had quieted down to a point where local holders had managed to gain control of the situation. Prisoners, comprised of clergy, bureaucratic, holders and other who had sided with the Theology Council were brought forth to Lord Holders for judgment. The holders (each of them brandishing a new copy of the Bloodveil Aprophycon) sentence every one of their prisoners to the ôJudgment of Godö an ancient practice used by the Theology Council to punish heretics, by impaling them on poles outside the city. Many statements from the surrounding mob chanting ôIn the end you will all know the Truth!ö Once the executions were carried out the Holder Council made the following decrees. The first in accordance the ways of the Sani Sabik Alliance, all slaves were to be freed. Under the new regime, the new ôfree menö would be allowed to work for pay. Any not happy with their circumstances after one year would be allowed to leave with transportation being provided the Sani Sabik Alliance approved transports. The Second Decree, all writings belonging to the Theology Council including copies of Scriptures, Pax Amarr and other miscellaneous documents. The Third and final Decree the Holder Council has proven themselves master of the planet will serve together for one year. At which time each would personally battle each other to the death to become the sole ruler of the planet. The new leader who had proven in battle would hold the term for life in accordance with the Sani Sabik Traditions and Faith. Following the decrees, the Holder Council announced plans to rebuild the damaged part of the cities by constructing temple dedicated to the Sani Sabik priesthood. Numerous theaters and other places of once forbidden arts and entertainment were also added to the new construction projects. Already several holders had contacted architects and engineers from the Gallente Federation for several projects. In addition many of the holders decided to reward the Thrice Sovereign of the Sani Sabik , Revan Neferis by constructing a new government palace in her honor. It is with a new hope in the hearts of citizens of Fensi , will work to build better world through the doctrines and teachings covered in the Bloodveil Aprophycon and following the Sani Sabik Way. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
MirrorGod	Posted - 2007.04.27 03:41:00 - [2] Today, I walked the streets of Fensi V. Everywhere, it smelled of revolution, of change, and of justice. Talking to some of the locals, I found myself rejuvinated, just talking to them. There was a general vibe between all, an energy, as if one's chains had broken for the first time, as one's blindfold is removed, and for the first time in a long time, he can see. This was to be expected. What truly made my day, however, was seeing the birth of the arts that were once forbidden, and the slaves now free men. As I walked among the streets, a youth came up to me and asked me to follow him. Acting on impulse, I did. He led me through three blocks through the city, we finally arrived at the base of a large tower. He looked at me, his eyes full of life, and then proudly took path into one of the ally ways. I followed now, too curious to think of doing otherwise, and about 100 yards we came across, not a door, but an opening in the side of the tower. "We used to have to hide this..." he said "Tommorow we'll be putting up lights and signs" What he showed me was a crawl space converted to an art gallery, the works, he went on to explain to me, were all originals, done by those like himself. Each depicted beautiful images, all were previously illegal. My visit to Fensi V was one of the most beautiful experiences I've had, a nice refresher from the everyday scum I deal with on the comms. -MirrorGod
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 04:24:00 - [3] Addendum: The Sani Sabik Alliance has repelled a Sobani Corp Armegeddon Class Battleship from the Fensi Solar System. Elements of Misfits Enterprises and the Heretic Army in combined assualt drove the enemy out of Sani Sabik territory without the loss of a single warship. The battleship was last seen driving through the Daran System at high speed to avoid its pursuers. It is believed that the battleship was attempting to land Loyalist forces onto Fensi V in order to quell the developing Sani Sabik movement there. More details to follow. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
MirrorGod	Posted - 2007.04.27 04:29:00 - [4] Coward. We fell his Typhoon only two days ago, and if he dares to enter again, the Armageddon will meet a similar fate.
Murukan Minmatar Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.04.27 04:39:00 - [5] Well atleast after all these transmissions you lot love to put out you finally fought something. Chased away a big scary geddon now did you? Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:14:00 - [6] Originally by: Murukan Well atleast after all these transmissions you lot love to put out you finally fought something. Chased away a big scary geddon now did you? The Sani Sabik choose when to fight and on our terms. We would be dead fools if we didn't. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Ghost Festival	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:30:00 - [7] I'd like to see some independent confirmation of this story, please. Historically, Sani Sabik triumphalism (Revan's, at least) has mostly come across as the cry of a crawling insect planting its flag of victory on the nose of a napping slaver hound. If this claim is true, we may expect said slaver hound (having noticed the flagpole stuffed down its nostril) to wake in a very foul mood, and the results should, at least, be funny to watch. So ... Can -anyone- outside of Revan's cabal confirm this story? Anyone at all?
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:59:00 - [8] Strange, with so much talk of revolution why are there no widespread news reports from trusted news authorities on the matter? I somehow think that even in our current time any such insurrection would be dealt with rather swiftly. Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Mekarae Amarr House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.04.27 06:28:00 - [9] You'll forgive me if I wait for 'official confirmation' of these events of which there is none. -------------------------- "...strength through aristocratic rule."
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.27 07:16:00 - [10] Still waiting for proof. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Agustus Caesar Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.04.27 07:19:00 - [11] Hrmm...when the holders of Kor-Azor prime revolted a plan of attack was formed, a ultimatum of surrender was issued, and an invasion launched to re-take the planet (stoped only by the Speakers of Truth); all in fairly short order. Yet here a sect of the Empire's most despised cult supposedly siezes a planet, kills government and religious officials; and yet not a peep from any respectable news organization (even the ones with a sharp anti-Empire slant) nor any kind of response one way or the other from Imperial officials. Granted Fensi isn't as a strategicly vital system as Kor-Azor, but I get the distinct impression that they wouldn't let the sovreignty of any of their systems go without a long bloody fight. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't loose a wink of sleep if the Amarrians lost a world and the symbols of their twisted religion were desecrated, but your whole tale seems far fetched and lacks any kind of evidence beyond your own word. ----------------------------- "Our nation, may she always be right, but our nation right or wrong" - Unknown
Na'Thuul Caldari Suffoco Noctis Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.27 09:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Murukan Well atleast after all these transmissions you lot love to put out you finally fought something. Chased away a big scary geddon now did you? The Sani Sabik choose when to fight and on our terms. We would be dead fools if we didn't. Unlike now, when you are merely fools. Oh well, one out of two isn't bad I guess. ---
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.27 09:29:00 - [13] Is that your 'proof'? If I wrote an article about how VV marines stormed the 'Neferis Estates', killed everyone and burned it to the ground and would repeat it over and over - would it become truth? Fensi is still tightly under imperial control as can be seen from the sovereignity of the system. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.27 09:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Agustus Caesar Hrmm...when the holders of Kor-Azor prime revolted a plan of attack was formed, a ultimatum of surrender was issued, and an invasion launched to re-take the planet (stoped only by the Speakers of Truth); all in fairly short order. Yet here a sect of the Empire's most despised cult supposedly siezes a planet, kills government and religious officials; and yet not a peep from any respectable news organization (even the ones with a sharp anti-Empire slant) nor any kind of response one way or the other from Imperial officials. Granted Fensi isn't as a strategicly vital system as Kor-Azor, but I get the distinct impression that they wouldn't let the sovreignty of any of their systems go without a long bloody fight. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't loose a wink of sleep if the Amarrians lost a world and the symbols of their twisted religion were desecrated, but your whole tale seems far fetched and lacks any kind of evidence beyond your own word. If I may correct a factually incorrect part of your statement. It was the holders of Liparer II that had a now resolved dispute with Articio Kor-Azor. If anything, Liparer is even more of a backwater then Fensi, so your comment about the lack of reputable news to back up Revan's claims is more relevant. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.27 10:04:00 - [15] Oh dear. As if we haven't had enough nonsense from the "free press" reporting that far bigger war out there on Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions. ---------------
Andrea Kellis Minmatar Kellis Theatrical Productions	Posted - 2007.04.27 11:05:00 - [16] Just goes to show; you can't trust everything you learn from the news. On a side note, are your PR people available for third-party contracts? I might want to use them to advertise my performances. A headline reading, "Minmatar Artist purchases Amarrian Monument for 1 ISK!" might be fun. -Andrea Kellis: Never bought an Amarrian Monument for 1 ISK, but has one for sale!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 11:19:00 - [17] Again, a perfect report Illuminati. Now, it seem like it becomes a routine for me to have to educate the ignorant citizens of Amarr loyalists. Religious Sovereignity is not Territorial Sovereignity. The Sani Sabik faith being now the official religion at Fensi V doesn't imply the name of the Sovereignity at map will change, as the low intellects are here trying to imply. I pitty their ignorance more than anything else. Poor bastards. I wonder what sort of education these people had, if any at all. They can't distinguish political Sovereignity from religious. At any case, I'll be donating now 2 billion isk to the holders of Fensi V, to make sure they will invest on education of the new generation that will grow under Sani Sabik guidance. 500 mill to be invested on modern schools with high technological and academic centres. New interactive holorells of the Apocryphon shall be available to each new student. 500 mill to be invested on new centres of research and art galleries. Museum are forbidden and everything related to the misery of the past shall be burnt and the ashes forever lost. Adult citzens of this generation shall present themselves to the Bloodveil Temple in order to start the purification rituals and cleasing mind program. After accomplished, you'll receive a unique identity and a implant with your coded number as a citzens of the new world order. 500 mill to be invested on military assets. every citzen shall be educated at the arts of wars and politics. 500 mill to be invested on foreign Diplomacy arts. I also would like to announce the coming arrival of Lord Cephas Tane, The First of The Five of the Blood Sephrims. welcome to the new world Order. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.27 11:24:00 - [18] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 11:20:52 Still waiting for proof. As for the distinction between political sovereignty and religious sovereignty - in the Empire there is no such distinction. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.04.27 11:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Murukan Well atleast after all these transmissions you lot love to put out you finally fought something. Chased away a big scary geddon now did you? The Sani Sabik choose when to fight and on our terms. We would be dead fools if we didn't. Able to acknowledge your lack of skill, I guess you're not completely insane afterall.
Mekarae Amarr House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.04.27 12:12:00 - [20] Edited by: Mekarae on 27/04/2007 12:08:58 Originally by: Revan Neferis Again, a perfect report Illuminati. ... insert rot ... welcome to the new world Order. My dear lady, what are we going to do with you. If you're going to take up fictional writing and present them as fact then at least make things plausible. To state you have miscalculated is a gross under-representation. If such a set of events did occur this would be of monumental significance and would set off a chain of furious events in it's stead. Mobilisations of navy fleet soldiers would be called for. Announcements would be made. Political maneuvering would be frantic. This would be front page news across New Eden... need I go on. What do I see and hear? Nothing out of the ordinary from political officals in the Empire. Nothing from religious officials. No military mobilisations. No front page news even by the most ardent of our empires' enemies; although one small Gallente newspaper apparently did run an article, "Revolution in Amarr or a load of hot air - difficult to tell". I would like to propose a different scenario if I may, "One of Revan's missionaries goes to Fensi to begin converting people, is discovered by the Theology Council and is executed... The end." Seems more plausible to me. -------------------------- "...strength through aristocratic rule."

Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.27 12:25:00 - [21] Careful Revan, you're beginning to sound like you care for those whose place it is to serve us. Originally by: Revan Neferis I also would like to announce the coming arrival of Lord Cephas Tane, The First of The Five of the Blood Sephrims. Despite his heresy against Omir, I can only see this as a good advancement. Perhaps he'll gain redemption with the Covenant through helping yourself. And THANK OMIR for that damn rhyming going! I thought I was gonna have to write in prose for the rest of this clones life Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve.
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.04.27 12:36:00 - [22] Edited by: Agustus Caesar on 27/04/2007 12:36:35 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Agustus Caesar Hrmm...when the holders of Kor-Azor prime revolted a plan of attack was formed, a ultimatum of surrender was issued, and an invasion launched to re-take the planet (stoped only by the Speakers of Truth); all in fairly short order. Yet here a sect of the Empire's most despised cult supposedly siezes a planet, kills government and religious officials; and yet not a peep from any respectable news organization (even the ones with a sharp anti-Empire slant) nor any kind of response one way or the other from Imperial officials. Granted Fensi isn't as a strategicly vital system as Kor-Azor, but I get the distinct impression that they wouldn't let the sovreignty of any of their systems go without a long bloody fight. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't loose a wink of sleep if the Amarrians lost a world and the symbols of their twisted religion were desecrated, but your whole tale seems far fetched and lacks any kind of evidence beyond your own word. If I may correct a factually incorrect part of your statement. It was the holders of Liparer II that had a now resolved dispute with Articio Kor-Azor. If anything, Liparer is even more of a backwater then Fensi, so your comment about the lack of reputable news to back up Revan's claims is more relevant. Thanks for correcting me, I have edited my statement on this. I admit I didn't follow the event too closely but that's because there didn't seem to be anything unusual to me about how it was handled (ie. the holders were ordered to stand down and a fleet was dispatched to ensure compliance) so my memory around the details is admitedly flawed. My main point was that in a previous situation that almost paralells this one (aparently more than I initially knew) where the rebels in question merely held a grudge against one man, rather than everything the Empire stood for, the Empire at least responded with an ultimatum almost immediately after learning of it; yet here we have a planet siezed by the one force the Empire despises more than freedom fighters and not a peep from anyone. But I suppose our independent verification of these events is in the same place as the list of supposedly extorted corporations. ----------------------------- "Our nation, may she always be right, but our nation right or wrong" - Unknown
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Careful Revan, you're beginning to sound like you care for those whose place it is to serve us. Originally by: Revan Neferis I also would like to announce the coming arrival of Lord Cephas Tane, The First of The Five of the Blood Sephrims. Despite his heresy against Omir, I can only see this as a good advancement. Perhaps he'll gain redemption with the Covenant through helping yourself. And THANK OMIR for that damn rhyming going! I thought I was gonna have to write in prose for the rest of this clones life I believe that the arrival of Lord Tane , long time planned will be an excellent development to the times unfolding. Interesting times ahead. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Mekarae Edited by: Mekarae on 27/04/2007 12:08:58 Originally by: Revan Neferis Again, a perfect report Illuminati. ... insert rot ... welcome to the new world Order. My dear lady, what are we going to do with you. If you're going to take up fictional writing and present them as fact then at least make things plausible. To state you have miscalculated is a gross under-representation. If such a set of events did occur this would be of monumental significance and would set off a chain of furious events in it's stead. Mobilisations of navy fleet soldiers would be called for. Announcements would be made. Political maneuvering would be frantic. This would be front page news across New Eden... need I go on. What do I see and hear? Nothing out of the ordinary from political officals in the Empire. Nothing from religious officials. No military mobilisations. No front page news even by the most ardent of our empires' enemies; although one small Gallente newspaper apparently did run an article, "Revolution in Amarr or a load of hot air - difficult to tell". I would like to propose a different scenario if I may, "One of Revan's missionaries goes to Fensi to begin converting people, is discovered by the Theology Council and is executed... The end." Seems more plausible to me. Very good. But considering the accuracy of the news in times of war who are likely to believe? The Loyalists? They have keeping all too quiet about their "successes". Meanwhile the Star Fraction and the Sani Sabik are continuously updating the Galnet with our events. You have to ask yourself, if the Loyalists are winning then why aren't they reporting it? Why haven't they freed Amarr from the Star Fraction? You want independent verification? Then I suggest that you get out and take a look. Counting on Rodj Blake's cursory inspection of the systems (which was racing through the system in a frigate with full afterburners) does not count as an accurate observation. I have been on the ground and seen the event with my own eyes. You have not. I suggest that you do. Perhaps you will be enlightened. When you do I will be there to welcomne you to your new home among the Sani Sabik as the sister I never had. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Careful Revan, you're beginning to sound like you care for those whose place it is to serve us. Originally by: Revan Neferis I also would like to announce the coming arrival of Lord Cephas Tane, The First of The Five of the Blood Sephrims. Despite his heresy against Omir, I can only see this as a good advancement. Perhaps he'll gain redemption with the Covenant through helping yourself. And THANK OMIR for that damn rhyming going! I thought I was gonna have to write in prose for the rest of this clones life I believe that the arrival of Lord Tane , long time planned will be an excellent development to the times unfolding. Interesting times ahead. I look forward to meeting him Lady Neferis Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.27 13:42:00 - [26] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 13:43:39 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 13:41:46 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/04/2007 13:39:04 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Very good. But considering the accuracy of the news in times of war who are likely to believe? The Loyalists? They have keeping all too quiet about their "successes". Meanwhile the Star Fraction and the Sani Sabik are continuously updating the Galnet with our events. You have to ask yourself, if the Loyalists are winning then why aren't they reporting it? Why haven't they freed Amarr from the Star Fraction? I think that you'll find that we loyalists have been reasonably vocal about our recent successes where they have been worth reporting on. Unlike the SF and Bloodveil, we don't need to pamper our egos with verbose "war diaries" padded out with inaccurate descriptions of events. We merely say that something has happened, and then move on. We don't need to constantly repeat things, because we're believed the first time. Other people often report on our successes. The factionistas on the other hand, seem to subscribe to the theory that if you use lots of words whiule lying, and repeat those words often enough, they will somehow become the truth. Of course, anyone wanting an accurate report of events should look to an independent source. That's why I'm inclined to treat this Fensi business as a fabrication. We were promised a news report, but we were supplied with a press release. On the subject of war diaries, have you noticed how the war is going so badly for SF that even they can't spin enough good news for the diary for week three? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Mekarae Amarr House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.04.27 17:15:00 - [27] Well you asked me to verify your claims so I sent our chief scientist and communications specialist, LC Sulla, to investigate the Fensi system. He is still out there but here is his most recent communitication, Originally by: LC Sulla Lady Mekarae, Here is my survey of the Fensi system; The star in the Fensi system is a main-sequence M4 V red dwarf with so poor a luminosity the first 2 planets are completely ice covered and uninhabitable. The next 2 are cold gas giants. Fensi V is completely covered by a think brown cloud of semi-frozen small chain hydrocarbons. Its temperature is approximately 100 degrees below the freezing point of water. From data collected and presented it is very unlikely planetary human life could be sustained on Fensi V. Stations and ships are the only signs of human life in this system. I can confirm the presence of Sani Sabik in the system engaging in petty piracy. Will remain here and await your response. LC Sulla. I must say I am surprised indeed. -------------------------- "...strength through aristocratic rule."
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.27 17:26:00 - [28] It is a sad day indeed when you can't trust the word of a deluded lunatic. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
LC Sulla Caldari House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.04.27 18:39:00 - [29] Edited by: LC Sulla on 27/04/2007 18:36:54 I believe my work in Fensi is done. My scans reveal that planetary life is all but impossible (please refer to my excerpt posted by Lady Mekarae). The sun is too small and too cool to support that sort of planetary ecosystem. Intelligent life is concentrated to the stations and passing ships (by intelligent I mean capable of at least elementary cognition). I can, however, confirm a reasonable force of Sani Sabik operating in Fensi at 18:30 standard time. While by no means a fleet the six of them are engaging in random piracy and generally being a nuisance to ships passing through. I fail to see how a coup could be underway on a planet with no population. ------------------
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.27 18:49:00 - [30] Originally by: LC Sulla I fail to see how a coup could be underway on a planet with no population. Revan caught in another lie? wow who would have guessed... anyway one thing I do like about Revan is she will invent some other lie here in a few weeks and do it all over again, and while annoying she certainly has spirit. now if she had brains along with that she might actually be a power in the cluster...but of course we are fortune that is not the case. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel

Outlaw Jenner Caldari Misfits Enterprises The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 20:09:00 - [31] I grow tired of this useless banter. It's quite simple really. We control the system, any attempts to enter the system from any access point in a ship larger than a frigate are met with extreme force. When my Corporation is on system lockdown alone we choose not to scramble targets and destroy them so that the may relay word that the system is infact Controled by the Sani Sabik. A ship foolish enough not to exit the system immediately does not get a second chance. Rodj if you want proof please bring a ship larger than a frigate... provided you can pilot something larger, and have a brief look before you awaken in a clone vat. The "few" remnants of PIE that have passed thru my airspace are in nothing more than shuttles.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 20:14:00 - [32] I'm deeply moved by the fact the anti Sani Sabik most exciting fans are willing to dismiss life presence at Fensi V in order to uncover the Fensi Rebellion. I strongly believe that after releasing such statement the single capsuleer who calls himself a scientist ( part of a commoner organisation)the next step will be an attempt to make it believable, perhaps by exterminating the whole population at the planet. I'm excited to see which of the options the Amarr Empire will praise most. Either way, I'm pleased. Perhaps the failure at Liparier will be corrected now at Fensi V with millions of lifes vanishing. If this is all it takes to have a planet extinguish, I guess I will dedicate my life to convert planet after planet to Sani Sabik faith. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Mekarae Amarr House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.04.27 20:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Revan Neferis I strongly believe that after releasing such statement the single capsuleer who calls himself a scientist (part of a commoner organisation)the next step will be an attempt to make it believable, perhaps by exterminating the whole population at the planet. Anyone going to the planet can see for themselves. What sort of population lives on a planet whose temperature is 100 degrees below zero and is covered by a brown cloud of near frozen unbreathable hydrocarbons. My dear Revan, the first two planets are covered in ice and the next two are gas giants because the star is too cool and too small to support anything else. Try as you might you can't change the laws of physics just because you say so. Any pilot doubting the veracity of these claims is more than welcome to make their own judgements. Go out to Fensi and draw your own conclusions. Originally by: Outlaw Jenner I grow tired of this useless banter. It's quite simple really. We control the system, any attempts to enter the system from any access point in a ship larger than a frigate are met with extreme force. You were seen in the system but were in control of no gates at the time we investigated the system. You make a good point though. Claiming control of the nothingness between planets is different from claiming the planets themselves. -------------------------- "...strength through aristocratic rule."
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.27 21:16:00 - [34] would you like me to post images of the planet's the data registry information? Or are you going to keep being slow? Your lie (again) was found out (again), all you had to do was pick a habitable planet and your lie would have been slightly harder to disprove. Honestly do you even think before you come up with these hair brained schemes? oh and to the pirates who are currently wearing Sani Sabik tags, her idiocy makes you look stupid too you know. Guilt by association and all that. Besides anyone can camp a gate where concord does not patrol, doesn't mean you and the thousands of other mundane pirates own anything, you have to grow up a little and move into lawless space to claims territory. But then we all know that, or should anyway. enjoy your self induced fantasy, I though only the Khanid and Gallente were using those devices anymore... Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.27 21:49:00 - [35] Originally by: Outlaw Jenner I grow tired of this useless banter. It's quite simple really. We control the system, any attempts to enter the system from any access point in a ship larger than a frigate are met with extreme force. When my Corporation is on system lockdown alone we choose not to scramble targets and destroy them so that the may relay word that the system is infact Controled by the Sani Sabik. A ship foolish enough not to exit the system immediately does not get a second chance. Rodj if you want proof please bring a ship larger than a frigate... provided you can pilot something larger, and have a brief look before you awaken in a clone vat. The "few" remnants of PIE that have passed thru my airspace are in nothing more than shuttles. 16:00, 27.04.109, single Vagabond-class vessel looking for a kill in Fensi found all declared outlaws (aka, <-5 secstatus) running away to dock. I hope that qualifies to you as a 'ship larger than a frigate', jagusa? ---------------
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.04.27 22:22:00 - [36] Throughout many threads some within the Sani Sabik alliance have been protesting that their philosophy is one of religious revolution and not that of territorial conquest. Yet there are others within your organization that are basing this revolution on having control of the system in which it is taking place, which is a territorial claim. So, which is it?
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.04.27 22:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Throughout many threads some within the Sani Sabik alliance have been protesting that their philosophy is one of religious revolution and not that of territorial conquest. Yet there are others within your organization that are basing this revolution on having control of the system in which it is taking place, which is a territorial claim. So, which is it? It's just insane rambling from the cluster's crazies. Besides, Sani Sabik taking a system under their control would put them at odds with their 'friends' in the Star Fraction, but when Star Fraction's leader gives them a command, they obey like the 'free' captains they are. Perhaps Jasmine or Cosmo can tell us how they feel having their leader in bed with someone whose ideals conflict with their own.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.04.27 23:09:00 - [38] This is and should remain a discussion on The Sani Sabik's revolution and philosophy, not about their political ties. Side note, the two organizations have always stated that not all of their ideals coincide, but that they do have a common goal. That seems easy enough to understand.
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.27 23:23:00 - [39] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness This is and should remain a discussion on The Sani Sabik's revolution and philosophy, not about their political ties. Side note, the two organizations have always stated that not all of their ideals coincide, but that they do have a common goal. That seems easy enough to understand. Thankyou Tenebrion, well said. Nice to have a sane comment. C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:00:00 - [40] The Sani Sabik is a religious Cult. The Sani Sabik, having Bloodveil Temple within seeks religious supremacy and Sovereignity, different than territorial conquests. We do not oppose those who seeks it thought, territorial disputes doesn't interest us the slightest. Opposition to our Religion Sovereignity does. And those who we classify under this banner is Theology Council. There isn't any other Organisation who we consider significant of efforts, as at this moment The Sani Sabik expands it's influence unchallenged. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"

Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.28 08:47:00 - [41] Only 2 days ago (in this post): Originally by: Revan Neferis Sani Sabik is not a cult, is a set of ideologies. Now: Originally by: Revan Neferis The Sani Sabik is a religious Cult. Now you could go and edit your previous post in order to make it appear that this is not so. I will hold you above such acts for now however, and assume that you would not stoop to being that low. Instead I will ask you if you can understand why an uninvolved bystander will find it very hard to respect any claim and statement made by you, seeing that you may claim the exact opposite 2 days later? Can you understand why we all find your claims regarding Fensi to be less than entirely trustworthy? As I do have a sense of morbid curiosity, I'd like for you to make a statement on the reason for this incredible shift in direction over the course of 2 days. It will certainly make an interesting read. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 11:49:00 - [42] It's not necessary to edit any of my posts, for someone who has at least 2 brain connections: Sani Sabik Alliance is a religious cult. Sani Sabik ideologies is the set of premisses my alliance and many other different sects follows. Now, for you, that have just one brain connection that receives information but is unable to understand, I recommend implants and many, many brain surgeries. I can't help you. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.28 13:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Revan Neferis Sani Sabik is not a cult, is a set of ideologies. Now: Originally by: Revan Neferis The Sani Sabik is a religious Cult. [...]Instead I will ask you if you can understand why an uninvolved bystander will find it very hard to respect any claim and statement made by you, seeing that you may claim the exact opposite 2 days later? Can you understand why we all find your claims regarding Fensi to be less than entirely trustworthy? As I do have a sense of morbid curiosity, I'd like for you to make a statement on the reason for this incredible shift in direction over the course of 2 days. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but do you know how silly and ignorant you look by trying to find an error in Revans comments there? Let me enlighten you: Sani Sabik Is the name for an ideology based around a combination of the search for power, immortality, and the establishment of a better world order where those meant to lead are served by those beneath. The Sani Sabik Is Revans alliance of Pod-pilots who follow those ideologies, the majority of whom (if not all) follow Revans Bloodveil cult. To explain it even better: Revan is the leader of the Bloodveil cult and the leader of "The Sani Sabik" pod-pilot alliance, a group of Bloodveil cultists united in an alliance. Revan has stated before that she and her cult follow the ideologies of Sani Sabik. Myself, for example; I am not Bloodveil, nor am I part of "The Sani Sabik" pod-pilot alliance. However, I do follow the Blood Raiders (and the great Covenant) and believe in their cult practices. The Blood Raiders are seen to be the largest cult who follow Sani Sabik ideologies. Leon, is similarly in my position. While not a particularly religeous practitioner or occult researcher, Leon follows the active tenements of the Blood Raider cult in his behaviour and actions. Cyshade also follows Leon and myself, but takes her practitioning to a corporate level. Unlike myself and Leon who are two individuals in a non-blood raider affilitated corporation that accepts our beliefs, Cyshade expects and recruits people who practice the Blood Raider tenements on a corporate level. I wouldn't be suprised if she cries "for the Covenant" when she destroys her enemies. There are many others spread out throughout the cluster. I could give more examples, but one of my favourite Sani Sabik philosophies is that of shadows and silence: You know enough and only through research should you deserve to know more. I hope I haven't confused you. Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.28 14:33:00 - [44] Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 28/04/2007 14:32:47 Funny, that...I went through Fensi last night. No occupying forces of note, no effective gatecamps or patrols, nothing capable of stopping one badly-fitted destroyer. And no, the system sovereignty hadn't changed. Hell, there weren't any local Holder military vessels present, as there would be, had these claims any level of legitimacy, because dead priests make no-one happy. Admittedly, the new Blood Cult secretary spins a good yarn. To make this more than mere words, I invite the inquisition to put some of the many bodies up on contract at an unreasonably high price. I should think large-scale planetary invasion will give you ample time to round up the rest of the people on the worlds of Fensi, slaughter them like you would cattle, and put them up for sale by the millions. Something like that might actually get people to believe your money wasn't being wasted like your words. The saddest part of the entire exercise, however, is learning that your system of discrimination between one section of blood heresies and the next consists of a single article that may not parse properly through a universal translator. It certainly puts those theories that the Blood cults resulted from mistranslations of the scriptures back into scrutiny...
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 14:49:00 - [45] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor the system sovereignty hadn't changed. Just for the continuous ignorance of the loyalists to distinguish Territoral Sovereignity and Religious Sovereignity, I shall not indulge in further discussion. Nota surprise that only "God" have patience with such monkeys... "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 15:31:00 - [46] Loyalist Pirates attack Fensi System! Attack repelled by the Sani Sabik Alliance! Dateline: Emperor Family Bureau, Fesni V Since its declaration of religious freedom from the Theology Council, the Fensi System has been under siege of an increasing number of pirates. Theses pirates, rumored to have been hired by the Loyalist forces, as to date have not been successful in their criminal activities due to the active vigilance of the Sani Sabik Alliance. So far the recent battles the corps Bloodveil, Misfits Enterprises, Dead Pod Society, VITOC and the Heretic Army have successfully chased the attackers from the Fensi system and eventually destroying them. It was observed by members of Fensi Free Press, that captains of the Sani Sabik vessels observed proper protocols before opening fire. Stats for the battle(s) can be found here. Until further notice, the Fensi System is declared off limits by the Fensi Holders' Council. Enforcement of this policy will be enforced by the member corps of the Sani Sabik Alliance. Courtesy of the Fensi Free Press Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Smeggs	Posted - 2007.04.28 15:54:00 - [47] This is embarassing. This is why I decided to allow the take over of my previous host body Thomas Maleficus by somebody elses conciousness, giving up some of my piloting skill for isk but escaping the humiliation of the insani sabik on my record. I made a horrible mistake in joining these monkies. Their claims of supremacy, control really...all I could do was transfer my conciousness to a new host to escape that my record of employment includes this "organization". Words cannot describe the disgrace as I pilot that I feel. Just tell the damned truth you fools, no more making up these delusional conquests.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.28 15:58:00 - [48] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Ashar KorAzor the system sovereignty hadn't changed. Just for the continuous ignorance of the loyalists to distinguish Territoral Sovereignity and Religious Sovereignity, I shall not indulge in further discussion. Nota surprise that only "God" have patience with such monkeys... Since you are ever the charmer, Madam Neferis, I will clarify. I have already dismissed your cult's claim to be able to affect the religious sovereignty of anything, down to the soul of the merest of beings, forcibly through your attempts at sacrifice as well as through compulsion and coercion of the living. This is merely a sort of report to the rest of the cluster to reinforce the knowledge of your utter inability to change anything in the realm of political affairs and territoriality, since there might have been some doubt as to weather or not you had any clout there.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 16:06:00 - [49] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Ashar KorAzor the system sovereignty hadn't changed. Just for the continuous ignorance of the loyalists to distinguish Territoral Sovereignity and Religious Sovereignity, I shall not indulge in further discussion. Nota surprise that only "God" have patience with such monkeys... Since you are ever the charmer, Madam Neferis, I will clarify. I have already dismissed your cult's claim to be able to affect the religious sovereignty of anything, down to the soul of the merest of beings, forcibly through your attempts at sacrifice as well as through compulsion and coercion of the living. This is merely a sort of report to the rest of the cluster to reinforce the knowledge of your utter inability to change anything in the realm of political affairs and territoriality, since there might have been some doubt as to weather or not you had any clout there. Let me clarify things for you. According to reliable sources the current Religion is the Empire. There is no separation of church and state as in the Gallente Federation. There is no concept that "duty to the state" like there is Caldari State. You delude yourself in thinking otherwise. Rest assured what is beginning in Fensi will spread through the Empire. What will you do then? Flee to Federation where you can practice your faith to a dead god? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Smeggs	Posted - 2007.04.28 16:08:00 - [50] I would like to follow up my previous statement by adding that there are some very good pilots in the insani sabik who need to wake up and get out, do yourselves the favour, you're better than this.

Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.28 16:12:00 - [51] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac You delude yourself in thinking otherwise. Rest assured what is beginning in Fensi will spread through the Empire. What will you do then? Flee to Federation where you can practice your faith to a dead god? You mean you'll make up even more 'news releases' by the 'Fensi Free Press' (represented by you)? What a shocker! The Empire is doomed! Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 17:22:00 - [52] Originally by: Tharrn The Empire is doomed! Amen. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 17:26:00 - [53] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor Since you are ever the charmer, Madam Neferis, I will clarify. I have already dismissed your cult's claim to be able to affect the religious sovereignty of anything, down to the soul of the merest of beings, forcibly through your attempts at sacrifice as well as through compulsion and coercion of the living. This is merely a sort of report to the rest of the cluster to reinforce the knowledge of your utter inability to change anything in the realm of political affairs and territoriality, since there might have been some doubt as to weather or not you had any clout there. All are entitled to their dismissive nature. As I dismiss any authority of Amarr Religious representation. But there is always one thing I never dismiss: Amarr loyalists who are easily corrupted when I throw a few coins. Jade and I send regards from the Blood Ascriber, my ship Ashar. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 18:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Casserina Leshrac You delude yourself in thinking otherwise. Rest assured what is beginning in Fensi will spread through the Empire. What will you do then? Flee to Federation where you can practice your faith to a dead god? You mean you'll make up even more 'news releases' by the 'Fensi Free Press' (represented by you)? What a shocker! The Empire is doomed! Hmmmm, still waiting for a war update from the Loyalist side of things. Ho Hum I guess I just have to wait for the next War Diary from the Star Fraction. That is all I need to hear since it is obviously the truth of the current war. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.28 21:05:00 - [55] I fail to see the connection to your claims of Fensi being rebellious. Running out of arguments it seems. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 21:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Tharrn I fail to see the connection to your claims of Fensi being rebellious. Running out of arguments it seems. For once I agree with you. Fensi is a loyal system following the Sani Sabik faith. Once it has taken root here. It will spread outward to neighboring star systems. This is the beginning of things to come. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.28 21:26:00 - [57] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac For once I agree with you. Fensi is a loyal system following the Sani Sabik faith. Once it has taken root here. It will spread outward to neighboring star systems. This is the beginning of things to come. It's still just a fairy tale you cannot backup and noone believes. Thus noone (and that's not just Amarr loyalists as you may have noted) will believe your future press-releases about neighboring systems rebelling either. But keep living in your happy la-la land. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 22:28:00 - [58] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Casserina Leshrac For once I agree with you. Fensi is a loyal system following the Sani Sabik faith. Once it has taken root here. It will spread outward to neighboring star systems. This is the beginning of things to come. Perhaps it is time you stop taking those boosters that every one knows about. It's time to face the harsh truth, the Sani Sabik are in control of Fensi System, just like the Star Fraction still retain control in Amarr. The citizenry of Fensi have chosen to accept the Bloodveil Aprophyca as their new scriptures. I know it is difficult for some with your booster habit to understand, but then again that's what you have slaves for. It's still just a fairy tale you cannot backup and noone believes. Thus noone (and that's not just Amarr loyalists as you may have noted) will believe your future press-releases about neighboring systems rebelling either. But keep living in your happy la-la land. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.28 23:14:00 - [59] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Let me clarify things for you. According to reliable sources the current Religion is the Empire. There is no separation of church and state as in the Gallente Federation. There is no concept that "duty to the state" like there is Caldari State. The Empire is not the Faith, it is the embodiment of the Faith's current interpretation, and it is driven by certain principles of the Faith. They are not interchangeable; were the Empire to fall, the Faith would remain. Since you're well versed in various things like the scripture, you will recall that the Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. When its work is done and the spirit of man is brought to the apex of enlightenment, the Empire will no longer be necessary, but the Faith will remain. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Rest assured what is beginning in Fensi will spread through the Empire. What will you do then? Flee to Federation where you can practice your faith to a dead god? When all the Empire is filled with as weak enemies as your current patrols in Fensi represent, I will likely wait and watch as the enemies within are dispatched, perhaps offering out jobs as firing squad targets.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.28 23:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Revan Neferis All are entitled to their dismissive nature. As I dismiss any authority of Amarr Religious representation. But there is always one thing I never dismiss: Amarr loyalists who are easily corrupted when I throw a few coins. Jade and I send regards from the Blood Ascriber, my ship Ashar. Yes, do tell her hello for me. I'm afraid the bar won't be redecorated until next month.

Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.28 23:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor ] The Empire is not the Faith, it is the embodiment of the Faith's current interpretation, and it is driven by certain principles of the Faith. They are not interchangeable; were the Empire to fall, the Faith would remain. Since you're well versed in various things like the scripture, you will recall that the Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. When its work is done and the spirit of man is brought to the apex of enlightenment, the Empire will no longer be necessary, but the Faith will remain. Ah yes, hide behind the current interpretation of the Faith. Tell me then can you tell me time where there was a different "interpretation"? I can't think of one offhand. I doubt that you will either. Originally by: Ashar KorAzor ]When all the Empire is filled with as weak enemies as your current patrols in Fensi represent, I will likely wait and watch as the enemies within are dispatched, perhaps offering out jobs as firing squad targets. So far our patrols have not failed. In dealing with corps sent by loyalist factions. The Sani Sabik is prepared to do what is necessary to defend the religious choice of the Fensi people. Are you going to be one to come and take it away from them after they have earned for themselves? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Soratah Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.04.29 02:14:00 - [62] Do not worry brothers. Upon recieving these transmissions I proceeded into the star system to gather data and cause some trouble. Fortunately I still have a Battlion of Kameiras from the old Blood Raider wars eager to go. So I covertly penetrated the system's blockade in my Pilgrim. My curiosity was heartened by the fact that the Imperial Navy's Golden fleet were not scouring the system, bombarding any planets of heathens, or landing millions of Imperial Army soldiers onto the planet. Imperial strength and faith in God is still strong in Domain and the Amarrian people would die rather than betray their trust in God. I doubted the claims of a pod-pilot group possessing the resources to do what Sani Sabik have claimed. The amount of logistics, isk, and military strength for such an undertaking would be only possessed by the Nations. Calm yourselves everyone, do NOT change from your daily lives of service as even now the perpetrator of this farce is even now laughing at us during her breakfasts. Laughing at any attempt we may of made to counter a phantasm created from a lunatic-genius. Keep the faith, protect your flocks and remember be pure, be vigilant, behave. Regards
MirrorGod	Posted - 2007.04.29 02:54:00 - [63] Edited by: MirrorGod on 29/04/2007 02:51:04 "Yes, that's right, do what your told, act like the good little sheep you are." Words straight out of the putz mouth. How long can you keep the masses blindfolded, how long will you chain them down to the lies, allowing your priests and your politicians to ***** out God to increase their power and fatten their wallets. These are times of change, and the people will know that you have lied. The people demand violence. Violence for the People. -MirrorGod
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.04.29 03:10:00 - [64] Religion is the opiate for the masses, it is merely a blindfold that those in power use to control the uneducated planetside people. Power is through strength, through military might, through the fear that those who displease you will die. This little Carebear went to empire This little PvPer went to 0.0 The carbear got taunted The PvPer got OWNED! This sig is secured by Chuck Norris thus it is unerfable.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 05:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Soratah Do not worry brothers. Upon recieving these transmissions I proceeded into the star system to gather data and cause some trouble. Fortunately I still have a Battlion of Kameiras from the old Blood Raider wars eager to go. So I covertly penetrated the system's blockade in my Pilgrim. My curiosity was heartened by the fact that the Imperial Navy's Golden fleet were not scouring the system, bombarding any planets of heathens, or landing millions of Imperial Army soldiers onto the planet. Imperial strength and faith in God is still strong in Domain and the Amarrian people would die rather than betray their trust in God. Fensi is not even located at Domain. It's Kor Azor, Articio's Sovereignity politicaly. I didn't know even the auto pilot from loyalists forces were ... ahem ignorant too. Do not worry "bothers" Originally by: Soratah I doubted the claims of a pod-pilot group possessing the resources to do what Sani Sabik have claimed. The amount of logistics, isk, and military strength for such an undertaking would be only possessed by the Nations. Calm yourselves everyone, do NOT change from your daily lives of service as even now the perpetrator of this farce is even now laughing at us during her breakfasts. Laughing at any attempt we may of made to counter a phantasm created from a lunatic-genius. Keep the faith, protect your flocks and remember be pure, be vigilant, behave. Regards Just my personal wallet surpasses by far the income of all holders of that planet. Military, the dread class ships of Sani Sabik could make the planet evaporate at any second if I wished so. Logistics? After a full month in the system this was accomplished without any issue. As the rebellion was pro Sani Sabik no invasion was needed. My military is posted at the Planet simply by request of the holders who wish to continue discovering and studying their new faith Undisturbed. I'd like to take this opportunity to warn neutral pilots about attempts to approach and enter the system and land at the planet without previous communication with Sani Sabik authorities. May the loss of the Raven Navy Issue (Battleship)2007-04-28 01:05:00 from Mr. Starwind and the loss of the curse from the pilot of Omerta Syndicate serve as warnings. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 10:06:00 - [66] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/04/2007 10:02:49 Originally by: Revan Neferis Military, the dread class ships of Sani Sabik could make the planet evaporate at any second if I wished so. I'm calling your bluff here Revan. Prove it. Quote: Logistics? After a full month in the system this was accomplished without any issue. As the rebellion was pro Sani Sabik no invasion was needed. My military is posted at the Planet simply by request of the holders who wish to continue discovering and studying their new faith Undisturbed. Prove it. Instruct one of the holders to post here. Quote: I'd like to take this opportunity to warn neutral pilots about attempts to approach and enter the system and land at the planet without previous communication with Sani Sabik authorities. May the loss of the Raven Navy Issue (Battleship)2007-04-28 01:05:00 from Mr. Starwind and the loss of the curse from the pilot of Omerta Syndicate serve as warnings. All this proves is that you are nothing but a common pirate. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.29 18:07:00 - [67] Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 29/04/2007 18:05:13 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Ashar KorAzor ] The Empire is not the Faith, it is the embodiment of the Faith's current interpretation, and it is driven by certain principles of the Faith. They are not interchangeable; were the Empire to fall, the Faith would remain. Since you're well versed in various things like the scripture, you will recall that the Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. When its work is done and the spirit of man is brought to the apex of enlightenment, the Empire will no longer be necessary, but the Faith will remain. Ah yes, hide behind the current interpretation of the Faith. Tell me then can you tell me time where there was a different "interpretation"? I can't think of one offhand. I doubt that you will either. First - I refer to the mainstream interpretation of the faith, and I do not 'hide behind' it, because that would imply concealing something, which is sort of useless when I am explainging things to people. Now, as to your request for information - there have been recorded periods of history when the people of the Empire had different ideas about what the faith meant; there were significant differences in it as recently as the period preceding the Moral reforms, and there are, even now, different ideas about such things regionally. I say nothing of the differences of opinion geographically, or of those existing in the Faiths practiced in the Kingdom, Mandate, and Empire, or elsewhere, because these are available for the perusal of any who would speak to the locals. If you seek yet more historical lessons, I will direct you to the nearest unburnt library you've left on Fensi - persue the histories of Athra before it's name was changed to Amarr Prime, and you may actually learn something. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Ashar KorAzor When all the Empire is filled with as weak enemies as your current patrols in Fensi represent, I will likely wait and watch as the enemies within are dispatched, perhaps offering out jobs as firing squad targets. So far our patrols have not failed. In dealing with corps sent by loyalist factions. The Sani Sabik is prepared to do what is necessary to defend the religious choice of the Fensi people. Are you going to be one to come and take it away from them after they have earned for themselves? I'm afraid that killing good people doesn't 'earn' you rights to sovereignty over a system, and that failing to secure a location but maintaining patrols in it that, by all accounts, refuse to engage smaller forces, isn't much of a success. To put it simply, you have not failed to maintain some sort of presence in Fensi, but you have certainly not succeeded in securing it, or in invading it, or in making it yours, even if you have succeeded in annoying pilots or various other travelers in-system. A tiny measure of control really isn't enough, especially on the scale you possess it.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 18:52:00 - [68] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor If you seek yet more historical lessons, I will direct you to the nearest unburnt library you've left on Fensi - persue the histories of Athra before it's name was changed to Amarr Prime, and you may actually learn something. You mean that there are libraries not controlled by the Empire that has an unbiased view of Imperial History? From what I can tell history is written by the victors. And anything the Empire doesn't want to come out then they are willing to hide it from the populace. You are a naive one. That will be corrected in time. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.29 19:25:00 - [69] Wait, so we're just jumping from the argument you claimed to be holding to another, completely different, larger, and less sensical set of arguments and flawed conclusions? Tell me, can you maintain your attention on one point long enough to at least pretend to have some sort of defense? And...if you are so foolish as to think that the Empire could pull the wool over the eyes of all those it has ever had the duty of governing, well... Mass brainwashing is the hardest game in existence, pilot. This is why your own masters have only succeeded on a far smaller scale than it would take to change the hearts of all the Empires past and present peoples.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 19:57:00 - [70] Originally by: Ashar KorAzor Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 29/04/2007 19:28:20 Wait, so we're just jumping from the argument you claimed to be holding to another, completely different, larger, and less sensical set of arguments and flawed conclusions? Tell me, can you maintain your attention on one point long enough to at least pretend to have some sort of defense? And...if you are so foolish as to think that the Empire could pull the wool over the eyes of all those it has ever had the duty of governing, well... Mass brainwashing is the hardest game in existence, pilot. This is why your own masters have only succeeded on a far smaller scale than it would take to change the hearts of all the Empire's past and present peoples. Given the centuries of of existence of the Empire. Yes there would be enough time to educate the whole populace in their way of thinking. And considering the use of implant technology among the Royal Houses, you think that members of the Theology Council do not have access to these same implants? With an average of 500 years on the absolute control of the Imperial Throne, the Theology Council has exactly been able to condition the entire Empire. Hence, they do not want another alternative philosophies because that will go against the "system" It's time for you to leave the convent and truly see the EVE. Travel to other empires and see what they have to offer. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.

Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 20:38:00 - [71] Ah the claims of madness.... Again so many grandiose claims from one with absolutely no accomplishments save the ability to generate increasing numbers of IGS postings. Just to ensure I have the facts.... 1. Revan has a dread fleet that could vaporize the planet.... No one has ever seen it. 2. Revan claims to have holders doing her bidding now.... No holders post on IGS in support. 3. Revan claims to have created revolution on Fensi V.... Fensi V is an uninhabitable dustbowl. 4. Revan claims to have locked down the Fensi system.... People seem to come and go at will there and SS does nothing but petty piracy. I must say watching the "Revan and Jade show" is as entertaining as ever. You are certainly not ones to let little things like the lack of any evidence or credibility come between you and a good IGS post. I can't wait to read the next War Diary discussing the victory in Fensi it should be as entertaining a read as previous incarnations. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.30 03:22:00 - [72] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Given the centuries of of existence of the Empire. Yes there would be enough time to educate the whole populace in their way of thinking. And considering the use of implant technology among the Royal Houses, you think that members of the Theology Council do not have access to these same implants? With an average of 500 years on the absolute control of the Imperial Throne, the Theology Council has exactly been able to condition the entire Empire. Hence, they do not want another alternative philosophies because that will go against the "system" It's time for you to leave the convent and truly see the EVE. Travel to other empires and see what they have to offer. I will first assume that you had meant to say "The EVE cluster" or "the New Eden cluster." A hint - transmitting posts to IGS and talking like some backwater moonshiner whilst presenting yourself as a cosmopolitan, educated woman; a woman who chose to 'liberate' Fensi for the Blood Raiders, which support the institution of slavery as a method of purification, who chose to claim that the Empire was not a righteous institution whilst still supporting an entity whose dogma is at odds with this due to its nature, is beginning to make me think you are some sort of new breed of programmed drone, and generally very bad for your image. Either that or you've hired a Gallente ghostwriter. Now, to business. The Imperial education system is indeed both extensive and effective, and the church is this as well, but even though it is difficult for me to speak of such revered institutions as I would of a soulless national government or corporation, let us undertake a quick objective analysis. You claim first that, in the 'centuries' of the Empire's existence - though the Empire has extensive artifacts, physical evidence, et cetera, on a number of worlds to support seven thousand years of recorded history, and though this collection of evidence has been accepted by all major and virtually all minor nations, academic institutions, and so forth as genuine, you, Casserina Leshrac, go against Blood Raider ideology on some errand for your sect of that particular set of cults and profanities and declare history truncated by nothing more than your will; despite the entirety of the Cluster's scholars being against you, you dismiss six and a half milennia of Imperial history, and something like fourteen milennia of projected Amarrian cultural history - you claim that in these 'hundreds' of years of existence, the Empire's education system has somehow done - what, exactly? Misinformed it's citizenry of it's successes in amassing the largest territories and best possible economic circumstances, as well as the best spiritual care for it's faithful possible? You oppose the Theology council on it's success in sending people to the Lord's heavens because they do not follow the tenets of their faith? What, exactly, are you trying to accuse the Empire and Council of, considering that they seem to be playing by their own rules, while you transmit messages that don't even align with your own splinter faction's perverse utterings? The implants are good for a laugh, too. Yes, you're right - the most capable individuals in the Empire must use the technologies available to fulfill their spiritual duties - to live long enough to care for their charges as effectively as possible. They put off entry into Heaven, and risk centuries of temptation, to do their duties. Meanwhile, your cult's leaders have issued no recorded proclamations of how terrible implants are, and certainly have no precedent of rejecting them out of caring for their victims. Cont's.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.30 03:29:00 - [73] Cont'd. As for the theology council's absolute control of the throne - which, under the bureaucratic systems the Empire follows, comes into effect when we lack an Emperor - you've the records to pursue on the Emperor Heideran's (God rest his immortal soul) many disagreements and differences of opinion with the Council in the course of his long reign. Now, if those were staged for the public effect of appearing to have an independent Emperor, I really don't care, because of two reasons: first, they were part of a record of interacting the council in ways that generally got the greatest benefit for the peoples of the Empire, and two, the Council itself has, in all I have witnessed of it's deeds, worked to bring about the best possible circumstances for it's peoples. As to me leaving the 'convent' and travelling to other Empires - girl, I've stood on hundreds of worlds, been to every nation as a soldier as well as a civilian, and fought with and for many peoples, in space and on the surfaces of worlds, all before I was sponsored to get my license. The convent I am in has contacts all over the cluster, and does good to peoples of more races than you've likely encountered; we spread the Word and show the character of Amarrians to all of New Eden, edge to edge. Do not presume to tell those that have more of the galaxy in them than you that they don't know the hue of every sunrise in the cluster until you've at least seen some - this because it is an insult to no-one but yourself.
Mr Jay Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.04.30 22:49:00 - [74] Edited by: Mr Jay on 30/04/2007 22:54:17 Edited by: Mr Jay on 30/04/2007 22:47:31 I'll admit that I've not read all of this thread, as I simply don't have the time. I've seen you guys around a lot, lately. But the jist I get from these posts is that you're pretty much claiming Fensi as your own system. Maybe the surrounding systems, too... (Maybe you'd enlighten me as to what you're claiming is yours?) I'd really just like to say that Fensi will never be "yours" as we're based next door to you. If you've claimed to have ousted the existing pirates from the area, then you are wrong. We've only ever engaged your alliance once and we destroyed Revan's Abaddon (I'm let to believe he was afk at a safe spot). I hope that we do fight soon and I look forwards to it when the time arrives, but until then, Fensi and the immediate area remains ours. It always will be. Several merc. corps and alliances have tried to move us, yet we've been here for more than three years. No one shall move us. It is our home, and anyone trying to remove us... Well, they'll end up in the same situation as Revan's Abaddon. CRY ME A RIVER Edit: As it's this part of the forum, I felt I had to correct my typos Second edit: After looking more closely at our killboard, we've actually engaged you a few times. Your losses currently stand at: Caracal (and pod) Thorax Abaddon (as previously stated) Thorax Abaddon (and pod) Badger Mark II Astarte Curse Rifter. We haven't lost any ships or pods. This thread is now about cats.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 23:25:00 - [75] Originally by: Mr Jay Edited by: Mr Jay on 30/04/2007 22:54:17 Edited by: Mr Jay on 30/04/2007 22:47:31 I'll admit that I've not read all of this thread, as I simply don't have the time. I've seen you guys around a lot, lately. But the jist I get from these posts is that you're pretty much claiming Fensi as your own system. Maybe the surrounding systems, too... (Maybe you'd enlighten me as to what you're claiming is yours?) I'd really just like to say that Fensi will never be "yours" as we're based next door to you. If you've claimed to have ousted the existing pirates from the area, then you are wrong. We've only ever engaged your alliance once and we destroyed Revan's Abaddon (I'm let to believe he was afk at a safe spot). I hope that we do fight soon and I look forwards to it when the time arrives, but until then, Fensi and the immediate area remains ours. It always will be. Several merc. corps and alliances have tried to move us, yet we've been here for more than three years. No one shall move us. It is our home, and anyone trying to remove us... Well, they'll end up in the same situation as Revan's Abaddon. CRY ME A RIVER Edit: As it's this part of the forum, I felt I had to correct my typos Second edit: After looking more closely at our killboard, we've actually engaged you a few times. Your losses currently stand at: Caracal (and pod) Thorax Abaddon (as previously stated) Thorax Abaddon (and pod) Badger Mark II Astarte Curse Rifter. We haven't lost any ships or pods. Sorry but no. if this was a futile smack of 0.0 Sovereignity you should be proud of your post. The fact is, we have had over 100 kills at Fensi and lost ships too, as you proudly stated. Not only against your corporation, but against all neutrals and enemies as well. Your presence at AMI means very little to us, not more then any other pirate organisation. Low your ball, this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.04.30 23:46:00 - [76] Edited by: Tharrn on 30/04/2007 23:43:12 Originally by: Revan Neferis Low your ball, this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. In your case usually blowing a lot of hot air and making up stories in which you are the ******e. Edit: h e r o i n e - lousy filter. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.05.01 00:42:00 - [77] Originally by: Revan Neferis Low your ball, this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. I would hope all of this fuss would be for more than just erecting a POS in that system, there is much in the way of claims for holding the Fensi system and its inhabitants, clearly this cannot be the case, sovereignty should be about owning a system in more than just a POS in space, if you do claim sovereignty over Fensi i do hope we continue to see your presence on a regular basis. You mention your lack of concern regarding pirates, however others here give reports of clearing the system and surrounding system of unsavoury characters. While not large by any means we few pirates still lay claim to Ami and the surrounding areas and shall do so for many more years to come, if your sovereignty claim is via POS only and your time in Fensi is just for that, then i look forward to the removal of your limited presence. be it via hit and run tactics or a moderate organised strike at your forces, we shall win in the end, we always shall, and Fensi shall once more be free of fanatic part time forces. See you in space. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.01 07:16:00 - [78] Originally by: Revan Neferis this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. As I have already pointed out to you, in a theocracy such the Empire religious sovereignty and political sovereignty are one and the same thing. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The'Grim'Reaper	Posted - 2007.05.01 08:10:00 - [79] When last i checked, the immediate station in orbit of Fensi V was in control of the Emperor Family Bureau, if this is so why has Yerora Absaned, the resident agent not contacted his superiors. I find it strange that such a politically superior part of the Amarr empire would turn a blind eye to their neighbouring residents when set upon by an insignificant force of this nature. Claims and accounts so far by The Sani Sabik do not appear to be canon in my humble opinion.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.05.01 14:38:00 - [80] Originally by: Xtro 2 Originally by: Revan Neferis Low your ball, this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. I would hope all of this fuss would be for more than just erecting a POS in that system, there is much in the way of claims for holding the Fensi system and its inhabitants, clearly this cannot be the case, sovereignty should be about owning a system in more than just a POS in space, if you do claim sovereignty over Fensi i do hope we continue to see your presence on a regular basis. You mention your lack of concern regarding pirates, however others here give reports of clearing the system and surrounding system of unsavoury characters. While not large by any means we few pirates still lay claim to Ami and the surrounding areas and shall do so for many more years to come, if your sovereignty claim is via POS only and your time in Fensi is just for that, then i look forward to the removal of your limited presence. be it via hit and run tactics or a moderate organised strike at your forces, we shall win in the end, we always shall, and Fensi shall once more be free of fanatic part time forces. See you in space. Pos in system... you shall win, as if my alliance would be concerned to have any sort of win or loose whatever with you... yes... how " exciting you want it to be" "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"

Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.05.01 14:50:00 - [81] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. As I have already pointed out to you, in a theocracy such the Empire religious sovereignty and political sovereignty are one and the same thing. Until there is an Emperor on the throne, there is no such thing. You and I both know that the Emperor is the spiritual and political head of the Empire. Right now the Theology Council handles the religion. And the Chamberlain handles the politics. Not unless the the Chamberlain has aspirations to become the next Emperor. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.01 15:03:00 - [82] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. As I have already pointed out to you, in a theocracy such the Empire religious sovereignty and political sovereignty are one and the same thing. Until there is an Emperor on the throne, there is no such thing. You and I both know that the Emperor is the spiritual and political head of the Empire. Right now the Theology Council handles the religion. And the Chamberlain handles the politics. Not unless the the Chamberlain has aspirations to become the next Emperor. The two are still linked. Why else would a political leader (Articio Kor-Azor) submit to the judicial decision of a religious figure (Brother Joshua)? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.05.01 18:29:00 - [83] Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 01/05/2007 18:26:02 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis this is a religious Sovereignity objective which I'm sure you're not even aware of what it means. As I have already pointed out to you, in a theocracy such the Empire religious sovereignty and political sovereignty are one and the same thing. Until there is an Emperor on the throne, there is no such thing. You and I both know that the Emperor is the spiritual and political head of the Empire. Right now the Theology Council handles the religion. And the Chamberlain handles the politics. Not unless the the Chamberlain has aspirations to become the next Emperor. The two are still linked. Why else would a political leader (Articio Kor-Azor) submit to the judicial decision of a religious figure (Brother Joshua)? Why indeed? From all reports he did not have defer his decision to the Speaker of the Truth. in accordance to Imperial Law he had every right to execute those holders who refused to obey him. What is shows is that he surrendered to the Theology Council. While other applaud his "diplomacy" in this matter. It only shows that he unworthy of the duty granted to him. It shows that he is unwilling to take responsibility for his own holders and had just given it up to Brother Joshua. The Theology Council has no place in this affair what so ever. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.01 21:53:00 - [84] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The Theology Council has no place in this affair what so ever. The Theology Council has no place in the Fensi V affair simply because there is no Fensi V affair. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.


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