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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1010
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Posted - 2017.03.01 22:51:59 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time.
Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 00:46:02 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. I'm not that kind of guy - I just want PLEX to train the basic Omega skills I want for free. Then I'll pay.
That said, it'd be nice to sustain my acc with a PLEX. |
Takh Meir'noen
Viziam Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2017.03.02 01:20:32 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much.
Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 02:15:09 -
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Takh Meir'noen wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. Yeah, I've read tons of those kinds of stories - so sustainability is a long-term preference, not a immediate goal. I first want to get my hands on some stuff like an Astero and a mining barge. And naturally, I'd want to toy with it, fly it around, push it to the limit, and then sit stunned for five seconds after realizing I pushed a little too hard. |
Takh Meir'noen
Viziam Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2017.03.02 04:11:01 -
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Ajem Hinken wrote:Takh Meir'noen wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much. Last few times I tried to play EVE I only made it about 2 months before getting tired of trying to grind ISK for both PLEX and ships. This go around I just subbed for a year. Now instead of looking at my ISK generation as a % of being able to "play for free" I'm just watching my hangar fill up with ships I can blow up. So much happier with the game, going on 4 months back now. Yeah, I've read tons of those kinds of stories - so sustainability is a long-term preference, not a immediate goal. I first want to get my hands on some stuff like an Astero and a mining barge. And naturally, I'd want to toy with it, fly it around, push it to the limit, and then sit stunned for five seconds after realizing I pushed a little too hard.
To make something clear--I've been playing EVE long enough that I make up to 2B ISK a month pretty consistently (between PI, L4s, exploration, and station trading). The problem though has always been that I had to.
I'll probably only clear 1B isk this month; but I put 2B in ships in my PVP hangar last month, and I haven't even lost 1/4 of them yet. I'm so much happier knowing that every single ISK I make can be thrown at PVP ships. |
erg cz
Broz With Froz Dot Dot Dot
552
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Posted - 2017.03.02 08:56:04 -
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Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location. So you dream about getting PLEX from someones cargo is pretty much utopia, IMHO.
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Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
35
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Posted - 2017.03.02 11:13:10 -
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erg cz wrote:Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location. So you dream about getting PLEX from someones cargo is pretty much utopia, IMHO. There are many incompetent pilots out there. |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
2023
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Posted - 2017.03.02 14:48:58 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.
Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time. Because some people would rather spend a dozen hours mindlessly grinding in a game to get what they want than spend 40 minutes working IRL to get the same result, apparently. This makes them more 'l33t' by 'playing for free'. Because apparently their time isn't worth all that much.
Or because online games are not worth spending real money on but totaly worth wasting ones time with. I am fine with spending some bucks on entertainment and don't make a difference if it is music, art, plays or games. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1011
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Posted - 2017.03.02 17:51:20 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:Or because online games are not worth spending real money on but totaly worth wasting ones time with. I am fine with spending some bucks on entertainment and don't make a difference if it is music, art, plays or games.
Mindless grinding for ISK isn't entertainment, it's a job. |
Elena Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
1784
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Posted - 2017.03.02 17:59:31 -
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erg cz wrote:Any competent pilot will not transport PLEX in cargohold. They upload it back to redeeming system and redeem it again on new location.
That doesn't work. Once redeemed, the plex cannot be redeemed to a different location. https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203599221-Reverse-Redeeming |
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Lucian Skord
Aetherium.
20
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Posted - 2017.03.03 14:08:34 -
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Look for ships fighting each other when one dies loot the wreck and immediately warp off. Sell the goods. Profit. You just might get very lucky...
You can be shot at once you loot the wreck. So warp off asap. Use the cheapest thing u can. And putt nanofibers in the lows. |
Ajem Hinken
Quaice Industries
37
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Posted - 2017.03.03 23:08:18 -
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Lucian Skord wrote:Look for ships fighting each other when one dies loot the wreck and immediately warp off. Sell the goods. Profit. You just might get very lucky...
You can be shot at once you loot the wreck. So warp off asap. Use the cheapest thing u can. And putt nanofibers in the lows. Yep, I know that. I'm talking waiting for the killer to get CONCORD'ed, then scoop the loot before their looter alt/themselves can get it |
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