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Culamity Paiute Evian Industries EVIAN NATION 7	Posted - 2017.02.28 00:55:49 - [1] - Quote I purchased one and everytime i ask in game about it, I just get a bunch of crap from players about how I should fly other ships etc. I dont want to fly other ships, I want to fly my Tempest. So, hopefully there are people here on the forums who can give me some advice on the best way to outfit this boat, and some ideas on how to play it, because to me it seems that if I fit this boat correctly it could put up some pretty mean firepower and be a real asset to any fleet or any fight in general where it can sit back at range and let those big guns fly. Thanks, Culamity
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1536	Posted - 2017.02.28 00:59:15 - [2] - Quote We need a zkill guide to the Tempest Fleet Issue Paging u/rhiload Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1626	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:09:02 - [3] - Quote You do not want to hear that, but the thing is - the Tempest is actually better. The only thing the TFI has over the regular Tempest is hitpoints, which rarely ever matter with this ship and are certainly not worth the hefty price tag and sacrifice of 2.5% RoF per level. The TFI is not in a very good position at the moment. If you want PvP, you are better off with a regular Tempest (or Mach) and if you want to run missions, you are better off with a Maelstrom (or Mach) or a Vargur if you like the overall design of the Tempest and can afford it.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5835	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:23:44 - [4] - Quote Fly what you want and screw everyone else. At some point mission efficiency and ISK/hour will give way to lethargy. So if you're not enjoying what you fly - what's the point? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1133	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:00:57 - [5] - Quote Quote: because to me it seems that if I fit this boat correctly it could put up some pretty mean firepower and be a real asset to any fleet or any fight in general where it can sit back at range and let those big guns fly. Tempest will do it better and you will be able to afford the lossmail more often As pve goes you will be let in incursion fleet in one(as well as with tempest) until you buy machariel or a slot filler at best. Seriously if you respect firepower t1 tempest is a way to go or maelstrom or vargur or machariel both typhoons than TFI it is THAT bad. "You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear"n++
Amojin Entropic Synergies Research 21	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:21:42 - [6] - Quote Fly what you want to fly. If you find something you love, and you have it in you to do it, then do it with all your might. The only time I would tell you to not do it in if you are ganking with it, or are war-decced. Fly cheap ****, in that case. Or better yet, do like I do for the week, and log off and play warcraft or skkyrim until the threat ends. No matter how stupid it is, there is one thing I have found, in this game. If you play with the fitting, damned near every ship in this game can be made VIABLE for its role. It won't be the best, flavor of the month, but it will get the job done, so if you like it, do it.
TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:52:40 - [7] - Quote It's bad form to ask advice in game, people got stuff going on with no time for casual conversation. The forums are the place to ask for advice and then only if, after due diligence and research, you can't find the answers you want. And then I'd take the answers with a grain of salt as there are people out there who will give off the wall answers either out of ignorance or just being one of those holes we hear so much about. Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Amojin Entropic Synergies Research 21	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:56:05 - [8] - Quote TackyTachy1 wrote: It's bad form to ask advice in game, people got stuff going on with no time for casual conversation. The forums are the place to ask for advice and then only if, after due diligence and research, you can't find the answers you want. And then I'd take the answers with a grain of salt as there are people out there who will give off the wall answers either out of ignorance or just being one of those holes we hear so much about. I've never heard that one, before, and I ask for advice in game non-stop. 'Bad form,' like wearing my Grand Seiko Diver instead of a Rolex with a suit? Bad form. Whatever. It's a department store suit, anyway, that should be bad form enough. Oh, but I've never had anyone complain about any single one of these things... Hell yes, ask in game. They have a lot of help channels exactly for that, and if you join a corp that says what this schmuck just did, run!
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5836	Posted - 2017.02.28 04:20:05 - [9] - Quote Once you've gone Mach, you'll never go bach... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Matthias Ancaladron Wrath of Angels Solitaire. 154	Posted - 2017.02.28 05:13:14 - [10] - Quote Eww minmatar ships. Ewwww I'd say burn it with fire op but it's bad to pollute by burning garbage.

Matthias Khenakhtre Wrath of Angels Solitaire. 156	Posted - 2017.02.28 05:13:14 - [11] - Quote Eww minmatar ships. Ewwww I'd say burn it with fire op but it's bad to pollute by burning garbage.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5837	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:11:41 - [12] - Quote Matthias Ancaladron wrote: Eww minmatar ships. Ewwww I'd say burn it with fire op but it's bad to pollute by burning garbage. They're fine. Couple 'o thousand feet of duct tape and they're usually good-to-go. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:14:11 - [13] - Quote Amojin wrote: TackyTachy1 wrote: It's bad form to ask advice in game, people got stuff going on with no time for casual conversation. The forums are the place to ask for advice and then only if, after due diligence and research, you can't find the answers you want. And then I'd take the answers with a grain of salt as there are people out there who will give off the wall answers either out of ignorance or just being one of those holes we hear so much about. I've never heard that one, before, and I ask for advice in game non-stop. 'Bad form,' like wearing my Grand Seiko Diver instead of a Rolex with a suit? Bad form. Whatever. It's a department store suit, anyway, that should be bad form enough. Oh, but I've never had anyone complain about any single one of these things... Hell yes, ask in game. They have a lot of help channels exactly for that, and if you join a corp that says what this schmuck just did, run! Of course you never hear anyone complain, they simply do not answer the idiot. If you do get an answer it's more like RTFM than anything else. There's always some idiot bleating that they don't understand this and can you do that and it's just noise. But there again this game has a multitude of ways to play it and if all you want to do is hang out in a station and coach the noobs then go for it, although I haven't a clue why what watch you wear with what suit has anything to do with anything. My fashion sense is rather execrable anyways. You actually wear a suit whilst playing? We live in strange days. Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5837	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:18:17 - [14] - Quote I really don't know what the issue is. Offer some fitting advice or don't. It's not like asking for help is a big deal... "Relax, Francis." I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1610	Posted - 2017.02.28 19:11:55 - [15] - Quote Here's the advice I would give you: Fly what you like. That's it. That's all of the advice. If you want to fit lasers to your rifter, then fit lasers to your rifter. It's not going to be particularly effective, but if that's what you want, then do it. If you want to fly the TFI, find a fit that accomplishes what you want and use it. However, be aware that you will occasionally run into the round hole square peg problem. There are some ships that cannot do some things. This is by design. But barring that, if there's a ship you want to fly, fly it. Learn from the mistakes you make and move on I would suggest asking around in the Ships & Modules subforum as opposed to GD. Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Orakkus Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 330	Posted - 2017.02.28 21:23:51 - [16] - Quote Culamity Paiute wrote: I purchased one and everytime i ask in game about it, I just get a bunch of crap from players about how I should fly other ships etc. I dont want to fly other ships, I want to fly my Tempest. So, hopefully there are people here on the forums who can give me some advice on the best way to outfit this boat, and some ideas on how to play it, because to me it seems that if I fit this boat correctly it could put up some pretty mean firepower and be a real asset to any fleet or any fight in general where it can sit back at range and let those big guns fly. Thanks, Culamity I recently purchased one as an "investment" ship. Evenutally, CCP will realize that it isn't in line with other Navy issued ships and likely buff it up some. So, pick up a couple if you have the isk and sit on them for a while. Til then, get yourself a cheap Maelstrom (much better for PVE ratting), or put your money into some cruisers and frigs if you are wanting to do PVP. He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1133	Posted - 2017.02.28 21:50:35 - [17] - Quote ^ cheapest thing out there Maelstrom will out price it given a time while 280mil Machariel is a bargain and worth every isk 280 mil TFI worth none of it. "You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear"n++
Beast of Revelations Hedion University Amarr Empire 135	Posted - 2017.03.01 05:00:50 - [18] - Quote Matthias Ancaladron wrote: Eww minmatar ships. Ewwww Come brother Matthias. The lesser races have to fly something, and Lord knows it can't be something of ours.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5860	Posted - 2017.03.01 05:08:43 - [19] - Quote Look on the bright side - Navy battleships used to be closer to 700m ISK... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Amojin Entropic Synergies Research 52	Posted - 2017.03.01 05:16:22 - [20] - Quote TackyTachy1 wrote: You actually wear a suit whilst playing? We live in strange days. Well, of course! You guys are just that important! I need to look my cheap-ass department store, not Rolex sorta best, right?! (/Sarcasm) Half of the time I sit here in underwear and a wife-beater. Pretty sure a lot of people do. Not to put too awful fine a point on it, but in most every case, the only stupid question is the one you didn't bother to ask. If you HAD asked, it wouldn't have been a stupid choice.

TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 150	Posted - 2017.03.01 05:28:19 - [21] - Quote Thing is, if you ask a question, you get an answer and that's all you get. But if you perform due diligence and research your question thoroughly then along the way you pick up a deeper understanding of not only the answer you quest for but also a deeper understanding of the game. Have I asked questions? Yes. I've even had an answer to a question without even asking on one memorable occasion in my noob days, when the guy who'd just blown my Tristan into tiny little pieces lectured me on the inadvisability of fitting stabs to a Tristan. I never forgot that. Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Amojin Entropic Synergies Research 56	Posted - 2017.03.01 05:31:03 - [22] - Quote So, the thing you never forgot, you were told in game, in an act of bad taste, right? Hmm...
Gregorius Goldstein Ze One Man Show 2019	Posted - 2017.03.01 14:31:49 - [23] - Quote Culamity Paiute wrote: I purchased one and everytime i ask in game about it, I just get a bunch of crap from players about how I should fly other ships etc. I dont want to fly other ships, I want to fly my Tempest. So, hopefully there are people here on the forums who can give me some advice on the best way to outfit this boat, and some ideas on how to play it, because to me it seems that if I fit this boat correctly it could put up some pretty mean firepower and be a real asset to any fleet or any fight in general where it can sit back at range and let those big guns fly. Thanks, Culamity Best thing first: The Tempest got cool art. But I am sorry, the Tempest and Tempest Fleet Issue are not an asset to any fleet or fight in general. Hardly any pure DPS ship is. One more tackler, scout or e-warfare ship of any kind is fine most of the time. But DPS and logi ships have to follow some kind of plan. While logis have to match the tank of the DPS ships (obviously) and run with or without cap chain the DPS ships should match each other in range and speed. A couple of Tempests with logi support and some ships to help damage application are quite capable (look for GÇ£SailboatGÇ¥ doctrines) but a lone Tempest in a fleet or gang isnGÇÖt as good as one more mainline ships would be. So you either get some more players to team up with you and form a Tempest gang/wing or you better bring whatever the doctrine DPS ship is. Nice thing with the Tempest is that you can fit it with armor or shield to fit your fleet logi. If you play it solo you might be able to surprise other players, because of the variable fitting options. Mimicry a ratter and try to neut them with the two large utility slots. But damage application to smaller ships will always be a problem solo. You can get a couple of suggestions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3comd1/thoughts_on_the_buffed_tempest/
TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2017.03.02 02:58:52 - [24] - Quote Amojin wrote: So, the thing you never forgot, you were told in game, in an act of bad taste, right? Hmm... Yeah, I thought him blowing my Tristan to pieces was in bad taste. He could've just told me. Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 2073	Posted - 2017.03.02 03:48:15 - [25] - Quote If you are going to PVP with your Tempest Fleet Issue, I suggest looking up zkillboard for fits. If you are a friendly enough guy you can also ping the fit user for tips and tactics on flying the ship. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Ninteen Seventy-Nine Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 259	Posted - 2017.03.02 18:45:50 - [26] - Quote The last time the fleet tempest was worth using, it had copper piping for sails. And I doubt you can even find a picture of that, let alone a player that remembers it. The tempest hull was my first battleship and space-love. That was 2004, it's had a rough development history since. The maelstrom took away any sniper role, between it and the post-love phoon, the tempest doesn't have a niche where it performs well aside from: big battlecruiser (and in this role it does do well) As a previous poster highlighted, the fleet version of this hull is every bit as lackluster as a fleet version of a ship can be. If there was any justice in the world it would receive an extra turret and call it a day but I dont think this ship has ever been on CCP's radar and I doubt it ever will be. "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."


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