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Karass Sayfo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:14:00 - [61] ((Due to the very borderline flamebait nature of the OP, I have decided to leave the thread open while keeping an eye on the course of the thread. While I understand that this thread is an In-Character smear camapaign on PIE Inc. (or rather, how I have percieved the thread to be), posters must still abide by both EVE-Online and IGS forum rules and flamebait posts that do cross the line, will be moderated. As usual, please remain respectful and constructive to fellow posters, even if you may disagree or may be involved in a conflict with them. If you have any concerns regarding any of the posts and/or with moderation, please contact us at [email protected] - Karass Sayfo)) _______ Forum Rules \| Report a Post \| Our Website \| IGS Rules

Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Candy Sausage Originally by: Cailais All looks pretty murky to me Archy, I wonder what sort of other 'accident's' your pilot might have comitted with young Candy Sausage eh? Sounds to me as LT Jonzy "Pious" Lothos has some explaining to do as to this rather scandalous looking relationship! I of course, would be aghast at PIE's name being besmirched by this sleazey episode - but in all honesty how deep does this go? Perhaps other PIE members are loosening their morals? You seem eager to brush the whole unpleasant affair under the carpet Arch? Something you want to come clean over??? C. I do have to come to Mr Lothos' defense on this point. He has always treated me with respect and dignity in all our dealings. I have never had a single issue out of this particular client. I have had a few minor issues with other members of the Amarr region but nothing that is worth noting. Clients come and go. I will miss Mr Lothos' business greatly Mistakes are made. That is one of the constants of the universe. However, PIE's inability to bring LT Lothos up for scrutiny as we have done with Candy implies that there is something to hide within their organization. And that they are all to eager to sweep this "incident" under the rug. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:21:00 - [63] Originally by: Karass Sayfo While I understand that this thread is an In-Character smear camapaign on PIE Inc. (or rather, how I have percieved the thread to be).... ((Yep - that what it is)) C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:24:00 - [64] Why hasn't somebody come forward from PIE to explain what punishment is to be metted out to this transgresor?? Surely this pilot has crossed the line of moral decency? Is there more tales that PIE are unwilling to disclose?! I for one demand answers! C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:32:00 - [65] Originally by: Cailais Why hasn't somebody come forward from PIE to explain what punishment is to be metted out to this transgresor?? Surely this pilot has crossed the line of moral decency? Is there more tales that PIE are unwilling to disclose?! I for one demand answers! C. Probably because the evidence shows it was an accident and the Sani Sabik used up the last of their credibility on the Fensi lies i believe. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:46:00 - [66] You spin the story with the skill of a Fractionite.... How fitting.... although to be honest I never thought I'd see the day they'd stoop to this level of public relations. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:47:00 - [67] So, no condemnation from CVA either it appears. The 'accident' might, just might be that - but I think the eveidence rather clearly shows that LT Jonzy "Pious" Lothos has been caught in a rather flagrant set of "dealings" with a young Miss Candy Sausage. That he has 'accidentaly' revealed this fact (and Candy, bless her, has tried to protect her client relationship confidentiality) is just yet one more indication of how depraved, corrupt and morally bankrupt the Loyalists have become. Surely if this was not the case they would have laughed it off along with everyone else - but no, they're back peddling faster than a Minmater Clown on a uni-cycle. So Rody, whats the punishment to be? I think we should know. C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:49:00 - [68] Edited by: Archbishop on 29/04/2007 22:53:08 edited PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:54:00 - [69] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Originally by: Karass Sayfo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I understand that this thread is an In-Character smear camapaign on PIE Inc. (or rather, how I have percieved the thread to be).... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ((Yep - that what it is)) C. Well at least the true motivation of this action has been revealed.... As if there was any doubt anyway. Archbishop ((er...posted in ((..)) to indicate OOC...but umm, thx for that)) Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 22:58:00 - [70] ((Sorry honest mistake)) PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.29 23:01:00 - [71] Ok hold on, what is the big deal. I still fail to see the magnitude of an exchange of goods between Jonzy and Candi (as said it was a contract - goods for money) they both came away with a result. This is not a donation as both parties lost something and gained another. When did the allegations of an in station trade occur? Then you speak of a report, to long standing business relations. This i'll retain judgement on until proof is actually provided. Until then it'll be held among the ranks of Fensi V, NWO in Amarr and the other Sani Sabik fiction. Please stop lying?
MirrorGod	Posted - 2007.04.29 23:20:00 - [72] It wasn't so much Goods for money as it was goods in returns for services. Services which, honestly, I do not deplore, but I'm sure the "god"-fearing people would not be pleased with Jonzy's involvement with the fine Candy Sausage. ((cheers to Archbishop for being a good sport)) snip your sig is too large. Maximum sig size is 24,000 bytes, your current sig is 40,174 bytes - Karass Sayfo
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 23:21:00 - [73] A "business deal" + "vast sums of ISK" + "known holo reel starlet" + "Repressed Pious Loyalist": And you see nothing amiss? Nothing even remotely scandalous? My, what a sheltered life some of you PIE have led...... So - onto the issue at hand, how are you going to deal with this frankly shocking lapse of judegement by one of your own? No investigation? Personally I feel slighty affronted that you havent even thanked Casserina for bringing this to everyones attention....or would you rather she hadn't? C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.29 23:25:00 - [74] Originally by: Cailais A "business deal" + "vast sums of ISK" + "known holo reel starlet" + "Repressed Pious Loyalist": And you see nothing amiss? Nothing even remotely scandalous? My, what a sheltered life some of you PIE have led...... So - onto the issue at hand, how are you going to deal with this frankly shocking lapse of judegement by one of your own? No investigation? Personally I feel slighty affronted that you havent even thanked Casserina for bringing this to everyones attention....or would you rather she hadn't? C. Or the fact that Candy's employer Outlaw Jenner brought it to my attention last night. He too should be thanked as well. His loyalty to the Sani Sabik is well justified Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Candy Sausage Gallente Misfits Enterprises The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 00:52:00 - [75] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Raane Thyandar Ship aside, if it falls so easily it begs the question; why did it not? I'm also failing to see what makes it newsworthy that a member of PIE bought something on the free market. That item happening to be a shield resistance reinforcer, an item of little use to a PIE Pilot, leads me to believe The lieutenant is going to sell it on at a profit.[/quote Well, if it was a petty item, well, that would be one thing good friend. The fact of the matter is that Candy recieved a Dread Gurista Invulnerabilty Field, valued on market in excess of 300 million as an award or flattery from one of your members. The Sani Sabik thanks you for the funding. Candy... just out of curiosity, have have you done to the PIOUS PIE gentleman to make him open a trade window with you, and giving you a plus 300 million module? Perhaps if you invite me to your chambers one day my lady I'll show you. I apologise for the late reply
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.30 01:05:00 - [76] Pathetic. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Nathaniel Hull Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.30 01:14:00 - [77] Id like some visual proof....cough...
Yendaj	Posted - 2007.04.30 02:24:00 - [78] Originally by: Candy Sausage Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Raane Thyandar Ship aside, if it falls so easily it begs the question; why did it not? I'm also failing to see what makes it newsworthy that a member of PIE bought something on the free market. That item happening to be a shield resistance reinforcer, an item of little use to a PIE Pilot, leads me to believe The lieutenant is going to sell it on at a profit.[/quote Well, if it was a petty item, well, that would be one thing good friend. The fact of the matter is that Candy recieved a Dread Gurista Invulnerabilty Field, valued on market in excess of 300 million as an award or flattery from one of your members. The Sani Sabik thanks you for the funding. Candy... just out of curiosity, have have you done to the PIOUS PIE gentleman to make him open a trade window with you, and giving you a plus 300 million module? Perhaps if you invite me to your chambers one day my lady I'll show you. I apologise for the late reply She's quite good at it, I can vouch for her ontaht one
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 06:37:00 - [79] Originally by: Nathaniel Hull Id like some visual proof....cough... You'll have to ask PIE for that, they're forever demanding 'proof' for all manner of things...(quite untrusting / paranoid fellows these Loyalists). I wouldn't fear though, judging by the sums of money that seem to be involved here I wouldn't be in the least bit suprised if the Loyalist's had whole Imperial Libaries jammed full of Candy's holoreels..... C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Cailais Amarr VITOC The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 07:06:00 - [80] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Pathetic. Don't be so hard on yourselves Gaven. I admit though its a difficult posistion PIE find themselves in. Reject the scandalous accusations here and they appear old fashioned, behind the times and well, a bit boring really - hardly the image of a supposedly "elite" para-military force. Admit that the accusations are true and they will be roundly accused of hipocracy and riddled with corruption and sleaze. I'll leave it to you, dear reader, which it is - me? Well I think it's a bit of both! All that time in such an oppresive regime, must get very frustrating.... C. Idea: Diplomacy - sig designer - eve mail
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.30 07:17:00 - [81] Originally by: Cailais Originally by: Nathaniel Hull Id like some visual proof....cough... You'll have to ask PIE for that, they're forever demanding 'proof' for all manner of things...(quite untrusting / paranoid fellows these Loyalists). That's the fundamental difference between the loyalists and Revan's motley band. We always have proof with which to back up our claims. That's why neutrals trust our word. Let's look at Bloodveil's track record on proof, shall we? No proof that they have affected loyalist industrial corps with their "NWO" campaign. No proof that have converted even a single non-capsuleer in the Fensi system despite their claims to have converted an entire planet. And now, no proof that Lieutenant Lothos has done anything wrong. Why should anyone trust anything that is said by a Bloodveil cultist? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.30 07:57:00 - [82] Lies and corruption, the agenda remains the same. I actually wonder why you peons decided to base your alliance on the name and reputation of Sarikusa's Blood Raiders, when it is so crystal clear you have nothing in common with them. Perhaps it was the 'hip' thing to do at the moment... much like 'Versium Family'. PIE has a reputation of consistency and honor. It takes more than a petty smear campaign by proven liars to change that. ----------------------------------------------
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 12:38:00 - [83] Rodj, What do you offer as proof? A contract explained by the author for its title. This is has more substance, than a screen shot that you are throwing into everyone's face. What is surprising is that the Sani Sabik has uncovered impropriety (not that this bothers us greatly) of PIE member. We provided you with the information, then went out and found Candy and had her make a statement on IGS. What would clear this matter up is to have LT Lothos make his statement and that it be questioned by members of the Sani Sabik on IGS. If you claim that PIE acts with honor, then you know that you can't just one side of this delicate matter. You realize now at this point, PIE is attempting to cover up the whole affair with or without your knowledge. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.30 12:43:00 - [84] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Rodj, What do you offer as proof? A contract explained by the author for its title. No. No satisfactory explanation has been given by Candy. If she was trying to be discrete, why mention PIE at all? Isn't it more likely that she only changed her story after the Bloodveil leadership decided that the facts could be twisted and used in an attempt to smear the good name of Lieutenant Lothos? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.30 13:19:00 - [85] Originally by: Candy Sausage Perhaps if you invite me to your chambers one day my lady I'll show you. I apologise for the late reply Ahem I guess I preffer to not know ... "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"

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