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Jim Rickenbacher
Neapolis Industries
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:26:00 -
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What is the best covert ops frigate, NOT stealth bombers. Looking for something like "W>X>Y>Z" sort of answer. Thanks! |
Rixiu
North Star Networks
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:28:00 -
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Cheetah>Rest>Helios |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:28:00 -
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They all have the same scan bonus.....so it's really personal preference |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:39:00 -
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Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.
-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:41:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.
-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter
Actually, the cheetah is better since its more forgiving fitting wise, the grid on an Anathema is just.. tight.
...probably bad posting |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:43:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.
-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter Actually, the cheetah is better since its more forgiving fitting wise, the grid on an Anathema is just.. tight.
CPU:
Cheetah 343.75
Anathema 350
PG:
Cheetah 18.75
Anathema 25
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. |
Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.12.28 16:55:00 -
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Cheetah, Anathema, Buzzard, and Helios are good choices......... :P
I'm sorry, i couldn't resist. My point being that they all have the same scan bonus
so its really preference.
I use the anathema myself.
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Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2011.12.28 17:10:00 -
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The answer depends on what you want to do with your covert frigate? I prefer the Buzzard.
High
covert cloak
expanded probe launcher (I use Sister's for low CPU)
offline salvager (or online if low CPU use mod in low)
Mid
MWD
scram
web
passive em resist
shield extender
Low
MAPC
1 x whatever (WCS, DC II, nanofibre, intertial stabilizer, etc)
Rigs
2 x T1 scanning rigs
2,600 EHP with reasonably balanced resists
(Fit 2 x MAPC and fit a Medium Shield Extender II for 4,300 EHP)
mwd when needed
probe launcher
scram
web
salvager, cos you never know when you'll find an unattended wreck. Got to love 75 million ISK from one T3 salvage.
What else do you need to do in a Covert frigate?
Liam Mirren wrote:
CPU:
Cheetah 343.75
Anathema 350
PG:
Cheetah 18.75
Anathema 25
Buzzard
CPU 375 <=
PG 18.75
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2011.12.28 17:14:00 -
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Tengu fitted with the proper sub-systems. ;)
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Carl Thunderthise
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.28 17:21:00 -
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Anathema (because it looks great) > Cheetah (because it has those cool green lights) > Helios > Buzzard (because it's made out of two wooden planks.) |
Ralnik
Alpha Squad
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Posted - 2011.12.28 18:10:00 -
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For PVP related uses.
Cheata overall because it does everything any of the others do, but it's much more agile & the fastest one cloaked. This means a lot if you are sneaking up on a target and trying to get there fast or get in very close with out getting uncloaked. Not to mention getting away from competent bubble camps.
The Anathema is probably the best tackle covt ops. You can fit a pretty nice little set up on it with an AB, scram & dual tracking disruptors that will let you get a quick tackle so your main PVP ships can land. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
638
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Posted - 2011.12.28 18:57:00 -
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cheetah or hound
yes hound is a SB, but honestly if you think you're going to be able to gun someone down in a cov-ops you're crazy
its bad enough to try and tackle someone in a tankless frig yet alone trying to out gun them with 2 small turrets
but for recon, travel, blockade running and general cloaky games the Cheetah is best
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Elessa Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:25:00 -
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Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots? |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
639
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:28:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?
um... one with a cov-ops cloak?
it makes no difference if you are just sitting there, they can only see what you are in if you let them so you could be in a cloaky tengu for all they know and or fear
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
209
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:30:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?
Avatar is a nice covops titan.
You could also try a cloaky charon.
... |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:34:00 -
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Ok, so what if while I was doing that I was also surveying moons for the coming Dread invasion and cleansing of the system?
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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1050
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:35:00 -
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Anathema looks cool
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:44:00 -
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Jim Rickenbacher wrote:What is the best covert ops frigate, NOT stealth bombers. Looking for something like "W>X>Y>Z" sort of answer. Thanks!
I can't believe no one has given you the answer you're looking for...
W>X>Y>Z
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Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.28 19:46:00 -
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Ralnik wrote:For PVP related uses.
Cheata overall because it does everything any of the others do, but it's much more agile & the fastest one cloaked. This means a lot if you are sneaking up on a target and trying to get there fast or get in very close with out getting uncloaked. Not to mention getting away from competent bubble camps.
The Anathema is probably the best tackle covt ops. You can fit a pretty nice little set up on it with an AB, scram & dual tracking disruptors that will let you get a quick tackle so your main PVP ships can land.
Bit like this but without a web.
[Helios, PVP]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Co-Processor II
Internal Force Field Array I
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Hobgoblin II x1
Helios is also most agile I believe |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:01:00 -
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Republic Fleet Firetail with a 'Guise' cloak.
Untill you dscan and fly up to a POS with it anyway.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:10:00 -
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Whatever is the fastest to skill up?
Yes I know the Helios is the worst, but I trained it because I already had trained up Gallente Frig 5 for other things. I don't personally think any of the Covert ops frigs are amazing enough to train for specifically. If and when i cross train another race I will likely get other ones.
Just my .02 |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
188
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:19:00 -
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Morganta wrote:cheetah or hound
yes hound is a SB, but honestly if you think you're going to be able to gun someone down in a cov-ops you're crazy
its bad enough to try and tackle someone in a tankless frig yet alone trying to out gun them with 2 small turrets
but for recon, travel, blockade running and general cloaky games the Cheetah is best
Cov Ops are perfectly viable PVP ships for solo fights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97DjUru5Xw0 |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.28 20:33:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:
You could also try a cloaky charon.
...
Yeah, I'll give you $10 if you show me how to fit a cloak on a Charon.
Seriously though - almost anything can fit a cloak, and thus almost anything can feed people's paranoia. The Cov Ops cloak is real nice because it lets you move around, but if your game is to deny the system you just need to sit in your safe spot all day and don't actually need to go anywhere. |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.12.28 21:47:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:
You could also try a cloaky charon.
...
Yeah, I'll give you $10 if you show me how to fit a cloak on a Charon. Seriously though - almost anything can fit a cloak, and thus almost anything can feed people's paranoia. The Cov Ops cloak is real nice because it lets you move around, but if your game is to deny the system you just need to sit in your safe spot all day and don't actually need to go anywhere.
Thanks for the tip, now I shall return to terrorizing the natives of.... oops, I almost named the system, let's just say it has a "-" in it
lol |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.28 21:51:00 -
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Elessa Enaka wrote:Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?
BS.
You want to screw with active players. Why would bot makers not make their bots go into another system to make funds once it feels you are likely AFK?
This is why I hope my idea for adding balance to cloaking by removing the incentive for long term AFK cloaking is one day implemented.
Anathema is the best all around Covops BTW |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
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Posted - 2011.12.28 22:31:00 -
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Alticus C Bear wrote:Ralnik wrote:For PVP related uses.
Cheata overall because it does everything any of the others do, but it's much more agile & the fastest one cloaked. This means a lot if you are sneaking up on a target and trying to get there fast or get in very close with out getting uncloaked. Not to mention getting away from competent bubble camps.
The Anathema is probably the best tackle covt ops. You can fit a pretty nice little set up on it with an AB, scram & dual tracking disruptors that will let you get a quick tackle so your main PVP ships can land. Bit like this but without a web. [Helios, PVP] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Co-Processor II Internal Force Field Array I 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Expanded Probe Launcher II, Combat Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Hobgoblin II x1 Helios is also most agile I believe
I think he meant like this (faster, more agile and slightly smaller signature - just don't get hit, and you don't need a web):
[Anathema, Tackler]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I |
Topaz Sky
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Posted - 2011.12.28 22:53:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Why would bot makers not make their bots go into another system to make funds once it feels you are likely AFK?
Once a bot starts feeling that people might be AFK we'll have more serious problems than AFK cloakers. |
Elessa Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:04:00 -
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Topaz Sky wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Why would bot makers not make their bots go into another system to make funds once it feels you are likely AFK?
Once a bot starts feeling that people might be AFK we'll have more serious problems than AFK cloakers.
Yeah, I was under the impression that bots would either dock up or warp back to a real safe such as next to an online POS tower if there was someone unknown in system
So far, I know that I've been scouting my target system for nearly 24 hours now (yes, I'm an independently wealthy neckbeard with a mean stimulant addiction) and the natives haven't been away from their towers at all with no reaction in local to my varied attempts to communicate (though there was the single fleet invite, apparently they think I'm ******* ********)
Anyways, it will not be long before the Dread fleet comes along to clear out this system of all of its towers and customs offices |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments
Important Internet Spaceship League
387
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Posted - 2011.12.28 23:09:00 -
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Changed my mind- the best CovOps is...
A Loki.
...probably bad posting |
regentz
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 01:09:00 -
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Caldari Born
type of work i do i need to be able to use all 4 races. Due to limited quantity where i go although
My personal preference is the anathema
which is the sole reason that got me into playing eve
Kinda like my aunt
Sleek,Sexy,Curvatious
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