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Mighty Dread Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:20:00 Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:19:36 Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:17:37 Seems that much of EVE is rather savage, that most of what people work for is destructive not constructive (sure you build a POS but why? usually as a point to stage attacks), that there really isn't much of anything that is done for positive reasons, non-combative reasons. I mean...nobody is building a horticultural center right? It just seems everything is one big war machine with no other motivations but to kill, destroy, etc. Maybe what EVE needs is something positive for people to work towards. Put their isk into something else other than T2 equipped Ravens and such.
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:20:00 - [2] That's a mighty fine sig. -------------
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:20:00 - [3] Dude its the Internet, if were not whining about something its probably becasue were collecting our thoughts in between rants. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:22:00 - [4] Edited by: The Pointless on 02/05/2007 00:20:39 Guess the OP hit enter on the title box. Anyways, the only purpose of a doomsayer is to upset the happy. They have no other excuse to live. Oh, wait, you finally updated. Quote: I mean...nobody is building a horticultural center right? Erm, I know a POS I stumbled across on Monday certainly wasn't designed for War or guns or owt like that. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Mighty Dread Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:22:00 - [5] Hehe heh, hit enter before I actually posted. Thanks for the compliment Diux.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:38:00 - [6] o lol figured you were gonna be talkin about the forum whinage Anyway yeah, I want to see more incidental/RP-y/'fun' type stuff, thats not necessarily purely for 'getting ahead'. For example, one of the things I notice is theres basically no incidental NPCs just floating around doing their thing. Theres police, for if you attack someone, and pirates, to kill for isk, and trailers for 'legal piracy' but not really anything whose presence has no effect on you. I find myself reading the eve chronicles just to get a feel for the game world, cause Im not getting it from my regular schedule of 'buy ship, fit ship, blow stuff up, repeat'. Hopefully as they add station-walking theyll do more such incidentals. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:47:00 - [7] Ok then I think to do that they need to start making the trade goods actualy realy do something real.
Mighty Dread Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:59:00 - [8] Yeah, I'm just thinking there should be some positive achievements in EVE other than war or otherwise being more uber-combat than the next guy or gal. Even the carebear aspect of the game, all those minerals, just end up in the war machine. Funny thing is, lets say people could build space sculptures out of wrecks and exhibit them, you know within the hour people would be trying to blow it up. Even in the hell of RL we still have positive things in the world that kinda makes life worth living. Here in EVE though we just have the equivalent of WWII.
Hellman109 Gallente Magnetar Ltd Dark Synergy	Posted - 2007.05.02 01:04:00 - [9] Its because they want a buff / nerf to be put in. IE, freighters. They can be high sec suicide ganked. if you fly or make use of a freigher the normal for the forums answer is either: "ZOMG THIS SUCKS FIX CCP NOW FIX FIX FIX CAUSE FRIGHtERS ARE NOW USELESS" (ignoring that the 'problem' has generally always existed) or "IM GOING TO GET ALL MY SHIPS AND GANK THEM ALL THAT WILL LEARN CCP" (ie "fix fix fix") Normal discussion rules are ignored on most MMO forums, flaming and exagerations are the norm. Basically, if someone is killed, the game is broken. My vexor was ganked by a BS the other day by a war dec'd alliance member, Therfore BS' need a nerf / I need a buff. Hmm how about a no penalty inbuilt stab or 50? Thats the normal thinking around here anyway...
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.05.02 01:10:00 - [10] Edited by: DubanFP on 02/05/2007 01:06:24 Originally by: Mighty Dread Even in the hell of RL we still have positive things in the world that kinda makes life worth living. Here in EVE though we just have the equivalent of WWII. Pretty narrow view of the world... People died in WWII, craploads of them, nobody dies in EVE. Hence EVE = not hellish, not even close compared to WWII. ______________________ [img] Interested?
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.02 01:32:00 - [11] Concord missions. More concord loving corps. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - ISD will never find me... In my signature! BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul
Quan Ko	Posted - 2007.05.02 02:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Mighty Dread Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:20:00 Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:19:36 Edited by: Mighty Dread on 02/05/2007 00:17:37 Seems that much of EVE is rather savage, that most of what people work for is destructive not constructive (sure you build a POS but why? usually as a point to stage attacks), that there really isn't much of anything that is done for positive reasons, non-combative reasons. I mean...nobody is building a horticultural center right? It just seems everything is one big war machine with no other motivations but to kill, destroy, etc. Maybe what EVE needs is something positive for people to work towards. Put their isk into something else other than T2 equipped Ravens and such. No offense bro, but go pound sand. I play Eve to kill people like you in space. .
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.02 02:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Quan Ko No offense bro, but go pound sand. I play Eve to kill people like you in space. So? Just because you like to blow s**t up, doesn't mean everyone else has to? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Mighty Dread Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:20:00 - [14] My apology if I seemed to make light of WWII by comparing it to a video game. What I meant is to compare the ingame economy and general focus of the goals in EVE to that of the general mentality of a narrow slice of RL, essentially times of war and conquest. My point is that war, armed conflict, destruction, is but a small part of what we are capable of experiencing. The very word "EVE" suggests creation, perhaps the creation of a new world, but everything in EVE seems geared towards destruction. What I'd like to see is something worth attaining in EVE that is not part of the war machine. Something that is not about destruction, but creation. I'm not speaking out against PVP, I am merely saying that there should be goals in EVE that embrace the more positive sides of existence. Unless of course we are all banished to hell, forever to war with each other. Which might go further to explain the destruction of the EVE gate.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.02 04:58:00 - [15] No worries I get what you mean, and I agree. There isnt really much stuff in eve that exists for purposes other than "getting ahead" which sucks if you just wanna spend your Friday night screwin around. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.02 05:10:00 - [16] creation = work destruction = fun That pretty much sums it up.
Hellman109 Gallente Magnetar Ltd Dark Synergy	Posted - 2007.05.02 05:12:00 - [17] I sit and talk in corp channels or haul for someone and such when Im not doing anything else. If you in a good corp there are heaps of other things you can do.
Kate Nexus	Posted - 2007.05.02 06:39:00 - [18] EVE is all about destroying other people's items. If I can ruin 5 or 6 people's day by destroying their ship then I'm a happy camper. I imagine them crying at their keyboards and all the time I made them waste. It's better than teamkilling in a first person shooter because their ships dont respawn. Maybe they should add some culture goal to get them out of empire. I'm personally sick and tired of players who have their faction fitted ravens having a happy day every day, doing their missions or chatting. If I want to ruin their day, week, or month I should be able to.

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