EVE Search - Urge to angst in epic format.. rising..

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Urge to angst in epic format.. rising..

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.03 01:46:00 - [31] I attempted to follow it but got completely lost along the way and have no idea what any of the OP is actually about. Something about whining about whiners and whining about devs trying to please the majority, written by someone who would make this community implode if he became a dev. That and some tinfoilhattery about how they keep bugs in eve on purpose. How this relates to CAOD being the propaganda machine it is, I don't know. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Last Cause Green Gecko Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.03 01:54:00 - [32] Feel accomplished in that I actually just read all of that. Some valid points followed up with something unusual......EXAMPLES AND LOGIC. I understand man, I really do. If I worked for CCP, I'd probably regard the community exactly like that. People don't like losing, and they very rarely accept it to be thier fault. It was proven in an experiment, people who are incompetent are incapable of knowing so, usually believing themselves to be ABOVE average when asked about the talent. People above the average skill tend to be self-concious and consider themselves average or below. Same reasoning, the people that whine and cry that this thing or that thing is unfair/broken/stupid etc. are usually the ones who just can't accept that at least half the population has to be the below average group. So, everyone quit acting like children just because no one sees your real face. In EVE, you see who people really are. You see a side of them that some people don't even show to thier family. Thread summary: CCP isn't listening because you guys whine no matter what they do. Shut up, play the game and take responsibility for your OWN shortfalls before blaming others. -Sig- Looking for mayhem, killing and theft? We got it! Green Gecko Inc. is recruiting! Recruitment Poster
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.03 02:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Coralian Burn A gamer is someone who is there to have fun, be challenged, and walk away with a positive experience at the end of it. And you can't get that in a game thats imbalanced, broken, or worse. Fans of popular games like Diablo and C&C enjoy them for what they are, or in the case of StarCraft, worship them. The gamers who know the vast potential of EVE and where it could be are the ones I'm trying to appeal to here. are you trying to include starcraft into games that are broken ? other than the flavor of the month hack it has been well balanced and tweaked so i disagree with your opinion and can only expect further BS from you theres a name for guys like you "ignorant know it alls" your opinion is right and no one elses ! good luck to you ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 02:14:00 - [34] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/05/2007 02:11:38 First i skimmed past your rantings thinking it was too much - i like point and click and wathcing red bars grow - not reading and thinking about stuff. Anyways - then I wnet back and read the lot. Ive marked your essay for you. Positive Points Of the above rant Quote: "and judging by the amount of men playing female avatars for dubious reasons - EVE sex reassignment. " LOL Quote: "EVE sponsored presidential candidate Hilary Clinton" LOL Quote: "Before "Soon(tm)" became a witty catchphrase and then later a dissapointingly overplayed joke that induced vomiting and spasms," LOL Quote: "Dev perkiness is inversely proportional to the angst within the community and all things concerned with reality." Nearly went in the negative slot for more nerd-words but after consulting my maths book it went in the + side. Quote: "Nowhere in the EULA does it state that I am paying to be a goddamn Communist. The game is thoroughly advertised as being a place where you get to make the rules if you outwit, outplay and outlast the opponents. I've done all those and have the capability to go anywhere, do anything, fight anyone.And I still see more than half of EVE's populace flying around with the newbie flag in empire. Furthermore, its become increasingly difficult to have any impact on the soft side of alliances." Ahmen - we tried - we got the nerfing. Quote: "Capital ships are turning into personal carebearlogisticmobiles, resulting in single individuals being able to cover the logistics overhead of a dozen POS and/or the construction of their own supercapital." Yup Quote: "Devs will do the bare minimum to satisfy the majority while producing the same levels of hype typically associated with lunar landings" LOL!!! Quote: "the best you can say is that we've had some really good e-peen battles over blips on the map and been ganked by ninja Doomsdays" heh Negative Points Of the above rant Quote: "Charging extra money for expansion packs would have caused the game and its company to get bombed like WW2." Something dosent sit right with this phrasing. WW2 wasnt bombed itself. Sities were bombed yes. But the war itself wasnt. I fell the OP knew this when he wrote it but floudered for a better example before ignoring it. Quote: "AMIRITE?" Tacky Quote: "Revelations III = OTIII." NERD. Nerdy comparison and to many roman numerals spoil the broth Quote: "Lag - I have more problems with the fact that it is so erradic, than with it being there. I know you do too" So close to being in the + side. But your typo ruined it. Quote: "Your characters and the universe itself will cease to exist." Mentioning this is a big taboo. Ive spent 1.5 years of skill training this bugger and i still cant get into anything really decent. But i cant let him go... oh no. Must make him bigger and better. Dont delete him CCP - hes my friend. Quote: "What makes EVE worth all this trouble? " Dont say that you will frighten the pwecious noob revenue stream / lead the vets to smartbomb their wrists. Overall I give it 8.5 out of ten. I felt such a post deserved a good look and thorugh marking. Good luck with the becoming a forum celebrity. SKUNK
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 02:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Ash Vincetti Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 02/05/2007 23:12:31 Hello, whenever an individual decides to so palaverously calumniate such a verbose vituperation with as much acumen as you have, it is my instinctual solicitation to inquire as to whether I may appropriate their unwanted apputenances. Thread won, we can all leave now -
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.03 02:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Last Cause It was proven in an experiment, people who are incompetent are incapable of knowing so, usually believing themselves to be ABOVE average when asked about the talent. People above the average skill tend to be self-concious and consider themselves average or below. ok so you are saying that a false paradox was proven good for you i guess anyone that is told they are smart by others must now begin doubting whatever anyone says to fit into your mold of of being below average intelligence if you believe yourself to be ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.03 03:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Coralian Burn ... Amen. ...
moxica	Posted - 2007.05.03 03:33:00 - [38] Edited by: moxica on 03/05/2007 03:30:24 Could somebody disinfect those first six posts for me please? Just one or two lines would be super.
Arkios Odymei Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2007.05.03 05:48:00 - [39] It was long... but was worth the read. I agree with alot of the points. Originally by: Marcathonas Moros + huginn + bubble = super happy carnage time.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.03 05:54:00 - [40] Originally by: moxica Edited by: moxica on 03/05/2007 03:30:24 Could somebody disinfect those first six posts for me please? Just one or two lines would be super. its a self-appreciating post about how eve is getting worse (see whining) how theres too much whining - how money talks - and a brief history of alliances (see irrelevant and taking the game a bit too seriously) ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Crypt Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 06:26:00 - [41] Quote: What makes EVE worth all this trouble? The answer is simple. Eve is the most diverse game on the market and has been for a number of years now. It provides a little something for everyone. Granted there are bugs, missteps by the developers and lots and lots of exploits but it is still the hands down winner of all thats currently available. This one'll do until a better one comes along. Quote: It is a poor sort of man who is content to be spoon-fed knowledge that has been filtered through the canon of religious or political belief. ~ Louis L'Amour
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.05.03 07:32:00 - [42] an Eve laser pan would be ace! here's the t2 version. they're $1,699.99 from www.wickedlasers.com, if you're desperate to burst some balloons in style.
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.05.03 08:31:00 - [43] Edited by: Miss Anthropy on 03/05/2007 08:27:27 Originally by: Coralian Burn A very long and tedious rant and/or discussion of some kind which probably had some cathartic effect on the author... Is there a paraphrased or truncated version available? --------- My views, whether true, false or offensive, represent the views of my corporation and fellow corp members.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.03 08:31:00 - [44] Edited by: Plutoinum on 03/05/2007 08:33:44 I've read it, but don't agree to all of it. You contradict yourself a bit, because in some areas like pos warfare, you say we should accept the game mechanics like it is and not whine to get something changed, later at the bottom you complain about game mechanics yourself. Btw the pos warfare example of RA vs. The 5 forgot one major point. You say that RA used all means possible to keep that space and that 'The 5' didn't really need it. That's true. You probably think RA invested a lot of work by spamming all those towers, so were stronger and deserved to win. No matter if it's true or not, it doesn't change the fact that the game mechanics to decide about winning or losing that war were stupid ! POS warfare was different at that time. POS were to be taken down with battleships and not dreads. The rules with different tower sizes and that poses count for sovereignty not within the 5 days after onlining wasn't there. POS warfare was spamming small tower right before downtime, after downtime they counted and then the enemy had to take them down with battleships or spam towers himself. RA was active around DT, The 5 not. And at that time a small tower cost only 40 mil isk or so ? After that the game mechanics got changed. So what makes you believe that it is perfect now and that changes can't make it better ? The point is, if people like a game mechanics, they say everything is fine: 'It's just gamemechanics, it's the same for everyone, live with it. Don't whine, play the game !'. They want to keep the status-quo and ignore that the status-quo wasn't there from the beginning, but is a result of game changes and rebalancing. And if they don't like the status-quo in some other area of the game, they complain about stupid game mechanics themselves. ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
eeevans Boring Conversation Anyway	Posted - 2007.05.03 08:59:00 - [45] a high tensile quality post, the likes of which these forums rarely ever see. i demand more. :)
Malcanis High4Life	Posted - 2007.05.03 09:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Ash Vincetti Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 02/05/2007 23:12:31 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 02/05/2007 23:12:07 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 02/05/2007 23:11:37 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 02/05/2007 23:11:14 Hello, whenever an individual decides to so palaverously calumniate such a verbose vituperation with as much acumen as you have, it is my instinctual solicitation to inquire as to whether I may appropriate their unwanted apputenances. crying with laughter
fuze Gallente Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency	Posted - 2007.05.03 09:27:00 - [47] Guess someone was happy finishing advanced forum ranting level 5. And stop picking on Woody!
Osmaal Amarr Courteous Ultra-Nice Transport Services	Posted - 2007.05.03 10:57:00 - [48] From the mixed response from previous posters I would be interested in reading the OP's thoughts. However due to its length I feel that I must ask if anyone can right up some cliff notes listing the main points because in all fairness I really have better things to do such as play EVE!! NB: This is not intended as a flame - just a simple request for a more condensed abbreviated version.
Maze La'Zie Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.05.03 11:47:00 - [49] Edited by: Maze La''Zie on 03/05/2007 11:45:34 I read it all. It was well written and there were many salient, if somewhat cynical, points that were well made. Coralian, do you have any solutions to the problems which you identify? Or is the solution for those who have the capacity to understand your points to simply get on with the game and enjoy it as best they can? I'm interested in your follow-up. Perhaps you can convert a few of the masses into slightly more enlightened gamers. Edited for spelling.
eeevans Boring Conversation Anyway	Posted - 2007.05.03 11:49:00 - [50] Originally by: Osmaal I must ask if anyone can right up some cliff notes listing the main points just read it, you lazy spacker.
Jack Creme	Posted - 2007.05.03 12:43:00 - [51] Edited by: Jack Creme on 03/05/2007 12:44:39 Edited by: Jack Creme on 03/05/2007 12:44:21 I'll follow Le Skunk's example and mark your essay C+. You were marked down because you didn't provide a summary. A summary is essential for lazy hacks like me who like a good read but can't be bothered to go over the detail again to identify the arguments. You also lost credit by posting a long philosophical essay in a forum generally associated with short articles aimed to provide its readers with either a good larf or uninspired whining (usually accomplished by the use of gobbledy** english). You should have posted it in the forum called 'Long Philosophical Essays about Eve' where it would languish unread except by the odd student writing a thesis on the 'Rise and Fall' of an MMO game called 'Eve'. I do, however, agree with one of your points which is that CCP should not alter the game constructs simply in response to what is said in forums - if that is the case. This would be worrying because it would mean that 'testing' is inadequate or rushed. Even if I had any useful ideas about how this could be overcome I doubt that they would be listened to and they might wind up in a forum called: 'Long Philosophical Essays about Eve' where noone would read them. So, in summary. A good effort, but try and be more selective with your audience. What on earth's wrong with gobbledy**? Its just a noun meaning 'nonsense'?
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:15:00 - [52] Originally by: Jack Creme Edited by: Jack Creme on 03/05/2007 12:44:39 Edited by: Jack Creme on 03/05/2007 12:44:21 I'll follow Le Skunk's example and mark your essay C+. You were marked down because you didn't provide a summary. A summary is essential for lazy hacks like me who like a good read but can't be bothered to go over the detail again to identify the arguments. You also lost credit by posting a long philosophical essay in a forum generally associated with short articles aimed to provide its readers with either a good larf or uninspired whining (usually accomplished by the use of gobbledy** english). You should have posted it in the forum called 'Long Philosophical Essays about Eve' where it would languish unread except by the odd student writing a thesis on the 'Rise and Fall' of an MMO game called 'Eve'. I do, however, agree with one of your points which is that CCP should not alter the game constructs simply in response to what is said in forums - if that is the case. This would be worrying because it would mean that 'testing' is inadequate or rushed. Even if I had any useful ideas about how this could be overcome I doubt that they would be listened to and they might wind up in a forum called: 'Long Philosophical Essays about Eve' where noone would read them. So, in summary. A good effort, but try and be more selective with your audience. What on earth's wrong with gobbledy**? Its just a noun meaning 'nonsense'? I assume the second part of the word ties in with a racial slur oft head in vietnam film. Likewise - what mutley the dog would do in wacky races is jumped on dud to a racial slur in the last 6 letters SKUNK
Jack Creme	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:21:00 - [53] Ah! I see. Chambers Online: **** noun 1 US offensive slang someone of Asiatic race, especially a Japanese, Korean or Vietnamese soldier. 2 especially formerly in Rhodesia: a guerrilla or terrorist.
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:29:00 - [54] anyway the secret to my giant beefsteak tomatoes is the water from the goose pond. So far the smallest tomatoe is 6 inches circ. And my corn is growing huge useing chicken droppings! Who would know a chicken could be so useful!! And we finally got the damn goat to eats the weeds and not the vette...swear I was going to shoot the damn thing. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:43:00 - [55] Originally by: Jack Creme I do, however, agree with one of your points which is that CCP should not alter the game constructs simply in response to what is said in forums - if that is the case. That pretty much sums up the entire post. Anything else is irrelevant, illogical, paradoxical, incorrect, or subjective opinion. Even the (granted, interesting) ancillary article on "The History of Alliance Warfare" (or "ZOMG GANK!") is based on objective opinion garnered from subjective viewpoints, thus polluting the author's illustrious efforts to present an unbiased opinion. Alas this requires an award of a D+ from me, for this point alone. And in response to this point, it's the same with any form of representative system. If not everyone speaks up through the means given, then the loudest voices are heard. Voting falls into this. Lastly, the author gets bonus points for making me realise something: all the new people to the forum who come here specifically to request the un-nerfing of something, can (quite frankly) STFU. Under the same principle that people who don't vote if they had the chance should be *****slapped for complaining as to who was elected. -J --------------------------------- "He who 'hah hahs' last, 'hah hahs' best." - Nelson Balanced != Nerfed
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:51:00 - [56] Good rant, interesting summary of some of EVE's history for those of us who weren't here to see it. Still, all it does is make EVE like any other MMO in existance. Titans and Supercapitals are to EVE what Tier 3 armor is to WoW, and Stun layered Composite armor to oldschool SWG. The ever outward spiraling arms race in the neverending quest for glory, loot, and pwnage. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Jack Creme	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:51:00 - [57] Wasn't this one was it?:
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.05.03 15:55:00 - [58] Originally by: Janu Hull Good rant, interesting summary of some of EVE's history for those of us who weren't here to see it. Still, all it does is make EVE like any other MMO in existance. Titans and Supercapitals are to EVE what Tier 3 armor is to WoW, and Stun layered Composite armor to oldschool SWG. The ever outward spiraling arms race in the neverending quest for glory, loot, and pwnage. Woah, you think Stun layered composite is old school? I really must be getting on -J --------------------------------- "He who 'hah hahs' last, 'hah hahs' best." - Nelson Balanced != Nerfed
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.03 16:17:00 - [59] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Janu Hull Good rant, interesting summary of some of EVE's history for those of us who weren't here to see it. Still, all it does is make EVE like any other MMO in existance. Titans and Supercapitals are to EVE what Tier 3 armor is to WoW, and Stun layered Composite armor to oldschool SWG. The ever outward spiraling arms race in the neverending quest for glory, loot, and pwnage. Woah, you think Stun layered composite is old school? I really must be getting on Old school in the sense of it being part of the original game now two generations of revamp dead and buried. Layering went out in the CU, then the NGE...well, it was the NGE... This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.05.03 16:25:00 - [60] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Janu Hull Good rant, interesting summary of some of EVE's history for those of us who weren't here to see it. Still, all it does is make EVE like any other MMO in existance. Titans and Supercapitals are to EVE what Tier 3 armor is to WoW, and Stun layered Composite armor to oldschool SWG. The ever outward spiraling arms race in the neverending quest for glory, loot, and pwnage. Woah, you think Stun layered composite is old school? I really must be getting on Old school in the sense of it being part of the original game now two generations of revamp dead and buried. Layering went out in the CU, then the NGE...well, it was the NGE... I remember a time without layering. And where TK kicked ass, as they rightly should . CU ftl It wasn't actually that bad a game before. -J --------------------------------- "He who 'hah hahs' last, 'hah hahs' best." - Nelson Balanced != Nerfed

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.