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kessah
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.03 00:52:00 -
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This is a highly spec'ed setup, only really for the die fan Amarr fans. Let me know what you think tho.
7x MP t2
1x wd 1x web 1x sb t2
2x nano adaptives 3x active t2 hardeners (kin them exp) 1x LAR t2 1x HS t2 1x Co-pro t2
Rigs:
1x ROF rig 1x exp 1x kin
Resistances: 76/83/84/80
Required skills lvl 5 AWU, lvl 5 Energy weapon rigging.
With conflag and laser spec 4 Amarr bs 5; 802 dps (with t2 heavy drones fully spec'ed extra 300-400 dps) with damage implants even more..
Your probably think no cap, i guess thats a pitfall, might be best to fit some heavy ECM drones in there, but im playing the resistance card here. i liked the look of this setup, again lemmie know your thoughts. --------------------------------------------------------
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Marquis Dean
Energy. Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.03 00:58:00 -
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I think you're gonna have cap issues. And with 3 actives, 2 adaptives, and 2 resist rigs, at least two of them (probly the exp and kin resists on the adaptives) are going to get stacking-nerfed into non-existence, there's better things you could do with those lowslots/rigslots.
Also with those armor rigs, you aren't going to get enough speed otu of it.
And you have no scram. ---
Originally by: Tista i dont like you much but i'm going to agree with you on that.
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kessah
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you're gonna have cap issues. And with 3 actives, 2 adaptives, and 2 resist rigs, at least two of them (probly the exp and kin resists on the adaptives) are going to get stacking-nerfed into non-existence, there's better things you could do with those lowslots/rigslots.
Also with those armor rigs, you aren't going to get enough speed otu of it.
And you have no scram.
wd = warp disruptor.
speed isnt an issue, not going to be going places fast. cap shouldnt be too bad might drop the sensor booster for a med cap injector just for the guns if needed. or drop the lar t2 for a mar \ plate go passive. Not a super solo ship anymore.
Thanks for comment tho --------------------------------------------------------
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Marquis Dean
Energy. Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you're gonna have cap issues. And with 3 actives, 2 adaptives, and 2 resist rigs, at least two of them (probly the exp and kin resists on the adaptives) are going to get stacking-nerfed into non-existence, there's better things you could do with those lowslots/rigslots.
Also with those armor rigs, you aren't going to get enough speed otu of it.
And you have no scram.
wd = warp disruptor.
speed isnt an issue, not going to be going places fast. cap shouldnt be too bad might drop the sensor booster for a med cap injector just for the guns if needed. or drop the lar t2 for a mar \ plate go passive. Not a super solo ship anymore.
Thanks for comment tho
Oh I see, I thought that was a typo for mwd. In that case, you're going to struggle to kill anything unless you warp in on top of it and web it straight away, if it's >10km it's just going to leave and there's sweet f.a. you can do about it. This would be good in a gatecamp or roving gang, but you need more midslots to solo PvP these days. ---
Originally by: Tista i dont like you much but i'm going to agree with you on that.
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kessah
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you're gonna have cap issues. And with 3 actives, 2 adaptives, and 2 resist rigs, at least two of them (probly the exp and kin resists on the adaptives) are going to get stacking-nerfed into non-existence, there's better things you could do with those lowslots/rigslots.
Also with those armor rigs, you aren't going to get enough speed otu of it.
And you have no scram.
wd = warp disruptor.
speed isnt an issue, not going to be going places fast. cap shouldnt be too bad might drop the sensor booster for a med cap injector just for the guns if needed. or drop the lar t2 for a mar \ plate go passive. Not a super solo ship anymore.
Thanks for comment tho
Oh I see, I thought that was a typo for mwd. In that case, you're going to struggle to kill anything unless you warp in on top of it and web it straight away, if it's >10km it's just going to leave and there's sweet f.a. you can do about it. This would be good in a gatecamp or roving gang, but you need more midslots to solo PvP these days.
Aye... shame the geddon is complete crap these days. :/ --------------------------------------------------------
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Marquis Dean
Energy. Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Marquis Dean I think you're gonna have cap issues. And with 3 actives, 2 adaptives, and 2 resist rigs, at least two of them (probly the exp and kin resists on the adaptives) are going to get stacking-nerfed into non-existence, there's better things you could do with those lowslots/rigslots.
Also with those armor rigs, you aren't going to get enough speed otu of it.
And you have no scram.
wd = warp disruptor.
speed isnt an issue, not going to be going places fast. cap shouldnt be too bad might drop the sensor booster for a med cap injector just for the guns if needed. or drop the lar t2 for a mar \ plate go passive. Not a super solo ship anymore.
Thanks for comment tho
Oh I see, I thought that was a typo for mwd. In that case, you're going to struggle to kill anything unless you warp in on top of it and web it straight away, if it's >10km it's just going to leave and there's sweet f.a. you can do about it. This would be good in a gatecamp or roving gang, but you need more midslots to solo PvP these days.
Aye... shame the geddon is complete crap these days. :/
Like the Drake and Rokh, it makes excellent gang support but sucks ass solo.  ---
Originally by: Tista i dont like you much but i'm going to agree with you on that.
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0raven0
OUTLAWZ IMMORTAL
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Like the Drake and Rokh, it makes excellent gang support but sucks ass solo. 
ROFL, drake is a solo pwnmobile. ------
Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
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Marquis Dean
Energy. Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.03 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: 0raven0
Originally by: Marquis Dean
Like the Drake and Rokh, it makes excellent gang support but sucks ass solo. 
ROFL, drake is a solo pwnmobile.
Your Drake vs my Myrmidon. I win, the end. ---
Originally by: Tista i dont like you much but i'm going to agree with you on that.
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Chronus26
Gallente Team Laser Explosion
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Posted - 2007.05.03 02:00:00 -
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For gankage:
7 MP II
Ditto on the Mids
MAR II 2x 1600mm RT Plates 1x Named Damage Control 1x EANM II 3x Heatsink II
Even with good cap skills Conflag hits cap like a nerfbat to the face, giving it a little trouble in prolonged fights. Not really a solo setup anyway.
I prefer:
7 DHP II
Disruptor Web Medium Cap Booster
LAR II 2x EANM II 2x 1600MM RT 2x Heatsink II Damage Control II
I unfortunatly only got to test it a handful of times before it fell victim to a nasty pirate bait-trap, but it performed exceptionaly well. Didn't even have cap trouble with Conflag, the LAR and a NOSDomi + NOSing Tempest pew pewing me.
You might wanna take a look at the Abaddon too. People who say Amarr aren't worth flying clearly haven't fought one. <3 -----
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Neon Razor
Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:21:00 -
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7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll dont trust badgers |

Pe'ter
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
nasty!
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Chronus26
Gallente Team Laser Explosion
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
The ROF rigs will have minimal effect due to stacking penalty. Even the 4th Heat Sink is borderline useless. much better with Trimark armor pumps or somthing to increase survivability. -----
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Tanox
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
Plain moronic, since the rigs are stacked with the heat sinks!
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v4mpir
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:35:00 -
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no no no!
all wrong! why do people insist on using megapulse. megapulse is soooo <explicit deleted>.
use tach II's and sort your cap out (ccc rigs ftw)
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Neon Razor
Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tanox
Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
Plain moronic, since the rigs are stacked with the heat sinks!
fitting the 2x ROF rigs increases my ROF from 3.06 to 2.51 last time i looked that is an increase of over 1/2 second per shot which means i get 167 shots a min instead of 137 dont trust badgers |

Arx Impera
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:10:00 -
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Why in all nine hells would you want to solo in a Geddon?
Amarr and Caldari Battleships are a red light for solo, it just doesnt happen, dont attempt to force it. Use it like its meant to be used, in gangs, as the badass juggernaut among tacklers.
Anyway...
7 MP
2 Sensor Booster 1 Disruptor / 1 Tracking Computer / (1 Injector)
1 LAR 2 1600 Plates 1 DCU 1 EANM 3 Heat Sinks
3 Cap or Armor Rigs.
If you want injector, you either downgrade to T1 bested named, put MAR instead of LAR, or put a PG rig. Thou I dont find it much needed in gangs.
Rule is to passive tank it. Dont count on running everything perma, so remove the strain from taking, just plate it to hell and back, and do more damage then your target. LAR is there for some help and after-fight recovering.
Geddon doesnt have CPU, so dont try to tank it with hardeners and EANMs and other CPU intensive stuff. If you really want to, use faction to cut down the CPU.
Control range via crystal swap, not based on speed and web.
Then become a warping turret, with thousands of armor and DCU hull buffer and full gank built, scoring excellent hits with the track computer or helping out in a gate camp with the disruptor.
...who of course promptly went bat****, flipped out and killed some people. |

Siakel
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Razor
Originally by: Tanox
Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
Plain moronic, since the rigs are stacked with the heat sinks!
fitting the 2x ROF rigs increases my ROF from 3.06 to 2.51 last time i looked that is an increase of over 1/2 second per shot which means i get 167 shots a min instead of 137
Uhm... no. That isn't how Rig stacking works. They stack using the same formula as the heatsinks, whereas you calculated the Rigs as 10%/8.7%. In reality, these rigs are going to be giving you something along the lines of 0.7%/0.03% RoF bonuses. (This is why Damage/RoF rigs are largely useless)
Your Shots/Minute numbers are also wrong, seeing as how a RoF of 3.06 is going to give you 19.6 shots/minute and 2.51 RoF gives you 23.9 shots/minute.
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Neon Razor
Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Siakel
Originally by: Neon Razor
Originally by: Tanox
Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
Plain moronic, since the rigs are stacked with the heat sinks!
fitting the 2x ROF rigs increases my ROF from 3.06 to 2.51 last time i looked that is an increase of over 1/2 second per shot which means i get 167 shots a min instead of 137
Uhm... no. That isn't how Rig stacking works. They stack using the same formula as the heatsinks, whereas you calculated the Rigs as 10%/8.7%. In reality, these rigs are going to be giving you something along the lines of 0.7%/0.03% RoF bonuses. (This is why Damage/RoF rigs are largely useless)
Your Shots/Minute numbers are also wrong, seeing as how a RoF of 3.06 is going to give you 19.6 shots/minute and 2.51 RoF gives you 23.9 shots/minute.
geddon has 7 guns. also they may stack like that but i am only telling you what i have on my geddon atm dont trust badgers |

God forbid
Amarr Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.03 18:34:00 -
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Ok I would Never use that setup.. But Not a Bad Resistance You are getting on a Armageddon.. Still Here are 2 Setups that I have been using..
More Of a Gank..
7 Mega pulse T2 1 Medium Diminhsing
1 Medium Cap Booster T2/True Sansha Heavy 1 Sensor booster T2 1 Fleeting Web
3 1600mm Rolled Plate 3 Heat Sinks T2/Dark Blood 1 Damage Control T2 1 Dark Blood Adaptive Plating
Rigs 3 Trimark T1/T2
5 Heavy Drones T2..
This one Im using more becouse I need to tank sentrys more often.. But The cap on it isnt that great Tbh..  
7 DPH T2 1 Heavy Diminshing Nos
1 True Sansha Heavy Cap booster 1 Sensor Booster T2 1 Fleeting Web
2 Large Armor Repairs T2 1 Dark Blood Exp Hardener 1 Dark Blood Kin Hardener 1 Dark Blood Adaptive Plating 1 Damage Control T2 2 Heat Sinks T2
Rigs 1.. 1 Anti-Thermic T1/1 Auxiliary Nano Pump T2/1 Energy Collision Accelerator I Rigs 2.. 1 Anti-Thermic T2/2 Auxiliary Nano Pump T2
5 Heavy Drones T2..
Go Pwn.. 
Quote: "Dont Be too Cool for your Mam"
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Tanox
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Posted - 2007.05.03 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tanox on 03/05/2007 19:38:28
Originally by: Neon Razor Edited by: Neon Razor on 03/05/2007 17:04:49
Originally by: Siakel
Originally by: Neon Razor
Originally by: Tanox
Originally by: Neon Razor 7x mega pulse ll
2x sensor booster ll 1x medium cap injector ll
4x heat sink ll 3x reinforced bulkhead ll 1x dcu ll
2x laser rof rigs
5x ogre ll
Plain moronic, since the rigs are stacked with the heat sinks!
fitting the 2x ROF rigs increases my ROF from 3.06 to 2.51 last time i looked that is an increase of over 1/2 second per shot which means i get 167 shots a min instead of 137
Uhm... no. That isn't how Rig stacking works. They stack using the same formula as the heatsinks, whereas you calculated the Rigs as 10%/8.7%. In reality, these rigs are going to be giving you something along the lines of 0.7%/0.03% RoF bonuses. (This is why Damage/RoF rigs are largely useless)
Your Shots/Minute numbers are also wrong, seeing as how a RoF of 3.06 is going to give you 19.6 shots/minute and 2.51 RoF gives you 23.9 shots/minute.
geddon has 7 guns. also they may stack like that but i am only telling you what i have on my geddon atm. if they only gave a small bonus i would not be using them as i could find something much better to fit onto my geddon but the do give a good bonus so i will stick with them
If you are happy, i'm happy! Now where do you normally hang out in low-sec?
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Neon Razor
Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 21:17:00 -
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normally found in vale or in the south for the next month or so i will be hanging around 3-f and badi dont trust badgers |
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