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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 09:28:30 -
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And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.
It always seems to be the same m.o
1. You hunt for a corp on eve forums or reddit, and/or you post an advert with you spiel on the same. 2. You get contacted by peoples 3. You speak to those people and maybe make a decision on the back of that 4. You join, move all your stuff to their system. 5. A few weeks or months later something isnt right and you start again. The something not right could be anything, it could either be the corp was not as advertised, less active that you would like, rip off JF service if you're in null that winds you up, or the corp goes in a direction that you don't want to go in and whilst you like the people, you dont want go in that direction and/or any other reason.
This is not sustainable and I don't want to keep on jumping corps. Ive alradyplaced an advert up but then thought about writing here to see if anyone can offer suggestions on finding that ideal corp without having to take a punt on the forums/reddit.
The forum post always tend to be the same, a list of wants, don't wants and what I have to obring to a corp, that sounds like a good basic premise to work on, but it obviously isn't working for me. But just having a bit of difficulty tthinking outside the box on this.
Thanks
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 09:47:19 -
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Options: -Keep trying to find the perfect corp. -Accept disappointment as inevitable. -Try to influence corp to match your needs, or aim to take it over. -Start a corp yourself and build it to match your needs. -Fk it all and fly solo.
All of them are hard choices.
I think what would work best for you, is write up a list of what you, yourself, want. This will help you narrow down what corp or option best serves your interests.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:03:55 -
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HI Salvos, thanks for replying. Some interesting options there. I've thought about having my own corp that others join (I have had my own corp that I used just to keep all 6 of my toons together) but I dont think that is for me.
I think on my forum ad I have tried to define the parameters but outlining the things that i am looking for, perehaps I need to be more specific there, certainly something to look into.
You're right though, they are difficult choices :) |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:10:38 -
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EVE is all about what you want for yourself. Our motivations are what define EVE from a mere box of sand.
Once you figure out what you want (which is no small task), it is much easier to make that happen.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:45:29 -
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I agree in part. Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. The difficulty I am realising is actually finding that ingame with a group that you gel with AND they do all those things you like/need too.
Ill prob stay solo for a bit and bide my time, something may come along. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 10:56:24 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this.
Lay it out here.
What is it you decided you want?
Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you.
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lmmortalist
A-Clinic Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:09:55 -
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Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive. |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:24:05 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.
I like this concept, and it makes a lot of sense that if you find the right people then hopefully the rest will come along behind it. Of course once people join a corp then their are generally in their own chat channel (bar immediate local) but it is certainly something I will consider more, thanks. |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:25:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you.
I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment. |

Salvos Rhoska
2582
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Posted - 2017.03.28 11:51:06 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you. I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment.
Pfft. I do 99% of my posting on a tablet as a remote to my PC, whilst knocking back beers and smoking on my balcony.
Copy/paste the link or text :D
I wanna see what you decided as what you want!
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:25:15 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote: Deciding what you want to do is half the battle, I have done this. Lay it out here. What is it you decided you want? Everyone wants a motivated player in their corp that matches their own ends. Dont forget or underestimate that you are a very valuable asset and have high demand. Once you state what you want, and it matches theirs, they will fight each other to get you. I do have a recruitment post up under this toon, I am writing this out on a tablet so linking to it is a pain at the moment. Pfft. I do 99% of my posting on a tablet as a remote to my PC, whilst knocking back beers and smoking on my balcony. Copy/paste the link or text :D I wanna see what you decided as what you want!
Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home |

Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:53:08 -
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One method I've successfully used myself is, instead of finding a corp and then moving to their area, find a place to live first and then start interacting with the locals. (In my case this was usually in low sec, and interacting means shooting them and getting shot by them.) Talk to them, build up some contacts, perhaps fleet with them a few times, and if you enjoy this, ask to join them.... if they haven't invited you by then already.
Of course, this won't really work if you plan to join a null sec corp, and most high sec players won't respond well to my forms of interaction. |

Salvos Rhoska
2583
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Posted - 2017.03.28 12:55:53 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home
I believe you. Next time get an android tablet :D
I look forward to your reply. Im legit interested what you decided you want most.
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Kathern Aurilen
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:35:02 -
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i join a corp to hang with the people, not to be forced to do what I'm not comfortable or feel like doing or be someone's income source or standing army if I dont agree with it.
So I chitchat on local doing my little thing till I start to hang out with on local or direct chat. I liked hanging with the mining fleets in a kinda local ice field. When I was there 20 of us on local chatting away laughing and passing the time, if anyone was attacked all the support ships(even in different fleets and corps) would help out. Let a couple cats try cutting into a mining ship with 7 orcas remote repping it.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1327
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Posted - 2017.03.28 13:36:02 -
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Welcome to my world 
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
553
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:15:45 -
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My corp is cool, join my corp. Be one of us... One of us... ONE OF US!!!!!! j/k  |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:41:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:Lmao, I know you wont believe me but I wrote an entire reply and the old stupid ipad ate it. Ill do a response to thisbut Ill wait till later on my machine at home I believe you. Next time get an android tablet :D I look forward to your reply. Im legit interested what you decided you want most.
I shall do it tonight when I get home |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:41:52 -
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Kathern Aurilen wrote:i join a corp to hang with the people, not to be forced to do what I'm not comfortable or feel like doing or be someone's income source or standing army if I dont agree with it.
So I chitchat on local doing my little thing till I start to hang out with on local or direct chat. I liked hanging with the mining fleets in a kinda local ice field. When I was there 20 of us on local chatting away laughing and passing the time, if anyone was attacked all the support ships(even in different fleets and corps) would help out. Let a couple cats try cutting into a mining ship with 7 orcas remote repping it.
Is this what you do, or how you look to join a corp? |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:43:21 -
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Trevor Dalech wrote:One method I've successfully used myself is, instead of finding a corp and then moving to their area, find a place to live first and then start interacting with the locals. (In my case this was usually in low sec, and interacting means shooting them and getting shot by them.) Talk to them, build up some contacts, perhaps fleet with them a few times, and if you enjoy this, ask to join them.... if they haven't invited you by then already.
Of course, this won't really work if you plan to join a null sec corp, and most high sec players won't respond well to my forms of interaction.
I like this option, I may try it, but yeah not in null, well... Maybe NPC null... BTW, I used to be in your corp :) |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:44:11 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Welcome to my world 
Tell me about your world Lulu :) |
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 14:45:01 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:My corp is cool, join my corp. Be one of us... One of us... ONE OF US!!!!!! j/k 
For some reason I did actually laugh out loud to this. |

Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
153
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:03:47 -
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This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.
Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.
I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:17:38 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.
No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D
Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align. You are clearly intelligent. Idiots are far less predictable.
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.03.28 15:29:57 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D
:D
Quote:Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align. Message me. |

Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
397
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Posted - 2017.03.28 16:28:51 -
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I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.
"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"
Gets responses of.
"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us." "We are a High-sec mining corp" and "join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2017.03.28 16:33:45 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
You have it ass backwards.
Its not about what X corp wants. Its about what you want.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:30:38 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.
"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"
Gets responses of.
"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us." "We are a High-sec mining corp" and "join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.
edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example.
Most of the people that reply in the forums copy and paste a standard template, rarely do yu get a personal response, although saying that I did get a few on this last post I made |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:34:38 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.
Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.
I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.
i think what Trevor Dalech is a good idea, maybe not in WH but I may try that. People are sometimes paranoid becuase of the allowance of scamming and awoxing it is a little understandable, co-operation with a wary eye is sometimes needed. |

Keno Skir
1438
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:47:38 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.
^ This.
It's interesting to me how many people see EvE as a purely corporation / alliance based segregation system. In reality when you join a corp you get corp roles and a chatroom.. If you don't care about working as a mining director or hanger organiser it's really just a chatroom and that can be (and is) done without all the corp stuff.
I suggest joining peoples public chats, you will see many forum users have them as well as in people's bio's and even most corporations will have a public chat. Set yourself up a "social" chat window and just log into user made channels when you see one that sparks your interest. Once you find your friends in EvE you'll find corps are often more a tool for a job than something that singularly unifies you all.
One day i think you'll end up clicking with the right people and they will help you work out what banner you want to fly under 
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:47:42 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Bjorn Tyrson wrote:I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for. You have it ass backwards. Its not about what X corp wants. Its about what you want.
Salvos, I think yuo may have misread that I think that is what he is saying.
Anyway, back tot he answer I promised you.
OK. What I am looking for.
EUTZ, becuase I am in the UK so dont want to be a fill in orpart of a "up and coming EU presence" in a corp Good PI, as that is where I make most of my isk, or at least lwning POCO in high sec so I can set up factory planets upgraded ratting systems (if in null), or hitting l4 missions and escalations in high sec free from misogynistic, ignorant racists throwing slurs around... I actually feel embarrased when people spout off like this, swear and curse I am fine with, slurs etc I am not Dont want providence. I've lived there, some good guys in my previous corp there but... NRDS Dont want WH space becuase Ive lived there 3 times now and I just need a break from it. not a big long list of blues (for more PVP opportunities
This leaves either null sec or high sec
I see one of two potentials. I am not averse to a high sec corp that day trips for PVP and to WH and Null space, no weighing out 500isk m3 for JF services, as long as they had infrastructure (citadels etc) and POCOs that they owned so I can set up factory planets (for ISK making)
or Null sec, hopefully not too far from high sec, (a border system would be fantastic in an ideal world), a corp that had a reasonably priced, regular JF service, POCOs (again), doctrine ships on contract at a reasonable and fair markup. a place where you and one other could go off for a roam or a bunch of you could
I think thats most of it
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
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Posted - 2017.03.28 17:53:02 -
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Keno Skir wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.
So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive. ^ This. It's interesting to me how many people see EvE as a purely corporation / alliance based segregation system. In reality when you join a corp you get corp roles and a chatroom.. If you don't care about working as a mining director or hanger organiser it's really just a chatroom and that can be (and is) done without all the corp stuff. I suggest joining peoples public chats, you will see many forum users have them as well as in people's bio's and even most corporations will have a public chat. Set yourself up a "social" chat window and just log into user made channels when you see one that sparks your interest. Once you find your friends in EvE you'll find corps are often more a tool for a job than something that singularly unifies you all. One day i think you'll end up clicking with the right people and they will help you work out what banner you want to fly under 
from what I can see, user made channels are not just listed, they have to be known in order to enter
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
636
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Posted - 2017.03.28 18:00:50 -
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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2017.03.28 18:41:10 -
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Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.
Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with any character. Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on 2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.
Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
39
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Posted - 2017.03.28 18:50:42 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.
Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with any character. Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on 2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.
Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.
Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan. |

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2017.03.28 18:53:38 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote:Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.
Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with any character. Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on 2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.
Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether. Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan.
Well, It was kinda directed for 'Beast of Revelations'
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Lara Agnon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2017.03.28 19:01:23 -
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I do feel the same. It is rather difficult to find a corp. I thought several times I did find it but then.... two disbanded shortly after I joined (reason for corps to advertise they are recruiting is they can't sustain the corp any more), one left the alliance and decided to do something completely different....
Then most of them want your full api key... wtf? I am ok with sharing some stuff but not sharing my life with all of them. One corp didn't accept me because I didn't give them the full api key of my wife's account..... |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
39
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Posted - 2017.03.28 20:29:31 -
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Lara Agnon wrote:I do feel the same. It is rather difficult to find a corp. I thought several times I did find it but then.... two disbanded shortly after I joined (reason for corps to advertise they are recruiting is they can't sustain the corp any more), one left the alliance and decided to do something completely different....
Then most of them want your full api key... wtf? I am ok with sharing some stuff but not sharing my life with all of them. One corp didn't accept me because I didn't give them the full api key of my wife's account.....
yeah full API is pretty standard, I have always done it in the past but now I know everything that can be seen I think I will be more reluctant in the future. |

Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
154
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Posted - 2017.03.28 20:37:53 -
[38] - Quote
Trasch Taranogas wrote:Yes. Im super paranoid.
Yes, we chatted, and I offered to help you. But actually I was referring to someone else in my post. A high-skilled old-timer type who frequently posts on the forums.
Actually, it has been a whole series of people.
I'm not here to point the finger at anyone. It is what it is. |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
39
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Posted - 2017.03.28 20:40:48 -
[39] - Quote
Trasch Taranogas wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote:Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.
Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with any character. Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on 2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.
Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether. Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan. Well, It was kinda directed for 'Beast of Revelations'
Ah gotcha :) |

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2017.03.28 20:57:30 -
[40] - Quote
Beast of Revelations wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote:Yes. Im super paranoid. Yes, we chatted, and I offered to help you. But actually I was referring to someone else in my post. A high-skilled old-timer type who frequently posts on the forums. Actually, it has been a whole series of people. I'm not here to point the finger at anyone. It is what it is.
Its cool, not even sure if it was your alt. Mostly you feel intimidated to approach players who has been in this game for a long time. You feel you have nothing to offer except failure. Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody wanna invest time and ISK in me?"
Live or die, YOUR choice.
~Eve
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
40
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Posted - 2017.03.28 21:06:32 -
[41] - Quote
Some people like to play the game a different way, sure there are scammers etc oiut there and youve no idea whom they may be really, but sometimes you take a calculated punt and it works out (or not) |

Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
154
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Posted - 2017.03.28 22:07:37 -
[42] - Quote
Trasch Taranogas wrote: You feel you have nothing to offer except failure. Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody wanna invest time and ISK in me?"
Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out.
Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station. |

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2017.03.28 22:18:26 -
[43] - Quote
Beast of Revelations wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote: You feel you have nothing to offer except failure. Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody wanna invest time and ISK in me?"
Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out. Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station.
Nowadays I feel at home in WH and null exploring. I have been ganked and lost and frustrated. Still keep coming for more, just dropped a main character though.
Its the feeling of "you are playing Eve wrong" that bothers me. Everybody is talking about how important it is to be in a corp.
Someday I will probably join some cool group as soon as I start feeling secure fighting in PvP. Need to gather some ISK for multiple ships and fittings. Had a really bad streak in exploring, got in over my head.
Live or die, YOUR choice.
~Eve
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
155
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Posted - 2017.03.29 01:56:03 -
[44] - Quote
Trasch Taranogas wrote:Still keep coming for more, just dropped a main character though. Why drop a main character? You'll have to spend months skilling a new one.
Quote:Its the feeling of "you are playing Eve wrong" that bothers me. Everybody is talking about how important it is to be in a corp.
Well you aren't playing it wrong by any means if you are having fun and enjoying yourself. If you enjoy playing solo, that's how you should play. There is no 'right' or 'wrong' way to play - if I implied that with what I said, I didn't mean to. My point was simply, don't shy away from interacting with people because you are paranoid. But if you just don't want to interact with people - that is perfectly within your charter, purview, mandate, and right. Just do whatever works for you and whatever you enjoy doing. |

Khazuk Tharanogas
Avem General Industrials
4
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Posted - 2017.03.29 07:27:26 -
[45] - Quote
I have nothing to add to what has already been posted. Other that there is a reason I started leading my self over joining people their corp.
I wish you best of luck finding a suitable playstyle. Be it solo or in a corp.
Avem General Industrials is recruiting!
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Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
40
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Posted - 2017.03.29 07:47:05 -
[46] - Quote
Beast of Revelations wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote: You feel you have nothing to offer except failure. Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody wanna invest time and ISK in me?"
Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out. Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station.
I'm about to be back in NPC corps as of tonight when I get home, my main is currently down doing the Minmatar Epic Arc but will be doing th last mission tonight and heading back to the Citadel where all his stuff is, I'd be happy to link up and do something in a few days if you want? |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
40
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Posted - 2017.03.29 07:50:16 -
[47] - Quote
Khazuk Tharanogas wrote:I have nothing to add to what has already been posted. Other that there is a reason I started leading my self over joining people their corp.
I wish you best of luck finding a suitable playstyle. Be it solo or in a corp.
It maybe the way to go for me too, once I drop corp with this and my other 5 characters this evening ill probably pull them all into a personal corp (if for nothing else other than not paying 11% to an NPC corp) and Ill take it frorm there, I may even advertise for additional people who want to maybe be under a corp banner for tax purposes but want to do their own thing, not 100% on that though, dont know what kind of commitment it will take from me. |

Nicola Romanoff
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
42
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Posted - 2017.03.31 09:11:43 -
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I have decided what I am going to do, for the immediate future anyway, I have created my own corp and will base myself in high sec and use WHs to search out low, null and other WH systems in order to PVP. Ill do this solo or fleet up with people, maybe even NPSI fleets.
My only concern is ISK making, I am used to 34 planets worth of PI and WH sleeper sites and whilst I could do the sleeper sites still if I find an appropriate WH but the PI which was over 1b a month to me has gone, level 4 missions are not going to make up that shortfall. I suppose it is worth asking if there are any people here that have a corp with high sec poco's. And if so would they be willing to set my corp blue so I can utilize planets as factory planets... I know that is a bit cheeky to ask, but sometimes it's the questions you dont ask that make the difference.
Apart from that ill use the corp to keep all my toons together. I may even let people join the corp as an umbrella for people to chat etc, people that want a corp but not one that works as 99% of the corps out there.
I think ill see how it goes like this, is the ISK making to sustain the PVP becomes an issue ill think of alternative options. Industry is something ive done before and I dont think that is my bag really, plus I extracted a lot of the industrial skills. |

Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
57
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Posted - 2017.04.07 11:24:50 -
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I am about a week in now. Having left my old corp i had one of my toons create a corp and have joined it. At the moment i tend to be online most nights and asi suspected isk making isnt that great, i tried distribution missions but that doesnt pay much in isk or LP. I will give level 4 missions a go but i know that they are not that good isk wise, PI is not an option for me and the tax on poco in high sec is ridiculous. I miss chat and banter over comms too.
I guess i am just settling into this way of life so it is going to take some getting used to a bit like leaving a relationship and not quite realised that you can do whatever you want. I do plan on joining some npsi fleets but ill be honest and say that i am finding it a little boring and with the isk income not being that great i cannot see me being able to plex any accounts |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2781
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Posted - 2017.04.08 11:57:20 -
[50] - Quote
Perhaps you might find something useful in this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331341&find=unread
EvE security zones in pictures
EvE quick reference pdf
EvE links
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Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
57
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Posted - 2017.04.08 12:01:09 -
[51] - Quote
Thanks, ill have a read |

Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
58
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Posted - 2017.04.10 07:50:19 -
[52] - Quote
I have sstill been struggling with the solo aspect, so much so i read through all the previous replies to remind myself of what people said and the advice they gave. There was mention of peoples public channels which seems like a good way to connect to people. I have been using the help channel a little to just try and be social and help out peeps where I can.
So (not sure if the people who replied so far in this thread would still be getting notifications) what are your public channels and/or what public channels do you recommend? |

Salvos Rhoska
2697
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Posted - 2017.04.10 12:55:12 -
[53] - Quote
What are you looking for in a channel?
Banter, socialising, or something more specific?
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Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
58
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:03:24 -
[54] - Quote
When im online it would be good to be able to just chat to people that are not just in local, so I think from a more socialising point of view. Didnt really think about there being specific types of chat channel, makes sense though I suppose. |

Jenn aSide
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
15566
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:04:45 -
[55] - Quote
Nicola Romanoff wrote:And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.
It always seems to be the same m.o
1. You hunt for a corp on eve forums or reddit, and/or you post an advert with you spiel on the same. 2. You get contacted by peoples 3. You speak to those people and maybe make a decision on the back of that 4. You join, move all your stuff to their system. 5. A few weeks or months later something isnt right and you start again. The something not right could be anything, it could either be the corp was not as advertised, less active that you would like, rip off JF service if you're in null that winds you up, or the corp goes in a direction that you don't want to go in and whilst you like the people, you dont want go in that direction and/or any other reason.
This is not sustainable and I don't want to keep on jumping corps. Ive alradyplaced an advert up but then thought about writing here to see if anyone can offer suggestions on finding that ideal corp without having to take a punt on the forums/reddit.
The forum post always tend to be the same, a list of wants, don't wants and what I have to obring to a corp, that sounds like a good basic premise to work on, but it obviously isn't working for me. But just having a bit of difficulty tthinking outside the box on this.
Thanks
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Nothing is permanent in EVE. People come and go, corps and alliances come and go. You move, move and move some more, especially if you are a null sec player.
The key is to not get used to anything for very long. And to pack lightly. I have at times sold everything I own at firesale prices and moved to the other side of New Eden with just a ceptor and the ISK in my wallet.
Some people never learn these lessons and end up very frustrated with tons of ships and other crap that they now need to move because something changed. Right now I have 4 accounts and 3 capital ships (FAX, Carrier, Dread), most of my characters on those accounts can do cynos. EVERYTHING I own will fit into those 3 capital ships and I can be gone from the space I live in in under 30 minutes.
Robert De Niro actually says it faster than I can.
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Salvos Rhoska
2698
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
Nicola Romanoff wrote:When im online it would be good to be able to just chat to people that are not just in local, so I think from a more socialising point of view. Didnt really think about there being specific types of chat channel, makes sense though I suppose.
As a grill you will probably be uncomfortably welcome in any chat/voice comm.
Join a bunch of channels, see how it goes, and stick with those that work for you.
PvE v PvP
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
173
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Posted - 2017.04.10 20:44:40 -
[57] - Quote
Nicola Romanoff wrote:And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.
Yep...
Esp. activity seems to be a problem with smaller corps. They have 20+ members and only 2 are active when u join.
Anyways, any laid back corps active around Dodixie? Send me an evemail  |

Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
146
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:23:39 -
[58] - Quote
If you think looking for a corp is hard, recruiting is even harder.
And maintaining a corp or being an effective leader is harder still.
I think is it hardest for smaller corps. The reality is 25% of the corp being active is pretty standard for a corp that is not dead or hibernating. Meaning 25% of them may log on once a week. So a corp of 20 people (not counting alts) will mean 5 people are actually active once a week...if they try to form an operation...well it is optimistic that all FIVE of those players will be on at the same time to make the op.
I am happy to say that over 50% of my corp of 20 is active, it has been reborn at least 3 times, and we are FINALLY starting to consistently get 6-man ops again. This is a much higher percentage than usual.
Perhaps only one in three of the active people in my corp did I find from a recruitment ad. All the others are friends or friends of friends that know me or others.
I think the biggest failure to most corps is a misjudgement in commitment by the leader(s). I have been guilty of this myself. Usually it is because they are obsessive about the corp for several months and then promptly burn out! OR one thing goes wrong and they choke and burn out! Often for several months.
OR they expect people to do things they are not going to do, EVER - in which case they are leading the 'wrong' corp, or they are just arrogant asses, never willing to take responsibility for the over-all outcome.
I think what I am finding is a very gradual, incremental approach to both finding a corp and getting recruits into your corp the best way to go. Especially if you have ANY kind of standards. You have time to train and/or get close to your corpmates, learn what they can do.
These things they take a lot of time, consistency, and calm persistence. It may take a while to find your pack, but be patient and keep trying, find one you will stay with, and they will stay with you.
Interstellar Booty Hunters - Pirate Small Gang PvP Forever!
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Nicola Romanoff
Lineark
72
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:20:40 -
[59] - Quote
Revisiting this.
I ended up joining a corp i had been in some time back, they had ventured into wormholes and it seemed rude not to so I joined and moved in, set up 36 planets worth of PI then all of a sudden it was decided that we were stretched too thin (trying to be a high sec corp AND and a WH corp) and so the WH operation is in the throws of closing down. I moved all my stuff out back to high sec and I think I've been the only one online in about a week..
Whilst I am happy to do things on my own in game, I don't want to be the only one in corp. I like the chat and banter even if I am off alone exploring, hunting etc. I guess the search starts again though.
@ Maximillian Bonaparte I know recruiting is hard, I've done it for a another corp, not my bag and wont be doing that aspect of it again. |

Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:47:57 -
[60] - Quote
From what i read so far, make sure any corp you join is Asperger Syndrome friendly (I mean it in a good way). |
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Nicola Romanoff
Lineark
73
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Posted - 2017.05.14 08:53:34 -
[61] - Quote
How can that possibly be meant in a good way |

Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
107
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Posted - 2017.05.14 10:13:27 -
[62] - Quote
Poor soul. Lost in space, forever doomed to experience the cold... Brief moments of sunshine come and go, leaving an empty void.
I tend to make friends with other nabs (irl friends joining game or just randoms) in a starter area and we either join a "forming" alliance or form one ourselves. In 2 cases out of 4 the server died before our clan broke up, 2 are still ongoing. I know 4 is small sample size but so far 100% success. Writing this I realized it's super simple (form & go) but won't work for an experienced player like You, as sitting a month in tutorial zone and pretending not to know basics of the game is not an option.
Could it be that you expect too much and go "all in" too early? Are the corps super small (so small that if 2 ppl make a break suddenly there is no1 to play with) or so big individuals don't matter? imho both cases bad. How do you socialize? Find a role to fill. Create a web that will support your stay and at the same time make the corp more stable. It doesn't need to be a spreadsheet with dozens of connections (although it probably will be a google doc if your "web" is into industry). Results may vary.
Nicola Romanoff wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Welcome to my world  Tell me about your world Lulu :) giggity |

ugh zug
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2017.05.14 10:44:42 -
[63] - Quote
finding a place to belong to can be difficult. I've found that looking for people who share your short term and long term goals can be a good starting point. So what do you want to do in eve? industry? pvp? fly caps? WHs pvp/pve? incursions? faction warefare? whatever it is you just need to find a corp that can support this activity.
Eve encourages players to go inactive for months or even a year at a time it's all part of it's scam err charm. corporations that are properly managed wont have issues with many people going inactive to play other games and letting their characters train for that new ship etc. that being said corporations are organizations of people thus will change over time and also have their own problems. if it's dead it's dead, move on. Also if you as a member of a dwindling corp are unwilling to step up where your corp needs you because you are focused on you, why bother being in one? just make your own and play the game like a single player space sim.
there are truly very few good highsec corps that are not just one man show or tax/buyback scam corp. WH space is a little bit better because there are many assets on the line and isk split unfairly will result in many people leaving or awoxing members. nullsec organizations are the best corps in the game but they are not all made the same and are often very selective for good reason. Obviously if only one guy is doing your entire alliances jf service then he's going to charge whatever he wants. if only one person is importing things and selling on the market/contracts then you're going to be price gouged a considerable amount. if only one guy is building your super capitals then he can charge what ever he wants. if your alliance lives in fear of your own space and cannot rat/mine because membership is unwilling to fight you're obviously in the wrong corp.
You and only you, are able to press the button to join a corp... you also hold a responsibility to meet the corps standards and a responsibility to yourself to research the corps conditions and environment. Don't complain that you cant find a corp that you like. Take responsibility for your own decision and stop asking others to do it for you.
Want me to shut up?
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
483
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Posted - 2017.05.15 14:05:42 -
[64] - Quote
In 6 years of playing Eve, I've been in all of 3 player created corps (not counting a one man corp I made briefly). I don't see how people can have 20 corps in 2 years.
My first corp was a random invite in high sec and went exactly as you would expect. Short and pointless.
But after that I got to know some low sec pirates and was asked to apply based on more than a random application. Changed Eve for me and probably the only reason I am still playing was finding that great group of dudes.
When I wanted to move on in fleet content I went to Sov. Based solely on an advert looking for cloaky warfare specialists I contacted my current corp. Talked with them for a couple weeks before applying.
1) I had realistic expectations going in 2) did due diligence before applying 3) tried to make myself useful right away doing stuff like lighting cynos or scouting gates 4) avoided the occasional flares of drama 5) Instead of always looking at a corp as "I could do better" instead I looked at it like "how can I make this corp better?"
Shockingly, I managed to find homes with awesome people without having to filter thru a dozen corps first.
Home, is what you make of it.
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
622
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Posted - 2017.05.15 16:28:51 -
[65] - Quote
I hear OP, many corps out there are unstable because of leadership (lack of), but OP should also be making a list of required (desired) , functions/features from a corp.
You mentioned JF service that is reasonable, this can get a little tricky, what is reasonable JF and the service they provide cost isk and risk to operate, lose a JF and your taking billions in loss.
So your options are move it yourself or live in a null corp that borders high sec, expecting services without costs are unreasonable when compared with the riches that are in null, also think of the value you add, are you just farming and just trying to get profits while not doing much except being a number and a bullet sponge, what can you do for the corp that adds real value to it, being a number or a sponge isn't really much value.
As far as active, you need to find a big enough corp that the numbers are there and get involved by being involved , if the corp is in an alliance even better.
My suggested action is to sit down and write a list of wants and what you add, if the math isn't there you'll know it's probably not a good fit. |
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