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Acronikosvz	Posted - 2007.05.04 11:56:00 - [1] This will most probably marked down for whining but who cares with all the whines going on laterly ... But I was wondering from my point of view and my perspective is that if EvE is really worth the 8 pounds which I could be spending on WoW (lol, atleast they can have 5 people on one solar system) Im not generally whining or making a statement that it IS NOT worth it, just wondering on you thoughts, what really of gaming experience am I getting for my money, hell I can play bf2142 no fee's and have better pvp experience on that, even though that EvE has far potential but I see no real advance on the lag and all these silly issues with captial ships, nerfing, lag, new games for walking on stations and dancing with exotic dancers in you're cargo bay saying "woop woop, pop me as I enter a stargate and get popped 5 seconds after lag gives in"... So what are you thoughts and the worth it side of it... Im sure I do think its worth it, but not at this moment in time. -
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:02:00 - [2] yes its worth it, if it was not worth it, we would not be here to reply now would we? "no i dont think its worth it, i just pay my money just so i can use the froums :S" i think not :)
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:03:00 - [3] eVe is definitely worth every cent in my bank. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Acronikosvz	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:07:00 - [4] but what we are paying, or we receiving a sufficent amount of gameplay over the payment, I expect more from a sub. game than this, not its mass of its not good type of quality, but the issues of bugs, nerfing so on so forth... you'd think that CCP should really look more at the communty's suggestions, instead of going solo and hoping to ignore and get this next damn game when more people would of left by the time it would of been realesed and more people come in, if they do ofc... I would be embarrased to tell my friends... but I still think its worth it, but as I said before, not at this very moment. -
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:07:00 - [5] if you have to ask the question then eve probably isnt for you It's been worth it for me for over three years now Celtic Anarchy is recruiting
Acronikosvz	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:09:00 - [6] bangs head on keyboard I said already like more times than there is capital ships, I think its worth it, all the way, but to the right standard... -
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:09:00 - [7] When in doubt leave, it's just a game. You'll come back anyway. ____ Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Acronikosvz This will most probably marked down for whining but who cares with all the whines going on laterly ... But I was wondering from my point of view and my perspective is that if EvE is really worth the 8 pounds which I could be spending on WoW (lol, atleast they can have 5 people on one solar system) Are you serious? That's like saying "is my Honda worth 10,000 dollars? I could just as well use the money to buy a Pinto!" --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Acronikosvz bangs head on keyboard I said already like more times than there is capital ships, I think its worth it, all the way, but to the right standard... Actually, I think eVe is worth at least 25 green bucks a month because only working class people can pay to play the game. Moreover a community of working class people might breathe a new air for the entire community because they can struck intelligent conversations. Conversations that are beneficial for eVe. My opinion but nobody has to agree with me. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:19:00 - [10] Ermmm yes and no. I think the price of items compared on the effort and time needed to make enough money is totally unbalanced which is very annoying If your a pvp character and say fly battleships or battlecruisers with t2 mods that costs fortune, if you lose it then you lose alot of cash pretty quick, do that everyday then you quickly lose alot of cash with not enough time to make that back even if your in 0.0, so you end up with your frig again! and no money to get decent rats only to start back from the bottom again. losing skill points when forgetting to upgrade your clone is a major bug bear of mine, yeah fine penalise if you need to but losing 15 days training for forgetting to buy a new clone is ridiculous and almost made me leave the game. Ive paid for that training so why should i have it taken away! Eve doesnt even have a decent warning to say you havent upgraded. However I do like huge mod/ships base and the fights you can have. Space environments and ships need to be brought up to date, getting a bit old IMO. I do believe Eve does have a lot of balancing to do and i get seriously frustrated, but its the first thing i load up when i get home! And yes I like WoW too, perhaps I may try LOTR for a change
TheDeceit Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Zaphod Jones if you have to ask the question then eve probably isnt for you It's been worth it for me for over three years now Actually I thought that question when I first started, and I even unsubbed for like 3 months. Out of nowhere I had the uncontrollable urge to resub again, though. --------
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:24:00 - [12] Eve is as worth it now as it ever was and ever will be. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Acronikosvz This will most probably marked down for whining but who cares with all the whines going on laterly ... But I was wondering from my point of view and my perspective is that if EvE is really worth the 8 pounds which I could be spending on WoW (lol, atleast they can have 5 people on one solar system) Honestly? I can't answer for you. Because, as you yourself say "from MY point of view". I can only answer for myself. And my answer to myself is a clear YES! But then, I hate WoW too.. Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:27:00 - [14] Edited by: DarkFenix on 04/05/2007 12:24:20 Yes, Eve is worth it. It's been worth it for all of the 3 years I've played it. Most of the issues people complain about really are a load of crap. Lag? Find me an MMO that doesn't. Nerfs? Meh, people just whining about their favourite overpowered ship getting brought in line. Bugs? There really aren't any game crippling bugs, just a few rather annoying ones that aren't that bad. New content related whines? Well, some people find a way to moan about everything. The only legit concern from my (ie. a pvper) perspective is the whole blob wars, cap ships and pos warfare thing. Cap ships are relatively new and need something of an overhaul (meh, battleships have been in since 2003 and they frequently need rebalancing). I haven't been keeping up to date on news and I know that pos wars is being sorted out so that you don't need a 50 cap blob to compete. As for blob wars, I'm sure CCP are doing something about that, if only because I'm sure they don't enjoy the constant hardware problems caused by huge fleet battles (or should I say slideshows).
Drizit Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:40:00 - [15] This question has entered my head many times but 2 years down the line and I am still playing. Now with 3 accounts. Just concentrate on the negatives and no game is worth it. Eve = Nerfs and lag. You get new content as it is released automatically uploaded to your client FOC. WOW = Nerfs and lag as well. You have to go out to the local game store and buy new content on CD/DVD each time. On average, Eve has by far the best support and considerably more intelligent players than WOW. This is done by weeding out most of the gung-ho kiddies by making it impossible to grind your way to level 20 in a couple of day just because they can play all day every day. Eve uses time based skills which levels the playing field, no matter if you play 1 hour a day or 23 hours a day, you won't skill up any faster. Yes, I'd say on balance that it worth it when you consider the positive sides as well as the negatives. --
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:40:00 - [16] The last game I paid for was Starcraft , a one time expense too. There's a reason I subscribed for a year of Eve without a second thought.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:41:00 - [17] Edited by: Hasak Rain on 04/05/2007 12:40:05 Every MMO has nerfs and bugs in them. I love how you are whining about those like it is exclusively an EvE problem. If you want to complain about something, complain about how this game only has three races instead of four. Because Amarr doesn't count and CCP continues to drag it's heels fixing it or giving us any feedback on it. I will agree that the pvp is vastly overrated as well. I keep hearing how this is the "big bad hardcore pvp game" but it really isn't unless your idea of being tough is hiding behind a Titan or camping a gate with a bubble or even a station with 20 other "tough guys" to gank much lesser numbers. Alliance/0.0 pvp is even worse because it is boring. Wait several hours at a gate knowing the enemy is in the next system but nobody wants to move.......yepper.....fun stuff. Other than those two issues, I am pretty happy with this game though.
Valan	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas If your a pvp character and say fly battleships or battlecruisers with t2 mods that costs fortune, if you lose it then you lose alot of cash pretty quick, do that everyday then you quickly lose alot of cash with not enough time to make that back even if your in 0.0, so you end up with your frig again! and no money to get decent rats only to start back from the bottom again. losing skill points when forgetting to upgrade your clone is a major bug bear of mine, yeah fine penalise if you need to but losing 15 days training for forgetting to buy a new clone is ridiculous and almost made me leave the game. Ive paid for that training so why should i have it taken away! Eve doesnt even have a decent warning to say you havent upgraded. You're joking right. It's easy to make ISK now than ever and prices are rock bottom. You fly what you can afford to lose. This game can't get any easier. As far as almost quitting the game because you forgot to buy a clone, it was your own damn fault. Darwin's theory of evolution should be rigorously applied in all aspects of EVE. If you're dumb you lose. If you make the same mistake twice in any aspect of your life then do the world and throw yourself out of a window. I'm sick of this game being constantly simplified to attract the masses. I understand why CCP do it, they need money, but if it goes any further the attraction of the whole game will be lost. EVE is disappearing down the plug hole due to the 'OMG its too hard whiners'. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Oculto Capote	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:46:00 - [19] Quote: Eve = Nerfs and lag. You get new content as it is released automatically uploaded to your client FOC. WOW = Nerfs and lag as well. You have to go out to the local game store and buy new content on CD/DVD each time. On average, Eve has by far the best support and considerably more intelligent players than WOW. Oh stop! WoW has 6 million players eve has bloody 100k or so its ridiculous to even compare. and im sick to death of childish eve players going on about WoW.. Let it go!! its not even the same type of game for crying out load. Every single day all you hear is dont like go to WoW, this WoW that WoW. And there are MANY kids playing eve, and if EvE had as many players has WoW you would probably get the same about of Kids playing.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Oculto Capote Quote: Eve = Nerfs and lag. You get new content as it is released automatically uploaded to your client FOC. WOW = Nerfs and lag as well. You have to go out to the local game store and buy new content on CD/DVD each time. On average, Eve has by far the best support and considerably more intelligent players than WOW. Oh stop! WoW has 6 million players eve has bloody 100k or so its ridiculous to even compare. and im sick to death of childish eve players going on about WoW.. Let it go!! its not even the same type of game for crying out load. Every single day all you hear is dont like go to WoW, this WoW that WoW. And there are MANY kids playing eve, and if EvE had as many players has WoW you would probably get the same about of Kids playing. You have a WoW account right? Go back to WoW........you NooooooooooooB!!!!
Oculto Capote	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:53:00 - [21] Edited by: Oculto Capote on 04/05/2007 12:50:29 hmmm....proves my post i guess this is exactly the childish comment i was expecting theres always one...thanks for not letting me down with this expectation
Valan	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 04/05/2007 12:40:05 Every MMO has nerfs and bugs in them. I love how you are whining about those like it is exclusively an EvE problem. If you want to complain about something, complain about how this game only has three races instead of four. Because Amarr doesn't count and CCP continues to drag it's heels fixing it or giving us any feedback on it. I will agree that the pvp is vastly overrated as well. I keep hearing how this is the "big bad hardcore pvp game" but it really isn't unless your idea of being tough is hiding behind a Titan or camping a gate with a bubble or even a station with 20 other "tough guys" to gank much lesser numbers. Alliance/0.0 pvp is even worse because it is boring. Wait several hours at a gate knowing the enemy is in the next system but nobody wants to move.......yepper.....fun stuff. Other than those two issues, I am pretty happy with this game though. Wouldn't worry too much, eventually Amarr will be boosted then someone else will get the short stick. ..and you seem to be in the wrong alliance for your playstyle. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 12:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Oculto Capote this is exactly the childish comment i was expecting I was joking but I can now see that you must be having real life issues or are just an idiot.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Valan Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 04/05/2007 12:40:05 Every MMO has nerfs and bugs in them. I love how you are whining about those like it is exclusively an EvE problem. If you want to complain about something, complain about how this game only has three races instead of four. Because Amarr doesn't count and CCP continues to drag it's heels fixing it or giving us any feedback on it. I will agree that the pvp is vastly overrated as well. I keep hearing how this is the "big bad hardcore pvp game" but it really isn't unless your idea of being tough is hiding behind a Titan or camping a gate with a bubble or even a station with 20 other "tough guys" to gank much lesser numbers. Alliance/0.0 pvp is even worse because it is boring. Wait several hours at a gate knowing the enemy is in the next system but nobody wants to move.......yepper.....fun stuff. Other than those two issues, I am pretty happy with this game though. Wouldn't worry too much, eventually Amarr will be boosted then someone else will get the short stick. ..and you seem to be in the wrong alliance for your playstyle. To be honest with you, I am in an Empire alliance now but I used to be in a rather large 0.0 alliance at one time so I have seen both sides of the fence. It seemed like 0.0 was more like a full time job. On one op, I had to wait six RL hours in a blob "guarding" a gate while our alliance tore down some enemy stations. Maybe it wasn't fun because I got the "crappy job" but I just couldn't see myself spending that much time sitting there again. This is a game after all. I do admit that 0.0 is generally more exciting and fun though. I just didn't like the big alliance lifestyle.
Valan	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Hasak Rain Originally by: Valan Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 04/05/2007 12:40:05 Every MMO has nerfs and bugs in them. I love how you are whining about those like it is exclusively an EvE problem. If you want to complain about something, complain about how this game only has three races instead of four. Because Amarr doesn't count and CCP continues to drag it's heels fixing it or giving us any feedback on it. I will agree that the pvp is vastly overrated as well. I keep hearing how this is the "big bad hardcore pvp game" but it really isn't unless your idea of being tough is hiding behind a Titan or camping a gate with a bubble or even a station with 20 other "tough guys" to gank much lesser numbers. Alliance/0.0 pvp is even worse because it is boring. Wait several hours at a gate knowing the enemy is in the next system but nobody wants to move.......yepper.....fun stuff. Other than those two issues, I am pretty happy with this game though. Wouldn't worry too much, eventually Amarr will be boosted then someone else will get the short stick. ..and you seem to be in the wrong alliance for your playstyle. To be honest with you, I am in an Empire alliance now but I used to be in a rather large 0.0 alliance at one time so I have seen both sides of the fence. It seemed like 0.0 was more like a full time job. On one op, I had to wait six RL hours in a blob "guarding" a gate while our alliance tore down some enemy stations. Maybe it wasn't fun because I got the "crappy job" but I just couldn't see myself spending that much time sitting there again. This is a game after all. I do admit that 0.0 is generally more exciting and fun though. I just didn't like the big alliance lifestyle. I've only ever been in smaller alliances. Occasionally they blob but most of the time its guerilla raiding. It's hard to leave mates but at the end of the day you're paying for the game you have to be doing what you like. I'm lucky I'm in a small like minded group. This may seem off topic but it isn't. This game as any other isn't worth it, if you aren't enjoying it. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Barbaro55a Caldari Os Lobos Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:22:00 - [26] I dont play WOW, never have, prob never will. If people want to play it, fine, up to them, freedom of choice and all. But as someone said above me, don't compare the two, not until you can fly around wow in a titan with a cargo hold full of Quaff. I'm sure WoW is a good game, other wise it wouldn't be so popular, but Eve is the game for me, and the ú10 a month i pay, it keeps me out of the pub, and gives me something to do at work. .......................................... We come in Peace, FIRE AT WILL---Blog
Zainan	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:23:00 - [27] Originally by: TheDeceit Originally by: Zaphod Jones if you have to ask the question then eve probably isnt for you It's been worth it for me for over three years now Actually I thought that question when I first started, and I even unsubbed for like 3 months. Out of nowhere I had the uncontrollable urge to resub again, though. Funny, I had a similar experience. I quite for a couple of months, played other games and all the while had a growing itch to hop back in my pod. After I re-upped I have not had a second thought.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:25:00 - [28] Originally by: Valan Edited by: Valan on 04/05/2007 13:06:33 Originally by: Hasak Rain Originally by: Valan Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 04/05/2007 12:40:05 Every MMO has nerfs and bugs in them. I love how you are whining about those like it is exclusively an EvE problem. If you want to complain about something, complain about how this game only has three races instead of four. Because Amarr doesn't count and CCP continues to drag it's heels fixing it or giving us any feedback on it. I will agree that the pvp is vastly overrated as well. I keep hearing how this is the "big bad hardcore pvp game" but it really isn't unless your idea of being tough is hiding behind a Titan or camping a gate with a bubble or even a station with 20 other "tough guys" to gank much lesser numbers. Alliance/0.0 pvp is even worse because it is boring. Wait several hours at a gate knowing the enemy is in the next system but nobody wants to move.......yepper.....fun stuff. Other than those two issues, I am pretty happy with this game though. Wouldn't worry too much, eventually Amarr will be boosted then someone else will get the short stick. ..and you seem to be in the wrong alliance for your playstyle. To be honest with you, I am in an Empire alliance now but I used to be in a rather large 0.0 alliance at one time so I have seen both sides of the fence. It seemed like 0.0 was more like a full time job. On one op, I had to wait six RL hours in a blob "guarding" a gate while our alliance tore down some enemy stations. Maybe it wasn't fun because I got the "crappy job" but I just couldn't see myself spending that much time sitting there again. This is a game after all. I do admit that 0.0 is generally more exciting and fun though. I just didn't like the big alliance lifestyle. I've only ever been in smaller alliances. Occasionally they blob but most of the time its guerilla raiding. It's hard to leave mates but at the end of the day you're paying for the game you have to be doing what you like. I'm lucky I'm in a small like minded group. This may seem off topic but it isn't. This game as any other isn't worth it, if you aren't enjoying it. As for the guy complaining about childish comments. You went on a rant about WoW, it was just bait. Hasak Rain's last post to which I have replied is perfectly valid and makes some good points. You reap what you sow. I agree it is tough to log off on them. It seemed like something was going on 24/7. I was constantly getting emails from the "higher ups" to go help so and so corp in (this) system with job a, b, c. ect. I didn't mind it but I felt guilty that I couldn't give them all the time they needed. It didn't help that I was a noob back then either. The Empire alliance I am in now is much more laid back but guess what? They are trying to move into 0.0 At least I know what I am doing better this time.
Darth Matt	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:44:00 - [29] worth it: Of course it is..the game has the abilty to cater to your moods. I just commented last night as I was training a new guy on level 4 missions, when a corpmate said" your running missions?" (im in a 0.0 alliance) I said "yup" i can mine, mission run, rat in 0.0, pvp, build , trade, work the market...anything...hell explore- run cosmos...whatever. **do i think the devs cheat- yes, do i think there are imbalances- yes, do I think CCP cares more than a little - No, do you care what I think - i doubt it, Should rats have a miniscule chance of dropping me a rattlesnake bpc - of course but they never will, should T2 items have a miniscule chance of dropping from rats- yup; but they never will :) should the Chimera be bigger than a badger MkII - yup , should exotic dancers be animated gifs? oh yeah! should alliances have stragleholds on deadspace complexes and the best officer drops - nope but the good things outweigh the bad by a landslide...the game is fun and very versatile, have fun and fly safe, and Join ALMPC if you want to be part of a good group of guys in the most Honorable alliance in the game! FREGE FTW
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.04 13:50:00 - [30] YES! Cos the player vs player content and player run world is second to none. Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.

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