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Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2017.04.06 23:17:59 -
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What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching.
EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
547
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Posted - 2017.04.06 23:21:32 -
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it was exactly as expected..
same ole chit different year same + more fanboys went up there to grab hold of some trinket ship.. just to come back in game to brag and show it off and say oh looky I went to fanfest hahaha you scrubs/poors/ twats...
honestly at this point..
Eve Vegas > Eve Fanfest..
USA!! USA!! USA!!
now what! |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1916
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Posted - 2017.04.06 23:50:49 -
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The reason it seemed 'boring' is because most of the really exciting stuff was already announced in dev blogs weeks ago. Refineries, already discussed to death. PLEX changes, been there. Blood Raider capitals, yup. And the few things we didn't know yet, like the Faction Citadels, were still pretty vague in their announcement.
I agree the keynote missed the 'wow' factor of previous years. If they're only releasing refineries in the winter I'd argue they could have saved that for the keynote tbh. The PLEX changes had to be announced early to do it right and the Blood Raider stuff was leaked early (among many other smaller stuff).
So yeah... you win some you lose some.
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Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.07 02:08:33 -
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Sausage fest is always boring because of sausage.
Best to make it part of an extended holiday where you attend the bits you want and then go sight seeing. Northern lights are always worth a watch, but then so is Hilmars silky beard |
oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2017.04.07 02:23:42 -
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At least they are holding off on player built Stargates.
That could have been a huge can of worms to open.
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Orin Solette
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.07 04:11:09 -
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Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. Yeah. I sure hope VR doesn't overshadow EVE Online development. |
Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2017.04.07 04:21:43 -
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Orin Solette wrote:Yeah. I sure hope VR doesn't overshadow EVE Online development.
I don't know how to tell you this...
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2017.04.07 04:33:03 -
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Fanfest is not a spectator sport, in my opinion. Much like fleet battles in game, it looks pretty dull from the outside looking in. The fun is when you are participating.
Having said that, I've seen better and I've seen worse as far as introducing new stuff to the game is concerned. But here's the thing. The game is what we, the players, make it. CCP just supplies the tools. And while the tools shown today might not have been "sexy" enough for the armchair content reviewers, they were certainly enough to make the upcoming months quite interesting from the view of what kind of content we can create with them.
I was pretty satisfied with the presentation.
Mr Epeen
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2017.04.07 04:39:18 -
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I think it needed moar "Cowbell".
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2017.04.07 06:48:17 -
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EVE Keynote, the TL;DR version |
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3907
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Posted - 2017.04.07 06:59:01 -
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Flamespar wrote:I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR! Still? Holy ****, not idea how you can be so blinded by an obviously hyped technology which has a very very limited potential and even a smaller market. I mean if you have only ONE product after 15 years, maybe produce for a market which has actual customers and not some high risk investment...
the Code ALWAYS wins
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
607
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:03:30 -
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Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching.
you at fanfest?
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Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1362
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:07:10 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. you at fanfest?
No.
But I was thinking about going this year. But didn't have the spare cash.
EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/
https://twitter.com/Flamespar
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marVLs
761
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:11:19 -
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Yup, almost no new content, no new PVE, incursions, mining, ring mining, WiS, only some long long promises (yeaaaah like structures that all supposed to be released in 2 years and we got 1 per year...) Sadly this may be the last fanfest for me. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
732
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:15:15 -
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I have to admit that there was nothing in there that "grabbed" me.
Mostly stuff that we already knew about and self congratulatory waffle.
As for the new trailer, I'm not convinced it'll attract any players.
Don't get me going about the permaband song either ;/
Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..."
" They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."
Welcome to EVE.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
607
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:16:31 -
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Flamespar wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. you at fanfest? No. But I was thinking about going this year. But didn't have the spare cash.
that's a shame, pity they don't stream the 95% of fanfest you'll never get to see and experience unless you 've been there.
boring,,, far from it.
it's all about the people you'll meet while there, the friendships you create with your enemies in game. the insight of listening to players giving their first hand account of many many many battles that have been fought. they funny moments, the laughs, the tears (EVE monument remembering the fallen) truly feeling part of something much bigger than just a game, it's very different when you're there.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
607
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:18:35 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:I have to admit that there was nothing in there that "grabbed" me.
Mostly stuff that we already knew about and self congratulatory waffle.
As for the new trailer, I'm not convinced it'll attract any players.
Don't get me going about the permaband song either ;/
so the new NPC content they spoke about but didn't go into detail on yet, isn't new or something you didnt't know about?
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
732
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:22:24 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:I have to admit that there was nothing in there that "grabbed" me.
Mostly stuff that we already knew about and self congratulatory waffle.
As for the new trailer, I'm not convinced it'll attract any players.
Don't get me going about the permaband song either ;/ so the new NPC content they spoke about but didn't go into detail on yet, isn't new or something you didnt't know about?
Try reading.."mostly"
Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..."
" They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."
Welcome to EVE.
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Exaido
Fire Over Light Those Infernal Machines
107
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:27:29 -
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I've never watched an Eve Fanfest Keynote before and I actually found it interesting. I was also impressed by how committed the developers are to building on an and improving the game. There are few games that have lasted this long and have continuous investment into the game development. Most other MMOs are expansion packs of more of the same. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1169
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:41:15 -
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Dead space "planet cracker" eve style looks ok.
Was hoping blood raiders would get their own models ...there is better Bhaalgorn out there there just is.
All in all this is 1st fanfest since streaming start that i did not watch opening and cut after new pod pilot video(i liked it) and not finishing keynotes.
will probably get around to it at some point.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
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Esnaelc Sin'led
Never Surrender. No Handlebars.
93
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:56:25 -
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Very disappointed as well with this year Keynote.
It was emplty, complete void, nothing. Only promesses and visions of what could be Eve in 5 or 10 years from now.
And this "conquering the universe" promesse that makes no sense on a game that has 14 years old, thousands of solar systems that has already been conquered and a dropping player base at worst, constant at best.
- Artificial Intelligence is very heavy to create and expensive, we won't have high quality AI anytime soon. - "Reinforced Sandbox", no sense, see above, unless you create more Solar System (player base dropping would be even more spread out), or wipe the entire 0.0 space (which will never happen because : whinings). - Enhanced graphics, or even rebuilding it entirely judging by the concept arts.
They could've made some awsome designs for the Blood Raider Capitals, just like the Cruor and Ashimuu, but, erm.. *lazy*, better work on "how to harvest more money from dropping player base" with skins, plex rebuild, free 2 play content, etc...
And this Stargate Player Made thinggy that is turning year after year into an exact copy of that Captain's Quarter door that will never be open-able...
And the top of the top was that "WE DID IT" thing about atmospheric travel through Valkyrie... I bet once NOVA is released in 5 years, they will tell us "WE DID IT" about that door, finnaly opening...
*sigh* |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
607
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:59:02 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:I have to admit that there was nothing in there that "grabbed" me.
Mostly stuff that we already knew about and self congratulatory waffle.
As for the new trailer, I'm not convinced it'll attract any players.
Don't get me going about the permaband song either ;/ so the new NPC content they spoke about but didn't go into detail on yet, isn't new or something you didnt't know about? Try reading.."mostly"
seen that, i guess you're not excited about it so. aren't all keynotes like this, some new stuff and updates on what ifs and maybes filled with lots of back slapping, it's a celebration for the devs also.
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Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1362
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Posted - 2017.04.07 07:59:22 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Flamespar wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. you at fanfest? No. But I was thinking about going this year. But didn't have the spare cash. that's a shame, pity they don't stream the 95% of fanfest you'll never get to see and experience unless you 've been there. boring,,, far from it. it's all about the people you'll meet while there, the friendships you create with your enemies in game. the insight of listening to players giving their first hand account of many many many battles that have been fought. they funny moments, the laughs, the tears (EVE monument remembering the fallen) truly feeling part of something much bigger than just a game, it's very different when you're there.
To be fair I can meet people at the local pub and it won't cost me as much
Though I do like that top shelf whiskey
Plex4Booze?
EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/
https://twitter.com/Flamespar
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Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
2445
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Posted - 2017.04.07 08:43:02 -
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If 3D glasses will be the future of gaming then the 90's Magic Eye books were the future of reading |
Obsidian Blacke
Oberon Confederation
2
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Posted - 2017.04.08 01:37:16 -
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Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching.
You probably should have read the dev blogs where they specifically stated they had decided to release information about upcoming changes before Fanfest as opposed to at Fanfest in order to get feedback from the community. |
Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
551
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Posted - 2017.04.08 02:10:59 -
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Eve is dying thread ?
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
612
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Posted - 2017.04.08 03:22:41 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:Eve is dying thread ? I think it's more like, "How long is Eve going to be in spit-shining mode?"
There was a time when Fanfest introduced new avenues of gameplay like Wormholes and Faction Warfare. Those must have been good times.
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
240
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Posted - 2017.04.08 05:52:11 -
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Its just a crony rich boy party for the one percent. If I could afford to fly to iceland on a whim every summer for a week I wouldn't be an alpha or playing on a dingy laptop with no internet (and a currently fried HDD so I can't even play anyway) I'd be able to afford a real PC and go out and do things in my free time not sit alone at home by myself grinding isk. If you're going to have a festival it should represent all players not the rich elites to go on some tour and be given free overpowered ships. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
240
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Posted - 2017.04.08 05:54:32 -
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Obsidian Blacke wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. You probably should have read the dev blogs where they specifically stated they had decided to release information about upcoming changes before Fanfest as opposed to at Fanfest in order to get feedback from the community. Lol since when does CCP listen to feedback? No one wants the plex vault yet it's still there. No one wanted a new aura voice but there she is. Well... muted for 99% of people but still there technically. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
608
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Posted - 2017.04.08 06:37:27 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Its just a crony rich boy party for the one percent. If I could afford to fly to iceland on a whim every summer for a week I wouldn't be an alpha or playing on a dingy laptop with no internet (and a currently fried HDD so I can't even play anyway) I'd be able to afford a real PC and go out and do things in my free time not sit alone at home by myself grinding isk. If you're going to have a festival it should represent all players not the rich elites to go on some tour and be given free overpowered ships.
nice attitude you're fecking wrong. I'm not rich, nor is a lot of guys i went to fanfest with rich, we decided to go and worked hard to be able to go. you don't need cash to have friends and be out doing things. home alone grinding isk, tell me,, are you in a cave also? a stone tower with dragons guarding you?
a fanfest that represents all players not just the rich elites,,,,,,,, how about you feck yourself sideways yea.
the 1%,,, lmfao,,,, you sad little shite.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.08 07:20:37 -
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What did you expect? Did it not excite you? They had all those things that have to excite you. Maybe you are not excited by it anymore.
Sweet Adamas wrote:Sausage fest is always boring because of sausage.
Sausage is fine.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2125
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Posted - 2017.04.08 10:04:30 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:... things that have to excite you. Maybe you are not excited by it anymore.... If they HAVE to but cannot then isn't it a failure? Or maybe these things have to excite some "generic player"? Then you might be right but in this case the problem is that authors of "these things" fail at targeting their auditory.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
243
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Posted - 2017.04.08 10:53:51 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:Its just a crony rich boy party for the one percent. If I could afford to fly to iceland on a whim every summer for a week I wouldn't be an alpha or playing on a dingy laptop with no internet (and a currently fried HDD so I can't even play anyway) I'd be able to afford a real PC and go out and do things in my free time not sit alone at home by myself grinding isk. If you're going to have a festival it should represent all players not the rich elites to go on some tour and be given free overpowered ships. nice attitude you're fecking wrong. I'm not rich, nor is a lot of guys i went to fanfest with rich, we decided to go and worked hard to be able to go. you don't need cash to have friends and be out doing things. home alone grinding isk, tell me,, are you in a cave also? a stone tower with dragons guarding you? a fanfest that represents all players not just the rich elites,,,,,,,, how about you feck yourself sideways yea. the 1%,,, lmfao,,,, you sad little shite. Well technically it's limestone and a wyrm since it doesn't have legs. Technically. |
Teros Hakomairos
science and trade institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2017.04.08 11:43:33 -
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It's FTP...the quality goes down the pit :-) |
Reiisha
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Posted - 2017.04.08 11:55:11 -
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Obsidian Blacke wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. You probably should have read the dev blogs where they specifically stated they had decided to release information about upcoming changes before Fanfest as opposed to at Fanfest in order to get feedback from the community.
The stuff they announced in those blogs was well-known beforehand as well.
The problem is that ever since Incarna CCP has been so, so afraid to do anything but release very small, incremental steps to already existing systems.
Back then they tried to make a new "jesus feature" for every patch, but now they completely stopped adding any new features, really. A balance needs to be found to keep the game moving forward *and* keep people excited over it.
Other games are being made in shorter time by smaller development teams, but with more features and more rapid development. Elite is a prime example of this. I wouldn't be surprised if that game will overtake EVE in many aspects very soon - Despite the apples vs oranges thing going on, you can see my point i think.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
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Ix Method
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
515
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Posted - 2017.04.08 12:15:48 -
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Orin Solette wrote:Yeah. I sure hope VR doesn't overshadow EVE Online development. Are you still living in 2011 or something?
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5716
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Posted - 2017.04.08 13:33:26 -
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Reiisha wrote:Obsidian Blacke wrote:Flamespar wrote:What's going on?
Fanfest used to be a really exciting event where you'd go learn more about where EVE is heading, discover exciting things to look forward to, and basically reaffirm your reasons why you love this game and are hear for the long term.
I just watched the "EVE" Keynote, which was basically Hilmar going VR! VR! VR!, followed by Devs more or less telling us what we already know about whats coming for EVE.
I got bored and stopped watching. You probably should have read the dev blogs where they specifically stated they had decided to release information about upcoming changes before Fanfest as opposed to at Fanfest in order to get feedback from the community. The stuff they announced in those blogs was well-known beforehand as well. The problem is that ever since Incarna CCP has been so, so afraid to do anything but release very small, incremental steps to already existing systems. Back then they tried to make a new "jesus feature" for every patch, but now they completely stopped adding any new features, really. A balance needs to be found to keep the game moving forward *and* keep people excited over it. Other games are being made in shorter time by smaller development teams, but with more features and more rapid development. Elite is a prime example of this. I wouldn't be surprised if that game will overtake EVE in many aspects very soon - Despite the apples vs oranges thing going on, you can see my point i think.
E:D is a better game for what used to be 62% fo EVE players. And since CCP just gave up that demographic, which in turn is a larger share of what's left of the MMO market, it is not strange that Elite and Frontier are larger than EVE and CCP ever have been. E:D for PCs earned more money on its first year (FY 2015) than CCP in 2013, their best year from revenue, and now E:D is playable on Xbox and soon will be available for PS4. All with the same ruthless efficiency with which whatever Frontier releases, it is complete, it is bugless and is enjoyable from day 1. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.08 13:55:07 -
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What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it?
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
553
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Posted - 2017.04.09 01:15:01 -
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i think we all expected far more detail as to their plans which we've been working towards for the past 3 yrs of the 3yr roadmap we've been on.. it seems as if they've pushed back from that roadmap although they've surely made strides to get to where we are now...
also ive noticed a small lacking detail when it comes to the refineries service module..
reactions....
what about alchemy?? seems he forgot about that..
ijs.. |
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt Dot Dot Dot
94
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Posted - 2017.04.09 02:18:29 -
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My lord what a bunch of sour, whiny grapes we have here.
Iv never been but I enjoy watching fanfest. Like others have said, its the times off camera that make it great. And the new updates that are coming should make things very interesting.
This is at best, another eve-is-dying thread. All the "points" you sourpuss's made sound like they're from someone who doesn't play eve and doesn't wanna play and didn't want that ship anyway.
If the game is so bad just quit. Biomass and quit. The rest of us will keep having fun.
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Sagara Mithril
ExDominion Evictus.
2
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Posted - 2017.04.09 03:52:26 -
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I think i have watched around 5 fan fest, the whole 3 days complete (each time). And i have to say that this one (2017) was the weakest for me, the keynote and opening was ok but the rest was boring really.
MAYBE, they were saving ideas and preparing for the next one that is the 15th year anniversary for EVE Online |
Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1366
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Posted - 2017.04.09 05:55:44 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it?
Yes I would
Make it so please.
EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/
https://twitter.com/Flamespar
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.09 06:23:02 -
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Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it? Yes I would Make it so please.
I knew it, its stealth "bring WIS" thread. \o/
New exploration suits will be coming. With sidearms. For first time. Looks like that is the best what they can do for for us now, beside Nova.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1367
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Posted - 2017.04.09 06:34:59 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it? Yes I would Make it so please. I knew it, its stealth "bring WIS" thread. \o/ New exploration suits will be coming. With sidearms, for first time. Looks like that is the best what they can do for us now, beside Nova.
I'll be playing Nova instead of EVE ...
I barely play EVE anymore
My disappointment in Fanfest is that it failed to give me any compelling reason to play EVE again.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Lost Obsession
1649
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Posted - 2017.04.09 06:53:29 -
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This years cinematic is a disappointment. We had representatives there, but lowsec "keynote" offered only the certainty that lowsec has no priority whatsoever for CCP. Everything is about 0.0. Still no corpse salvaging and no corpse dressing options via store. SAD
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Flamespar
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1367
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Posted - 2017.04.09 07:31:46 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:This years cinematic is a disappointment. We had representatives there, but lowsec "keynote" offered only the certainty that lowsec has no priority whatsoever for CCP. Everything is about 0.0. Still no corpse salvaging and no corpse dressing options via store. SAD
Well there is the Empire based expansion coming .. for which we have no details |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
5720
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Posted - 2017.04.09 07:57:42 -
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Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it? Yes I would Make it so please. I knew it, its stealth "bring WIS" thread. \o/ New exploration suits will be coming. With sidearms, for first time. Looks like that is the best what they can do for us now, beside Nova. I'll be playing Nova instead of EVE ... I barely play EVE anymore My disappointment in Fanfest is that it failed to give me any compelling reason to play EVE again.
I am one step ahead, since I would have feel distressed if Fanfest had given reasons to reconsider EVE. Thus the meh song I posted as TL;DR of the Keynote. Same old same old same old, just keep moving back the goalpost of "stargates" and "new space" to 2016 (no, 2018) (no, 2020) Whenitsdone (TM).
Care to remember the Fanfest trailer for 2014, THREE years ago?
Where's that gate? Where's that ominous menace? Where's the hint at FPS action? Where's anything of it after three years? |
Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
564
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Posted - 2017.04.09 08:06:11 -
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CCP has always been almost paralyzed by the complexity of their own game, and trying to avoid unintended consequences whereby the balance of power shifts too much. Wormholes worked as an expansions because they added so much, new space, new resources, and new items to build using those. CCP could be brave again and embrace the wishes to go to jove space, and do it properly in a new interesting way with its own resources.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1172
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Posted - 2017.04.09 08:19:39 -
[49] - Quote
Still on a drawing board.
Quote:Where's that ominous menace?
Every amarrian in skirt is ominous menace.
Quote:Where's the hint at FPS action?
In dust.
I still wait for another Apocrypha size expansion to happen and that video to become reality require multiple massive expansions plus two whole games sooooo.....nope.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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David Therman
CAStabouts
174
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Posted - 2017.04.09 11:47:20 -
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1: As mentioned previously, stuff that could've been shown at fanfest was leaked and/or released as dev blogs shortly beforehand, so that took away a certain element of surprise.
2: Speaking for myself and a few others at least, I've been interested to see what what was happening with Project Nova, the latest reincarnation of Dust. All that was said about that was the dev team being moved from China to Iceland... meh. Just meh.
3: They didn't let their imagination get carried away this time. I still remember this trailer from fanfest 2014, which seemed to herald the ability to build stargates... yet here we are, 3 years later and that idea is still (to my knowledge at least) just a murmur in the wind.
Point 3 being the most prominent in my mind because as people have said, fanfest is (or was) often used as a way of hyping up future ideas and/or updates that may or may not be feasible. I remember looking at a thread a few months ago asking about a video from a previous fanfest which detailed improved ship explosions. This was before they actually went ahead and did it, but the time between the showcase at that fanfest and when it got implemented was in the region of 5 years, give or take. In this day and age (read, self-gratified millennials, oh noes!), people have less patience, which is something CCP might've also considered.
While some people will get excited when something huge gets teased, others will just think "alright, but what does that leave us with in the coming weeks?" Something like a going-over of the T3C changes may not be the most thrilling thing to listen to at fanfest, but for a lot of players it's a big deal.
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
322
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Posted - 2017.04.09 12:04:15 -
[51] - Quote
Maybe next year have the following events:
Fanfest Boxing - Boxing events that would pit the best fighters from all of the alliances into a three day bracket of fighting for the pride of their alliance. The boxing events would be televised and the top seed teams would receive trophies and possibly cash prizes for sending their fighters.
The boxing would have to be sanctioned though but it would be the first time ever that a gaming corporation hosted boxing at an event.
CCP Yacht racing around Iceland during the summer months.
Of course there would be your very Mayberry kinda folk having pie making contests to get the whole thing started off with a boom. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
30900
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Posted - 2017.04.09 14:42:52 -
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Did someone noticed? They did not give us anniversary rewards this time! Not even Omega clones got anything.
I want a small space yacht with glass dome where you could see flower garden.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
555
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Posted - 2017.04.09 16:00:57 -
[53] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:What did you expect Flamespar, really. I remember you wanted walking in stations (WiS). Does it still linger in your mind? Would you be satisfied by it? Yes I would Make it so please. I knew it, its stealth "bring WIS" thread. \o/ New exploration suits will be coming. With sidearms, for first time. Looks like that is the best what they can do for us now, beside Nova. I'll be playing Nova instead of EVE ... I barely play EVE anymore My disappointment in Fanfest is that it failed to give me any compelling reason to play EVE again. I am one step ahead, since I would have feel distressed if Fanfest had given reasons to reconsider EVE. Thus the meh song I posted as TL;DR of the Keynote. Same old same old same old, just keep moving back the goalpost of "stargates" and "new space" to 2016 (no, 2018) (no, 2020) Whenitsdone (TM). Care to remember the Fanfest trailer for 2014, THREE years ago? Where's that gate? Where's that ominous menace? Where's the hint at FPS action? Where's anything of it after three years?
thats exactly my point about this years, they just basically delayed and push back their roadmap just due to the citadels themselves and all kinds of problems with terrible balancing.. honestly one would begin to consider just how much money one should spend on ccp.. i know the fanboys who went there will attempt to deflect the real issues by claiming "friendship is the best spaceship" kind of meta-gaming bullchit.. but the truth is.. this years fanfest was by far very weak and cheap.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5721
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Posted - 2017.04.09 18:08:11 -
[54] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote:Did someone noticed? They did not give us anniversary rewards this time! Not even Omega clones got anything.
I want a small space yacht with glass dome where you could see flower garden.
Now that you mention it...
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5721
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Posted - 2017.04.09 18:22:03 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Flamespar wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Flamespar wrote:
Yes I would
Make it so please.
I knew it, its stealth "bring WIS" thread. \o/ New exploration suits will be coming. With sidearms, for first time. Looks like that is the best what they can do for us now, beside Nova. I'll be playing Nova instead of EVE ... I barely play EVE anymore My disappointment in Fanfest is that it failed to give me any compelling reason to play EVE again. I am one step ahead, since I would have feel distressed if Fanfest had given reasons to reconsider EVE. Thus the meh song I posted as TL;DR of the Keynote. Same old same old same old, just keep moving back the goalpost of "stargates" and "new space" to 2016 (no, 2018) (no, 2020) Whenitsdone (TM). Care to remember the Fanfest trailer for 2014, THREE years ago? Where's that gate? Where's that ominous menace? Where's the hint at FPS action? Where's anything of it after three years? thats exactly my point about this years, they just basically delayed and push back their roadmap just due to the citadels themselves and all kinds of problems with terrible balancing.. honestly one would begin to consider just how much money one should spend on ccp.. i know the fanboys who went there will attempt to deflect the real issues by claiming "friendship is the best spaceship" kind of meta-gaming bullchit.. but the truth is.. this years fanfest was by far very weak and cheap.
The point now is that either you like what CCP is doing with multiplayer content or there's nothing for you in EVE, hasn't been for several years, and won't be in the foreseable future. So it's up to each player to pay for what he/she's getting NOW, rather than keep paying and hoping that "maybe later" CCP will bring some meat to his plate.
If you don't like EVE NOW, stop paying for it. Period. If you're an oldtimer and remember the good old days when CCP talked about doing something for everyone ("the ultimate scifi simulation"), those times are gone. CCP is developing a social MMO with legalised griefing as the ultimate reason to play. And that's all you'll get for your money, now, and tomorrow, and next year, and forever. |
Xaar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.09 19:46:27 -
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I just came back from FF2017 and this was the 7th time that I went.
I liked: - the efforts of CCP to enable 2-way communication with the player base (round tables and Q/A in Tranquility) - Most of the presentations (Opening, Keynote) - Max - My Megathron Was Fit With The Following - The closing ceremony (so well done and super funny)
I think the following needs to be improved: - printed hardcopy of the schedule - start earlier on Thursday - install a professional EVE Store (best articles are out of stock very quickly, increase offering of clothing and other EVE materials) - allow individual players to PvP - deathmatch
All in all, a great event and I will be back next year ! Well done CCP.
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Shadowace Evi
CroGi Gorathian Federation
13
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Posted - 2017.04.09 20:07:18 -
[57] - Quote
To be fair the big news drop was prob going to be refineries but CCP decided to drop the info before so people could think about it so they could discuss it with players and what not; however regardless that is all for the "winter" expansion. What happened to summer? Is eve only going to be getting 1 real release a year now? Dont get be wrong the new sun and graphics updates are amazing but its not content it doesn't give us a reason to keep giving CCP our money. What makes this all worse is the fact on the previous o7 shows and what not when asked whats going to happen this year they were so tight lipped about it all like they had something amazing up their sleeve. Even the whole space aids thing turned out to be disappointing as well, they hyped that thing up to hell and back and it turned it to be nothing. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6342
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Posted - 2017.04.09 20:22:49 -
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I usually put the EVE Fanfest videos up on my YouTube channel in their entirety (thank you again for your generous YouTube policies CCP) so that people that prefer to view it organized by event can view them earlier than on CCP's channel.
I will admit, however, that this year I got a bit selective in which events I am covering. I chose the best, most informative presentations and put them in this playlist.
EVE Online Fanfest 2017 Playlist
It's a subjective list of 5 main presentations, and a few related trailers and sidecuts.
View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics Federation Uprising
766
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Posted - 2017.04.10 09:09:46 -
[59] - Quote
funny how the people that attended the FF thinks it was awesome/great while those that didn't thinks it's boring.
Just Add Water
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2130
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Posted - 2017.04.10 09:21:12 -
[60] - Quote
Nat Silverguard wrote:funny how the people that attended the FF thinks it was awesome/great while those that didn't thinks it's boring. It's understandable: 1) Some people said they are going to FanFest to "meet friends" 2) You only can see on stream what CCP was doing and providing 3) You see not 100% of even what CCP was providing
So if you look at Fanfest as "Event to meet friends and have pub crawl with devs" then this Fanfest might have great success. But if you look at Fanfest as event organized and provided by CCP for their players then it was not so successful: - Fanfest is pretty expensive event for many (I, for example, having pretty good salary, do not consider it worth the money) - Fanfest has limit of players to attend => CCP should have tried to make it more interesting to watch online. And they did not succeed with it.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
755
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Posted - 2017.04.10 12:00:04 -
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Watched videos linked by Ranger 1. Maybe there was not fireworks on those presentations but there were some good things incoming. Rebalance of some hulls and modules, new citadels, new AI for pve and finally hisec content. CCP definitely hear us but still providing upgrades at their own pace. Some screens showed at the end of keynotes were amazing. It reminded me Dinsdale Piranha idea of exploration.
"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
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Jacques d'Orleans
3080
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Posted - 2017.04.10 12:00:12 -
[62] - Quote
Xaar wrote:I just came back from FF2017 and this was the 7th time that I went.
I liked: - the efforts of CCP to enable 2-way communication with the player base (round tables and Q/A in Tranquility) - Most of the presentations (Opening, Keynote) - Max - My Megathron Was Fit With The Following - The closing ceremony (so well done and super funny)
I think the following needs to be improved: - printed hardcopy of the schedule - start earlier on Thursday - install a professional EVE Store (best articles are out of stock very quickly, increase offering of clothing and other EVE materials) - allow individual players to PvP - deathmatch
All in all, a great event and I will be back next year ! Well done CCP.
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Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.04.10 12:35:38 -
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instead of releasing upcoming developments at fanfest, they did it beforehand so people could then discuss it at fanfest
its different but not necessarily worse
to me fanfest is about meeting players and devs and having fun with a shared interest |
Jenn aSide
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
15566
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Posted - 2017.04.10 12:41:40 -
[64] - Quote
Tam Arai wrote:instead of releasing upcoming developments at fanfest, they did it beforehand so people could then discuss it at fanfest
its different but not necessarily worse
to me fanfest is about meeting players and devs and having fun with a shared interest
This is true, most of the people complaining about this didn't go to fanfest and got used to seeing the 'big reveals' from home. I'm totally ok for fanfest and other EVE events to be focused on the people who actually pay to go there.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5725
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:13:50 -
[65] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Tam Arai wrote:instead of releasing upcoming developments at fanfest, they did it beforehand so people could then discuss it at fanfest
its different but not necessarily worse
to me fanfest is about meeting players and devs and having fun with a shared interest This is true, most of the people complaining about this didn't go to fanfest and got used to seeing the 'big reveals' from home. I'm totally ok for fanfest and other EVE events to be focused on the people who actually pay to go there.
The people going there wouldn't have no place to go if weren't for the 300,000 people paying subscriptions and yet NOT going to Fanfest. |
Jenn aSide
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
15567
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:32:22 -
[66] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Tam Arai wrote:instead of releasing upcoming developments at fanfest, they did it beforehand so people could then discuss it at fanfest
its different but not necessarily worse
to me fanfest is about meeting players and devs and having fun with a shared interest This is true, most of the people complaining about this didn't go to fanfest and got used to seeing the 'big reveals' from home. I'm totally ok for fanfest and other EVE events to be focused on the people who actually pay to go there. The people going there wouldn't have no place to go if weren't for the 300,000 people paying subscriptions and yet NOT going to Fanfest.
I know this is hard for you to fathom, but no one owes you anything. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1401
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Posted - 2017.04.10 13:43:12 -
[67] - Quote
@Indahmawar Fazmarai
I really like your new outfit/portrait
@lunettelulu7
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
5726
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Posted - 2017.04.10 14:03:17 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:@Indahmawar Fazmarai
I really like your new outfit/portrait
Thank you, these avatar portraits are one of the few joys CCP hasn't spoiled yet. |
Tetsel
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
315
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Posted - 2017.04.13 12:59:32 -
[69] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:funny how the people that attended the FF thinks it was awesome/great while those that didn't thinks it's boring. It's understandable: 1) Some people said they are going to FanFest to "meet friends" 2) You only can see on stream what CCP was doing and providing 3) You see not 100% of even what CCP was providing So if you look at Fanfest as "Event to meet friends and have pub crawl with devs" then this Fanfest might have great success. But if you look at Fanfest as event organized and provided by CCP for their players then it was not so successful: - Fanfest is pretty expensive event for many (I, for example, having pretty good salary, do not consider it worth the money) - Fanfest has limit of players to attend => CCP should have tried to make it more interesting to watch online. And they did not succeed with it.
Wrong, this Fanfest was the weakest, I was there, and appart from meeting people (as in any other FF/gathering) it was weak. CCP throw everything out before FF, the only thing I learnt there is how BR capships will be seeded... wow
I think they should keep some stuff to announce there instead of going with this "Read all the devblog" policy to get feedback at FF. They turn a great event about throwing new stuff at you into a boring feedback/iteration meeting I could have anytime at my work. No FF is becoming boring, really. It was my 8th and the more it goes the less I spend time at the venue, we are already planning for next year and some of my mates won't get tickets cause it's a 200$ boring event and you don't need it in order to meet Eve players, they are all over Reykjavik the whole week end.
Loyal servent to Mother Amamake.
@EVE_Tetsel
Another Bittervet Please Ignore
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Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
152
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Posted - 2017.04.14 12:37:05 -
[70] - Quote
Jeremiah Saken wrote:Watched videos linked by Ranger 1. Maybe there was not fireworks on those presentations but there were some good things incoming. Rebalance of some hulls and modules, new citadels, new AI for pve and finally hisec content. CCP definitely hear us but still providing upgrades at their own pace. Some screens showed at the end of keynotes were amazing. It reminded me Dinsdale Piranha idea of exploration.
over all fanfest was prety lack luster. some stuff did peak my intrest. however:
1- the new "PVPE" content is limited in scope to 1 aspect of space and in practicality only 5% of the player bace will ever beable to run this content (BR capitals) 2- in previous years Stream watchers were able to purchase "premium viewership" this entitaled them to some of the gifts given to fanfest atendees. i would love to have one of the concord ships even if it was only the frigate. 3- concept introductions have always been a big part of my viewing fanfest. yet this year (and the previous year for that fact) have been vary light on the ground with game concepts. i understand that CCP to a big hit over "the door" but they need to dust themsefvs off and start kicking down walls again and coming up with new and inventive ways that we can utalise this sandbox. IE-working on AI? lets add a set of missisions that use thie mechanic. let everyone see our hard work. 4- planitery flight: this is not in EVES engine... original promiss delivered in a Meta way. not progress just an ALT tech tree. 5- i would like to have seen a more agressive aproch in general from CCP this year. they seemd to be constantly on the back foot defensivly guarding thair previous achievements.
finaly have a "hail mary" mike drop would not have gone amiss, domthing for the player coming out of fanfest to incite infusiasum in the few weeks up to the next release.
PS. sorry about spelling i was typing this on work time so sppell checker was not my friend |
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
45
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Posted - 2017.04.15 02:11:34 -
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I agree with what many said that it was the weakest fanfest I have seen. Probably a lot more fun at site.....but still....
This is my 5 cents:
1) There has to be a lot more presentations from players! They are very important to the game...duh....
2) It has to be a lot more about EVE! ...duh again....not other crap games that we don't care about or VR or whatever that will be forgotten in a year or two...
3) Cover ALL EVE gaming styles.
That was actually just 3 cents...but anyway....
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Pixel Piracy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2017.04.15 05:42:40 -
[72] - Quote
As far as the VR issue is concerned VR is the future of video gaming. CCP would be stupid not to invest a significant amount of resources into this.
And I say this as someone who doesn't own any VR devices. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
5762
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Posted - 2017.04.15 08:30:08 -
[73] - Quote
Pixel Piracy wrote:As far as the VR issue is concerned VR is the future of video gaming. CCP would be stupid not to invest a significant amount of resources into this.
And I say this as someone who doesn't own any VR devices.
As for VR, it took an arrow to the knee when Sony sold ~800k devices out of expected 2.5-3 million. There is a deadly cycle when there's not enough hardware to develop the software for it which in turn makes less appealing to buy the hardware, and VR is likely to have landed in exactly that position. Looking at the degree of insanity displayed by Google's VR labs, things aren't looking pretty for the clash between Real Reality and Virtual Reality. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
31427
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Posted - 2017.04.15 16:52:41 -
[74] - Quote
This was also on fanfest, but wasnt on the stream for some unknown reason. It is not dull at all!
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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