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Il'Rik Rik'Kha Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2017.04.08 13:49:52 - [1] - Quote In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks!
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 1384	Posted - 2017.04.08 13:52:29 - [2] - Quote No. It's dog-eat-dog. Unless you're in an organization that enforces an etiquette like Signal Cartel's, basically take all their sites and kill your competition if possible. @lunettelulu7
Il'Rik Rik'Kha Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:02:01 - [3] - Quote Reassuring.
Dracvlad Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 3050	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:13:01 - [4] - Quote I would suggest that you do not cherry pick the sites unless you are being hunted, if you do this routinely some people will go into relentless hunting mode against you.. When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour. Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin
Charley Varrick State War Academy Caldari State 38	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:14:36 - [5] - Quote Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks! In EVE you have to ask yourself...would they do the things you mentioned for you?
Zeke Harthura Templis Training Academy Templis CALSF 3	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:19:13 - [6] - Quote If someone is in a site when you get there. You have 2 options: kill them or run.
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 1385	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:19:34 - [7] - Quote Quote: If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? I don't. Unless it's super obvious like you're in nullsec and there's an available local chat that shows everyone who's in system. Then I just skip by if I'm only looking to explore and go to the next empty nullsec system. Otherwise in wormholes I do my best to determine if I'm alone or not. See how many are docked in their Citadels, directional scanner, etc. Quote: If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? I always hack the cans so they at least open or explode. The site will despawn after all the cans have been hacked or failed somewhere else. The rumor is there's a set number of each site in the game at a time. Using a cargo scanner and cherry picking is really bad manners and they deserve to be beheaded. Quote: If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? This is where I measure up what I'm flying, what he's flying, how many cans are left, could I get a good jump on him before he finishes the site for me? It's entirely up to you. Explorer violence is pretty exciting! @lunettelulu7
Zeke Harthura Templis Training Academy Templis CALSF 3	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:21:51 - [8] - Quote Dracvlad wrote: I would suggest that you do not cherry pick the sites unless you are being hunted, if you do this routinely some people will go into relentless hunting mode against you.. I would say follow this advise if you go to the same region a lot. If you're like me and got different regions at different times cherry picking makes you more isk/hour because you'll go through the sites faster
Persephone Alleile Tartarus Covert Operations 368	Posted - 2017.04.08 14:35:40 - [9] - Quote One bit of explorer etiquette that is nice when people follow is to not leave sites half done. If you've got a cargo scanner and are cherry picking cans just do a couple failed hacks on the empty/worthless ones so they explode. That way the site will respawn faster elsewhere and you won't waste the next explorer to scan the system's time
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 30860	Posted - 2017.04.08 15:02:23 - [10] - Quote Its like treasure hunting and everyone wants the treasure. Its hard to keep etiquette. Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him Osprey =ƒÜÇ GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 173	Posted - 2017.04.08 15:27:41 - [11] - Quote Tops I did is to tell random people in null that the remaining sites in system are holes and combat ones after I saw their core probes. But that was during my Alpha days, when my explorer ships didn't have teeth. Theye days I'd just a set a trap. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Il'Rik Rik'Kha Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2017.04.08 15:53:45 - [12] - Quote Charley Varrick wrote: Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks! In EVE you have to ask yourself...would they do the things you mentioned for you? Yes.
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 1088	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:51:34 - [13] - Quote There's no way to claim systems for exploration sites. Any site is free game for anyone.
Mr Mieyli Hedion University Amarr Empire 557	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:55:08 - [14] - Quote I don't do much competitive exploring, but surely cherry picking is a good way to waste your competitions time on sites that you know are worthless. Pvp. I suppose of course if you aren't looking for pvp then you might want to avoid doing this. A case for more AoE in EvE
Soloman Jackson Ancient Rhythm 723	Posted - 2017.04.08 16:59:10 - [15] - Quote Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: Charley Varrick wrote: Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks! In EVE you have to ask yourself...would they do the things you mentioned for you? Mmmmmmmmmmmmm... No. No they wouldn't. It's dog eat dog. Get yours before they take it from you. GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
Vortexo VonBrenner Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 2782	Posted - 2017.04.08 18:32:02 - [16] - Quote Oh yes, certainly tell everyone you are going to be in sites...or you could just self-destruct and save a little time. EvE security zones in pictures EvE quick reference pdf EvE links
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 10776	Posted - 2017.04.08 21:05:06 - [17] - Quote Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Yes. Be sure to type GF in local after you are mercilessly destroyed. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Circumstantial Evidence 395	Posted - 2017.04.08 21:31:15 - [18] - Quote These questions make you a good candidate for Signal Cartel.
Ashlar Maidstone Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 253	Posted - 2017.04.09 16:53:33 - [19] - Quote @OP; During my time with Signal Cartel up to recently, this disccusion came up quite abit, and it was discussed up to and including cherry picking sites. The general rule of thumb was to clear the sites even if it had any worthless junk like Carbon for one. Another point was once you scanned down a site and if somebody else was already in it, just move on, of course if the sig is still active on your probe window you could go back to check and see if it was cherry picked leaving the junk behind. In my experience yes it may take a little time to clear the site if need be, but this insures that a new site will spawn somewhere else in the constellation/region. As a side note, since Alpha clones were introduced last fall, the uptick in cherry picking has gone up, but I do not have staticstics to show if it is or not.
Buoytender Bob Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining 231	Posted - 2017.04.10 02:15:05 - [20] - Quote In a game where scamming,can flipping, profanity in local chat,market manipulation,PvP almost anywhere and sundry other "vices" are considered fair or is tolerated, I find it amusing that somehow "cherry picking" is frowned upon and considered unsportsman by some. I merely consider it another form of PvP, although it does appear that it may increase profanity in local chat . To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit. ...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3909	Posted - 2017.04.10 07:02:55 - [21] - Quote Not sure about those other spaces, but if you do exploration in Highsec you obviously need a mining permit and follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Tam Arai Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 138	Posted - 2017.04.10 12:50:27 - [22] - Quote as clearing a site makes it respawn somewhere near you, its in your own interest to clear it as it may spawn in the next system you visit
Salvos Rhoska 2698	Posted - 2017.04.10 13:17:57 - [23] - Quote No etiquette. Completely depends on your own preference. As poster above, it can be considered in your own interest to clear a site, so it might respawn nearby. However leaving it incomplete, can create content, if you are creative. Speaking/contacting others in Local can be extremely beneficial, but also lead to absolute disaster. Leaving a site to someone else running it will earn you nothing. They wont thank you, and you are competition, even if you dont invade their site. Weigh the risk of competing against your capacity to do so. 3rd option: Train into an Astero, and you massively open your options. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Joey Bags School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 57	Posted - 2017.04.10 13:52:16 - [24] - Quote Depends a lot on where you are doing the exploration. High Sec, Low Sec and NPC nul - screw everybody else and do your own thing. Ninja nul sec - don't ask, don't tell! Do the stuff as fast as you can cherry pick if you have to, but I like killing the sites so another spawns. Friendly nul - I don't bother asking unless I am specifically in a system I've been told to bugger off and leave the sites for the locals. Then I only do sites in that system if I have an escalation. If there are friendlies in systems, I don't bother scanning at all and push on. Wormholes - do anything in your power to stay alive. For me that usually means I want an empty system and I will run every site and cherry pick cans leaving at least one alone, start the clocks on all the gas sites, look for anything not nailed down and take it (I get a lot of drones this way ). You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose. Unless you podded them...and collected their corpse.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1650	Posted - 2017.04.10 16:16:47 - [25] - Quote This is the only rule that applies. Do unto others *before* they do unto you. Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 3295	Posted - 2017.04.10 20:07:11 - [26] - Quote 1- Warp to sun 2- Announce you did so and stay there 3- ???????? 4- Profit!!!
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1653	Posted - 2017.04.10 21:00:28 - [27] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: 1- Warp to sun 2- Announce you did so and stay there 3- ???????? 4- Profit!!! Is step 3 turn on smart bombs? Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Haile Korhal Professional Amateurs 36	Posted - 2017.04.11 00:30:45 - [28] - Quote If you're in wormhole space definitely declare your intent and any local residents might leave you alone. Although if you hear nothing in response, it's not because there's nobody there, but because Toby or Bob of whoever ate your words and is looking to eat your ship and pod too. Egregious Spreadsheet Services - For Spreadsheets as a Service to businesses, corporations, and higher, look no further!
Amber Patoria Division 13 5800	Posted - 2017.04.11 00:49:10 - [29] - Quote Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks! Negative sir, there's no real 'etiquette'. Just keep things civil if stuff goes pear-shaped. Please hack the cans at your leisure, though feel free to announce your presence in local if you'd like. Remember to watch out for smartbombing Proteus, sensor boosted Lokis and redheads in wormholes. Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor? lo-++¦
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 496	Posted - 2017.04.11 01:03:15 - [30] - Quote Il'Rik Rik'Kha wrote: In this game there is some kind of exploration etiquette? Examples... If I am in a system claimed by someone shoud I declare my intentions in order to avoid retaliations? If there is a data / relic / something_else site that I'm unable to loot shoud I say that this site exists, in order to ease the work of my fellow explorers - if any? If I jump in and someone is looting the site should I stay or should I go? Thanks! 1. This is how you get shot. If you show up in a cloaky ship, you might be an explorer or hotdropper. If they think you're a hotdropper, they're either going to dock up or bait you into a counter-drop. Neither are effective methods to kill an explorer. Keep them guessing. 2. I've seen some people in Signal Cartel chat report the locations of Sleeper caches, but not really anything else. I guess you could if you feel nice, but keep in mind that every bit of loot pulled from a site slightly devalues your own loot. 3. If he's blue to you, my rule is first person in the site has rights to the whole site, and he may share it at his leisure. If he's not, I encourage you to find some way to drive him off or murder him. If you want to be peaceful that's your choice, but don't expect the same from everyone else. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

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