HS Stations - no
Towers - yes

Expect an NPC buyback for those towers, which is typically the case when an item is made obsolete. Hmm... TCUs. Maybe.

Thank you very much, Nasar Vyron, I'll inform my corp members that the towers will need to come down, and the equipment out there, or will the towers and arrays still function?
And are they doing the buy back on BPOs? Because we spent a lot on the Astrahus, EC, tower and array BPOs and all.
And please tell me it's optional because i'll not trade them if i can still use them.

I think that if they are removing the towers they should reduce the requirements to build a new EC because that's affordable for upstart corps founded by new players with barely anything, so they'll now have to start with an EC intead.

You still have a while on those towers. No need to rush and pull them quite yet. As far as I know when the Refineries are released the reprocessing/compression arrays will stop working and that's it for now. SMAs and corp hangers should still continue to function as they do now.

CCP will make an announcement when the change forcing all towers to offline goes through. They have not stated that it will be a part of the outpost patch. I highly doubt it will be at the same time.

I was merely stating that they will eventually be made inoperable, that's a certainty.

so what becomes of my drug lab , Structures like it, and all arrays?

In our May release we plan to end NPC BPO seeding and the building of new Starbase structures for the following Starbase structure groups:
Starbase Compression Arrays
Starbase Reprocessing Arrays
Starbase Assembly Arrays
Starbase Labs

Then in our August release we will remove the bonuses from Reprocessing Arrays, Assembly Arrays, and Starbase Labs.

This means that starting in August, Starbase Reprocessing Arrays will only provide a 50% refining yield, Starbase Assembly Arrays will not provide any material or time bonuses to manufacturing jobs, and Starbase Labs will not provide any time bonuses to research, copy, or invention jobs.

If you don't want them to be taken, defend them. You have a date for the changeover so focus your defences there.

I tried to skim through to find this answer without luck, but what happens to our outpost control towers, defensive anchorables, etc?

What happens with the current Outpost Eggs? Do we get reimbursed for them? Will they be converted to rigless faction Fortizars? Why allow outpost eggs to be built still if they cannot otherwise be planted?

Existing copies of Outpost Construction Platforms, Outpost Construction Platform Blueprints, Station Improvement Platforms and Station Upgrade Platforms have been reimbursed in the following fashion:

Station Improvement Platforms and Station Upgrade Platforms have been removed and their owners have been credited with isk equal to their full NPC sale value

Minmatar and Gallente Outpost Platform Blueprints have been converted into Astrahus blueprints

Amarr and Caldari Outpost Platform Blueprints have been converted into Raitaru blueprints

Outpost Platforms have been converted into both 1 Fortizar and 1 Azbel

have you spoken to anyone in provi about this? it seems only right since they are the ones most affected and judging by the posts in here it looks like the impact could be devastating.

if the idea here is to "adequately compensate" players for the time and resources they invested into their structures you might want to look at this one again. you're not really compensating outpost holders here, you're effectively punishing them and offering them up for content. I wouldn't mind if it affected everyone equally but this has the potential to devastate a uniquely open group of players in nullsec.

please reconsider, or at least run it past some outpost holders to see if there is a fairer way to do this. i think you should have selected a cut off date prior to the announcement to preclude the 'outpost gold rush', but if you're going to go ahead with it maybe you could do both: select a pre-announcement cut off date for all oupost holders and give them a packaged standard citadel in jita so the people who built/currently control the outposts have some reward and a means to rebuild in the aftermath of the change, and also introduce the new faction citadels for whoever controls the space after the changes go live.

No more rookie ships in Nullsec makes me cry.

Give us a self-destruct button for stations. We'd rather blown them up ourselves than see a dread blob with 50 titan alts from a superpower coalition unanchor faction citadels and whisk off a piece of history as a collectors item.

Not that I actually have a dog in this hunt, but you just hit on my thinking. If the changes paint a bullseye on you, then when the changes hit, blow up the bullseye. Not trying to be a smart alek or anything, it just seems a reasonable resort: gather everyone you can for the moment of change and blaze away, thereby creating your own self-destruct button for the stations.

Maybe I'm just a very wrathful, petty, and vengeful individual though. :D

I now leave you to your regularly scheduled arguments.

the problem is these faction citadels go to whoever owns the system on the day the change hits, meaning some people might think it's worthwhile to capture systems in provi space so they own the citadel on the day the change hits. so the current system owners, won't get the faction citadels and they will likely lose their space. seems a raw deal to me, i don't know enough about nullsec to know what will happen i'm just going on comments in here.

if current owners lose their space and end up with nothing to show for their conquerable stations do you think that's fair? i don't think it's right.

CCPlease, what will be happening with market orders already existing in Player Owned Outposts on patch day when they are replaced by faction citadels? Will they be magically transferred to the new citadel intact?