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Alessienne Ellecon Solitude Rangers 82	Posted - 2017.04.11 20:51:48 - [1] - Quote What Video Games Taught Me EVE taught me that: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. If you're not going to hide, you'd better be d--ned good at running. Everything is worth something to the right buyer. Everyone has their price. Especially if said price is on their head. Always check the fine print before you sign. The more languages you speak, the better. Someone always has more firepower than you. Someone always has more friends than you. Not every problem can be solved by throwing money at it. Those that can usually require quite a bit of money. No matter how widely hated you are, someone, somewhere, will sympathize with you. Creativity is magic. Sometimes, running away really is the best option.
Cade Windstalker 1282	Posted - 2017.04.11 21:19:21 - [2] - Quote The only bit I'd disagree with is this one: Quote: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. I've found that the vast majority of Eve players are relatively nice people, at least by internet standards. Most people don't want to be ***holes nor do they think of themselves as such, they'll shoot you if they can but that's the rules of the game. It's the people willing to swear up and down that they're a saint that you need to watch...
Zeke Harthura Templis Training Academy Templis CALSF 6	Posted - 2017.04.11 21:21:27 - [3] - Quote Why all the hiding and running? Fight back damn it!
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1545	Posted - 2017.04.11 21:23:34 - [4] - Quote Cade Windstalker wrote: The only bit I'd disagree with is this one: Quote: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. I've found that the vast majority of Eve players are relatively nice people, at least by internet standards. Most people don't want to be ***holes nor do they think of themselves as such, they'll shoot you if they can but that's the rules of the game. It's the people willing to swear up and down that they're a saint that you need to watch... This. Remove standings and insurance.
Soel Reit Dambusters 617 Sq 795	Posted - 2017.04.11 21:42:16 - [5] - Quote Alessienne Ellecon wrote: What Video Games Taught Me EVE taught me that: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. If you're not going to hide, you'd better be d--ned good at running. Everything is worth something to the right buyer. Everyone has their price. Especially if said price is on their head. Always check the fine print before you sign. The more languages you speak, the better. Someone always has more firepower than you. Someone always has more friends than you. Not every problem can be solved by throwing money at it. Those that can usually require a lot of money. No matter how widely hated you are, someone, somewhere, will sympathize with you. Creativity is magic. Sometimes, running away really is the best option. gud gud! approved!
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1657	Posted - 2017.04.11 21:56:53 - [6] - Quote What Eve Taught Me: Read every line of every contract you sign. Every Damned Line. Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Chewytowel Haklar Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 257	Posted - 2017.04.11 22:24:18 - [7] - Quote What EVE taught me: I'm a stupid person I'm bad at math Spreadsheets look like chinese to me, but oddly the nerd in me is fascinated by them Mittani is a space Diva Nullsec isn't so scary, and probably a bit safer than low sec space even. I like space games There are some pretty cool pirates in low sec space You can try to go it solo, but it ain't gonna be easy and frankly is probably damn near impossible If you have a giant group of people on some forum somewhere you can build a Nullsec power pretty fast All sandbox have themepark elements, and all themeparks have some sandbox Gaming can help change the world a little at a time (hello Discovery), and teach people new things Eve takes time to learn, and not all of us are great at the game EVE is one of the last bastions of highly successful niche mmo's I like spaceships Scamming is kinda meh, but you can make isk doing it depending on how creative you are The prison analogy of EVE seems somewhat true It's good to specialize in something If you have a lot of money to blow you can probably advance pretty fast in EVE
Mr Mieyli Hedion University Amarr Empire 570	Posted - 2017.04.11 22:35:38 - [8] - Quote Elenahina wrote: What Eve Taught Me: Read every line of every contract you sign. Every Damned Line. ...and between the lines. Never forget to read between the lines. A case for more AoE in EvE
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy 2782	Posted - 2017.04.12 00:08:56 - [9] - Quote Cade Windstalker wrote: The only bit I'd disagree with is this one: Quote: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. I've found that the vast majority of Eve players are relatively nice people, at least by internet standards. Most people don't want to be ***holes nor do they think of themselves as such, they'll shoot you if they can but that's the rules of the game. It's the people willing to swear up and down that they're a saint that you need to watch... people are mostly honest, I just don't let anyone touch my stuff if I don't have to. Likewise people are only going to shoot me if I make myself a target. selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141 @ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Ranzabar Golden Ratio One Six One 188	Posted - 2017.04.12 01:08:20 - [10] - Quote Quote: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes My real-world experience has indicated it is closer to 1:20 Abide

Pix Severus Empty You 6103	Posted - 2017.04.12 02:03:21 - [11] - Quote EVE taught me that the guy who is minding his own business shooting rocks can be a worse person than the guy who ganked him. MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - Dec 28 2016 - Vocal Local 4 MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 1424	Posted - 2017.04.12 02:48:51 - [12] - Quote Eve's taught me that socket closures and client crashes are basically a guarantee - better stick to low risk activities! @lunettelulu7
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2156	Posted - 2017.04.12 03:56:43 - [13] - Quote I had learnt the following: 1. Loss is inevitable. Make peace with the fact and be prepared to face it. 2. Trust must be earned. 3. I am not the only person who desires X. 4. There is no shame in bailing out and folding it. 5. Risk is a constant. Manage it. 6. Make better snap judgement. 7. Experience required to make better snap judgement. 8. Only way to gain experience is by doing the thing. 9. Doing the thing while inexperience will result in much loss. 10. Take the loss and gain the experience. 11. Loss is not bad. 12. Not learning from loss is bad. 13. I freaking love junkyard ships. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Alasdan Helminthauge HC - Razorback Roadhouse 106	Posted - 2017.04.12 04:05:20 - [14] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: Spreadsheets look like chinese to me, but oddly the nerd in me is fascinated by them s¢º
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 47489	Posted - 2017.04.12 04:46:34 - [15] - Quote What EVE taught me: Theres no need to worry. It's just a game - amazing how that has changed my attitude to RL too If you want something done, do it. Doing things with other people is better than doing them alone Minnesota is awesome What the forum has taught me: My opinion doesn't invalidate the right of someone else to have a different one Different opinions are what makes things interesting, especially when they are polar opposite Trying to change anyone's view on something is difficult. You can only change your own, but that's pretty rare too Edit: If you don't agree with that, you're an a**hole and you're wrong.
Ioci Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums 613	Posted - 2017.04.12 07:35:00 - [16] - Quote What EVE taught me: Avoid Iceland. Those people are warped and strange. R.I.P. Vile Rat
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 343	Posted - 2017.04.12 08:40:15 - [17] - Quote What I learnt: The steepness of the learning cliff was overstated.
Nicola Romanoff Tannhauser C-Beam 65	Posted - 2017.04.12 10:35:20 - [18] - Quote What eve taught me: The people that can make the spreadsheets have an advantage over those that cannot Repetitive strain injury (especially using PI) was a mandatory requirement from the makers. I am crap at maths Null sec isn't at all scary and can actually be quite dull. People move on Alliances and corps change for the better and for worse. Just write lots of text and it will hide the fact that not much is really added/new. Even though i've bitter vet syndrome, I am still addicted to this game I am lousy at solo PVP (but I still try) Dont rely on others to do anything. The forums have more toxic people than i actually come across in game.
Gregorius Goldstein Ze One Man Show 2479	Posted - 2017.04.12 10:59:18 - [19] - Quote IMHO there are two decent to a-hole quotas in EVE and probably all-around: Nice/helpful people that are visible to the public and speak up compared to loud salt-harvesting show-ups. That is the one you can easily count and what forms your first impression of EVE. And then there are all the decent low profile players that stick to their own stuff and help you once they got to know/trust you compared to all the secretly scheming self-declared Supreme Evil Beings. This second quota is one of the hard to measure variables that make EVE so darn interesting to play.
Magnus Jax Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2017.04.12 11:04:39 - [20] - Quote Most PVPers are sane, rational people. Most carebears are the most vile, nastiest, fascist and hateful people you'll ever meet. The rest all stems from that.

Ijon-Tichy Ze One Man Show 32	Posted - 2017.04.12 11:15:04 - [21] - Quote Magnus Jax wrote: Most PVPers are sane, rational people. Most carebears are the most vile, nastiest, fascist and hateful people you'll ever meet. . How could you dare to say this! Every ISK I make bolsters my personality. I am those ISK. Losing any of this is like losing a part of me! And because I am so great everyone wants to steal from me and wants to ruin my game! And they don't even know how to play this game properly. If EVE tought me anything then that most people are damn wrong about everything all the time.
Hello Meow Kitty Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 24	Posted - 2017.04.12 13:31:06 - [22] - Quote EVE taught me not to make friends in EVE. Play solo and pretend you participate in large alliances.
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 179	Posted - 2017.04.12 14:29:25 - [23] - Quote Eve taught me how it feels to do some stuff I otherwise wouldn't and couldn't do to people. It feels good. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 179	Posted - 2017.04.12 14:40:04 - [24] - Quote Ijon-Tichy wrote: If EVE tought me anything then that most people are damn wrong about everything all the time. Not all the time. You sir -for example- are goddamn right! This time. They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Bjorn Tyrson EVE University Ivy League 510	Posted - 2017.04.12 15:17:09 - [25] - Quote That the world is entirely full of almost honest people.
Kathern Aurilen 229	Posted - 2017.04.12 15:18:55 - [26] - Quote Alessienne Ellecon wrote: What Video Games Taught Me EVE taught me that: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. I think it's more like every decent person you "interact with", there is 100 a--holes... Meaning you may not really be interacting with very many people, except the ones forcing an unwanted interaction on you though unwanted weapon interaction sometimes called a gank or space ****. I pass a 100 people a day, I sometimes get on local and chat and I don't always have a lot of trouble, some are even nice on local. No cuts, no butts, no coconuts! Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
Zarek Kree Lunatic Legion Holdings 151	Posted - 2017.04.12 15:32:34 - [27] - Quote Avaelica Kuershin wrote: What I learnt: The steepness of the learning cliff was overstated. Then you're only hiking the easy trails.
Yebo Lakatosh KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 179	Posted - 2017.04.12 15:55:18 - [28] - Quote Zarek Kree wrote: Then you're only hiking the easy trails. Like finding those are a thing that everyone could do, they just chose not to.. Ahh wait... They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
Alessienne Ellecon Solitude Rangers 88	Posted - 2017.04.12 15:55:37 - [29] - Quote Zeke Harthura wrote: Why all the hiding and running? Fight back damn it! Someone always has more firepower than you. Someone always has more friends than you.
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 31109	Posted - 2017.04.12 16:02:33 - [30] - Quote EVE taught me how to play until you fall sleep with hands on keyboard. Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him Osprey =ƒÜÇ GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ

Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation 2649	Posted - 2017.04.12 17:23:37 - [31] - Quote What Eve taught me: 1. I am way too optimistic about human nature. 2. I can become committed to something to the point of being irrational. 3. Never ever believe a thing CCP promises. 4. I will never understand what motivates some players. 5. Given a steady effort you can accumulate a fair amount of isks doing even the simplest things. 6. Eve isn't dying. 7. I like space games more than elves and fantasy settings even if the space game isn't my idea of perfect. 8. Knowing how to use Excel is useful for a lot of what you can do in Eve. 9. There is no "right" way to play Eve. 10. Someone is always going to do something "better" than you but if you keep at it you will be doing some things better than some other folks. 11. I like Iceland and especially the Nonni's lamb sub sandwich but the Bill Clinton "world's best hot dog" isn't. 12. When it all is boiled down to its essence the person with the most Trit wins. 13. There is fun t be had among the sociapathy that is Eve id you don't take it personally. 14. There will never be a butter vet reward, see item 3. Also that Anniversary mystery code will remain a mystery, again see item 3. 15. Greed isn't so good. 16. I really do understand the bitter vet as I am now clearly one of them. 17. The best parts of Even come from being part of a community or group even is some folks don't like that community or group. 18. High sec isn't safe, low sec isn't instant death, null is maybe the easiest place in Eve for the most part. 19. War decs can be survived and seem more scary than they actually should be. 20. The whole point of Eve is you are an immortal pod pilot in a "spaceship" so walking in station although seems like it might be fun is counter the be basic premise of Eve. 21. Eve will NEVER be as popular as other games and it shouldn't matter to the players. 22. I will never stop learning things in Eve.
LulKlz Duster Intergalactic Mining Dominion Aerospace Systems 10	Posted - 2017.04.12 19:34:16 - [32] - Quote Going from HS straight to WH space without a shred of PvP experience was not exactly the best thing to do. 2) check those gates for camps BEFORE jumping
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1665	Posted - 2017.04.12 20:08:40 - [33] - Quote Zarek Kree wrote: Avaelica Kuershin wrote: What I learnt: The steepness of the learning cliff was overstated. Then you're only hiking the easy trails. To be fair, it has levelled out a little since the early days. You really don't need a sherpa anymore to get to the top. (But it's still funny to push them off when you get there) Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Jacques d'Orleans 3100	Posted - 2017.04.14 09:05:18 - [34] - Quote What EvE taught me: What ever you do, what ever playstyle you have, what ever CCP does, there will be always someone whining about it in the forums. If you're losing your temper because of a lost ship, you should recalibrate your reality sensors or level them up to V. I wouldn't kiss my mother with that mouth (regarding to swearing in local by the usual suspects). There are people on this planet who whine about 15 bucks a month for EvE, but the same dudes are most possibly spending 8 bucks for Starbucks sludge, every day, without even thinking about it. Dark Lager and Single Malt go very good with EvE. "You call that a drama?, dude, please, I play EvE." You know you play too much EvE when you have a ringtone like this Once I was a hauler like you, but then I took a Cata to the knee.n++ Not only Permaband can make good music Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1670	Posted - 2017.04.14 11:16:37 - [35] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: What EvE taught me: "You call that a drama?, dude, please, I play EvE." I have to admit, I nodded when I read this and thought, damned right. Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 3417	Posted - 2017.04.14 22:34:59 - [36] - Quote After 10 years of playing I can still be quite the scrub. coming soonGäó = just thinking about it, no real plans There is no correlation between how "hard" you work and how much ISK you make. There is a correlation between how cut-throat, clever, &/or fast you are and how much ISK you make. D-bags are in every profession in EvE. Awesome people are also in every profession in EvE. Things will never be "perfect" in the game because there are other players. You can't get mad about losing a ship... if you do you'll turn into a basket case. Some pods are basket cases. Some people take internet spaceships too super seriously. Games should be fun. So have fun. I still don't know anything about mining. Other than it's not allowed HS, of course. Signatures should be used responsibly...
Khergit Deserters Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 5002	Posted - 2017.04.14 23:19:45 - [37] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: Cade Windstalker wrote: The only bit I'd disagree with is this one: Quote: For every decent person you meet, there are 100 a--holes. I've found that the vast majority of Eve players are relatively nice people, at least by internet standards. Most people don't want to be ***holes nor do they think of themselves as such, they'll shoot you if they can but that's the rules of the game. It's the people willing to swear up and down that they're a saint that you need to watch... This. They're like everything else on Earth-- strange and wacky. They 'wreck each others' dreams,' and point and laugh about it in Local, if they can get a reaction from the wrecked (often inexperienced) guy. But they'll welcome newbros and give their time and isk to help them. They'll scam the jock straps off of each other if they can. But they'll donate 10s of 1000s of dollars/euros (kajillions of isk) to PLEX for Good. Seems it's a strange and singular society, with some kind of non-formalized but informally agreed-upon rules and norms of its own. Kind of a cargo cult or something. Somebody could write a thesis and get a degree.
Ranzabar Golden Ratio One Six One 192	Posted - 2017.04.16 01:43:39 - [38] - Quote Ioci wrote: What EVE taught me: Avoid Iceland. Those people are warped and strange. Ever been to Philadelphia? Abide


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