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murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.07 21:49:00 - [1] So yeah, rigs that increase the optimal range of warp scram/disruptors, and another one for webs. T1: 20% increase per rig, they stack, no stacking penalty, for both web/scram rigs. Drawback: 10% shield amount per rig. T2: 25% per rig, 10% shield amount per rig. Fitting: T1: 200 calibration per rig. T2: 250 calibration per rig. How cool would that be? Because I said so...
ArtemisEntreri Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.07 21:51:00 - [2] We would see Arazu/Lachesis with 118km range :psyduck:
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:08:00 - [3] Originally by: ArtemisEntreri We would see Arazu/Lachesis with 118km range :psyduck: I don't see the downside I can already get 80km out of my Lachesis w/ faction disruptors and gang bonuses. The thing is, achieving results like this isn't going to be typical from most of the players/setups. You're talking about the top 1% (or less) setups in the game. T2 disruptor w/ Recon 5 and 2x T1 rigs fit would be ~69km. Seems pretty reasonable to me, seeing as how I can achieve the same w/ faction disruptors and gang bonuses currently. Also note: you'd be sacrificing the rig slots so you wouldn't be able to run cap rigs in there, which are (IMO) critical to making a workable Lachesis setup. Because I said so...
lofty29 Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:14:00 - [4] Originally by: murder one You're talking about the top 1% (or less) setups in the game. Money =/= Greatness --- My sig has gone into exile
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:15:00 - [5] Edited by: madaluap on 07/05/2007 22:14:02 Yeh it would be cool, but a webbing rig would be overpowered. It would mean that for 50 mil (lets say 25 mil per rig, or even less cash) everyone could web from 13,608 km with -90% webber. Thats with 2* 20% rig btw. Dont want to know what a huggin can do . Scrambling = yeh, webbing = no. Being scrambled doesnt matter for shipperformance, webbers are allready very strong. Strongest EW in the game imo. /edit: @ ArtemisEntreri, it would simply become a choice. Personally i prefer damp rigs on my lachesis and take those over more range, because fights are mostly close range or very, very far away. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:18:00 - [6] Originally by: madaluap Yeh it would be cool, but a webbing rig would be overpowered. It would mean that for 50 mil (lets say 25 mil per rig, or even less cash) everyone could web from 13,608 km with -90% webber. Thats with 2* 20% rig btw. Dont want to know what a huggin can do . Scrambling = yeh, webbing = no. Being scrambled doesnt matter for shipperformance, webbers are allready very strong. Strongest EW in the game imo. But I can already web people -90% at 15km w/ a Domi web. I don't see how ~13km web @ 90% is going to be overpowered. Additionally, you're forgetting that you can't fit any other rigs on a ship with two of these rigs fit. Just taking up the rig slots is a big drawback to a ship's setup. No grid/cap rigs etc. Because I said so...
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:27:00 - [7] Originally by: murder one Originally by: madaluap Yeh it would be cool, but a webbing rig would be overpowered. It would mean that for 50 mil (lets say 25 mil per rig, or even less cash) everyone could web from 13,608 km with -90% webber. Thats with 2* 20% rig btw. Dont want to know what a huggin can do . Scrambling = yeh, webbing = no. Being scrambled doesnt matter for shipperformance, webbers are allready very strong. Strongest EW in the game imo. But I can already web people -90% at 15km w/ a Domi web. I don't see how ~13km web @ 90% is going to be overpowered. Additionally, you're forgetting that you can't fit any other rigs on a ship with two of these rigs fit. Just taking up the rig slots is a big drawback to a ship's setup. No grid/cap rigs etc. Thats what i am saying. Domination web = 160-180 mil, fitting 2 of those rigs will probably cost you less than 50 mil. Because 25 mil for a T1 rig is allready a quiet expensive rig. A 4 km/s huggin, losing 10% shield will have no problem with that. Allthough i think a huggin might go for the extra scramble range, this means they can use there webrange even better. I do see your point, but webbers are allready damn strong. You are basically making T2 into faction for a fraction of its price. Even IF you lose rigslots. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ArtemisEntreri Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:29:00 - [8] These ideas are ok, but maybe 15%-20% rather? Btw shield penalty sucks maybe some other penalty instead (Not that I can think of an alternative atm)
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:32:00 - [9] Originally by: ArtemisEntreri These ideas are ok, but maybe 15%-20% rather? Btw shield penalty sucks maybe some other penalty instead (Not that I can think of an alternative atm) -20% to targetpainting signature increase _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:50:00 - [10] Originally by: ArtemisEntreri We would see Arazu/Lachesis with 118km range :psyduck: This is a good idea. -------------

Ghostshadow Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.05.07 22:54:00 - [11] Edited by: Ghostshadow on 07/05/2007 22:54:41 what would a huggin be able to web to w/ dimination webbers? Without looking up the stats(i'm not in game atm) somewhere in the 80-90k range? Edit, imagine the gate camps possible. 1 large bubble 1 lachesis/arazu 1 huggin/rapier + gang of sniper ships and sentry drones =) ____________________________________________ A * B = C A = Skill Points B = GPA C = a Constant. Guess what happens to B as A increases.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.07 23:21:00 - [12] Originally by: ArtemisEntreri These ideas are ok, but maybe 15%-20% rather? Btw shield penalty sucks maybe some other penalty instead (Not that I can think of an alternative atm) Ok, 15% for T1, 20% for T2? And why is -10% shields per rig a bad drawback? It's the standard drawback for all ECM/EW related rigs. Because I said so...
ArtemisEntreri Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.07 23:39:00 - [13] Originally by: murder one Originally by: ArtemisEntreri These ideas are ok, but maybe 15%-20% rather? Btw shield penalty sucks maybe some other penalty instead (Not that I can think of an alternative atm) Ok, 15% for T1, 20% for T2? And why is -10% shields per rig a bad drawback? It's the standard drawback for all ECM/EW related rigs. I realise that but I don't really count disruptors as ew even thought it is, I just think it's too harsh because of passive tanking, but I suppose it's fair in the sense that astronautic rigs decrease armor. All in all I retract my statement -shields is ok And yes 15% for t1 and 20% for t2
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.07 23:53:00 - [14] Originally by: ArtemisEntreri Originally by: murder one Originally by: ArtemisEntreri These ideas are ok, but maybe 15%-20% rather? Btw shield penalty sucks maybe some other penalty instead (Not that I can think of an alternative atm) Ok, 15% for T1, 20% for T2? And why is -10% shields per rig a bad drawback? It's the standard drawback for all ECM/EW related rigs. I realise that but I don't really count disruptors as ew even thought it is, I just think it's too harsh because of passive tanking, but I suppose it's fair in the sense that astronautic rigs decrease armor. All in all I retract my statement -shields is ok And yes 15% for t1 and 20% for t2 I'd settle for 15% T1 and 20% T2 just fine. And as for the drawback being bad for passive shield tankers: LOL. Has anyone seen the drawbacks for armor tanking mods?! They ***your speed so hard it's just disgusting. And speed rigs ruin your armor tank. It's horrible. Meanwhile shield tankers get increased sig radius. Oh noes! Because I said so...**
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.05.08 07:10:00 - [15] I like the idea. But only because my alt has recon ships lvl 5 ISD raped my sig!


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