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MrHunter	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:03:00 - [1] Yeap, privateers - since ccp nurfed the alliance and basically took the last fun thing to do, I dunno what to do now. Don't wanna priate, run missions, get stuck with alliance politics, play pos wars. sigh What is there to do that dosn't force you to sit on eve hours at a time. I liked being able to login, and get some action within half an hour. Perhaps it's time to retire. No you can't have my stuff - get your own.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:04:00 - [2] form a corp like mine. its like privateers in 0.0. we move into an area, and kill everyone we can. no politics.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:06:00 - [3] Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:03:53 Originally by: MrHunter Yeap, privateers - since ccp nurfed the alliance and basically took the last fun thing to do, I dunno what to do now. Don't wanna priate, run missions, get stuck with alliance politics, play pos wars. sigh What is there to do that dosn't force you to sit on eve hours at a time. I liked being able to login, and get some action within half an hour. Perhaps it's time to retire. No you can't have my stuff - get your own. What about policing low-sec? Some of the pirates and griefers there could do with some comeuppance (Note to self: Look that up again! I'm sure that's not how it's spelt) ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
La Hafiz Newton Technology	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:11:00 - [4] Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? img144.imageshack.us/img144/6767/nmosque14vt.jpg[/IMG] Signature removed, lacks Eve related content - Cortes
J Ripper Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:13:00 - [5] Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Erm, Nothing now my sig: --- Jon Johansen ---
MrHunter	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:15:00 - [6] Edited by: MrHunter on 08/05/2007 21:11:36 Originally by: The Pointless What about policing low-sec? Some of the pirates and griefers there could do with some comeuppance (Note to self: Look that up again! I'm sure that's not how it's spelt) Doing that now, problem is with my time zone there is few to be found and anything you find is docked... With privateers you could login just before dt and still find something. :-( Also, i've been in 0.0, been in the big 0.0 alliances taken over stations setup pos's blah blah blah. Then someone pulls out there cap fleet :-/ Next.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:15:00 - [7] Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:13:38 Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Privateers was an alliance that, from what I gather, Wardecced any corp that had the numbers but not the obious potential in the 'battlefield'. But the last patch put paid to that with some changes to the War-dec system. [EDIT]MrHunter: Maybe you should try carebearing it for a bit? Train an Industrial Ship skill, take some courier contracts? Hell, take the risky HiSec to LoSec ones for some thrills? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
MrHunter	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:17:00 - [8] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Privateers was an alliance that, from what I gather, Wardecced any corp that had the numbers but not the obious potential in the 'battlefield'. But the last patch put paid to that with some changes to the War-dec system. So all the big pvp alliances had no potential in the 'battlefield'? At the end privateers war dec'd over 200 alliances/corps including all the big pvp players.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:17:00 - [9] Quote: Don't wanna priate, get stuck with alliance politics, Exactly what you think you were doing in Privateers? Pirating and playing alliance politics. Even playing privaters in, privaters out was part of alliance ploitics, and working as a merc too.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:18:00 - [10] Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:15:02 Originally by: MrHunter So all the big pvp alliances had no potential in the 'battlefield'? At the end privateers war dec'd over 200 alliances/corps including all the big pvp players. Along with a number of PvE-orientated corps that had no experience in PvP and browned their trousers at the news of being wardecced. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
MrHunter	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:20:00 - [11] Thats not what you said before thou is it. Anyway this is getting off topic! What is there in eve that is fun to do anymore?
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:21:00 - [12] What about finding a very large and active corp/alliance that operates in Empire space to war dec on? Then you could get your gankbear game back on...although not in the numbers as before. Merc Blog
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:24:00 - [13] Originally by: MrHunter Thats not what you said before thou is it. Well, I did say "from what I gather", meaning it wasn't a definite fact, just my perception based on what I've heard. Which reminds me, I haven't stuck my head in C&P for a month. Originally by: MrHunter Anyway this is getting off topic! What is there in eve that is fun to do anymore? Like I said, try courier missions that take you into Low-sec. After getting spanked by gatecampers in 0.4 (Failed to expect that), even a quick trip through Elarel scares me now. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
GimmeeThat	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:29:00 - [14] Originally by: slothe form a corp like mine. its like privateers in 0.0. we move into an area, and kill everyone we can. no politics. pretty sure he is looking for target that don't fight back, that's why low sec idea doesn't help him.
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:35:00 - [15] Originally by: The Pointless Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:15:02 Originally by: MrHunter So all the big pvp alliances had no potential in the 'battlefield'? At the end privateers war dec'd over 200 alliances/corps including all the big pvp players. Along with a number of PvE-orientated corps that had no experience in PvP and browned their trousers at the news of being wardecced. No, they just war declared everyone and their grandfather (with little discrimination one way or the other) so that as many as possible in high-sec would be legal targets for them. They didn't care much who they declared on. In short, they abused a game mechanism in order to effectively turn high-sec into 0.0 for themselves. That is, into a place where you can kill anyone without taking a sec hit or being attacked by Concord or sentry guns. ------------------ "If you ever need anything please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
Portios Smith DNR Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:41:00 - [16] Originally by: GimmeeThat Originally by: slothe form a corp like mine. its like privateers in 0.0. we move into an area, and kill everyone we can. no politics. pretty sure he is looking for target that don't fight back, that's why low sec idea doesn't help him. I am pretty sure he means a target that doesnt shoot back with a blob of 60 ships and 2 carriers to kill 4 cruisers. This sig was made for hijack - Timmeh I am getting tha nerf bat and the mods wont stay out of my sig :(
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:45:00 - [17] Find everyone like-minded as you, get corps and mutual war-dec each other. OR Whine like this on the forums ;-) See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:45:00 - [18] Originally by: The Pointless Like I said, try courier missions that take you into Low-sec. After getting spanked by gatecampers in 0.4 (Failed to expect that), even a quick trip through Elarel scares me now. Try joining a corp that lives in a really dangerous part of 0.0, and live out there for a few months. Low-sec will start to feel like a safe place for you, and I don't mean just by comparison. It really will be safer. Low-sec is really not dangerous at all if you know what you're doing. I took my Iteron III through pirate-infested low-sec systems in Placid more times than I can count while setting up a low-sec pos in an 0.1 system, then maintaining and keeping it supplied with fuel for a few weeks while transporting the materials it mined from the moon out to sell them, and then finally taking it down and selling the parts. I was locked and fired on by pirates in commandships or battlecruisers several times, but never once lost my ship. ------------------ "If you ever need anything please don't Hesitate to ask someone else first."
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:46:00 - [19] Originally by: MrHunter Yeap, privateers - since ccp nurfed the alliance and basically took the last fun thing to do, I dunno what to do now. Don't wanna priate, run missions, get stuck with alliance politics, play pos wars. sigh What is there to do that dosn't force you to sit on eve hours at a time. I liked being able to login, and get some action within half an hour. Perhaps it's time to retire. No you can't have my stuff - get your own. What Privateers did and to a certain ammount still do, have been going on for a limited time only. Both before The privateers came up with war deccing everyone and their mother and the neighbourhood dog and the CCP nerf have people never been running short of targets. Also, I understand that have been a increase in number of Freighter victims in EMpire space. If you cant come up with an idea of what to do in EvE to get yourself some fat targets, I dont think tvh you are thinking your case thorough hard enough... Just my 0.0000002 isk Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
Marquis Dean Energy.	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Aindrias Whine like this on the forums ;-) What a ** you are sir. I'd hardly class the OP as a whine. --- Originally by:** korrey Marquis I have to admit, without you there wouldn't be much laughter in these forums.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:07:00 - [21] Quote: CCP stole my fun, what to do now Think of it this way: Quote: CCP: Privateers, you are stealing the fun from 10s of thousands of our players. What should we do? Your fun is no more important than another's fun. If you don't like 0.0 politics, mining, missions, etc about the only option you now have is to make a small PvP Corp and target specific opponents or move to LowSec and pirate... <-----------> Keiron: Quote on PvE/PvP [i]PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:08:00 - [22] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Aindrias Whine like this on the forums ;-) What a **** you are sir. I'd hardly class the OP as a whine. Ok.. I guess it was out of line... I've been sucked in by all the others who call those that voice complaints "whiners". I do so apologize. ;-) It was the "sigh" that caught me though... See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:19:00 - [23] I know it's fashionable to flame Privateers, but many of you just don't get it... It's not about fighting targets that can't shoot back. It's about having targets to fight in general. Low sec is dead. 0.0 is full of bubbles, capitals, politics, and pos warfare. Hi sec on the other hand is alive and full of people. Wardeccing was the only option we casual pvpers had left. We just want to log on, blast a few peeps (or die trying), and go to bed. Most of us had tried both lowsec and nosec. Both were quite boring. All I can say is, hang in there MrHunter. Perhaps Factional Warfare will bring back the Privateers in a way.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Venkul Mul Quote: Don't wanna priate, get stuck with alliance politics, Exactly what you think you were doing in Privateers? Pirating and playing alliance politics. Even playing privaters in, privaters out was part of alliance ploitics, and working as a merc too. Politics are not involved in the privateers - for the 'rank and file' especially. The admin staff had some small politics to deal with - two frienldy fire incidents, couple of members kicked for griefing a corpie, couple of 'rules' had to be set, the euni ban, alts paying for wars with hush hush info etc. But not a lot tbh. A lot of our members had alts in the very alliances we decced -No side was taken in the 'vaunted' great war. Both sides were decced. I take issue with your accusation. Also we didnt pirate. Shooting a war target is by definition not piracy. Every target had 24 hours to make themselves immune with a click of a button. Post nerf - many of the very people who bumped up their sec status and stopped pirating to come join us for honest killing. Have gone back to pirating. The nerfing of the privateers - increased piracy. The privateer alliance decreased it. SKUNK
Nicholas Barker Caldari Black Bands	Posted - 2007.05.08 23:56:00 - [25] i wuz in ur empires, slaying ur stupid members. --- - We lost that fight - Quick, smack'em in local or they'll think they won!
Grendelsbane	Posted - 2007.05.09 02:55:00 - [26] There are areas where you can often find action, especially where hisec changes right into 0.0. It just takes some work. I never whined about the Privateers, even when wardecced by them -- PvP in empire for a couple of weeks was exciting for a change. I feel your pain, but you're just going to have to put in the work to find some new pilots to shoot at.
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:03:00 - [27] Head for a system called P3EN with a few friends and camp the OBE gate. I bet you get more action than you can handle.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:26:00 - [28] Instead of alliances coming to your doorstep, maybe you should go to theirs? Oh wait, that takes a bit more balls... Click above for my killboard stats.
heheheh Singularity. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:31:00 - [29] Originally by: The Pointless Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:13:38 Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Privateers was an alliance that, from what I gather, Wardecced any corp that had the numbers but not the obious potential in the 'battlefield'. But the last patch put paid to that with some changes to the War-dec system. [EDIT]MrHunter: Maybe you should try carebearing it for a bit? Train an Industrial Ship skill, take some courier contracts? Hell, take the risky HiSec to LoSec ones for some thrills? You are wrong, Since when have BOB,D2,RA,Goons had no experience of PVP ? Tosssers like you that messed up their fun.
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Kirex Instead of alliances coming to your doorstep, maybe you should go to theirs? Oh wait, that takes a bit more balls... bandwagon smack ftl tbfh. I understand where your coming from, my corp did a stint in priv. But it was like playing eve in god mode. Eve was never designed to be so easy to find targets and this isnt counterstrike. 0.0 isnt that dangerous tbh, you just need to move in groups or in fast ships. Your tactics will need to be a lot better than oh look there's one boom too. There are corps out there that have very little to do with politics and just essentially blow people up for fun. You just need to do your homework and find one that's on your timezone cause there's nothing worse than being the only one in corp chat all the time. Check the killboards, ask about their nap lists and future plans e.t.c and you'll be fine. Or, follow the advice suggested and set up a corp on the Outbreak model. Looking at their killboard it obviously works well. ----------------------------------------------- logoffski is bad mmmk?
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:43:00 - [31] Originally by: Le Skunk Politics are not involved in the privateers Also we didnt pirate. Shooting a war target is by definition not piracy. So you didnt engage in alliance politics, but all your kills were kosher due to alliance political actions (wars)? _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.05.09 03:44:00 - [32] Fight members of your own corp. All your targets are as eager for a scrap as you. No wardecs needed. No need to leave Empire. You even have your own private chat tab to smack talk in.
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters	Posted - 2007.05.09 04:34:00 - [33] HMM as much as i personally dont like it ( hey eve should be more then this) thats the trend of 0.0 corps atm: zero politics just fly around and gank everything not blue. So it seems to me to be easy to substitute for your prev adrenaline. You can check for example ronin alliance, seems like they are meant for you.. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Misanth X-Fire	Posted - 2007.05.09 05:14:00 - [34] Edited by: Misanth on 09/05/2007 05:11:25 Originally by: Kruel I know it's fashionable to flame Privateers, but many of you just don't get it... It's not about fighting targets that can't shoot back. It's about having targets to fight in general. Low sec is dead. 0.0 is full of bubbles, capitals, politics, and pos warfare. Hi sec on the other hand is alive and full of people. Wardeccing was the only option we casual pvpers had left. We just want to log on, blast a few peeps (or die trying), and go to bed. Most of us had tried both lowsec and nosec. Both were quite boring. All I can say is, hang in there MrHunter. Perhaps Factional Warfare will bring back the Privateers in a way. Agree, and disagree. In most cases it was targets that didn't fight back (not many pick fights in high sec). However, I agree that lowsec pvp is dead, and something serious needs to be done to bring back fast-pased pvp. It's ridicilous how CCP with EvE is doing the same mistake as Blizzard with WoW - make everything centered around groups/gangs and raid/fleets. There's very little pvp left for those in odd timezones or with limited time. Hell, even for those that like me can play 15/day 7 days a week, I'd guess even if I was trying to find pvp in 0.0 I'd still have to spend 95% of my time NPCing while waiting for the groups/fleets to assemble. In that sense I agree with you. Still, I happen to have spent some time in Empire lately (0.0 is just dead, might as well try get myself a couple of Navy Apocs) and Privateers - at least in the space I been running - have just ganked new players and traders. No real fighting anywhere. For the OP I guess there is no solution. If you only liked ganking and want fast access this isn't the game for you. Hopefully CCP realise this and remove local, remove blobs, remove capical ships - as well as give some ships (most logical, a new tier of battleships) mobile jumpdrives.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:46:00 - [35] Originally by: heheheh Originally by: The Pointless Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:13:38 Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Privateers was an alliance that, from what I gather, Wardecced any corp that had the numbers but not the obious potential in the 'battlefield'. But the last patch put paid to that with some changes to the War-dec system. [EDIT]MrHunter: Maybe you should try carebearing it for a bit? Train an Industrial Ship skill, take some courier contracts? Hell, take the risky HiSec to LoSec ones for some thrills? You are wrong, Since when have BOB,D2,RA,Goons had no experience of PVP ? Tosssers like you that messed up their fun. Yay, an idiot failed to read the 'from what I gather' part of that post again. ^.^ ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:53:00 - [36] Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/05/2007 17:49:39 Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: heheheh Originally by: The Pointless Edited by: The Pointless on 08/05/2007 21:13:38 Originally by: La Hafiz Hey there, been out of the loop for a while. What are privateers? Privateers was an alliance that, from what I gather, Wardecced any corp that had the numbers but not the obious potential in the 'battlefield'. But the last patch put paid to that with some changes to the War-dec system. [EDIT]MrHunter: Maybe you should try carebearing it for a bit? Train an Industrial Ship skill, take some courier contracts? Hell, take the risky HiSec to LoSec ones for some thrills? You are wrong, Since when have BOB,D2,RA,Goons had no experience of PVP ? Tosssers like you that messed up their fun. Yay, an idiot failed to read the 'from what I gather' part of that post again. ^.^ Well how about rather then posting anything else in any thread you say the following: "I gathered wrong. I heard something from a three day old noob who heard it from a forum post somewhere and took it as fact. I then posted it as a fact - even though i had not the slightest bit of evidence. And subsequently turned out to be complety wrong." SKUNK
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:59:00 - [37] Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* Originally by: Kirex Instead of alliances coming to your doorstep, maybe you should go to theirs? Oh wait, that takes a bit more balls... bandwagon smack ftl tbfh. I understand where your coming from, my corp did a stint in priv. But it was like playing eve in god mode. Eve was never designed to be so easy to find targets and this isnt counterstrike. 0.0 isnt that dangerous tbh, you just need to move in groups or in fast ships. Your tactics will need to be a lot better than oh look there's one boom too. There are corps out there that have very little to do with politics and just essentially blow people up for fun. You just need to do your homework and find one that's on your timezone cause there's nothing worse than being the only one in corp chat all the time. Check the killboards, ask about their nap lists and future plans e.t.c and you'll be fine. Or, follow the advice suggested and set up a corp on the Outbreak model. Looking at their killboard it obviously works well. THIS GUY FTW! See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:59:00 - [38] Originally by: Misanth Edited by: Misanth on 09/05/2007 05:11:25 Originally by: Kruel I know it's fashionable to flame Privateers, but many of you just don't get it... It's not about fighting targets that can't shoot back. It's about having targets to fight in general. Low sec is dead. 0.0 is full of bubbles, capitals, politics, and pos warfare. Hi sec on the other hand is alive and full of people. Wardeccing was the only option we casual pvpers had left. We just want to log on, blast a few peeps (or die trying), and go to bed. Most of us had tried both lowsec and nosec. Both were quite boring. All I can say is, hang in there MrHunter. Perhaps Factional Warfare will bring back the Privateers in a way. Agree, and disagree. In most cases it was targets that didn't fight back (not many pick fights in high sec). However, I agree that lowsec pvp is dead, and something serious needs to be done to bring back fast-pased pvp. It's ridicilous how CCP with EvE is doing the same mistake as Blizzard with WoW - make everything centered around groups/gangs and raid/fleets. There's very little pvp left for those in odd timezones or with limited time. Hell, even for those that like me can play 15/day 7 days a week, I'd guess even if I was trying to find pvp in 0.0 I'd still have to spend 95% of my time NPCing while waiting for the groups/fleets to assemble. In that sense I agree with you. Still, I happen to have spent some time in Empire lately (0.0 is just dead, might as well try get myself a couple of Navy Apocs) and Privateers - at least in the space I been running - have just ganked new players and traders. No real fighting anywhere. For the OP I guess there is no solution. If you only liked ganking and want fast access this isn't the game for you. Hopefully CCP realise this and remove local, remove blobs, remove capical ships - as well as give some ships (most logical, a new tier of battleships) mobile jumpdrives. Ouch you want privateers, capital ship, blobs AND local removed and mobile jumpdrives addeded. Thats a big target - but you got the first one :) TBH your quote on " have just ganked new players and traders. No real fighting anywhere" is utter rubbish. It has been disproven many times - yet mud sticks - especialy when there are parrots throwing it.Whilst anything flashing was shot - Small gang engagements were rife. 1 v 1's were rife. Fleet battles were occasional. I spent a lot of time evading big gankathon fleets after my blood. I also spent a lot of time trying to engage superior numbers in an attempt to try out better fittings/tactics. SKUNK
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.09 18:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Le Skunk Well how about rather then posting anything else in any thread you say the following: "I gathered wrong. I heard something from a three day old noob who heard it from a forum post somewhere and took it as fact. I then posted it as a fact - even though i had not the slightest bit of evidence. And subsequently turned out to be complety wrong." SKUNK Well, if you'd bothered to read this, which I had posted further down Page 1: Quote: Well, I did say "from what I gather", meaning it wasn't a definite fact, just my perception based on what I've heard. Which reminds me, I haven't stuck my head in C&P for a month. You wouldn't have wasted your time posting that, would you? ~_^ ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 18:23:00 - [40] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Le Skunk Well how about rather then posting anything else in any thread you say the following: "I gathered wrong. I heard something from a three day old noob who heard it from a forum post somewhere and took it as fact. I then posted it as a fact - even though i had not the slightest bit of evidence. And subsequently turned out to be complety wrong." SKUNK Well, if you'd bothered to read this, which I had posted further down Page 1: Quote: Well, I did say "from what I gather", meaning it wasn't a definite fact, just my perception based on what I've heard. Which reminds me, I haven't stuck my head in C&P for a month. You wouldn't have wasted your time posting that, would you? ~_^ Nope your right on that one Your perception was rubbish though. But a lot of people share it / pretned to share it. SKUNK
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 18:44:00 - [41] Originally by: Le Skunk ...Also we didnt pirate. Shooting a war target is by definition not piracy. Every target had 24 hours to make themselves immune with a click of a button. Post nerf - many of the very people who bumped up their sec status and stopped pirating to come join us for honest killing. Have gone back to pirating. The nerfing of the privateers - increased piracy. The privateer alliance decreased it. SKUNK The Privateers war dec'd over 170 alliances and corporations. Are you still contending that they were mostly 0.0 PVP alliances? You say that many of the Privateers were after an 'honest' killing. I was running a mission in Motsu when I was gang-raped by 7+ PA gatecamping a mission system. Is this what you consider an 'honest' killing? Or is it only a blob when the numbers stack against you? After all, you claim this is why you're not in 0.0, right? You say that now the poor Privateers are going back to pirating because there just isn't anything fun to do. But wait, on this same thread another privateer states there are no pirates to PVP with. That makes sense . And of course, there aren't any pirates in low sec either, right? There are low sec systems where every time I set foot I'm being hunted down by pirates. Ah yes, but I must warn you, they fight back. And I have yet to see someone from the Privateers provide an excuse as to why not split the PA into factions and war-dec each other. And I suspect it will still go unanswered while someone cooks up a somewhat believable response. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Dread Operative Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.09 19:29:00 - [42] Quote: CCP stole my fun, what to do now Steal it back.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:03:00 - [43] Originally by: Dread Operative Quote: CCP stole my fun, what to do now Steal it back. What do you think we're trying to do? Whining on the forums creates results. Carebears whine on the forums, ccp nerfs Pvpers. Pvpers whine on the forums, ccp nerfs Carebears. It's a never-ending cycle.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:05:00 - [44] Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/05/2007 20:02:41 Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Le Skunk ...Also we didnt pirate. Shooting a war target is by definition not piracy. Every target had 24 hours to make themselves immune with a click of a button. Post nerf - many of the very people who bumped up their sec status and stopped pirating to come join us for honest killing. Have gone back to pirating. The nerfing of the privateers - increased piracy. The privateer alliance decreased it. SKUNK The Privateers war dec'd over 170 alliances and corporations. Are you still contending that they were mostly 0.0 PVP alliances? You say that many of the Privateers were after an 'honest' killing. I was running a mission in Motsu when I was gang-raped by 7+ PA gatecamping a mission system. Is this what you consider an 'honest' killing? Or is it only a blob when the numbers stack against you? After all, you claim this is why you're not in 0.0, right? You say that now the poor Privateers are going back to pirating because there just isn't anything fun to do. But wait, on this same thread another privateer states there are no pirates to PVP with. That makes sense . And of course, there aren't any pirates in low sec either, right? There are low sec systems where every time I set foot I'm being hunted down by pirates. Ah yes, but I must warn you, they fight back. And I have yet to see someone from the Privateers provide an excuse as to why not split the PA into factions and war-dec each other. And I suspect it will still go unanswered while someone cooks up a somewhat believable response. Ok so now we know why you hate us. You died - Get over it. Motsu is a lag hole - we did everyone a favour gettgin one mission runner out of it :) We podded 10% of the player base - are you suprised we got nerfed when people take it to heart like you. Seriously though some killed mission runners for isk. We were alwasy outnumbered and lsot a lot of ships - which had to be replaced. You had 24 hours to make yourself invunerable - you did not do so, so it was left up to your alliance/corp to protect you. They did not do so. So it was left to you to protect youself with simple steps. you did not do so. So you popped - only yourself to blame. As to why not split the PA into factions and shoot each other. Nobody has responded because its self evidentaly a stupid idea for many reasons. Your laboring under the idea we all want queensbury rules fighting for the hell of it. The privateer alliance was set up to decpeople who withold resources from the general populace/smack talk/ore thief/loot thief etc. Seeking to stand up for the little man/ pull the big man down a peg or two. For the chance of getting rich - reappropriating some of their ill gotten gains. To shake your fist at the rest of the galaxy and say come and have a go at us - we dont play by your poxy rules.(And get plenty of shooty shooty at the same time). Your suggestion to turn on each other like some PVE mission you obviously run all day long shows that STILL after 1001 threads you dont get it SKUNK
Varheg Xan Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:14:00 - [45] Small gang operations in 0.0 are still very viable. Form up a group and just go raiding, killing anyone you come across. It takes time to form up a capital fleet, or even a defence fleet of any size. If you are patient and a good hunter you will find prey. Might I suggest Geminate? Once you get past the BWF bubble (if there is one) you can find plenty of Smash carebears to fight. Response time from the defense fleet can vary the farther you get from TDE. Smash shoots everyone so you will have some opponent eventually. I've heard Syndicate is also pretty fun and "Wild West" but it's been a while since I've been there.
Raoden Tanstaafl Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:26:00 - [46] CCP stole your fun?, but what about all the fun your Alliance stole from other players by wardeccing everyone? Oh, I see... it's ok for you to steal everybody elses fun, but your fun isn't fair game at all... Ah, I understand now... another self-righetous, pompous Privateer whiner...
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:30:00 - [47] Originally by: Raoden Tanstaafl CCP stole your fun?, but what about all the fun your Alliance stole from other players by wardeccing everyone? Oh, I see... it's ok for you to steal everybody elses fun, but your fun isn't fair game at all... Ah, I understand now... another self-righetous, pompous Privateer whiner... Wow and they call me bitter ROFL at YOU SKUNK
Pheusia Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:32:00 - [48] Originally by: MrHunter Yeap, privateers - since ccp nurfed the alliance and basically took the last fun thing to do, I dunno what to do now. Don't wanna priate, run missions, get stuck with alliance politics, play pos wars. sigh What is there to do that dosn't force you to sit on eve hours at a time. I liked being able to login, and get some action within half an hour. Perhaps it's time to retire. No you can't have my stuff - get your own. Form a small merc/extortion corp and victimise local industrial corps. Signed, Pheusia
Angellyne	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Le Skunk As to why not split the PA into factions and shoot each other. Nobody has responded because its self evidentaly a stupid idea for many reasons. Your laboring under the idea we all want queensbury rules fighting for the hell of it. The privateer alliance was set up to decpeople who withold resources from the general populace/smack talk/ore thief/loot thief etc. Seeking to stand up for the little man/ pull the big man down a peg or two. For the chance of getting rich - reappropriating some of their ill gotten gains. To shake your fist at the rest of the galaxy and say come and have a go at us - we dont play by your poxy rules.(And get plenty of shooty shooty at the same time). Chance of Privateers being considered the "Robin Hood" of Eve history: roughly zero. First, who is this "general population" you speak of? Everybody you didn't happen to blindly war-dec? Second, PVTRS did plenty of smacktalking & thieving. Granted it was most likely to provoke more wars, but nonetheless trying to claim any high ground there is laughable. Third, you GANKED the little man and RAN from the big man. Who exactly, aside from the "little man" who wanted easy empire ganking action, did PVTRS stand up for? Fourth, "ill gotten" means what to you? Income from any source but a ganked hauler? Unfortunately, CCP didn't also raise the price tag for forum hypocrisy & phony chest-beating.
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.05.09 21:56:00 - [50] Edited by: Kerfira on 09/05/2007 21:57:47 So there are hundreads of ex-privateers bemoaning that they can't get fair and equal fights, and of of.c. they don't like shooting ppl who don't know how to defend themselves, and that it was only the bad privateers that did that and the good privateers just want proper 1-on-1's, and now they can't get those because of evil CCP....... There's of.c. an obvious solution to all those hundreds of fair ex-privateers...... Gather in one constellation, all get in gang, and fight... ....or could it be that you're just moaning you get no more free ganks, but disguising it with your 'righteous' arguments??? Edit: I've got no real beef with privateers or war-dec's as such, and if they'd kept their war-dec's to the 0.0 corps/alliances, I don't think they'd been nerfed. However, their wardec's on numerous empire 'carebear' alliances/corps (some of them relatively small ones) threatened the subscriber base (and subscribers ARE what pays for the game after all), so they had to go... As someone said... You pigged at the all-you-can-eat table, so the restaurant took it off the menu..... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 22:26:00 - [51] Edited by: Exlegion on 09/05/2007 22:28:42 Originally by: Le Skunk Ok so now we know why you hate us. You died - Get over it. Motsu is a lag hole - we did everyone a favour gettgin one mission runner out of it :) We podded 10% of the player base - are you suprised we got nerfed when people take it to heart like you. Seriously though some killed mission runners for isk. We were alwasy outnumbered and lsot a lot of ships - which had to be replaced. You had 24 hours to make yourself invunerable - you did not do so, so it was left up to your alliance/corp to protect you. They did not do so. So it was left to you to protect youself with simple steps. you did not do so. So you popped - only yourself to blame. As to why not split the PA into factions and shoot each other. Nobody has responded because its self evidentaly a stupid idea for many reasons. Your laboring under the idea we all want queensbury rules fighting for the hell of it. The privateer alliance was set up to decpeople who withold resources from the general populace/smack talk/ore thief/loot thief etc. Seeking to stand up for the little man/ pull the big man down a peg or two. For the chance of getting rich - reappropriating some of their ill gotten gains. To shake your fist at the rest of the galaxy and say come and have a go at us - we dont play by your poxy rules.(And get plenty of shooty shooty at the same time). Your suggestion to turn on each other like some PVE mission you obviously run all day long shows that STILL after 1001 threads you dont get it SKUNK 1) No, I'm not upset about my loss. Everything's been completely replaced. And no, I don't blame the Privateers. I blame myself for the loss. I'm upset because even after weeks the Privateers are STILL WHINING, including yourself on the forums. Clear now? . I swear, the Privateers, for supposedly a bunch of self-proclaimed h4rdc0r3 733T playerz are the whiniest on the forums. And this, sir, is what upsets me. You know when you're at a restaurant trying to have a nice quiet dinner but there's that one obnoxious child kicking and screaming and yelling and crying? Well, there you have it. But, I also understand it's your right to whine . So, please do continue to help yourself. 2) What is it? Are you badass ruthless pirate killers out doing the universe a favor by ridding the missions systems from runners? Or are you the poor PVP players just out for an honest fight? Pick an excuse and stick to it. Then proceed to the forums on your quest for apathy. Atleast then you'll seem genuine. 3) Originally by: Le Skunk The privateer alliance was set up to decpeople who withold resources from the general populace/smack talk/ore thief/loot thief etc. Seeking to stand up for the little man/ pull the big man down a peg or two. Smack? You obviously don't know what goes on with your own alliance. But then, you never claimed the PA was a centralized alliance. No, wait. Yes, you do, but only when it suits to present the 'ideals' of your precious hardcore yet sweet-hearted bunch. Again, pick a side so you don't look so... I'll hold my tongue out of respect . Ah, and the loot thiefs. Were they griefing you? What nerves, eh? . You came to the forums to complain you were being griefed. Remember? Or would you like me to dig up the post for ya? See, the difference between you and me is that I know there's people like you out there eager to ruin people's game. It's why it doesn't bother me. I expect it. You, on the other hand, believe you're the baddest bully in the yard. But when someone comes along to ruin your day you cry like that fat bully kid who's just been slapped in the hand. Another thing. I hadn't brought up my loss to the Privateers until now because it really wasn't a big deal to me. But what ***es me off is that you straight up lie in the forums telling players that you're in high sec to 'fight the good fight.' But only when it suits you to say so. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us.* - Guru
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 22:43:00 - [52] Edited by: Exlegion on 09/05/2007 22:41:49 On to 4) Stupid idea to split the alliance? Let's see, it seems that almost on a daily basis Privateers (including yourself) complain that Eve just isn't fun anymore because you can't find 'decent' fights. People suggest on how to create PVP to try and get you off your poor depression but, no. Because now your excuse is that your goal is for economic riches, vindictive, and whatever else you said. So are we back to the alliance train-of-thought that you abandoned some posts above? . If you were genuine in your whines I'd have some sympathy for you. But you're not. So I have none to offer you. You seriously need to sit down and develop ideals and convictions before you write your stuff up. Because at this point it's just a bunch of nonsense excuses. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 23:48:00 - [53] Originally by: Angellyne Originally by: Le Skunk As to why not split the PA into factions and shoot each other. Nobody has responded because its self evidentaly a stupid idea for many reasons. Your laboring under the idea we all want queensbury rules fighting for the hell of it. The privateer alliance was set up to decpeople who withold resources from the general populace/smack talk/ore thief/loot thief etc. Seeking to stand up for the little man/ pull the big man down a peg or two. For the chance of getting rich - reappropriating some of their ill gotten gains. To shake your fist at the rest of the galaxy and say come and have a go at us - we dont play by your poxy rules.(And get plenty of shooty shooty at the same time). Chance of Privateers being considered the "Robin Hood" of Eve history: roughly zero. First, who is this "general population" you speak of? Everybody you didn't happen to blindly war-dec? Second, PVTRS did plenty of smacktalking & thieving. Granted it was most likely to provoke more wars, but nonetheless trying to claim any high ground there is laughable. Third, you GANKED the little man and RAN from the big man. Who exactly, aside from the "little man" who wanted easy empire ganking action, did PVTRS stand up for? Fourth, "ill gotten" means what to you? Income from any source but a ganked hauler? Unfortunately, CCP didn't also raise the price tag for forum hypocrisy & phony chest-beating. Yes we did stand up for the little man. We provided the only way a little man could get back at a bigger opponent who was bullying him affordably. The ONLY reason small corps were wardeced was because someone had paid us to do it. 99% of the time this payment came with a story. Normally they were being bullied by a slighty bigger corp. Below is an example - one I kept - I recieved many such mails: "I read the contract ammount was 50 mil but I put in 75mil to war dec ******** I think you had a great idea, thanks for this. We don't have the people or ships to fight back against that corp. thank you so much" We also provided free war decs upon occasion where we saw a noob treated badly It just simply dosent make sense for us to wardec a small corp when we could wardec "something bigger with more people to shoot at". We had no beef with small corps - and in fact retracted a war dec a couple of times after they had apologised for loothiefing/smack talk etc. I can dig you out a thread if i need to. Of course - occasionaly we were used by nefarious types - but after hundereds of convos - you quikcly learn who is in need and who is the bull**ter. Since we were nerfed ive STILL had convos/mails from little corps who are being bullied and need help - but we are powerless to help them. CCP made it easy for people to grief little corps - by removing their only defence - The Privateer Alliances ability to assist. I feel bad when I have to turn them away - and they all curse CCPs bad judgement on this point. They also normally have a choic word for the so called 'carebears' who cared about them so much - that they left they high and dry and wont lift a finger to help them. SKUNK
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 00:05:00 - [54] Originally by: Exlegion 1) I'm upset because even after weeks the Privateers are STILL WHINING, including yourself on the forums. Clear now? . You neglect to see how everything you post is a whine. Sure im not letting people get away with ignorant whine posts without saying something. Also - if someone has posted soemthing aimed at me - It would be rude not to respond Originally by: Exlegion I swear, the Privateers, for supposedly a bunch of self-proclaimed h4rdc0r3 733T playerz This hasnt been claimed. We accepted all types. We did have some of the badest pvper's in the game - as those who fought us commented. We also had a bunch of noobs who regually got pwned. I lost 140 ships myself. I wouldnt call myself 'elite' by any stretch of the mark. Though we all got better, and indeed have had more experience of Empire Wars then any other alliance I would posit. Originally by: Exlegion 2) What is it? Are you badass ruthless pirate killers out doing the universe a favor by ridding the missions systems from runners? Or are you the poor PVP players just out for an honest fight? Well as you know rightly, I was a little tongue in cheek when I reffered to the motsu lag. As i said then - some of the corps in the alliance took a more 'unscrouplous' path to their activites. Others were highly honourable. Me personally - if something red came in front of me I would shoot it. Whether I be outnumbered, in a gank squad, whether it was a faction BS or a lowley hauler. This is why you are confused about us I think - we dont fit your blinkered black and white view of the galaxy. Our memeber corps motives for joining us were varied - as were their actions under our banner. Im explaining to you why the corp and alliance was set up - not why our individual corps chose to act. Originally by: Exlegion Ah, and the loot thiefs. Were they griefing you? What nerves, eh? . You came to the forums to complain you were being griefed. But when someone comes along to ruin your day you cry like that fat bully kid who's just been slapped in the hand. I have actualy stated in the past - Whilst I believe the mechanics on can rights are bust - I admire the loot thieves for trying to defeat us ingame by cutting off our income. If a real noob chance upon a wreck and ran off with a 10mill isk item - i would salute them. Bet it was a real buzz. But in fact - most were alts of rich players who would be sat mining in the same system with their main. People whitter on about our "Risk v Reward" well they had no risk and plenty of reward - but CCP passed over their golden rule in this case. They at least tried to defeat us 'ingame' instead of whining and whining and whining and whining to mother CCP untill they got their way. Its happening right now on different acitivites in differnt threads. The whiners make me sick. Originally by: Exlegion Another thing. I hadn't brought up my loss to the Privateers until now because it really wasn't a big deal to me. It onviously did. The real reason you didnt bring it up is because you wanted to look impartial in you muck thorowing when in fact your down right biased - and filled with bitter rage, and totaly unqualified to make an unbiased assesment. SKUNK
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 00:33:00 - [55] Edited by: Exlegion on 10/05/2007 00:34:45 Privateers = "We don't like 0.0 because of blob warfares" Me = "Bull***". [I give example]. Privateers = "AHA! That's why you hate us. Get over it!" Me = "WTF?" Avoiding anything? Even before my loss to your gank I've held the same beliefs about the Privateers. Look it up. Funny that when someone's been killed by the Privateers they're just angry but when they haven't they don't know what they're talking about. I only brought it up as an example. It's not the first time I've lost a ship to PVP. And the losses were minimal. I'm a filthy rich mission runner, remember? . It's difficult not to comment on your sobbing in the forums while you're straight up lying. THAT hypocrisy is what's unsettling. And now you accuse me of whining? Privateers = "Eve stole my fun " Me = "Stop whining already" Privateers = "You're the one whining" Priceless Anyway, as I said before, It's your right so go on ahead. It's just ironic to see what are supposed to be hardcore tough pirates sobbing. You could learn a few things from Veto, MC or other respected PVPers . You give them a bad name. Nothing wrong with being a . Just have some self-respect and dignity. Lofty, Ginger, and now Privateers. All self-proclaimed. All shed many tears in the forums. Just too damn weird . One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us.* - Guru
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 00:44:00 - [56] Originally by: Exlegion Privateers = "We don't like 0.0 because of blob warfares" Me = "Bull**". [I give example]. Privateers = "AHA! That's why you hate us. Get over it!" Me = "WTF?" Avoiding anything? Even before my loss to your gank I've held the same beliefs about the Privateers. Look it up. Funny that when someone's been killed by the Privateers they're just angry but when they haven't they don't know what they're talking about. I only brought it up as an example. It's not the first time I've lost a ship to PVP. And the losses were minimal. I'm a filthy rich mission runner, remember? . It's difficult not to comment on your sobbing in the forums while you're straight up lying. THAT hypocrisy is what's unsettling. And now you accuse me of whining? Privateers = "Eve stole my fun " Me = "Stop whining already" Privateers = "You're the one whining" Priceless Anyway, as I said before, It's your right so go on ahead. It's just ironic to see what are supposed to be hardcore tough pirates sobbing. You could learn a few things from Veto or other respected PVPers . You give them a bad name. Lofty, Ginger, and now Privateers. All self-proclaimed. All shed many tears in the forums. Just too damn weird . Ahh your 14 hour long posts have been defeated. Now for the snappy one liners. Ill kill them off with snappy one liners to :) You said: Privateers = "We don't like 0.0 because of blob warfares" Truth: Many privaters posted that they didnt like fighing in 0.0 beacuse of blob warfare, AND cap ships, fleet commanders telling them to STFU, boring Pos bombardments, Snipathons, Bubbles, Titan Bowling (new one) You said: Privateers = "Eve stole my fun Crying or Very sad" Me = "Stop whining already" Privateers = "You're the one whining" TRUTH: A privateer posted = "Eve stole my fun Crying or Very sad" You posted = "bunch of bigoted carebear filth" I posted = "your the one whining" Quote: It's just ironic to see what are supposed to be hardcore tough pirates sobbing We aint pirates - we are privateers. I never said we were hardcore AS i outlined in the post above me which you chose to ignore. I am not sobbing - mearly smashing you arguments into dust - and seeking to curtail the propoganda efforts of the cowardly mindless carebear. Quote:** You could learn a few things from Veto or other respected PVPers Wink. You give them a bad name. As i said in my post above which you chose to ignore AGAIN. Some of our corps are respected PvPers - others are noobs - others are pirates. Your inabilty to think beyond simple black and white is severly stunting your forum potential As is your inabilty to forget the rage you felt when your poor little raven was blwown up by the nwasty pweople SKUNK
Snacky Treets	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:05:00 - [57] Boy have you guys ever come to the wrong place for sympathy. Whose opinion did you come on here thinking you would influence? The Privateers were universally reviled. Nobody outside of the alliance ever liked it. Seriously, did you come on here and post thinking that the population of Eve would think 'Hmmm, maybe they're right. The Privateers really were there to help the little guy. All those times they ganked me 12 vs. 1 or blew up my hauler with three battleships, that totally helped me get back at the other pirates who blew me up last week." Eve has about a million ways to fight other players... if you can't figure it out, tough beans. Funny, when someone would come on here complaining about having the ship they saved up for a month to buy blown out from under them when they had no desire to fight you, the Privateers were always full of constructive advice. Luckily, it works equally well in the other direction: 1. Learn to play, nublet 2. It was your own fault 3. Why don't you go back to World of Warcraft 4. This isn't the game for you, you might as well quit
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:14:00 - [58] Edited by: Le Skunk on 10/05/2007 01:11:54 Originally by: Snacky Treets Boy have you guys ever come to the wrong place for sympathy. Whose opinion did you come on here thinking you would influence? The Privateers were universally reviled. Nobody outside of the alliance ever liked it. Seriously, did you come on here and post thinking that the population of Eve would think 'Hmmm, maybe they're right. The Privateers really were there to help the little guy. All those times they ganked me 12 vs. 1 or blew up my hauler with three battleships, that totally helped me get back at the other pirates who blew me up last week." Eve has about a million ways to fight other players... if you can't figure it out, tough beans. Funny, when someone would come on here complaining about having the ship they saved up for a month to buy blown out from under them when they had no desire to fight you, the Privateers were always full of constructive advice. Luckily, it works equally well in the other direction: 1. Learn to play, nublet 2. It was your own fault 3. Why don't you go back to World of Warcraft 4. This isn't the game for you, you might as well quit DOING - heres another one. The OP posted a 'what is fun to do' slightly tongue in cheek post. He recieved some viable answers. Then the carebears piped in with their lies and decipt - so I corrected them. The OP is at liberty to say what he wished. I mearly crushed a few of the oft repeated fallacys about what went on. And yup - we did help the little man - we only decced small corps who were griefing someone else via contract. I personally took a keen intest in how their money was spent - indeed I often flew to the defense of these corps when convod with specific intel. You are obviosuly reffering to the little man who joins the big alliance - in order to achieve maxiumum profit, for access to 0.0 space, for a prestigous 'ticker', for self gain. He found his alliance mates did not lift a finger to help him. I have no qualms about the destruction of Enemy Alliance ships at any time, at any place. I got Over 500 myself. SKUNK
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:18:00 - [59] Le Skunk, I think by now it's obvious that the one with rage issues is you. You bash carebears, mission runners, and whatever else doesn't suit your style of play. Your own alliance looks for ways to abuse mechanics, disrupt, and bring grief to those that you hate. I guess it's what makes you tickle. Fine by me. War dec prices were fixed and you come and flame carebears and whine on how unfair the fix was and how it's now all doom and gloom. Three weeks later, Eve goes on business as usual, yet you're still here cursing at the carebears and dishing out what you think are 'intelligent' insults towards those that you hate. You're no longer able to hold 170+ wars and you're bitter. Yet you try to portray me like the one that's bitter because I lost my ship? My friend, let it go, seriously. Yes, your high sec killing spree is over. But you can still war dec, can't you? If this game isn't doing it for you anymore, then take a break for a little bit. But seriously, your anger and hipocrisy are shining through like Skyflyer's eye balls are shining through his face. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:24:00 - [60] Edited by: Le Skunk on 10/05/2007 01:24:01 Originally by: Exlegion Le Skunk, I think by now it's obvious that the one with rage issues is you. You bash carebears, mission runners, and whatever else doesn't suit your style of play. Your own alliance looks for ways to abuse mechanics, disrupt, and bring grief to those that you hate. I guess it's what makes you tickle. Fine by me. War dec prices were fixed and you come and flame carebears and whine on how unfair the fix was and how it's now all doom and gloom. Three weeks later, Eve goes on business as usual, yet you're still here cursing at the carebears and dishing out what you think are 'intelligent' insults towards those that you hate. You're no longer able to hold 170+ wars and you're bitter. Yet you try to portray me like the one that's bitter because I lost my ship? My friend, let it go, seriously. Yes, your high sec killing spree is over. But you can still war dec, can't you? If this game isn't doing it for you anymore, then take a break for a little bit. But seriously, your anger and hipocrisy are shining through like Skyflyer's eye balls are shining through his face. And now we have the - 4) escape from argument post. 1) Post a quick post mouthing off - Be told you are wrong 2) Post a mulit-post specifics of why you are right - Be shown specificaly why you are wrong 3) Post a quick one liner style post in a last ditch attemp to score soem points - Be shown why you are repeating yourself and why your one liners are wrong 4) Post the obligatory "i dont care any more" general style post in an atempt to leave with some dignity. Very well - vamoosh if you must. Please dont post something scathing or contraversial in future if you do not want it addressed. This isnt a toilet door wall where you can scrawl something then never return. You raise some points, someone mayhave issues with them. Dont play the - your ranting at the walls - approach. I was responding to your posts. Ive said before I understand all about the nerf. It people said "Hiterler was a woman" would you expect anyone who disagreed to say "Ah well its in the past so I wont correct him"? If you cant take it...... guess what DONT POST SKUNK
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:39:00 - [61] Edited by: Exlegion on 10/05/2007 11:35:09 Edited by: Exlegion on 10/05/2007 01:38:45 Originally by: Le Skunk And now we have the - 4) escape from argument post. 1) Post a quick post mouthing off - Be told you are wrong 2) Post a mulit-post specifics of why you are right - Be shown specificaly why you are wrong 3) Post a quick one liner style post in a last ditch attemp to score soem points - Be shown why you are repeating yourself and why your one liners are wrong 4) Post the obligatory "i dont care any more" general style post in an atempt to leave with some dignity. Very well - vamoosh if you must. Please dont post something scathing or contraversial in future if you do not want it addressed. This isnt a toilet door wall where you can scrawl something then never return. You raise some points, someone mayhave issues with them. Dont play the - your ranting at the walls - approach. I was responding to your posts. Ive said before I understand all about the nerf. It people said "Hiterler was a woman" would you expect anyone who disagreed to say "Ah well its in the past so I wont correct him"? If you cant take it...... guess what DONT POST SKUNK My man, what the **** are you smoking? Check my posts, they're all about the same size if you take out your own quotes . I guess, you can count this as the 5) one-liner-one-liner then? . Anyway, I'm off to bed. But I'll continue reading tomorrow, so keep at it. PS, just so you don't go about posting foolishness about MY convictions, I stand by every word I've said about you and the Privateers, irregardless of what you say while I'm sleeping, m'kay? . Buhbye. Edit: Where have I said I don't care anymore? . Jeez, you keep switching topics around. And you've proven me wrong? Dude, I'll see ya tomorrow . Edit 2: I see you're done here. Let me give you some of the same advice you gave those you despise: Go back to WoW, noob. Good riddance. Peace. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.05.10 13:59:00 - [62] Well tbh I could see the end of privateers coming a long way off.There was no way that you could be at war with the whole of eve and camp jita station 24/7 killing haulers on a black screen.That was just an abuse of the mechanics. They actually first nerfed wars when I was owning the entire Curse Alliance solo and you could war dec an alliance for 2mill a week back in 2004.Alliance bears whined so much about it that they changed alliance war cost to 50mill a week and that was it for small corps.Privateers merely implemented the same version of that in 2007 where 50mill is the equivalent of 2mill back then. Snowy has already recruited some ex-privateers to its ranks who found that low sec piracy was even more fun than hisec warring.We are recruiting atm. Snowy are recruiting.Join channel '0CTOBERSNOW' ingame (zero not letter) Buying a NYX-mail me inga
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 22:03:00 - [63] Heh, at this point I honestly believe Le Skunk and company can actually learn a thing or two from you. How weird. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Rhynic Ju'ain	Posted - 2007.05.11 00:19:00 - [64] I've never heard of the Privateers before. I played this game once at release, a few times in between then and now on the trial, but I've finally subscribed (later tonight, actually) and succumbed to EVE - I love this game. Having said that: From what I have gathered throughout these posts, it seems to me that the Privateers were a mass of people looking for as many targets as possible for PvP instead of having to seek them out in lower security space. These targets, as Le Skunk has said... "...if something red came in front of me I would shoot it. Whether I be outnumbered, in a gank squad, whether it was a faction BS or a lowley hauler." ...seemed to have little choice in their selection. I constantly hear the reason of 'championing the cause of the little guy' thrown about in this topic too, by past Privateers...well, mainly Le Skunk. While I do not doubt that the Privateers took in those pleads, they seem to be an excuse to declare even more war - to light up more targets for themselves - rather than to protect any smaller corporations. Neither do I hold any disbelief for the Privateers' "undeclaring" war on corporations that requested it - I'm sure it feels awful good to have someone groveling at their feet and pleading for mercy. With 170+ war declarations (or so I've read) under their belt, I seriously doubt the Privateers' target range would be impacted at all, and I'm quite sure they knew this themselves. I am also confident that (hypothetically of course) if all of the coporations the Privateers had declared war on pleaded for a cease fire, that they would not honor or acknowledge all requests. It seems that the Privateers' main goal is/was PvP anywhere, anytime; any other reasons thrown out front is just an excuse. While there is no doubt in my mind that those excuses may hold a grain of truth, they are still excuses none the less. If the old members of the Privateers truly cared for PvP in as many locations as possible and as many times as possible, then they would work around the current issue. As it has been said numerous times, all of the Privateers should get together and form several corporations that declare war amongst themselves. If it is too hard to find PvP in all of empire space, confine your "PvP zones" to a few systems in empire space that your members can prowl about in instead of the entire galaxy. This system would work, and the only reason that I can think of for its delay in formation is the same reason that past Privateers continue to complain about the new change instead of collectively working towards a means to achieve their goal: laziness.
bellator militaris	Posted - 2007.05.11 07:46:00 - [65] Edited by: bellator militaris on 11/05/2007 07:43:13 Mr.Hunter, can I have your stuff?
Tony 2fingers	Posted - 2007.09.29 16:28:00 - [66] Sadly, this topic will never be agreed upon. PA refuses to admit or see that they did exactly what they claim they hated 0.0 for BLOB warfare,indiscriminately killing anyone and anything through the use of a game mechanic which was never intended to be used this way. PA refuses to admit that the majority of there Experienced PVPrs, were new players in new corps. The rest of EVE will never admit that in PA eyes, what they do is fun and don't understand why we don't see it there way While EVE presents the chance to enjoy a open ended game like no other before it, people will continue to screw it up with there ME ME ME attitude, instead of trying to make it better for all. While these are solely my opinions, i think a few others may agree
Kyrall Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.29 16:41:00 - [67] Mmmm brains? - Take another step back until you find you've walked away...
Nicocat Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.29 16:47:00 - [68] And here I thought this was a new thread about whining over Privateers. Can't decide which is more pathetic, a new one or a necro. ---------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!

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