How? Understanding the market and lots of research ... if you are too lazy, bad luck.

But do you mine your materials or buy it? and how do you know which product to sell

T1 manufacturing is worth doing.

However it is not worth doing the items you have chosen

... not all decisions you make guarantee a positive return on investment.

Oh yea, I cant seem to notice but i have the slightest feeling, there's some kinda hate, towards my "to lazy to search" excerpt, so i shrugged that off

Hey, was thinking about t1 manufacturing, but virtually every blueprint i see apparently has profit of 1-5k isk max MOST TIMES .

So i was wondering, those that say manufacturing is lucrative, how do you make money of off it

If you have any links you can point me too, would be nice

Thanks

Hate, no. Frustration, yes.

I've been posting heavily on these forums for years. Helping everyone I can, even those too lazy to search. I've probably addressed every possible question multiple times. It does get a little tedious at times, though.

Those that start with, "I just want to make some ISK. I'm too lazy to search myself, and I heard industry was perfect fit for lazy people", easily earn my ire.
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Plenty of profit in T1.

I've been at this about two years.

I have about 75 BPOs. I've retired about 25 of them. Some will be retired for me when POS's are gone.

Of the remaining, I am not building all of them all the time.

I'm in solid 10 figures per month profit on an average of 7 hours per week game time

One example: I spent the 'exorbitant" amount of patience and time researching an item to ME10. I've seen any number of BPOs of it on the market at < ME10. It took perhaps a year for it to become profitable and now....joyous good news.

I'm playing the long game and having a riot doing it.

Confirming Holgrack's comments and insights.

If you are talking about items where ME 10 is an enormous amount of research, I often find there is more profit in reselling the ME 10 BPO, and reseraching a new one...

How? Understanding the market and lots of research ... if you are too lazy, bad luck.

First question to ask is "are there meta versions of this module that drop as mission loot?" If the answer is yes, the only purpose for the T1 module will be as input for the T2 manufacturing process. The meta versions are better and often cheaper than player built T1.

A second question to ask "is this consumable?" Stuff in Eve doesn't wear out or go obsolete.

T1 rigs are easy to make, 1 time use (you can't unfit them) and a lot of them are quite profitable. You're better off as a small producer since you can purchase small lots of salvage at backwater stations at a lower cost than buying from aggregators in trade hubs.

Containers and deployables like Mobile Depot are usually profitable so are some ammunition and charges.

Use a tool like https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/ to investigate products you're interested in.

Once you've made something, you need to pick a trade hub and sell it. Immediate sales to buy orders are convenient but not profitable (at least for the seller). You need to create a sell order and manage it. In general, the more steps in the value chain you participate in, the better your profit margins will be.

The important thing to remember is that Eve is a game, if you're enjoying yourself it really doesn't matter how much ISK you're making.

I feel that "understanding the market and lots of research" means a **** ton of invested time and effort. Some of us have lives, so I feel it's not 100% accurate/fair to say "too lazy, bad luck". You also need to understand more than one market/item at a time to make any real isk. You also need a nice bankroll to stockpile for when those particular items drop below a nice profit window/price. You also need to know people and source your materials wisely. All of that requires a lot of time and effort yes, and, again, some of us have lives outside of eve. I'm also pretty sure you didn't just acquire your knowledge over night or even a couple of weeks for that matter. Probably spent a considerable amount of hours researching. So it might be true in some cases that people are lazy, but most of the time, people have better **** to do with their time than sit in eve to monitor markets.

Sometimes I feel there is an unlimited sink of BPOs somewhere ... I made xx billions selling even unresearched BPOs at markup and the demand does not seem to decrease.

Tipa,

Funny you should mention this....i was mulling this over on my commute this morning. Surely, in a game where there are not thousands of new subscribers every month that the market is surely saturated with, say, Orca BPOs at 10/20?

We know where Orca BPOs come from......but where do they go when they, 'pass away'?

I feel that "understanding the market and lots of research" means a **** ton of invested time and effort. Some of us have lives, so I feel it's not 100% accurate/fair to say "too lazy, bad luck". You also need to understand more than one market/item at a time to make any real isk. You also need a nice bankroll to stockpile for when those particular items drop below a nice profit window/price. You also need to know people and source your materials wisely. All of that requires a lot of time and effort yes, and, again, some of us have lives outside of eve. I'm also pretty sure you didn't just acquire your knowledge over night or even a couple of weeks for that matter. Probably spent a considerable amount of hours researching. So it might be true in some cases that people are lazy, but most of the time, people have better **** to do with their time than sit in eve to monitor markets.