Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.05.06 16:21:12 -
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Bran Kignol wrote:I'm very intrigued by all this...
I'm curious to understand, from your point of view, what's the utility to put a group on a terrorist list for a state if this same state doesn't consider it dangerous to itself ?
Could you give us a fully detailed definition, for you (if not the official one), of what is a "terror activity" and the difference with a "criminal activity" ?
Why states (not just Caldari State) declare some group as terrorists ?
How would you consider this same group if they weren't Caldari ?
I can't really speak for Ms. Kim, but, here's a bit of a rundown. Her answers are likely to differ a bit....
The Templis Dragonaurs are definitely a danger to the Caldari State, and more particularly to foreign and client communities within the State. They've proven their willingness to go to war against State forces to try to purge communities they consider unwelcome. (E.g., the Waschi Uprising.)
Terrorism is a tactic (that's usually criminal), using violent and frightening acts to draw attention to some type of cause and/or issue. It's typically described as "propaganda by deed." Criminal activity is just illegal activity defined as crime by local authorities.
State actors typically declare particular groups "terrorists" to single them out for special, and especially aggressive, attention. Sometimes this might not be deserved. Sometimes it really, really is.
If the Templis weren't Caldari, they'd still be ethno-nationalist extremists.
Quote:Why the State is considering them terrorist for so many decades (contrary to sayings that tend to forget that they have never been striken off the terrorist list even during Heth years) and why it has been reaffirmed as such recently (by the full CEP, implying that patriots decided they were dangerous to the State) ?
In State organigram of armed forces, where do you place them ? Are they legal ? If legal why are they on terrorist list ?
Do you have terrorists from other groups in your crew ? Being a terrorist from any group is a prerequisite to join your crew or do you only accept Dragonaurs ? Do you accept also non-terrorists in your crew ?
They've got history in the State dating all the way back to the breakout of the original war of secession. Aside from being the people who bombed Nouvelle Rouvenor, they turned on the State and its Intaki allies during the Waschi Uprising and have continued up through the present day with Tibus Heth's short-lived regime. They fell into bad (or worse) odor with the State, which had kind of turning a blind eye under Heth, after Heth failed in an attempt to seize even greater power and ended up being removed as Executor, then trying to lead a revolt to reclaim power from the CEP.
In other words, they were a little quiet while they were getting their way but once they started losing the guns came out and it became policy to shoot them again.
They're not part of the State armed forces except sneakily. They're mostly a secret society that occasionally breaks into the open. They're not a legal entity.
And I kind of doubt that Ms. Kim recognizes much truth in most of what I just said; she might have been unwilling to concede that she had any terrorists on her crew at all, up to now. |