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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3491
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:40:58 -
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Good to see you're still keeping track of the idiocy around here, Samira (my own included). |
Grash Uriza
Viziam Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:55:19 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:I do have to wonder where the Puritans were for the last eight years. Of course, I suppose it's easier to stomach an allegedly illegitimate empress when she was on your side of the militant ideology.
Divine miracles happen. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:58:01 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Meanwhile, pompous blood-drinking man-butchers will never hold an ounce of sympathy from me. Especially this one, since she seems to enjoy hiding behind broken laws, false-senses of victim-hood, and her own crews as she uses their 'innocent' deaths in her service to garner pity from the fools here on the IGS. Congratulations, you've learned how to use human shields. How unimpressive.
A blooder is a criminal. Any who serves one is an accomplice. Tell your crews to not expect mercy for their foolishness.
No honor for the honorless, No mercy for the merciless.
Alas a pot calling the kettle black. Though not the kettle you are looking
Actually a child playing upon old holoreels of when i was in Bloodveil or the Dark Seraph. I can be responsible for those actions. but you have made some statements to the effect that.
Show me where I have butchered men. surely with all your bravado you have evidence of this. Show me where I have committed heinous crimes such as mass murders and torture on a grand scale.
Show us all... where I have done these things. Prove that I am the monster you say I am.
Show me the warrant for my arrest to the Theology Council. As Holder I have that right. I dare you.
PIE's proclamation of implies all these acts and yet has shown that is none.
Instead whose organization sided with known terrorists in the last 24 hours at the needling on its Fleet Commanders. And it's commanders expressing admiration for system of law that is broken.
Your words not mine.
You have taken pride in hiding behind Holy Writ and Righteous indignation to the point you are blind with your self glory. If I recall my Holy Scriptures and I do. This is the hubris that I speak of.
I reminds me a Matari parable too. The mountain and the rock. Much wisdom there.
For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.
You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it.
Supporting a Terrorist organization because they "shamed" to the morally right thing means YOU ARE THE ACCOMPLICE doesn't matter if you are war with them.
PIE has made the wrong choice in a long line of wrong choices.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1636
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:12:31 -
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Child, you are doing yourself no favors trying to make Aldieboo and his people look like they're 'siding with a Terrorist organization'. If you haven't noticed, they're at war with these people. A legal one, just like the one against you and yours. Their loyalties are probably the least questionable ones of the entire Imperial side of things.
You on the other hand subscribe to what is possibly the most repulsive heretical faith the Empire acknowledges, which quite effectively aligns you with outright enemies of the Empire. You have no Holdership or noble claim at this point, I'm willing to bet my Hel on it. I'm more likely to own Holdings in the Empire than you.
You made your choices, and you're frankly a disgrace to both your faith and theirs if you try to weedle yourself out of it by playing the victim. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2981
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:17:26 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it.
Quote:From: CONCORD Sent: 2017.05.09 01:05
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has declared war on Sanguine Illuminations. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Good thing we've got that squared away. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:45:06 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Child, you are doing yourself no favors trying to make Aldieboo and his people look like they're 'siding with a Terrorist organization'. If you haven't noticed, they're at war with these people. A legal one, just like the one against you and yours. Their loyalties are probably the least questionable ones of the entire Imperial side of things.
You on the other hand subscribe to what is possibly the most repulsive heretical faith the Empire acknowledges, which quite effectively aligns you with outright enemies of the Empire. You have no Holdership or noble claim at this point, I'm willing to bet my Hel on it. I'm more likely to own Holdings in the Empire than you.
You made your choices, and you're frankly a disgrace to both your faith and theirs if you try to weedle yourself out of it by playing the victim.
Yes it does seem to be that way doesn't it?
I have not retreated from my decisions. I have stood by them. I have led crews in the battle and won and lost them.
And I am certainly no victim.
And yes I am Heretic. Again I make no illusions of this.
I not the one who is starting this war. My choice in religion should have no bearing on this. It's a petty excuse. They don't even have the decency to come after me personally. Rather they will come in our systems and gank a miner trying to make ISK.
My legal status should had me in jail. I should not be access Imperial Agents but I do.
Those along many other aspects of Imperial life are still available to me without impunity. Thus whether PIE agrees with it or not. I can still assist the Empire.
Purity of the Throne is a terrorist organization. The took up the sword against their legitimate Empress, called her Udorian and impure and decided to that only True Amarrs to sit on the throne subject to their standards. All because their Heir lost fairly.
It's not the fact they war with the Purtains as well. But instead why they went to war with us and why no other corp has not. Because of me.
I'm not the victim, I'm the target. I am the example PIE wants to make because they want me to be this evil Sani Sabik that they have dreamed up.
Just remember Miz, as Matari you as much a target as I am. They just need an excuse and not a very good one. These are the same people who want the Reclamation to begin in earnest.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:45:26 -
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Okay. I was, you know, gonna say 'I really hate to do this', and 'I didn't want to give you crap over niggling little details', but we all know I'd be lying. The truth is, I'd been holding back on a lot of your other statements because, you know, who isn't guilty of some verbal slips now and again, but now you're getting persnickety over the fine details and points of law and wandering right into the wheelhouse of 'oh my god Arrendis is going to have a field day with this', and really... there's just too much there for me to really even have the time to get into it all to the degree that we all I know I'd want to for a properly brow-beating and excessive argument.
So I'm just gonna go with one tiny little point on one tiny little bit of 'aren't you supposed to know words better?' that I'm pretty sure the people demolishing your bigger stupidity will let slide.
Casserina Leshrac wrote: For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.
com-+plic-+it: (adj) involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.
You cannot be complicit with the law. You would be compliant with the law. To say you are 'complicit' means expressly that you are violating the law. Please stop using words you see on the police procedural holos until you understand what they mean. Thankee. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:45:57 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Casserina Leshrac wrote:You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it. Quote:From: CONCORD Sent: 2017.05.09 01:05
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has declared war on Sanguine Illuminations. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. Good thing we've got that squared away.
Curious... how is this Imperial Law again?
I mean CONCORD doesn't exactly have an issue with my Faith here.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:47:05 -
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Arrendis wrote:Okay. I was, you know, gonna say 'I really hate to do this', and 'I didn't want to give you crap over niggling little details', but we all know I'd be lying. The truth is, I'd been holding back on a lot of your other statements because, you know, who isn't guilty of some verbal slips now and again, but now you're getting persnickety over the fine details and points of law and wandering right into the wheelhouse of 'oh my god Arrendis is going to have a field day with this', and really... there's just too much there for me to really even have the time to get into it all to the degree that we all I know I'd want to for a properly brow-beating and excessive argument. So I'm just gonna go with one tiny little point on one tiny little bit of 'aren't you supposed to know words better?' that I'm pretty sure the people demolishing your bigger stupidity will let slide. Casserina Leshrac wrote: For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.
com-+plic-+it: ( adj) involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing. You cannot be complicit with the law. You would be compliant with the law. To say you are 'complicit' means expressly that you are violating the law. Please stop using words you see on the police procedural holos until you understand what they mean. Thankee.
OK Arrendis.. thanks for the lesson.
I will try do better when not being so passionate.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:47:54 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote: Curious... how is this Imperial Law again?
I mean CONCORD doesn't exactly have an issue with my Faith here.
Because as capsuleers, Imperial Law says you fall under the jurisdiction of CONCORD. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:49:39 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote: I will try do better when not being so passionate.
If your attempted validations of why trading limited warfare in contained theaters for cluster-wide unrestricted warfare was a 'noble cause' are any indications, you'll fail. But here's to hoping. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1638
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:00:44 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Just remember Miz, as Matari you as much a target as I am. They just need an excuse and not a very good one. These are the same people who want the Reclamation to begin in earnest.
... did I really just read this? Are anyone else seeing this? Did I have a damn stroke or something? I can't even... she's... oh spirits below I bloody can't. I'm logging off before I rupture something laughing, because if I were to try and explain to her why this is the funniest thing on the forums right now, it'd lead to a new clone and some memory loss. |
Utari Onzo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1681
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:00:52 -
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Admits to being a Heretic, which is a crime under Imperial law.
Tried to claim Imperial Law as a defence....
Huh?
You realise you're given missions and good standing on the basis of being a competant third party agent for Capsuleer wetwork right, and you're not being thrown into trial because of the complex quasi-sovereign legal status of same said freelance Capsuleers, right? The Empire and its various organisations, like the other factions, always have a need for efficient hands off pilots. This does not a friend to the Empire proper make you.
It's the same damn awkward set of laws and customs that lets any stray heathen, heretic or commoner Capsuleer purchase slaves off the market, despite that also being in contradiction with Imperial dogma. CONCORD laws as applied to Capsuleers does not mean you get to hide behind the curtain of Imperial Law. You, like anyone else, merely has the opportunity to side step them while others continue to do their best to uphold them.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:01:01 -
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Arrendis wrote:Casserina Leshrac wrote: I will try do better when not being so passionate.
If your attempted validations of why trading limited warfare in contained theaters for cluster-wide unrestricted warfare was a 'noble cause' are any indications, you'll fail. But here's to hoping.
I leave that to Faded Light.
This is my baliwick.
I am sick and tired that when some one doesn't like my Faith.
I have committed no real crime. No where else in New Eden is this policy is endorsed.
I get it, CONCORD allows corps to War'Dec so there isn't unrestricted warfare. But at the same time an organization dedicated to fairness for all also can't see that people abuse this system.
Just like PIE blames me for tweaking the law for my own whims.
My people are hard workers. They earn their ISK in compliance with Imperial Law (not CONCORD). Not one of them is Sani Sabik. Just because I don't have the legal right to be Holder. I still understand those responsibilities. And it because of that they can persecute them.
The universe is not fair. But to be certain I will fight that every step of the way.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2066
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:07:46 -
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No more words, my dear. We'll see you soon.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:10:43 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote: ... did I really just read this? Are anyone else seeing this? Did I have a damn stroke or something? I can't even... she's... oh spirits below I bloody can't. I'm logging off before I rupture something laughing, because if I were to try and explain to her why this is the funniest thing on the forums right now, it'd lead to a new clone and some memory loss.
Yeaaaaah.... I got nothin'. |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
911
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:14:26 -
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The only thing these highsec frigate pilots can gain is more people to listen when they speak of their motivations.
Death is all they earned, not a voice.
As strength goes.
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Utari Onzo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1682
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:15:16 -
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To expand on my previous point, Max Singularity had/has perfect standings with the Amarr Empire.
The late Empress Jamyl still called him, despite same said standings.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:18:14 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote: I am sick and tired that when some one doesn't like my Faith.
I have committed no real crime. No where else in New Eden is this policy is endorsed.
See, now that I'll grant you. Guess maybe running an Empire as a religious organization isn't the way to go and be tolerant of deviation from standard, huh? Boo-hoo, you're oppressed. When generations of Matari are no longer slaves, maybe I'll shed a tear for the poor oppressed Blooder who could just freakin' move to the Federation.
Quote: I get it, CONCORD allows corps to War'Dec so there isn't unrestricted warfare. But at the same time an organization dedicated to fairness for all also can't see that people abuse this system.
What ever gave you the idea that CONCORD gives a damn about fairness? They care about order. Keep your head down, and they ignore you. Do something they don't like, they kill your crew and blow up your ship. No trial, no due process, no 'extenuating circumscantes'. No concern for the lives of the crew who don't necessarily know they're about to commit a crime.
CONCORD doesn't care about fairness. They care about power, and getting paid. I'd think you, of all people could understand that whole 'we just care about power' thing.
Quote: My people are hard workers. They earn their ISK in compliance with Imperial Law (not CONCORD).
And now, PIE's gonna kill them, in compliance with both Imperial, and CONCORD law.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3496
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:19:04 -
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Utari Onzo wrote: The late Empress Jamyl still called him out, despite same said standings.
He called her out first. Honestly, I got the whole 'forbidden tempestuous romance' vibe off those two. |
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Utari Onzo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1683
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:30:21 -
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Arrendis wrote:Utari Onzo wrote: The late Empress Jamyl still called him out, despite same said standings.
He called her out first. Honestly, I got the whole 'forbidden tempestuous romance' vibe off those two.
True, but my point regarding our standings listings and what they actually mean still applies.
The amount of work I did for the RSS back when I still held Ishukone citizenship should get me a free pass into a tribe if I followed the logic of wetwork reliability equals explicit support and/or citizenship. Arrendis, we could be brother and sister!
(They do still owe me a few, but obviously I've no interest in collecting)
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3497
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:34:42 -
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Utari Onzo wrote: True, but my point regarding our standings listings and what they actually mean still applies.
The amount of work I did for the RSS back when I still held Ishukone citizenship should get me a free pass into a tribe if I followed the logic of wetwork reliability equals explicit support and/or citizenship. Arrendis, we could be brother and sister!
(They do still owe me a few, but obviously I've no interest in collecting)
Oh, totally. And yeah, I completely get what you mean. Heck, if standings actually meant a damned thing in terms of political influence, I'd be the damned Executor of the State. |
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
178
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:38:25 -
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Arrendis wrote: Oh, totally. And yeah, I completely get what you mean. Heck, if standings actually meant a damned thing in terms of political influence, I'd be the damned Executor of the State.
Do apply for the position! Im imagining how you would look on those fine black leather long uniforms bossing people around. ^^
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3501
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:26:04 -
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Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: Do apply for the position! Im imagining how you would look on those fine black leather long uniforms bossing people around. ^^
That seems inefficient. I usually boss people around naked.
Cuz, you know, pod. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:31:21 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:No more words, my dear. We'll see you soon.
Good my love. I know how I hate to be kept waiting.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3503
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:35:35 -
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And this is where PIE sets up in Force Recons and Stealth Bombers so you can see them in local and get twitchy, but never actually see where they are... while they watch you. Stalking. Waiting. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:35:40 -
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Arrendis wrote:
And now, PIE's gonna kill them, in compliance with both Imperial, and CONCORD law.
PIE can't stop Ilan Andsishapur or Nauplius and they see each other more often than me.
I wouldn't place any bets on them yet.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
162
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:36:40 -
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Arrendis wrote:And this is where PIE sets up in Force Recons and Stealth Bombers so you can see them in local and get twitchy, but never actually see where they are... while they watch you. Stalking. Waiting.
Oh goody. I like intel.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
59
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:39:10 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:I am sick and tired that when some one doesn't like my Faith.
I have committed no real crime.
Your sinful nature is a crime. You flaunt the blasphemous faith that is Sani Sabik and expect any faithful to god to ignore such a grievous sin. You must see now that this will be your undoing.
Others of your twisted faith stand idle in fear of God's wrath. Repent now before you're damned soul is sent to the abyss for eternity. |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
600
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Posted - 2017.05.09 22:44:02 -
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Arrendis wrote:And this is where PIE sets up in Force Recons and Stealth Bombers so you can see them in local and get twitchy, but never actually see where they are... while they watch you. Stalking. Waiting.
That sounds more like 1PG's style.
Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade
Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
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