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Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:44:00 - [1] I would like to see ships built for various roles. Currently Every ship in EVE is a combat ship. Why? I think it would be great if we could have ships that have certain roles and only those roles. For example a mining ship: lot's of turrents but you can't fit weapons, lot's of cargo space, very little armor, really slow (slower than an indy), but a high cap. level. Now apply this same formula to other types of ships. EVE would be a lot better and everyone wouldn't have the same ship. What does everyone think If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.
Huney	Posted - 2004.01.05 16:05:00 - [2] Will never happan.
Durandal	Posted - 2004.01.05 16:17:00 - [3] Quote: I would like to see ships built for various roles. Currently Every ship in EVE is a combat ship. Why? I think it would be great if we could have ships that have certain roles and only those roles. For example a mining ship: lot's of turrents but you can't fit weapons, lot's of cargo space, very little armor, really slow (slower than an indy), but a high cap. level. Now apply this same formula to other types of ships. EVE would be a lot better and everyone wouldn't have the same ship. What does everyone think Might be good to see. Although not all ships are combat exactly....the Apoc is the biggest mining vessel in the game . "Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!"
Kal'rek	Posted - 2004.01.05 16:22:00 - [4] yeah would be good but dont some ships have -60 to miner cap use?? isnt that a mining abbility?
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.01.05 16:30:00 - [5] Well come to think of it the developers are trying to sway it more to that direction, maybe a fix would be miner slots vs. turret slots, but time will tell, maybe more feasible solution to not get flamed and be accused of nerfing bat would be increased tech miners would require insane ammount of CPU, and with new tech, new ships , that would be more like it he. And oh, idea lab.
Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.05 16:57:00 - [6] yeah I was going to put it in idea lab but no one reads that. If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.
ManniXXX	Posted - 2004.01.05 18:40:00 - [7] Please explain to me how an indy is a combat ship.
Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.05 18:54:00 - [8] never said an indy was a combat ship. If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.
Gafton	Posted - 2004.01.05 20:04:00 - [9] Quote: Currently Every ship in EVE is a combat ship. Why? Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead.
Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.05 20:32:00 - [10] OK every ship except indys and shuttles...happy now? My point is still the same why am I mining with a combat ship? The military doesn't use aircraft carriers as cruise ships. If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.

Spokesman	Posted - 2004.01.05 20:54:00 - [11] Quote: I would like to see ships built for various roles. Currently Every ship in EVE is a combat ship. Why? Wouldn't call the Tormentor, Bantam, Heron, Probe, Burst and Imicus really combatships either. Vote now for the chance to see CCP win the "Best Persistent World Online Game" category for Eve Online: The Second Genesis. (Include in your sig!
Spokesman	Posted - 2004.01.05 20:57:00 - [12] Quote: Please explain to me how an indy is a combat ship. If you equip them nicely they make great ECM ships, especially the Badger Mark II. Vote now for the chance to see CCP win the "Best Persistent World Online Game" category for Eve Online: The Second Genesis. (Include in your sig!
GrendelPrime	Posted - 2004.01.05 21:05:00 - [13] I for one, like the idea of purpose built mining ships. yes there is aways the probe, imicus, and the others... but these are frigates and I don't know about you, but I stopped mining in a frigate along time ago! A ship with the same number of turrets as the thorax, the cargo hold of a Vexor would be great. Give it crappy armor, fair to decent shields and make it slow as hell for all I care, whatever as long as the ship description doesn't say its a combat ship . I think that purpose bulit ships like this would go along way towards adding depth to the world of Eve. --GrendelPrime "Though you may die, do not give up your honor" -- Miyamoto Musashi
Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.05 21:24:00 - [14] THANK YOU GRENDEL!!!! Now for the rest of you...you don't think that ships with specific roles are a good idea? If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.
Code404	Posted - 2004.01.06 01:20:00 - [15] Quote: OK every ship except indys and shuttles...happy now? My point is still the same why am I mining with a combat ship? The military doesn't use aircraft carriers as cruise ships. ...they don't?????.......
Ezra	Posted - 2004.01.06 01:57:00 - [16] For a while, DCM lasers took 1500 CPU. No ship has that much you say? Well, one of the elite frigates had a bonus: 90% reduction in DCM laser usage. Sadly that didn't make it in. ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation
Karga	Posted - 2004.01.06 03:25:00 - [17] eve database notes a hybrid mining ship, whether we see that or not.... keep guessing as i do. Though Im pleased with the EW and combat ships available. Fits my profession
Kunming	Posted - 2004.01.06 04:02:00 - [18] A mining slot vs a weapon slot (as mentioned in an above post) means a lot of recoding in the game, which will bring lots of bugs with it and a lot of testing would be needed. Devs are trying to avoid this solution for this reason. They rather try to change and balance the current ships and codes, and try to assign ships certain roles. I think other than the Indy roles are assigned by the most CPU and high slots (for mining) etc... Intercepting since BETA
Atrioss	Posted - 2004.01.06 04:06:00 - [19] Excellent idea.
Ganja	Posted - 2004.01.06 04:28:00 - [20] Edited by: Ganja on 06/01/2004 04:31:19 I haven't taken the time to read all the mind bending replies, but just replying to the topic itself.. Tech 2 ships, such as Elite Frigates and Elite Cruisers, are specialized. Here are some examples: -------- Name: Crusader Hull: Executioner Class Role: Interceptor Developer: Carthum Conglomerate Carthum ships are the very embodiment of the Amarrian warfare philosophy. Possessing sturdy armor and advanced weapon system they provide a nice mix of offence and defence. on the other hand their electronic and shield systems tend to be rather limited. Race Bonus: -30% Energy turret capacitor need Role Bonus: 10% Reduced signature Radius Per Interceptor Skill Level ----------- ----------- Name: Buzzard Hull: Griffin Class Role: Covert Ops Frigate Developer: Kaalakiota Corp As befits the one of the largest weapon manufacturer in the known world Kaalakiota ships are very combat focused. Favoring the Caldarian traditional long range combat strategy they are designed around a substantial number of weapon systems especialy missile launchers. However they are generaly rather lightly defended and ill suited for extended battles. Special: 90% less cpu need for Cloking Devices and Long Range Scanners. Race Special: 30% Hybrid turret range bonus ------------ ------------ Name: Enyo Hull: Rifter Class Role: Bomber Developer: Roden Shipyards Unlike most Gallente ship manufacturers Roden Shipyards tends to favor missiles over drones and their ships generaly possess stronger armor. However their electronics capacity tend to be weaker than ships from its competitors. ----------- ----------- Name: Hyena Hull: Probe Developer: Thukker Mix Role: Mining Frigate FrigateSpecial: -90% less cpu need for Deep Core Miner -No Description- IE: Unfinished balancing. ----------- The list goes on.. Go to http://database.eve-db.com and look at the different listing of frigates.

Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.06 06:08:00 - [21] Quote: Edited by: Ganja on 06/01/2004 04:31:19 I haven't taken the time to read all the mind bending replies, but just replying to the topic itself.. Tech 2 ships, such as Elite Frigates and Elite Cruisers, are specialized. Here are some examples: ... The list goes on.. Go to http://database.eve-db.com and look at the different listing of frigates. Had a Stilleto bp during beta. One of the Panotekks was kind enough to...er, lose it. IIRC the hull was the same as one of the low bounty gate pirates. Chrome finish. Fun to fly. Worthless for shooting My only question are the Wolf, Hound and Dagger frigates' developers I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
NeoMorph	Posted - 2004.01.06 08:56:00 - [22] Specialised ships ARE on the way... Mining ships, Destroyers, Scouts.... all on the drawing boards according to Hilmar. So for all those saying "It will never happen" I say "pfah" to you! I for one look forward to the new stuff on the horizon. ------------------------------------------- <Stavros> the first motor bike i ever rode <Stavros> was a honda gold wing <Ak-Gara> hah <Stavros>
Othello Noral	Posted - 2004.01.06 16:40:00 - [23] well I'm glad to see I wasn't completly off base. I hope CCP puts role ships in game very soon. If death doesn't kill me...nothing will.
Chelsea rorec	Posted - 2004.01.06 17:13:00 - [24] umm yeah !
Fail Digger	Posted - 2007.10.27 00:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Huney Will never happan. HARHAR, wronggg
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.10.27 00:55:00 - [26] lol.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Terex193 Amarr Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2007.10.27 01:01:00 - [27] Apoc is good for bothing mining and combat,if u can fit it right of cource :) snip Sig contains inappropriate words. - hutch O come on its Censored! A dev called me a Forum Warrior :)
shupaco yaloo	Posted - 2007.10.27 11:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Fail Digger Originally by: Huney Will never happan. HARHAR, wronggg quality necro
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.27 11:37:00 - [29] A necro I actually laughed at. Good stuff.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.27 12:32:00 - [30] Funny necro, but still a necro. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.



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