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Archeausz	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:35:00 - [1] Edited by: Archeausz on 13/05/2007 19:33:15 Yes this might be a whine but In all honesty this is getting stupid... I know it might be my fault for can mining but the hassle of having so many secure containers is to fiddly... Earlier on today I was mining happily, minding my own business and some idiot in a frigate comes and ransoms me for 1mill... I wasnt aware of his capabilites so I ignored him hoping he'd go play with himself somewhere else were he is needed... Anyhow he just drop's a can, loads all my gear from it, into his can, and destroys it... I mean seriously, is CCP for piracy or something, because that is ridiculous, they should keep the idea were you leave it for 1 and a half hours or something like that until it pop's itself, its jsut taking the ransom thing one step to far... It happened to a friend to earlier on today, and he payed the ransom, and the pirate still destroyed his ore... Im not going to accept you're "another whine bla bla" BS because its really getting stupid. And im not going to change to secure can mining, to much hassle for what its worth. also dont come up with some smart a55 comment, this is simply a pure whine to CCP about how stupid this function is and it should be sorted out accordingly, or they should release a rule for it to not be abused as a form of ransom, or petitioned for CCP to actually do something to it instead of ignoring all the grief petitions.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:37:00 - [2] They could just remove jan can mining, which wasnt ment to be apart of the game in the first place.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:37:00 - [3] Edited by: The Pointless on 13/05/2007 19:36:45 (Wierd. Thought I hit cancel.) Anyways, he was in a Frig. Was he flashing red or did he flip your can? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:39:00 - [4] Yes, lets nerf this as well and then have a nice game of cards together. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Telkanes Serkant Caldari Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:40:00 - [5] So he moved your stuff to a can so he's flagged? Easy fix put some drones on board as soon as he's flagged release drones and pop him....OR get a corp mate in a cloaked stealth bomber (My corps fav trick) If your using Mining drones on a Barge then more fool you! :) Thieves are everywhere in the world and also in EVE! -Telk
Archeausz	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:40:00 - [6] Agreed ^^
Archeausz	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:41:00 - [7] but its stupid, and shouldnt be alowed such a form of ransoming, and a new pilot like me doesn't have that option of knowledge
Telkanes Serkant Caldari Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:44:00 - [8] Join a Corp mate, thats what they are there for! :)
Mallikanth Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:44:00 - [9] If you can afford to drop a slot fit a WCS. Then when he pops your can scare the * out of him by scramming the guy and launch your drones at him. You do fit combat drones dont you? Of course for larger targets this is not feasible. Other suggestions in this thread work as well.
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:44:00 - [10] First off, he did ransom you. You declined which is your perogative. He then executed his threat, and destroyed your ore. Doesn't matter what you hear about pirates not honoring ransom, because fact is, most do and it's always your choice wether to pay or not. Actually, I would be surprised if someone ransomed you and then let you be when you didn't pay. I mean, what good would that do? Second, it's not griefing. It's his ore when it's in his can. You can attack him or take your ore back. You didn't. Your choice. Third, can mining was not intended from the beginning. People used it, and CCP let them. Then people started stealing ore, so the can miners whined and whined until CCP gave them can flagging. Now they are whining that they are still getting their asses kicked. Perhaps it's time to stop putting the blame on everyone else and just admit that you suck at this game? Fourth, use a secure can and you won't have to deal with this. Oh, it's too much hassle for ya? Well, tough ****! /Ki Remember, kids: Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Telkanes Serkant So he moved your stuff to a can so he's flagged? Easy fix put some drones on board as soon as he's flagged release drones and pop him....OR get a corp mate in a cloaked stealth bomber (My corps fav trick) If your using Mining drones on a Barge then more fool you! :) Thieves are everywhere in the world and also in EVE! -Telk Pretty much what I was getting at, but I wanted to make sure it was the case first. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Dorion Gray Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:48:00 - [12] Right he's in a frig ? so when he starts flashing red just kill him... make sure he's flashing red though or
Archeausz	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:55:00 - [13] Edited by: Archeausz on 13/05/2007 19:53:10 you are missing the point... the point is not so much the ransom, its the fact people can destroy cans ... it creates a new dimension of ******** ransoming
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Archeausz Edited by: Archeausz on 13/05/2007 19:53:10 you are missing the point... the point is not so much the ransom, its the fact people can destroy cans ... it creates a new dimension of ******** ransoming Well, technically jet-cans are trash cans, so it makes perfect sense that they are destructable. /Ki Remember, kids: Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:02:00 - [15] Originally by: Archeausz Edited by: Archeausz on 13/05/2007 19:53:10 you are missing the point... the point is not so much the ransom, its the fact people can destroy cans ... it creates a new dimension of ******** ransoming It's a jetcan. It's not going to be extremely wierd if a jetcan can expire after an hour or two in the vacuum of space, yet can withstand an infinite number of shells/laserbeams/missiles. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:15:00 - [16] If you're hell bent on jetcanning, would it kill you to at least find a buddy to routinely haul your ore away to saftey, before some ebil pirate comes to steal it? This is an MMO, not a single player game... if you hadn't noticed.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:21:00 - [17] Im not a huge fan of jetcan mining, but if theyre going to nerf it there needs to be a practical alternative. Anyone whos spent more than 5 minutes actually mining (as opposed to the forum warriors who feel that pew pew makes them experts on industry) knows that 3000m3 of ore isnt worth crap,, and you cant anchor cans near each other so giant secures really arent an option. Some may say do mining ops with a hauler, but that requires 5+ people to make having a dedicated hauler worth it, and assuming theres 5 people online in a given corp that wanna mine together is optimistic at best. Most miners are solo or very small groups, its not exactly the most exciting of activities and most miners like being left to themselves. Basically, people jetcan mine because its the only halfway efficient way of doing it...the mining methods are basically analogous to a nice meal at Ruth's Chris or passing out drunk behind a McDonalds. I see two possible solutions 1. New class of deployable, but not anchorable, temp secure cans that can hold only ore. Stats similar to a jetcan (at least 15k m3 capacity), can be reused, smallish packaged size and stays auto packaged whenever its not deployed in space (to prevent people from using them as ghetto expanders, this seems to be the main reason giant secures have such low capacity). 2. Just make ore have less volume. This would definitely be easier to implement. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
mikerem	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Ki An First off, he did ransom you. You declined which is your perogative. He then executed his threat, and destroyed your ore. Doesn't matter what you hear about pirates not honoring ransom, because fact is, most do and it's always your choice wether to pay or not. Actually, I would be surprised if someone ransomed you and then let you be when you didn't pay. I mean, what good would that do? Second, it's not griefing. It's his ore when it's in his can. You can attack him or take your ore back. You didn't. Your choice. Third, can mining was not intended from the beginning. People used it, and CCP let them. Then people started stealing ore, so the can miners whined and whined until CCP gave them can flagging. Now they are whining that they are still getting their asses kicked. Perhaps it's time to stop putting the blame on everyone else and just admit that you suck at this game? Fourth, use a secure can and you won't have to deal with this. Oh, it's too much hassle for ya? Well, tough ****! /Ki With the amount of orethives in eve today, paying a ransom for his ore would prob not have lasted too long. The next ore thief is just around the 'corner' But ya. Be prepeared to fight back, or dont jetcan mine.
Eardianm Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 20:28:00 - [19] Edited by: Eardianm on 13/05/2007 20:26:47 Seriously, who goes around flipping ore cans. Granted, the asking for ransom, then blowing up the ore anyway, is pretty silly. I'd say name the pilot so he looses out on the ransom option for being a greedy moron, but if you care enough to read such a warning on the forums, you already know better than to pay, or to not have backup nearby when jet canning. --------------
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:29:00 - [20] In the old days there was an alliance you could hire for the simple cost price of a war dec. Standing up for the little man in cases like this. Unfortunatly - carebears whined - and the god leaned in from the heavens - and now you are defenceless. Good work for those carebears eh? What were those guys names... SKUNK
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Le Skunk In the old days there was an alliance you could hire for the simple cost price of a war dec. Standing up for the little man in cases like this. Unfortunatly - carebears whined - and the god leaned in from the heavens - and now you are defenceless. Good work for those carebears eh? What were those guys names... SKUNK Oh, stop yer whinging already. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:54:00 - [22] Edited by: Le Skunk on 13/05/2007 21:52:41 Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Le Skunk In the old days there was an alliance you could hire for the simple cost price of a war dec. Standing up for the little man in cases like this. Unfortunatly - carebears whined - and the god leaned in from the heavens - and now you are defenceless. Good work for those carebears eh? What were those guys names... SKUNK Oh, stop yer whinging already. Ahh - One of the carebears. I hope you have convod the OP and offered your assistance against the griefer threat? Whats that? You havent! Your happy to sit and look out for yourself? You fight on the forums! Carebears - in contrast to their public image - are in fact the most selfish and self serving gaming 'groups' ive ever come across. SKUNK
Lal QelThyr Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:57:00 - [23] Edited by: Lal QelThyr on 13/05/2007 21:55:55 Yeah Eard, who would ever do that!? Certainly not us There are plenty of ways to get around Jet Can stealing (dedicated haulers, flagging, secure cans (which are lots of fun when they cant be anchored scoops can and the ore). Use your imagination! As everyone likes to say, Adapt!) EDIT: Aww... doesnt show I am a member of DKI. Or is that just for me?
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.13 22:03:00 - [24] Edited by: The Pointless on 13/05/2007 22:01:25 Originally by: Lal QelThyr EDIT: Aww... doesnt show I am a member of DKI. Or is that just for me? Forum Settings. Should be showing on the website's sidebar as you read this. Le Skunk. I said nothing about the Privateers pre-'nerf'. I couldn't give a flying... What is ticking me off is the fact that, not content with restricting the whinging to one thread, you insist on hijacking aomeone else's threads. I find that pretty pathetic, if you ask me. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Miki Fin Gallente Independant Union of Rangers	Posted - 2007.05.13 22:15:00 - [25] Edited by: Miki Fin on 13/05/2007 22:14:18 Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 13/05/2007 21:52:41 Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Le Skunk In the old days there was an alliance you could hire for the simple cost price of a war dec. Standing up for the little man in cases like this. Unfortunatly - carebears whined - and the god leaned in from the heavens - and now you are defenceless. Good work for those carebears eh? What were those guys names... SKUNK Oh, stop yer whinging already. Ahh - One of the carebears. I hope you have convod the OP and offered your assistance against the griefer threat? Whats that? You havent! Your happy to sit and look out for yourself? You fight on the forums! Carebears - in contrast to their public image - are in fact the most selfish and self serving gaming 'groups' ive ever come across. SKUNK Bitter are we? I've never seen or heard of any corp or allaince pro-actively hunt a specified target for the cost of a war dec. edit for stupid forums
Renosha Argaron Caldari The Celestial Free Miner's	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:34:00 - [26] First rule of jetcan mining is to "ALWAYS" have a hauler sitting next to you to haul whatever you put in to the can there and then. You are always gonna get some clown trying it on with you if your sitting there on your own, as it makes you a very easy target.....i mine alot and have came across many idiot trying to scam me or bate me in to something......you just have to stay on your toes. The worst folk out there are the "IDIOTS" that claim to be liberating the ore belts by not letting you jetcan mine there ,and they try causing youm as much grief as they can....i mean ffs find a tree and hug it or something....H*mp it for all i care....just get a life and leave miners alone.....lol Anyway CCP kinda favour the pirate these days so complaining wont help, infact there making life harder for us miners in future by moving the belts on a daily basis and making us scan for them...so yet another kick in the chookies for us miners.....lol End of rant....lol regards Renosha
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.13 23:39:00 - [27] Pay me two mil and I'll kill him for you
Orion Eridanus Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2007.05.14 00:25:00 - [28] To the Op if the ore thief is in a player corp and your in a player corp go ahead and war dec them and kick their assses, and if you cant, hire a merc, and if your in an npc corp and they are in an npc corp well your SOL now then arent ya and maybe you should look into joining a corp with similar minded people who are willing to protect your mining operations
JonLuc McPew	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:08:00 - [29] Edited by: JonLuc McPew on 14/05/2007 01:05:54 Welcome to scam/thieve/grief/cheat/farm/meta-game Online.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Cadien Cybernetics	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:23:00 - [30] Simple: - Get rid of direct can to can transfer, so you have to use your cargo as a cache. /fixed _________________________________ - People are people wherever you go -

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