If that was true, then the plex market would be over saturated and prices would crash. Can't have it both ways

I get what you mean to say, but the above is not correct.

An account subbed with PLEX brings in zero money.

Only purchase of PLEX from CCP brings in money, or subbing directly.

That PLEX is used to purchase various services ingame, in no case earns CCP even a cent.

Here's the solution in one sentence:

If you find the price too high, don't buy it.

Glad I could help.

Mr Epeen

Players buying PLEX ingame creates demand.
PLEX, and hence CCPs income from PLEX sales, depends on it.

If players are priced out of the ingame PLEX market, it is guaranteed to result in less player activity.

Poor players (IRL) play to PLEX.

They may not contribute to CCPs funds directly, but they do keep activity/content alive, as paid for by some IRL richer player.

If that segment of players is priced out of the market, and drops out of EVE, it will have some pretty severe repercussions for EVE and CCP.

Furthermore, these players love EVE as much as any of us, despite their IRL income being less than ours.
Its not good to lose them, even though they pay with isk rather than cash, for the same experience.

Plex on the marker in eve has just reached 1 billion isk. The increase in price if this commodity is outrageous. Especially when you consider that just 2 years ago it was only 500mil. And back in 2009 it was just under 200mil. That means it grew 300 mil over 3 years and then 500 mil in just under 2yrs with nearly 200mil of that being just in the last month or 2.

Now some may say this is due to inflation or increasing avenue for income stream. But nowhere of those explain why Plex prices have skyrocketed so drastically while every other commodity has practically stayed stagnant.

Many players rely on the ability to pay isk to play because they can't afford to pay with real money such as broke college students or others affected by a down turned economy. But these prices are making it extremely difficult for these people to afford the time to be able to afford to Plex their account.

My concern is that if CCP doesn't do something about this soon, they will be losing a lot of their more consistent player basis and we as capsuleers might be losing a lot of our industrial friends.

I ask CCP to consider this market commodity as an exploited market item right now and look for a way to fix it as soon as possible.

OH NOES!!!1!~

(as an aside, I find it interesting that the plex price scare seems to keep popping up every 2 years or so almost like clockwork... does this mean that the game is actually GASP getting new players who don't remember the last big price scare? almost like the majority of the player base isn't actually just a handful of bitter vets and their alts sitting on mountains of plex)

PLEX isn't going to kill EvE online. It's like saying bad driving is going to kill an old person.

There can be no doubt that EvE is "fading." See link

If the concurrent user count is nearly the same as it was pre-F2P, and you have to assume that some of those users are now F2P users, then the number of paid accounts is at or below the F2P bump.

What the actual numbers are? Only the folks in the boardroom know. The big mystery is where is the point of no return? Similar to Dust, when is someone going to say the numbers no longer justify...development...maintenance...keeping the lights on?

But, much like your aging grandmother, players need to prepare themselves. Could be tomorrow...could be two years from now. But the trend is obvious. EvE has been in a slow population decline since 2013.

KB

That's because nothing has changed since then.

This isnt 10 years ago, or 10 years from now.

Dont be so naive as to think many things havent changed between then, now, and into the future.

Because something has worked in the past, is no insurance or surity it will continue into the future.
Otherwise we would all be citizens of the Roman Empire.

You can't hibernate!!!

There are rats that need killin' ...

That's not even remotely true in the context of the discussion.

Mr Epeen

Your quoted link wasn't from 10 years ago. It was from 2 years ago. EvE was in decline 2 years ago.

Your second link was, as far as I can tell very near EvE's peak. That was akin to someone singing the praises of universal home ownership in 2007.

10 years ago? EvE was growing. 10 years from now? EvE will be an interesting Wikipedia entry.

You're welcome to say whatever you like whenever you like. Doesn't make it true.

It's just math.