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Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 955	Posted - 2017.05.22 08:49:01 - [1] - Quote Hello, all capsuleers crazy enough to still read IGS. Having been otherwise engaged for a couple of years and now having come fully back, I have noticed a significant shift in how the public Summits of capsuleers are these days: it has become much harder to see people take anything seriously. Sure, there were always nutcases and jokes and shady associations and innuendo and what have you. But it seems that these days there is increasingly a public competition of who makes the best quip or has the fanciest dress or shows the least passion for their fights. The undercurrent of life and death is limited to Sabik competing about who is most Sabik (amusing at first but gets old fast, sorry) and Diana Kim hating the Federation (at least some things never change). So, in this thread, I dare you to tell me what you take seriously. You can choose to interpret that any way you like, but if you have difficulty, here's some questions to help you to find the answer: What do you wake up for in the morning? What still makes you cry? What would you kill for? Who would you save or kill, if you could? What do you most regret having failed at? What still makes you proud to remember?
Julianni Avala Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 260	Posted - 2017.05.22 08:52:07 - [2] - Quote Faith. Chief Financial Officer, Head Diplomat I-RED GalNet Site
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 513	Posted - 2017.05.22 08:58:05 - [3] - Quote I take the health of my corporation and alliance very seriously, both in terms of combat and financial health and cultural. I also take any word or bond with other organisations very seriously, there are far too many free targets and enemies in this cluster to consider the reprehensible act of betrayal. I think that sums up the core of what I take very seriously. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange Intaki Reborn Independent Capsuleer
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2394	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:07:51 - [4] - Quote Why the bloody hel do I want to take anything but a few things I am passionate about in the IGS seriously when space and planetside activities can get stressful enough? A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Mizhir TURN LEFT HYDRA RELOADED 75324	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:08:01 - [5] - Quote I like the humour that pops up once in a while. It serves as a nice break in between the hate and mudslinging. Humour is something that can connect people and I hope it helps breaking down some of the distance. As for your question. I value the wellbeing of my clan and my family. Many things that I do as capsuleer is for their benefit and I feel I have a responsiblity since I was bestoved both massive wealth and power. Death rides a fast C4mel
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 955	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:15:20 - [6] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Why the bloody hel do I want to take anything but a few things I am passionate about in the IGS seriously when space and planetside activities can get stressful enough? May I respectfully suggest that if you do not want to take anything seriously, you might want to be in some other thread? Mizhir wrote: I like the humour that pops up once in a while. I do too. After all, as long as you can laugh at something, it has not won you. But I teel that if people are hesitant to show the serious face, for whatever reason, the humor loses strength too.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 327	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:33:41 - [7] - Quote Chocolate.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 955	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:35:40 - [8] - Quote Halcyon Ember wrote: Chocolate. See, this is what I was talking about.
Mizhir TURN LEFT HYDRA RELOADED 75324	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:38:26 - [9] - Quote I am not much for discussin politics so my serious face must be a rarity here. Death rides a fast C4mel
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2394	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:43:54 - [10] - Quote Mizhir wrote: I am not much for discussin politics so my serious face must be a rarity here. Politics tire me, especially considering the kind of mess the four nations get into all the time. I rather spend my mental resources on simpler things. Like drawing better circuits or improving/designing mechanical systems. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Lasairiona Raske Raske Holdings 399	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:53:47 - [11] - Quote My children. Are you a devil or an angel Sent here from heaven or from hell? Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles Can't find my way out of your spell
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 328	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:56:27 - [12] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Halcyon Ember wrote: Chocolate. See, this is what I was talking about. 1) Chocolate is Serious Business 2) I'm going to send you a mail
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3010	Posted - 2017.05.22 09:57:00 - [13] - Quote God, my integrity, my family and friends, my people, my home. That's a short list of the most important things. In a broader sense, I take too many things too seriously.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 957	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:07:27 - [14] - Quote Halcyon Ember wrote: 2) I'm going to send you a mail Looking forward to it.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 957	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:09:38 - [15] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Politics tire me, especially considering the kind of mess the four nations get into all the time. I rather spend my mental resources on simpler things. Like drawing better circuits or improving/designing mechanical systems. That's an interesting assumption, there. That what you take seriously should be about politics, let alone those of the four nations. Or that IGS should be just about those things.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 2204	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:11:18 - [16] - Quote I take my archaeological work seriously, someone has to protect the artefacts from destruction by the vandals of the Theology Council. Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Yarosara Ruil Haighare Pirates 986	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:24:24 - [17] - Quote Science! Is serious business.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 328	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:32:07 - [18] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Halcyon Ember wrote: 2) I'm going to send you a mail Looking forward to it. I hope it addresses your concerns
Utari Onzo Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1714	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:40:01 - [19] - Quote I take honesty in dealings seriously. I take personal loyalty and betrayal between myself and those close to me seriously. I take my oaths seriously. Everything else is secondary to that. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Corraidhin Farsaidh Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate 2144	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:42:35 - [20] - Quote I'm serious about Things that affect the whole of Empyrean space, but not individual factions. I withdrew from the Empires into WH space as I basically hate the politics. This does not mean that I have withdrawn from defending all of the citizens of the Empires though. Aside from that I take parties seriously, we get enough death and destruction in our daily existence, so anything that brings us more in touch with humanity is a good thing.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 328	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:45:26 - [21] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Aside from that I take parties seriously, we get enough death and destruction in our daily existence, so anything that brings us more in touch with humanity is a good thing. I am having a party
Corraidhin Farsaidh Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate 2144	Posted - 2017.05.22 10:59:52 - [22] - Quote Halcyon Ember wrote: Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Aside from that I take parties seriously, we get enough death and destruction in our daily existence, so anything that brings us more in touch with humanity is a good thing. I am having a party I may have to attend just for the massage :)
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2395	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:03:26 - [23] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Politics tire me, especially considering the kind of mess the four nations get into all the time. I rather spend my mental resources on simpler things. Like drawing better circuits or improving/designing mechanical systems. That's an interesting assumption, there. That what you take seriously should be about politics, let alone those of the four nations. Or that IGS should be just about those things. Lady, you of all people know how ridiculously seriously people take politics. There's 'serious' business, and there's 'SERIOUS' business. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate 2145	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:20:15 - [24] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Politics tire me, especially considering the kind of mess the four nations get into all the time. I rather spend my mental resources on simpler things. Like drawing better circuits or improving/designing mechanical systems. That's an interesting assumption, there. That what you take seriously should be about politics, let alone those of the four nations. Or that IGS should be just about those things. Lady, you of all people know how ridiculously seriously people take politics. There's 'serious' business, and there's 'SERIOUS' business. And then there are parties...
Jev North Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 940	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:23:16 - [25] - Quote Truth, and martial readiness. I'd take humor seriously too, but there's a kind of self-defeating paradox at work there.. Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 330	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:26:30 - [26] - Quote Oh, nicknames for Jevabissia. I take those seriously too.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 957	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:33:30 - [27] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Lady, you of all people know how ridiculously seriously people take politics. Some people, sure. But not only politics, and not all people.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate 2148	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:37:04 - [28] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Lady, you of all people know how ridiculously seriously people take politics. Some people, sure. But not only politics, and not all people. I find politics to be a theatre of the absurd, played to the delusions of the masses. Unfortunately it's the consequences of this that are very very serious for a great many people.
Teinyhr Ourumur 909	Posted - 2017.05.22 11:42:14 - [29] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Having been otherwise engaged for a couple of years and now having come fully back, I have noticed a significant shift in how the public Summits of capsuleers are these days: it has become much harder to see people take anything seriously. So, in this thread, I dare you to tell me what you take seriously. Harder to see people take anything seriously? I can count at least 10 threads which are mostly "serious business" on the first page alone. If you ask me, some quips lightening the mood here and there are nothing but welcome. I wake up with the weight of my clan on my shoulders, every time. Being the only capsuleer in our clan, there are millions of people who look up to me, regard me as their saviour, the one to deliver them to greatness of days past, pummeled by expectations from every direction, both from baseliners and unnamed empyreans. I take that responsibility and those expectations seriously. If I make a joke here and there to calm myself and maybe brighten someone elses day I don't want to be whipped about it.
Mizhir TURN LEFT HYDRA RELOADED 75325	Posted - 2017.05.22 12:01:28 - [30] - Quote Teinyhr wrote: I wake up with the weight of my clan on my shoulders, every time. Being the only capsuleer in our clan, there are millions of people who look up to me, regard me as their saviour, the one to deliver them to greatness of days past, pummeled by expectations from every direction, both from baseliners and unnamed empyreans. I take that responsibility and those expectations seriously. If I make a joke here and there to calm myself and maybe brighten someone elses day I don't want to be whipped about it. I see we have that in common. Even though there are groups in my clan that would rather have me expelled or killed, the majority still sees me as their guardian. I take their safety uttermost serious, however the wellbeing and prosperity is just as important. I have been involved and funding several teraforming projects and I take pride in aiding both nature and man to flourish in the otherwise barren deserts. However my clan does also give much in return. My mum and the other mystics offer the best guidance I could ever wish for and the love I get from my fellow clan members is worth it all plus more. Death rides a fast C4mel
Teinyhr Ourumur 910	Posted - 2017.05.22 12:34:05 - [31] - Quote Mizhir wrote: I see we have that in common. Even though there are groups in my clan that would rather have me expelled or killed, the majority still sees me as their guardian. I take their safety uttermost serious, however the wellbeing and prosperity is just as important. I have been involved and funding several teraforming projects and I take pride in aiding both nature and man to flourish in the otherwise barren deserts. However my clan does also give much in return. My mum and the other mystics offer the best guidance I could ever wish for and the love I get from my fellow clan members is worth it all plus more. Ouch, sorry to hear that, at least I have almost complete support so I don't have to add "being kicked out of clan" to my worry list anytime soon. I didn't mean to sound like it is a thankless job - but the stress can be very real even with all the well wishes and support.
Mizhir TURN LEFT HYDRA RELOADED 75328	Posted - 2017.05.22 12:41:16 - [32] - Quote Teinyhr wrote: Mizhir wrote: I see we have that in common. Even though there are groups in my clan that would rather have me expelled or killed, the majority still sees me as their guardian. I take their safety uttermost serious, however the wellbeing and prosperity is just as important. I have been involved and funding several teraforming projects and I take pride in aiding both nature and man to flourish in the otherwise barren deserts. However my clan does also give much in return. My mum and the other mystics offer the best guidance I could ever wish for and the love I get from my fellow clan members is worth it all plus more. Ouch, sorry to hear that, at least I have almost complete support so I don't have to add "being kicked out of clan" to my worry list anytime soon. I didn't mean to sound like it is a thankless job - but the stress can be very real even with all the well wishes and support. Well their voices aren't so strong. So I barely worry about them. I still have full support from the elder council as well as the cheiftess. I have never seen it as a thankless job. However as a capsuleer I could have just taken what I had and leave them behind. Not that I would ever do that. Death rides a fast C4mel
Mizhara Del'thul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 1902	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:21:35 - [33] - Quote I think you know what I take seriously, Elsebeth. The contents on the IGS doesn't tend to rate that level of attention, anymore. For the most part, anyway. This is mostly because you're right. The capsuleers and contents here and on other public fora have for the most part descended into parodies of what was, spineless lip-service and conflict-averse ephemera that stands for nothing when push comes to shove. The greatest threats or concerns to be found are crimson clowns and certain cliques that occasionally swarm and then fade back into irrelevancy, and nothing of substance ever gets built or pursued it'd seem. What is there to take seriously here, other than a vanishingly small number of individuals? It'd appear the kind of people who frequent this sort of place are also the kind who don't actually tend to be worth taking seriously out there in New Eden, so this place follows suit. So, you know what kind of thing I take seriously, and we don't really do much of anything that qualifies as such, do we Elsebeth? Or dear whoever else is the reader. In short, this place and its denizens doesn't get taken seriously because no one here hardly ever does anything worth taking seriously.
Ayallah Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 952	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:27:29 - [34] - Quote I take everything I do seriously and all it gets is people saying I need to relax. Or insulting me, that is another usual response. Most of the 'humor' I read here or hear in the Summit just sounds like the unfocused thoughts of people with no drive and less like an attempt to actually be funny or entertaining. As strength goes.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 332	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:34:07 - [35] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: I think you know what I take seriously, Elsebeth. The contents on the IGS doesn't tend to rate that level of attention, anymore. For the most part, anyway. This is mostly because you're right. The capsuleers and contents here and on other public fora have for the most part descended into parodies of what was, spineless lip-service and conflict-averse ephemera that stands for nothing when push comes to shove. The greatest threats or concerns to be found are crimson clowns and certain cliques that occasionally swarm and then fade back into irrelevancy, and nothing of substance ever gets built or pursued it'd seem. What is there to take seriously here, other than a vanishingly small number of individuals? It'd appear the kind of people who frequent this sort of place are also the kind who don't actually tend to be worth taking seriously out there in New Eden, so this place follows suit. So, you know what kind of thing I take seriously, and we don't really do much of anything that qualifies as such, do we Elsebeth? Or dear whoever else is the reader. In short, this place and its denizens doesn't get taken seriously because no one here hardly ever does anything worth taking seriously. I can't believe you're not taking my chocolate seriously
Corraidhin Farsaidh Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate 2151	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:45:45 - [36] - Quote Halcyon Ember wrote: Mizhara Del'thul wrote: I think you know what I take seriously, Elsebeth. The contents on the IGS doesn't tend to rate that level of attention, anymore. For the most part, anyway. This is mostly because you're right. The capsuleers and contents here and on other public fora have for the most part descended into parodies of what was, spineless lip-service and conflict-averse ephemera that stands for nothing when push comes to shove. The greatest threats or concerns to be found are crimson clowns and certain cliques that occasionally swarm and then fade back into irrelevancy, and nothing of substance ever gets built or pursued it'd seem. What is there to take seriously here, other than a vanishingly small number of individuals? It'd appear the kind of people who frequent this sort of place are also the kind who don't actually tend to be worth taking seriously out there in New Eden, so this place follows suit. So, you know what kind of thing I take seriously, and we don't really do much of anything that qualifies as such, do we Elsebeth? Or dear whoever else is the reader. In short, this place and its denizens doesn't get taken seriously because no one here hardly ever does anything worth taking seriously. I can't believe you're not taking my chocolate seriously I take chocolate very seriously, none of that over-sugared stuff for me thanks. Minimum 70% cocoa as a rule, although I have found some higher cocoa content milk chocolates to be pleasant. I also have a delightfully simple chocolate martini recipe. I'll share it with you if I can make it to your party. And yes, it does produce a very serious martini...
Ioannis Sepphiros University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:47:24 - [37] - Quote Politics, Philosophy, Humanitarianism, anything really that goes beyond and above *mindless* Hedonism.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3831	Posted - 2017.05.22 13:47:30 - [38] - Quote Ayallah wrote: people saying I need to relax You do. But you won't. So you keep on doing you. You do it well.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3831	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:02:41 - [39] - Quote As for the larger question... Very little that percolates into the chattering nonsense of the IGS. I take my responsibilities seriously. They're not here. I take my job seriously. It's not here, either. I take my people seriouslyGÇöboth sets, the people who have claim on me through ties of blood, upbringing, and culture, as well as those who have claim on me because of shared toil, triumph, and loss, and because I've chosen to make commitments to be responsible to, and for them. On the one hand, those people are my Clan, my Tribe, and the Matari, in increasingly attenuated and indirect line of responsibility... and on the other, they are my Logistics wing in any given fleet, RepSwarm, and the entire Imperium. I take them seriously. I have reason to take them seriously. With very few exceptions, none of the people here have provided me with reasons to take them seriously, and plenty of reasons not to. And that's fine. I don't expect them to feel like they should. I don't expect them to feel like they should take my statements here seriously, either. As for regrets, or other things that affect me enough to be considered 'serious'... There are really only three or four people in the cluster who've earned the full list of those. Sorry.
Ayallah Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 952	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:30:12 - [40] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Ayallah wrote: people saying I need to relax You do. But you won't. So you keep on doing you. You do it well. I do not. I could not survive if I did not remain as focused as possible at all times. If anything I am too lax, I know I am. I am not interested in enummerating my burdens or responsibilites but I struggle daily and in every interaction to remain as temperate as I am. As strength goes.
Sinti Vailatti Angelis Exploration 277	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:34:04 - [41] - Quote Business, Industry, passion and self-preservation. I also take animated holos and my Gallente porn collection pretty seriously. GÇ£Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?GÇ¥
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 963	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:35:13 - [42] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: So, you know what kind of thing I take seriously, and we don't really do much of anything that qualifies as such, do we Elsebeth? Or dear whoever else is the reader. In short, this place and its denizens doesn't get taken seriously because no one here hardly ever does anything worth taking seriously. I don't think that's true. You are here. I am here. Arrendis. Gaven Lok'ri. Valentina. I know for a fact plenty more read this than write (hi to all who sent mail - you are in good company). It's not that no one here does anything worth taking seriously. It's that no one here who does things worth taking seriously seems to dare post about them anymore. It's almost like people have become afraid of the scorn of "but why can't we all just get along" types.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3837	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:52:20 - [43] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: It's that no one here who does things worth taking seriously seems to dare post about them anymore. It's almost like people have become afraid of the scorn of "but why can't we all just get along" types. I can't speak for anyone else, but... no. The people whose scorn I care about are the same ones that get to know all my demons. Anyone else? Meaningless and empty shadows, photons on a GalNet site, and nothing more. And therein lies the truth of what you're seeing: Why should I parade my activities out before a bunch of irrelevant nothings? Why should I care enough about their approval to say 'I did a thing!' as if I need their validation? I'll leave that kind of 'look at me, see, I do things that matter!' to people like Napkins and those who need to make a show of attacking him. I do what I do. Those who should know what that is, do.
Mizhara Del'thul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 1905	Posted - 2017.05.22 14:57:07 - [44] - Quote This is going to sound rather dismissive then, but if they fear the scorn of that kind of spineless troglodyte, why should I take them seriously? You might be right though. There is much I never see or know about in New Eden, but the end result still becomes the same then. It may be worth taking seriously, but if it never appears on my sensors or feeds, it might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned, no? Until such a time comes, I'll be idly dipping my toes in this slurry of mediocrity primarily for entertainment purposes and occasional educational rants, while out there in New Eden I'll bide my time watching the death and birth of Keepstars, alliances and "empires" that at least try to do something more noteworthy than... I don't know. Chocolate and Sani Sabik parodies. We are here, Elsebeth... but if none of us see anything we do that might be worth taking seriously, does it even happen as far as we are concerned?
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 964	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:04:11 - [45] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: This is going to sound rather dismissive then, but if they fear the scorn of that kind of spineless troglodyte, why should I take them seriously? [---] Until such a time comes, I'll be idly dipping my toes in this slurry of mediocrity primarily for entertainment purposes and occasional educational rants, while out there in New Eden I'll bide my time watching the death and birth of Keepstars, alliances and "empires" that at least try to do something more noteworthy than... I don't know. Chocolate and Sani Sabik parodies. But you see, with that stance it is you too who seems a little afraid of the "chocolate and sani sabik posers". You choose to give up this space as something where serious work does not belong.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3841	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:26:07 - [46] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: You choose to give up this space as something where serious work does not belong. But turn that around: why should this space be taken seriously? What makes the IGS worthy of being thought of more highly than the Local system fluid router channel?
Vaari Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity 922	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:28:22 - [47] - Quote God, Empire, my noble house and my organizations on that order. Fear the God and honor the Empress! -House Valius battle shout.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 969	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:33:12 - [48] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: You choose to give up this space as something where serious work does not belong. But turn that around: why should this space be taken seriously? What makes the IGS worthy of being thought of more highly than the Local system fluid router channel? Nothing. It's just I found it more interesting when you could.
Mizhara Del'thul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 1912	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:35:34 - [49] - Quote That's a fair standpoint, but you'll also note that I've included myself in the group of people who don't really do anything worth taking very seriously. Oh, I'll set up a Staging and Containment center perhaps, or whatever else when the situation calls for it. I'll even put on the 'serious' face and announce it and so on. I do my part for the Network and all those little non-capsuleer things. I tour with Sarz'namarr and break open the odd volcano or something while waging a small cultural and ideological war among the baseliners, and occasionally use this place advertising such things. That doesn't really count all that much though. On the scales of New Eden, it barely registers and most of it is irrelevant to capsuleers anyway. No, Elsebeth. I don't think any of us 'fear' these worthless creatures. We just don't do much to rise above them, do we? You named some names earlier. Arrendis, toils for the goons and has worth on her own but does nothing worth taking seriously here. Gaven dutifully nudges the pendulum, in a never-ending Sisyphean task that achieves nothing. I undock and fulfill my contracts to the letter, killing and destroying without the cause even being my own. You now do the same as Gaven, in the other direction. No, we don't choose to give up this space. We just don't do anything worth putting here, when even the things we do that does matter and is worth taking seriously... doesn't actually matter or is worth taking seriously for others here. When we put up another Keepstar, what does it matter to you? When another Sotiyo churning out super capitals in Delve goes up, what does it matter to me? What does Electus Matari do that's worth noting to the rest of the IGS? What does PIE do that's worth noting to the rest of the IGS? It doesn't really matter what people are loyal to here, every entity that does proclaim some sort of loyalty does nothing of note, and the entities in New Eden that does do something of note are irrelevant to the vast majority of denizens of this place because it's so far beyond the reach and even realms of possibility for them. Want this place to have something worth taking seriously on it? Well, maybe we need to do something worth taking seriously first. They happen all the time, but separated from this place because this place is irrelevant to most people who do things that matter. Regions burn, staggering industrial capacity is born and thrive, battles worthy of continuous days of song in remembrance all happen on a daily basis but this place just can't deal with these things because it's a scale most of its denizens will never grasp. Let me know when an entity has ambitions to be an entity worthy of note both here on the IGS, and out there in the void where it bloody matters.
Aria Jenneth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 3913	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:39:25 - [50] - Quote Integrity. Insight. This tapestry of interactions and relations, woven among stars. (Thread count: absurd.) Poetry. Emotion. "Being human." The humanity of even the cruelest and deadliest among us. "We are not gods." The strangeness of our place in this world. Civilization. Costs and benefits. The human animal. The Drifters. The lies we tell ourselves, and each other. Ripples of interaction. The state of my soul. The mark I leave on this world. Leaving a mark at all. "I see every reason to doubt my own existence." Connections with those around me, who touch my life, whose lives I touch. Duty. Warmth and kindness. Home. Misery, mine or others'. Love and heartache. Frailty. Understanding hard-won. Humility, Moderation, Compassion, Curiosity. Wisdom. Lighting candles.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 969	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:45:04 - [51] - Quote Mizhara del'Thul wrote: I don't think any of us 'fear' these worthless creatures. We just don't do much to rise above them, do we? That is indeed a good way to put it. You talk about how no one does anything worthwhile. Of course, one person's and one organizations actions are pretty never anything compared to the whole cluster - and when they are, they tend to make the news, and be discussed by others, not by the person him/herself. And yes, a lot of what gets posted on IGS is meaningless dribble even by those standards. Part of the fear I seem to feel about the serious people posting about serious things seems to be exactly that: that by making posts about what matters to you, you somehow lower yourself to the perceived level of the IGS, admit by association that your serious face is nothing but "chocolate and Sani Sabik parodies" (sorry, but I love that phrase, and am totally going to adopt it until it becomes a traditional saying whose origin no one really remembers anymore, and my apologies to chocolate lovers, but not really to Sabik).
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3841	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:54:32 - [52] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Yet part of the fear I seem to feel about the serious people posting about serious things seems to be exactly that: that by making posts about what matters to you, you somehow lower yourself to the perceived level of the IGS, admit by association that your serious face is nothing but "chocolate and Sani Sabik parodies" Again, I can't speak for Miz or anyone else, but... you keep bringing 'fear' into this, when I don't see fear as being involved at all. Let's say I do something I consider significant, off in my little pocket of space. There are people who will be affected by it. There are people I will be doing that for, or doing it to, and people I'm doing it with. They already know what was done. The rest of you are utterly unimportant. Why should I care to share anything of that nature with you? Not 'why should I lower myself to your level' not 'why should I open the matter up for the IGS to judge it, and by extension, me'. Just very simply: who the hel are you that I should give a fedo's backside about telling you anything? It's not like you're going to be at all relevant to my purposes. You're not going to affect my actions in the slightest. Telling the IGS about anything of consequence is about as useless as telling the IGS what color socks I'm wearing. Why should I? What does this place offer to be worth bothering?
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 970	Posted - 2017.05.22 15:57:11 - [53] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Telling the IGS about anything of consequence is about as useless as telling the IGS what color socks I'm wearing. Why should I? What does this place offer to be worth bothering? Again, there is no particular reason to, if you prefer not to. This place is of no value in itself.
Mizhara Del'thul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 1912	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:02:16 - [54] - Quote Perhaps. Another possibility may just be that it's just not worth the effort when there are other fora where things that matter does get discussed, proclaimed and noted by an audience of others that do things worth noting, or at least are part of entities that do. There's a separation in play between the audience of this place and these other fora. It wasn't always that way, in the past. Part of this place's audience had ambitions and went out and did things. Over time though, those people slowly but surely had to separate from this place because this place simply catered to a different kind of capsuleer. To put it bluntly, the kind that doesn't undock, or when they do it's never to do anything with substance. In order to be part of something that might matter in New Eden, an entity has to have standards of performance and activity. Ambitions for something more than pendulums or station tanking. This is antithetical to most people this place caters to and from there grows a gulf of resentment between these two demographics. There are serious matters that are not galaxy-changing, nor brag-worthy battles, but as long as this place doesn't value - in fact even resents - the existence of these things, those matters too fall by the wayside as collateral casualties to this place's resentment of both putting in an effort in space, taking any risks of significant values and having any kind of standards of quality in matters outside of the docking ring.
Jev North Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 944	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:02:24 - [55] - Quote Relevancy is relative, even space relevancy. At least it seems to be something you take seriously? Hm. Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 970	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:09:36 - [56] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: Over time though, those people slowly but surely had to separate from this place because this place simply catered to a different kind of capsuleer. To put it bluntly, the kind that doesn't undock, or when they do it's never to do anything with substance. I am going to say this one more thing, and then I hope we can continue to listen to the thoughtful answers from the people who do want to express what matters to them. This place does not really "cater to" anyone. Its public nature means that it is unselective and that by nature turns away those people who'd prefer selection and those matters that need operational security. That alone does not mean that talkers of empty talk get any preferential treatment, however.
Mizhara Del'thul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 1913	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:16:11 - [57] - Quote Fair enough. The place itself may not cater to anyone, but its intended audience certainly does.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3841	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:19:02 - [58] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: This place does not really "cater to" anyone. Oh, but you're very wrong there. Its public nature may mean there's the potential for an unselective platform, but in practice, the swarming gnats of idiocy mean that platform exists under very specific atmospheric conditions that can be summed up as 'a swirling cloud of feces'. And so in effect, anyone who wants to say anything here has to wade through that cloud. All in all, the effect is that yes, this place very much caters to the buzzing fecal-phages like Napkins. In may ways, he and his ilk have become the true apotheosis of the IGS.
Utari Onzo Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1716	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:28:12 - [59] - Quote I'll admit to keeping a lot of my personal fronted efforts, or large scale efforts I'm involved in, mostly off the IGS outside of the odd post possibly. First and foremost because of my experiences with the PPC lead me to believe that petty drama between adults (and capsuleers no less too) has a habit of outshining the serious efforts of participants, especially in a naive, but highly detailed effort to offer a potential blueprint for a somewhat more concrete peace. Secondly, there's just not the appetite here to know of things like the Conclave of Providence and its efforts to establish a legal and religious framework for the advancement of Amarr interests, culture and governance into that nullsecurity system. No one that wasn't already closely involved anyways, or was able to keep an eye on it via knowing a participant, cared about the weeks of debate to push forward Operation Deliverance and the promotion of the Faith. Only Amarr cared, everyone else seemed to mostly just shrug. Why cater to promoting activities like that to a crowd who can't even put up an interesting retort to our efforts let alone the small amount of praise it got, once again mostly from the Amarr. Looking beyond the end of my personal involvement, ongoing efforts to establish the Empyrean Council for the region to enact the decrees of the Conclave will also go on unnoticed here, because the input from my personal experience isn't usually worth the effort of reading, and it seems the Council Members, the Principal and the region's Magistrate agree. Those with sage advice have already spoken directly to the Council, those with retorts already have done so with guns. Excuse me for failing to care when my attempts to inform the peanut gallery come up short, I find my time better spent talking to those that want to actually talk, and shooting at those that want to shoot. Outside of the odd good discussion or important news, the IGS for the most part has become my morning coffee rabble rouser and place to sharpen my snark. I'm still learning the latter. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Aria Jenneth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 3916	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:28:28 - [60] - Quote Uh-- Miz, Arrendis? Not that you apparently care a lot, but maybe you could take this discussion into the "Off Topic" thread? It seems to be a tangent to the original question, here, and I'd really like to see other people's answers.
Utari Onzo Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1716	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:31:52 - [61] - Quote In respect of the above post by Aria, I'll look to any reply to my post in that thread as well. I suppose to bring things back on point I'll say I take polite and reasonable requests seriously too. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 335	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:31:56 - [62] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Uh-- Miz, Arrendis? Not that you apparently care a lot, but maybe you could take this discussion into the "Off Topic" thread? It seems to be a tangent to the original question, here, and I'd really like to see other people's answers. Maybe they're serious about being off topic?
Tsao Aubbes Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 131	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:46:38 - [63] - Quote I try to take my corporation, my relationship and social interaction in general as seriouslly as I can. If I didn't, it would be awfully rude on my part.. Tressith Sefira > You don't understand. She IS the awkward.
Templar Thal Vadam Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 108	Posted - 2017.05.22 16:52:06 - [64] - Quote I value honor, in both myself and when I see it in other people. My word is my bond, it always has been. I value my faith, it gave me hope when I had none. I value my family, because our name once meant something great, and it shall again. I take people seriously when they know how to respect that which I value, and will afford them the same courtesy
Shiran Mazaki Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 9	Posted - 2017.05.22 19:17:26 - [65] - Quote My duty to Ishukone, the State and Ishuk Raata. In that order.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 2393	Posted - 2017.05.22 20:09:12 - [66] - Quote I take my ****-posting very seriously... A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Ria Nieyli Amok. Goonswarm Federation 50650	Posted - 2017.05.22 20:34:15 - [67] - Quote That's an interesting question, and having my upbringing, or rather lack thereof I don't take much seriously yet. Slowly growing into it as I get older and meet more people.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2094	Posted - 2017.05.22 21:53:12 - [68] - Quote I take something seriously when I have the ability to change it. I believe one of the main reasons you see so much flippancy on this board is because so many of the topics being discussed actually have no bearing on what is within most pilot's ability to influence. A debate degenerates into mocking rambles once the participants believe they cannot sway anyone to their cause. A thread about a war turns into a laughing insult exchange when neither side can resolve their differences in combat. Cutting remarks and cynical bitterness infects a discussion about New Eden politics when it is found that no one in government takes our ideas seriously. For all of our vaunted skill and destructive potential, we really have little chance at changing the world around us. This realization causes a great deal of the jaded attitudes found here on the IGS, I believe. There is, of course, also the limitations of this medium as well. The IGS is too public to disallow disruptive and uninvested voices from a particular topic, and so you have attention-seeking fools derailing things because they have nothing better to say. If you wish to keep a discussion on-track and productive, it should be limited to those who have both the will and ability to participate in it with maturity and purpose. Lots of gas-bags will spout sophistry in a thread they have no stake in simply because it keeps their tongues sharp. Like Arrendis. Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Graelyn Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1065	Posted - 2017.05.22 22:50:06 - [69] - Quote Lord Shutaq understands the bigger picture, as usual. Cardinal Graelyn Imperial Liaison, I-RED Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Teinyhr Ourumur 913	Posted - 2017.05.22 23:30:15 - [70] - Quote Damn.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2103	Posted - 2017.05.22 23:39:40 - [71] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Integrity. Insight. This tapestry of interactions and relations, woven among stars. (Thread count: absurd.) Poetry. Emotion. "Being human." The humanity of even the cruelest and deadliest among us. "We are not gods." The strangeness of our place in this world. Civilization. Costs and benefits. The human animal. The Drifters. The lies we tell ourselves, and each other. Ripples of interaction. The state of my soul. The mark I leave on this world. Leaving a mark at all. "I see every reason to doubt my own existence." Connections with those around me, who touch my life, whose lives I touch. Duty. Warmth and kindness. Home. Misery, mine or others'. Love and heartache. Frailty. Understanding hard-won. Humility, Moderation, Compassion, Curiosity. Wisdom. Lighting candles. Beautiful. Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Deitra Vess Non-Hostile Target 1905	Posted - 2017.05.23 00:12:17 - [72] - Quote lets see, my corp my republic my tribe myself in that order. Though every one below it effects everything above it to some degree so, I guess technically I would take all of them seriously. Honorable mention to the enemies of those things, because if I didn't take them seriously they would undermine those that placed on my list.
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2403	Posted - 2017.05.23 01:28:14 - [73] - Quote Seriously, the last time I took anything seriously on this board filled to the brim with unseriousness was when Mr. Tuulinen made a serious announcement about a serious emergency of his Arcology project. Because far as I am concerned, this is serious enough to warrant serious action on my part while at the same time help the Clan make some ripples on the interstellar stage, which is also of serious benefit. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 670	Posted - 2017.05.23 02:51:17 - [74] - Quote I think it is less a worry about derailment through inane comments that prevents more serious posts here, and more a sense that there is no audience for important things here. There is simply less room for individual corporate declarations mattering in the context of the CEWPA war. When PIE or EM declared war in peacetime, that was a decision that required justification. Now that we are at war officially, the agency of the decision of who to oppose belongs to higher authorities, and IGS loses importance as a place for announcing those decisions. This remains true so long as the loyalists stay loyal to their respective states. Once groups go rogue, the IGS has a purpose again, as we are seeing with the Sani Sabik popping up left and right. That all said, I think the idea that things were significantly a decade ago has more to do with selective memory than reality. Inanity was the norm then as well, but the few important discussions that occurred stand out in memory more than the inanity does. To answer the question though: I take everything to do with Amarr and the Praetoria seriously. And I especially take my duty as a Holder of the Emperor Family seriously. It is my absolute duty to defend those of the Faith who have less power than I do. I also take the lives of the crews and civilians lost in these conflicts as a vitally serious issue, something I notice that many capsuleers ignore. To me, ISK is far less important than lives. Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
Elsebeth Rhiannon SoE Roughriders Electus Matari 979	Posted - 2017.05.23 05:01:03 - [75] - Quote With respect to Egivand, the original question was not what do you take seriously on the IGS.
Pieter Tuulinen Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 7678	Posted - 2017.05.23 06:10:02 - [76] - Quote Anything that affects me and mine, then. What else can we take seriously? For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
ValentinaDLM Remember The Fallen. Atlas. Alliance 949	Posted - 2017.05.23 09:57:50 - [77] - Quote Simple, I take those who accept me seriously, and do everything in my power to protect them, help them grow, love them, and share in that camaraderie. Sure I have rationalizations and justifications till the end of the universe, but I think I am self aware enough to see that ultimately they pale to that single consideration. From a community of pilots to a Nation, my level of seriousness and commitment is derivative of how I feel about how they feel about me. Which is why, I might have been very serious about PYRE but, the Empire itself was something I tried hard to be serious about and never really could be, it is why I found my home with the Tribes and why dogma has never really been what I lived for.
Che Biko Alexylva Paradox 1010	Posted - 2017.05.23 17:04:00 - [78] - Quote Quote: [..] no one in government takes our ideas seriously. This is false, but, as some involved in the off-topic discussion in the thread where I took this quote from have written, capsuleers of note may have little reason to post on the IGS, and I'd say the same applies to people in government, even if they discuss our ideas internally, and seriously. Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
MantelGlobalIndustries Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 54	Posted - 2017.05.23 22:54:09 - [79] - Quote Interesting question, Captain Rhiannon. I shall oblige you with an answer. First and foremost, from a professional standpoint, any officer worth their salt should consider the welfare of their crew, their subordinates and their corporation slash country as a top priority. One's duty to their state and accompanying nation is also of paramount importance. Adhering to a professional code of conduct and honour when engaged in battle is another, such as not deliberately targeting lifeboats and treating the vanquished captured by oneself with dignity, rather than those who would disgrace themselves by forgoing that. Personally, those that are close, or become close over time, are those that I develop a strong attachment to and will defend until the last joule of energy leaves my body. Whether they are members of my family, my comrades on the field of battle, those that are my partners romantically, it matters not whom. If I consider them my own, I will not waver in my responsibilities to them. The lines and boundaries of professional and personal can be blurred of course, and it is important that in some instances it is best to keep them separate for reasons that I am sure you would understand. Other than what I have mentioned, there are a few other things. Did I mention Cormorant-class destroyers? My fondness for them is pretty serious. Perhaps bordering on obsession, much to the consternation of many a Fleet Commander in the State Protectorate. Edward H. Adams Commander Heiian Conglomerate
Steffanie Saissore Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 501	Posted - 2017.05.24 08:10:13 - [80] - Quote I take my responsibility to my ship and crew serious as well as my relationships with others seriously. We travel in the dark of the new moon, A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Lo Kuei-Sen Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 1	Posted - 2017.05.24 13:26:11 - [81] - Quote My spirituality and cause, to seek enlightenment through the pursuit of knowledge. To help those who have become lost. Don't mistake me for some kind of devout, I'm just a follower of the teachings of Adakul of a new age, and Ida. Eastern winds.
Luna Hanaya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 265	Posted - 2017.05.25 18:21:24 - [82] - Quote I try to take everything seriously. Politics, questions of Faith, news, philosophy - even if I don't understand a lot about it. But I do try to make sure that all my replies are quite serious as well. I despise these clowns who use IGS for their amusement, who can talk only about pleasures and make jokes about other people. And I mean it, I really despise those, who make jokes on other's extent. A good, healthy joke is when you joke about yourself or about situation, and if you joke about others - you must make sure it isn't harmful. Sometimes IGS starts to look like a bunch of apes, who punch each other with their half-witted jokes and innuendos and laugh like horses about their own replies. The God sees everything and everyone. And I ask you - is to look at yourselves and at what are you doing. Quite a lot of people come to IGS to talk about serious business. But greater amount of folk just disrupts everything by their lack of seriousness. I will ask you for one more thing: if you can't reply seriously please don't post anything. Don't be one of "them". (( If you are a roleplayer, please join official CCP channels ingame for roleplayers and support roleplaying community: Intergalactic Summit - IC router Out of Character - channel for discussion of roleplay, live events and lore ))
Muo Chuan Guo Crielere Cloaking Technologies 2	Posted - 2017.05.25 18:47:16 - [83] - Quote Although humour is welcome in my eyes, I must agree, Luna Hanaya. We are beings with on going power and influence and we must take our place in society as such. I myself take culture seriously, and embracing the culture of others. I am fortunate that my work as a courier - however simple or pointless some might see it, helps me to embrace this passion.
Teinyhr Ourumur 915	Posted - 2017.05.25 20:08:27 - [84] - Quote I seriously despise people with sticks up their butt.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 366	Posted - 2017.05.25 20:37:02 - [85] - Quote Teinyhr wrote: I seriously despise people with sticks up their butt. Sounds painful
Davlos Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 118	Posted - 2017.05.25 21:52:27 - [86] - Quote ISK.
AEther Galatia Celestial Eternity 2	Posted - 2017.05.26 15:32:47 - [87] - Quote Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: Hello, all capsuleers crazy enough to still read IGS. Having been otherwise engaged for a couple of years and now having come fully back, I have noticed a significant shift in how the public Summits of capsuleers are these days: it has become much harder to see people take anything seriously. Sure, there were always nutcases and jokes and shady associations and innuendo and what have you. But it seems that these days there is increasingly a public competition of who makes the best quip or has the fanciest dress or shows the least passion for their fights. The undercurrent of life and death is limited to Sabik competing about who is most Sabik (amusing at first but gets old fast, sorry) and Diana Kim hating the Federation (at least some things never change). So, in this thread, I dare you to tell me what you take seriously. You can choose to interpret that any way you like, but if you have difficulty, here's some questions to help you to find the answer: What do you wake up for in the morning? What still makes you cry? What would you kill for? Who would you save or kill, if you could? What do you most regret having failed at? What still makes you proud to remember? Coffee. If only I could drink some.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin Kurilaivonen 2142	Posted - 2017.05.27 17:33:36 - [88] - Quote I have to admit to a bit of a cold sweat while considering the question posed. However. The things I take seriously: Perfecting my disco dancing skills with the members of my personal protection team. Because after years of tearing up the battlefield being able to tear up the dance floor and get down on a Saturday night is a welcome reprieve. Managing my rare salt collection from across the cluster. Still looking to acquire some pink salt from the mountains on Ardishapur Prime. Reading. It does not matter too much what it is, whether hardboiled detective stories, poetry, or Amarrian scripture. Mostly detective stories. Solitude at home and the time to just appreciate the valley outside or to walk alone in the forest to think to myself. Falconry and rearing my small coterie of pyre falcons and kestrels. Dinner with old comrades in the Home Guard to talk about the Good Old Days over vodka and cigars. Trying to learn how to use my empathy not as a tool to get into people's heads all the better so I can determine where to stick the (metaphorical) knife but rather to reserve it for those I do care about. Curbing my ambitions, but not my enthusiasm. Understanding my capability for personal cruelty and violence should not come to define me. The knowledge I am able to be cruel and violent will always give me the confidence of being dangerous - for I have inflicted that danger upon countless many - but more dignified that cruelty is a choice and not for its own sake. Smashed avocado on toast. Trying to view my time in the pod and the death and violence that often serves as corollary to it less as my profession and more... as a hobby, I suppose? Mathematics. Even if at times it makes me uncertain what is real or surreal anymore and I have to remark to myself: Well, wasn't that a fun game to play. Exploring the doubts I have about my own Caldari consequentialist and legalist philosophical outlooks. Baselining under different names around the State to experience the pleasure of speaking with strangers, mingling among my own people, and just to eat some hot noodles while standing on the street. There are more than a few things I take seriously, or to read into the subtext of the question posed, find meaningful but increasingly I find myself drawn back to life outside the pod. If only because I feel that the life I had led within hydrostatic fluid was much like trying to erect a monument to self which in the end -- much like forgotten Kings -- would be dust eventually. The capsule taught me beauty and truth in its own way, but I should also seek it elsewhere. For in the nominal heights in which I existed I forgot the small things, and sometimes... well, just existing is the greatest gift of all and everything else is just a bonus. Especially at times those small things. It's just a matter of finding them.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 3214	Posted - 2017.05.28 15:24:55 - [89] - Quote Gallente menace. But in reality - everything. Well, everything except some minor exceptions, so for me the question should be better turned towards what I don't take seriously, since it will be way more easier to list. Though I won't do this, I'll just bring couple small examples of some annoying minorities: I don't take seriously posters, who can't back their words with actions. Also I don't take seriously liars and slanderers. And I don't take seriously posters who ignore verifiable facts. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 2414	Posted - 2017.05.28 18:44:00 - [90] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: And I don't take seriously posters who ignore verifiable facts. It's good you don't take yourself too seriously... A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Che Biko Alexylva Paradox 1029	Posted - 2017.05.29 15:16:06 - [91] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: I don't take seriously posters, who can't back their words with actions. Does that include those posters you hang on walls? Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
Deitra Vess Non-Hostile Target 1932	Posted - 2017.05.29 16:10:53 - [92] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: But in reality - everything. Well, everything except some minor exceptions, so for me the question should be better turned towards what I don't take seriously, since it will be way more easier to list. Though I won't do this, I'll just bring couple small examples of some annoying minorities: You don't seem to take the Matari seriously. "Stupid tribals" and all that. Even though we're your enemy just like the Gallante though some of us could really care less about attacking you and your own.
Synthetic Cultist Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 631	Posted - 2017.05.29 17:06:56 - [93] - Quote I take Life Seriously. Every Day is a new Discovery. I take Studying the Mysteries of Religion Seriously. I am Proud of my Daughter, who is Perfectly Normal. Synthia 1, Empress of Kaztropol. It is Written.
Jason Galente Tempest Legion 1168	Posted - 2017.05.29 18:41:21 - [94] - Quote My partner (more a who than a what), and philosophy that isn't second-rate nonsense. I also take the defense of whatever place and whichever people I refer to as home, very seriously. Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended. *At any cost*
Pieter Tuulinen Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 7695	Posted - 2017.05.29 21:51:38 - [95] - Quote In the vein of something I think most capsuleers take seriously... Lyrics wrote: I want to keep my money And give away absolutely nothing To the government who moderates my spending and obliterates depending on what time of the year brutality is near in the form of income tax I'd rather take a ******* axe to my face, blow up this place with you all in it, I'd do it in a minute If I could write off your murder I'd save all of my receipts because I'd rather you be dead than lose a tiny shred of what I made this fiscal year I'd rather you be dead than ponder parting with my second home I'd rather you be dead than consider not opening a restaurant I'd rather you be dead I'd rather you be dead For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Varcutii Renalard 64	Posted - 2017.05.30 00:15:53 - [96] - Quote A number of personal and corporate responsibilities. Yet just as importantly? My cat. Attending to its health, well being, and general contentment.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 3220	Posted - 2017.05.30 17:15:44 - [97] - Quote Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: And I don't take seriously posters who ignore verifiable facts. It's good you don't take yourself too seriously... Your futile trolling attempt is ridiculous since I obviously don't fit into that category. But you, Osyn, is widely known for your antics and laughably stupid claims, like this one. You are the one who make conversations in IGS uncivil. Begone. And let us talk without your childish bile spewing. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Davlos Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 151	Posted - 2017.06.01 06:40:19 - [98] - Quote Nobody takes you or your clonejacks seriously, little Kim. We know it when you get your clonejacks to talk to you.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 3228	Posted - 2017.06.01 16:57:09 - [99] - Quote Davlos wrote: Nobody takes you or your clonejacks seriously, little Kim. We know it when you get your clonejacks to talk to you. Luckily for all of us - you are not everybody, and your bleating reflects only your individual point of view, not the rest of the readers. Thanks to the Maker. Of course, certain "usual suspects" will be glad to jump in and repeat your words, just in spite feeling opening possibility to troll a Caldari officer - but most of people already know who they are. It's a pity that our opponents can't come at us with something serious and conduct productive argument, relying only on such strategy of bottom-feeders, but this just means they don't have really anything against us and Caldari State will prevail despite all their futile attemps. Oh, and yes, of course their delusion about me "clonejacking" somebody is another of their common attacks. I have seen it plenty of times when incapable of other forms of attacks forum loudmouths were claiming random people to be my copies just because they dared to repeat something I said. Of course, I would be honored if someone would walk my path, but their accusation in illegal activity like "clonejacking" is nothing but pro-gallentean propaganda trick. I hope that our dear readers are smart enough to see that these bleating clowns have no real evidences against me in any of their attacks. Well, lets step over them and move on. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Non-Hostile Target 1970	Posted - 2017.06.01 17:08:01 - [100] - Quote Clone jacking, no. Paying off for support, maybe.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 2444	Posted - 2017.06.01 17:15:06 - [101] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: And I don't take seriously posters who ignore verifiable facts. It's good you don't take yourself too seriously... Your futile trolling attempt is ridiculous since I obviously don't fit into that category. But you, Osyn, is widely known for your antics and laughably stupid claims, like this one. You are the one who make conversations in IGS uncivil. Begone. And let us talk without your childish bile spewing. The cognitive dissonance is still strong in this one. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Davlos Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 159	Posted - 2017.06.02 09:49:36 - [102] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: I hope that our dear readers are smart enough to see that these bleating clowns have no real evidences against me in any of their attacks. When it appears that everybody are assholes to you, perchance it's because the *****... drumrolls** is you?
Elmund Egivand Sebestacny Circle 2463	Posted - 2017.06.02 10:22:20 - [103] - Quote Davlos wrote: Diana Kim wrote: I hope that our dear readers are smart enough to see that these bleating clowns have no real evidences against me in any of their attacks. When it appears that everybody are assholes to you, perchance it's because the *****... drumrolls** is you? She's not going to get it. Her bubble of non-reality is simply impenetrable. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
alex tow Real One Corp Axiom Vocation Alliance 1	Posted - 2017.06.02 11:18:12 - [104] - Quote I take seriously the importance of the class for ships....Like, carrier shouldn't be a standard ship, it's a CAPITAL ship which isn't the kind of ship that should be in thousand in one alliance, same goes for supers etc etc :)
Elmund Egivand Sebestacny Circle 2468	Posted - 2017.06.02 13:14:34 - [105] - Quote alex tow wrote: I take seriously the importance of the class for ships....Like, carrier shouldn't be a standard ship, it's a CAPITAL ship which isn't the kind of ship that should be in thousand in one alliance, same goes for supers etc etc :) When there's plenty enough capital ships floating around in the hangar of a single alliance, the capital ship becomes the ship of the line. Technology and economy of scale marches on. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

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