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Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
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Posted - 2017.05.25 05:52:27 -
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So tell me more about how you are not welcome in CVA space or operations.
Because I find this very amusing. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
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Posted - 2017.05.26 18:37:48 -
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Don't take me wrong, but these assurances of CVA's loyalty to the faith would be more believable if they came from the CVA. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 18:44:56 -
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I admit I've been wondering lately if there's any point anymore in EM being on CVA KOS list. I mean, we are not in Provi, we are NRDS, CVA does not really give a damn about loyalists in general (on either side). It's just history.
Not that I entertain the notion it's history people will easily get over. But still. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 18:52:14 -
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Just because Miz says she will not believe it in any case, and I remain skeptical of anyone but CVA making announcements of loyalty for the CVA, you decide there's no point in making updates about a potentially rather important development (or lack there-of) of an alliance with at least former ties to the nation states?
Suit yourself, but to me that sounds a rather extreme reaction.
I'd be interested to hear more about this Operation Deliverance, for sure. I am sure you can tell your point of view on it without making strong claims on CVA's behalf? It sounds like it would deserve its own thread. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:40:15 -
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Vaari wrote:Missus Rhiannon, I will be needing your alliance director name. NRDS business.
Debes Sparre. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:02:19 -
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While I am skeptical about CVA's loyalties, I have to point out that being paid for work does not necessarily mean you would take any work for pay. It is possible to be mercenary and loyal. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:12:52 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Disclaimer: The above message was totally not a paid promotion and the credstick is most certainly not taped under the leftmost table upon entering the Deck.
Wasn't actually talking about you.
MC has plenty going for them, but they are not of the inclination to put off work just because the customer is a slaver. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:17:40 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:That said, Elsebeth stop ruining my jokes with your southern sensibilities.
Didn't we already establish that I can't have a sense of humor because it would be totally untrad and ohnesh? |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.28 05:14:18 -
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If the definition of loyal is "cannot be enticed to betray by any means", then no one is.
Everybody breaks. Everybody. And while strength of mind is a good quality, it is not exactly the same as loyalty.
I would say loyalty is defined by your intentions, and by your actions. They have to be in line and in favor of the person or group you are loyal to. Proclamations of undying feelings of dedication are just words. Without action they are nothing. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.29 12:49:11 -
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What they say.
My scepticism about CVA's practical loyalty are not at all based on Vaari's doings or sayings, and frankly I would not consider a disagreement with him proof in either direction.
He just happened to be what brought this up this time. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2017.05.29 12:54:01 -
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I would also like to point out in more clear words that I do not consider it a fault or a dishonor to CVA if the are rather secular in their dealings these days. Such an approach is only sensible for a space-holding NRDS organization, and CVA has always stressed that as much or more as the Amarrian interests. I am, obviously, not privy to what lead to Vaari's issues with CVA, but if it is a case of putting the peace of a region above the concerns of a preachifying zealot about "heresy" and "purity", then that action is completely in line with CVA stated goals. |
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