Wombat65Au Egdald
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Posted - 2017.06.07 07:34:11 -
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Rexxar Santaro wrote:Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:Rexxar Santaro wrote:If you know a good MJD tanking amarrian BS let me know. [Armageddon, *Simulated Armageddon] ... When IGÇÖll have few addition extra billions IGÇÖll try different amarrian experimental BS fits. The calculators and ship simulators are very useful, but they show us only marginal theoretical values. In real situations, the performance will vary significantly. The problem is to balance max real possible dps/ehp with available skills and ship restriction on cap, slots, power and cpu. I donGÇÖt know what Armageddon is doing in amarrian BS tier, really. Your attempt to put on monks the GallenteGÇÖs beach shorts and dark glasses looks interesting.
That fit is very much a PVE sniping fit, you don't fit a MJD for a short to medium range brawler fit, that's what MWD's are for, IMO. So, let's try a Geddon missile fit that's more focused on brawling.
[Armageddon, *Simulated Armageddon] Damage Control II Ammatar Navy Medium Armor Repairer Ammatar Navy Medium Armor Repairer Ammatar Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Reactive Armor Hardener Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer Republic Fleet 500MN Microwarpdrive Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Heavy Energy Nosferatu II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Ogre II x5
Inferno Heavy Missile x125 Scan Resolution Script x1 Missile Precision Script x1
I chose a lot of faction modules because of CPU issues with the Geddon, but decided against officer modules to avoid making the fit too stupidly overpriced. I chose some non-faction meta modules in the mids because faction versions wouldn't make a significant difference but would blow out the price. This fit has less than 5 points of CPU spare with my skills. Dropping the faction modules for T2 or T1 meta will lower the price but the fit will need an overclocking rig to have enough CPU. The T2 RHML's may have to be replaced with a T1 meta version for the same reason.
Since this is an attempt at a fit that's more suited to brawling, a MWD instead of a MJD and a Cap Battery instead of an AB. A cap booster is also an option and would free up a little more CPU, at the expense of needing to buy and carry booster charges. One more mid slot and I would have added an AB for a dual prop setup, but with only 4 mid slots, I had to prioritise.
One Drone Link Aug because a brawler doesn't need the same drone control range as a sniper setup. A Nos will work on rat ships AFAIK and with the Geddon's hull bonuses for Neuts and Nos's (and my skills) the Nos has a little more range than the heavy missiles. Slightly under 4 minutes of cap duration with this fit, not factoring in any cap leached from rats with the Nos. The fit doesn't need to lock targets at sniping range so a T1 or meta SeBo and a sensor resolution script for faster target locks.
I dropped the low slot BCS to fit a second EANM to better handle incoming damage. The fitting simulator is showing slightly over 940 dps with my skills for this fit. Replacing one EANM with a faction BCS increases dps to slightly under 1020. The fitting simulator also indicated 105 hp/sec of armor rep with this fit (with my skills), no change between two EANM's or one EANM and one BCS. I also tried two medium faction armor reppers with one EANM and no BCS and the fitting simulator showed the same amount of armor reps with both medium reppers running compared to one large faction repper, and slightly over 4 minutes cap duration with both reppers running. With only one EANM, the tank loses approx. 9000 ehp. I do realise that a dual rep fit does not keep both reppers running all the time, but in this situation I'd personally choose the extra 9000 ehp over conserving the cap. Slightly under 4 minutes of cap duration is still quite good for PVE missioning.
I've only selected one set of heavy drones to see the estimate of the dps in the simulator, and this time I chose T2 heavies because they're cheaper than faction heavies, to try to offset some of the cost of the faction modules.
I'm not saying this is "the best" brawling fit for L4 missioning, but as a thought exercise on setting up an Amarr BS for L4 mission brawling, it might work. |