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Brit ainna7
Astartes' Guardians R O G U E
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Posted - 2017.06.08 18:28:28 -
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Evening!
I can currently get 26 - 27mil ticks doing hubs or havens with the following fit
[Machariel, \\//\\//] Capacitor Flux Coil II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II 800mm Repeating Cannon II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Warrior II x5 Republic Fleet Berserker x4
Republic Fleet Fusion L x7264
I'm trying to improve my ticks as I'm about half a year away from even thinking about flying a carrier. Been trying to fit a vargur which wont need to go into bastion mode but I seem to be failing bad at it.
My Mach is cap stable without the mwd going and does about 1.2k dps angel tank.
Any vargur fit I try (usually copied and tweaked from zkill) comes out with less tank, much worse cap and only about 100 to 200 more dps (admittedly usually better tracking).
Is there no way to fit a vargur to beat a Machs tick without resulting to siege mode?
I do have alts but there SP is pretty poor, I tried increasing the ticks by bringing my alts raven in but the frigate waves of a haven still delayed me giving roughly the same tick rate.
Any advice would be welcome thanks! |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
921
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Posted - 2017.06.08 20:19:04 -
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vargur is a more expensive ship. get one of your alts into a vni to help with dps? mach tanks all the site, fit the vni full damage with 4 dda.
also that fit it's not perfect for angel? https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types they do explo and kinetic damage.
so you want or explo+kinetic mod or explo+adapv mod. doing this may enable you to drop the boost amplifier for a tracking computer... need to test it.
others pro ratters will give you better suggestions.
edit: also an armor solution on the mach could be better. leaving you 4 mids for application! |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
3177
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Posted - 2017.06.08 22:14:21 -
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mach does more dps so it should get the bigger ticks. vargur you can brick tank and faceroll things with
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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1280
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Posted - 2017.06.09 05:02:32 -
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Soel Reit wrote: get one of your alts into a vni to help with dps? mach tanks all the site, fit the vni full damage with 4 dda.
+1. If you have two accounts, having an alt along in a dumbo VNI with drone assist is ridiculously cheap additional DPS.
Something like this should do the trick:
[Vexor Navy Issue, WH Shield dumbno]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Power Diagnostic System II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II Drone Navigation Computer I <- use a T2 if you haz t3h skillzorz! Large Shield Extender II 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Drone Link Augmentor I [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Berserker II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
You can play around a little with it and try things like remote cap transfers if you like. VNI's are basically Attack Battlecruisers (Battleship size weapons on a Cruiser size hull) and, imho, are probably the most flexible hull in the game. If you notice that the VNI is *never* getting shot, you can start reducing the tank a little. I used to do this with a Gila/VNI combo and a target painter on the Gila maintained rat aggro. Dunno if AI changes means that won't work anymore.
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This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2017.06.09 15:21:27 -
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Do not get into a carrier for ratting. CCP is nerfing fighters agian. |
Brit ainna7
Astartes' Guardians R O G U E
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Posted - 2017.06.09 15:42:23 -
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Thanks for the replies!
I'll have to give the vni a whirl on my alt. Only issue i have with that is rat agression to drones seems horrible now.
Yep after today's announcement I'm not gonna bother training my main into carriers. I might go for the vertical awesomeness of the bag. Or something more sensible.
As to the mach fit it might be eve hq calculating wrong. Two adaptive give better angel tank on eve hq when compared to a kinetic and an explosive. Prob due to them doing more explosive than kinetic. |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
923
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Posted - 2017.06.09 18:01:37 -
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yea you are right, just checked. explo and kinetic are primary. thermal and em play a marginal role that let the adaptive invul be more effective. |
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