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Dazzak
The Dysfunctionals
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.10 11:53:45 -
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Maybe start fixing current problems with the game than adding more crap and nerfing things that current players do to make some kind of income
Carrier ratting in one of the most interactive and player input things to do in the game, If you want to fix the game start with AFK income
Just because you hired some micro management fool to think up new problems for you to fix
But the slippery slope will continue and you will continue to lose current players and replace them with Alpha clones to beef up your member base to show that you have more revenue than you do |
Full Auto Alice
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:50:33 -
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Justy a note to all of you that are worried about the fighter nerf for carriers. If you have spent the last 3 months and/or skill injectors (which all translates into real world money) to train into a carrier only to have it undergo a major change that fundamentally alters gameplay, then you have the right to cancel your account and call your credit card company to have your subscription fees clawed back from them.
If they sold you a bill of goods, got you to pay for it, then changed it, you have the right to get your money back. Just remember, you have to cancel your account first. |
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Limited Expectations
227
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:55:49 -
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Thx CCP Plankton
"balance pass"- I guessed the nerf values xP
Domi & Ishtar- the potatoes get a lot of love. Will the "upside down" domi bug be added as a feature?
Drone event- new AI? Better rewards in low/null or will this again be a 90% HS event?
Shirt contest- dafuq are those formats.. nvm... *learning vector graphics*
9/10
Omen Navy Issue Tutorial
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ashrum3
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 15:41:44 -
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Dear ccp I have been playing your game for 12 years and yet every day lately i just wounder what the **** your thinking.
leave **** alone you will soon have jita riots again. because you keep driving player. to leave or just hate you ccp you need just accept there no perfect balance and no way to fix things delve will grow regardless what you do and you keep ******* the little guy the mining nurfs the endless cap nerfs you all dont get it. people like to fight in caps people like to build with out having to sit there for hours licking a astrioed. So plz ccp stop being window licking retarteds |
Farr Arrow
PHOENIX'S RISING LLC
15
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Posted - 2017.06.10 16:26:02 -
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I surely wish that pilots would realize that Eve, as is also true with most everything in Real Life, inevitably changes over time. Eve MUST change. If it didn't constantly change and evolve, our favorite fantasy universe would probably quickly get boring to many pilots and the universe would surely eventually die.
The big issue here seems to be that significant numbers of mostly very experienced and capable pilots found a way to project large amounts of power and generate large amounts of isk with a proportionally minimal effort and time actually having to spend playing the game. To be able to efficiently do this, pilots had to have certain lengthy skills trained and had to have certain significant amounts of extremely expensive ships and equipment ready and available. So, of course to be able to quickly cash in on the sovereignty and the isk making bonanzas as soon as possible, many pilots probably spent real life cash on skill injectors and also on plex to be able to accelerate their participation in all the wonderful feasting that was ready and available to be enjoyed. With larger and larger numbers of pilots beginning to take part in the feasting, it became only a matter of time before the gods of the universe, CCP, had to step in and nerf the whole situation. Too many pilots making too much isk too quickly and too easily is always too too bad for the game.
I suspect that there are plenty of undiscovered or little known opportunities to still be able to strike it fabulously rich in Eve Online. Perhaps it might be more beneficial to stop complaining about needed and necessary evolutionary changes that inevitably nerf a favorite activity and start focusing on using intelligence and dedication to discover the next Eve gold mine or the next diamond mine opportunity. And please, if anyone did spend lots of real life money on multiple omega accounts or skill injectors or plex in pursuit of quick and easy isk making (or power or glory or whatever) a good question to perhaps ask ourselves is: "Did I do this knowing full well the risk and rewards or was I somehow tricked into doing this by the all-powerful gods of the Eve universe?" |
Alex Strict
The Dysfunctionals
Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 21:45:00 -
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If it is all about the ISK income, is it really so hard to nerf that instead of making carriers or other capital ships crap?! If we want more bigger fights where CAPS are involved, it is a crap way to encourage ppl to use capital ships when every update make them weaker not only in PvE but in PVP also. In my opinion its easier and more acceptable by players to nerf isk income from rewards instead of making ships that cost a bit weak s***.
Maybe start fixing the game with:
- "not stopping" the training queue
- improve performance in bigger fights
instead of making caps useless hulls that look nice... |
Buddy Jehu
Energized Elohim's Tribute Keepers
0
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Posted - 2017.06.11 04:36:43 -
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Well, here goes another time when people are unhappy and complain.
I think you are doing ok ccp, and I encourage you all to work your hardest on finding ways of building something that will motivate people to want to have good times and be happy. I think you get some of your ideas from religion, and that is ok with me. Maybe there could be an area of religious type parts to the game that have to do with each factions core theological ideas.
For those of you complaining, I get it. However, whining only comes back to you and slaps you right back in the face. That is unless you don't care, in which case even worse things happen. Look at the bright side, there are all kinds of opportunities in life, let alone this strategic, interactive game. Grow an imagination and figure out how to have a good time without carrier ratting all day is what I would do.
Maybe one day, all will be content. Until then, figure it out. |
Mace Window
C5 Flight
The Serenity Initiative
1
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Posted - 2017.06.11 05:35:32 -
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Work hard to get this ship and 3 days after CCP messes it up LOVELY |
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2017.06.11 08:50:52 -
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Given the bounty amounts from Delve and Deklein and the rise in bounty prizes. The fighter nerf is a good first step but personally I don't see it being enough.
Null sec is meant to be a place of greater risk and greater reward, not just a massive gravy train.
The biggest problem in the blue donut is that there is no reason to expand your borders. I mean why would you if you are already sitting on a gold mine.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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wpier dolina
CBC Interstellar
Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.06.11 10:23:24 -
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I was thinking "they nerf respawn of colosals" ok in gaps or after work when its nothing to mine i will ratt with my carrier
but [bU NERFF RATTING TO ][/   b] tell you what fozie stick it up im going back to play wot an just canceled my 12 subscriptions and i think most of my mates will do the same well done fozie just what u wanted dont ya? |
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DiDDleR
Skunkdogz Corporation
29
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Posted - 2017.06.11 10:56:51 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:george skyshudder wrote:can we get an update as to when we can expect strategic cruisers to get their rebalance? We are happily using a nice process here for the focus group, and it is very transparent. To have a look at the discussions, please check the discussion logs. To have a look at first proposed changes, please have a look at the Google sheets WIP document. Please be aware that all this is work in progress (WIP) and should be treated as this. These are by no means any final numbers or decisions!
You might want to read those focus group logs before posting the link 
The last couple of days appear to be just generally complaints about the whole approach CCP are taking |
luvi Garsk
Thank You Come Again
Oh Crip its A Crapple
0
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Posted - 2017.06.11 12:05:46 -
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We pay a subscription to play the game however we want.
Stop turning it into pay to win. You're nerfing the income we make to the point where we have to buy plex to have ships. **** off.
In any other game when you "die" you respawn. So **** off with this ****. If you're not making enough money from subscriptions, RAISE THE ******* PRICE.
You can shove plex up your ******* arse.
That's the real issue here. Not ratting. Not mining. ******* plex.
The game would be better without it.
BTW, unsubbed. |
Alexander Draegar
Nocturnal Tumescence
Fidelas Constans
11
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Posted - 2017.06.11 20:47:55 -
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So, a question for the t3 rebalance:
What will happen to my parts and BPCs when the new subsystems roll out? Will I lose my BPCs? Will they change into something else?
"To kick ass harder, swing foot faster. To kick more ass, keep swinging foot!"
~Alexander Draegar
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MIKE Commander
Setenta Corp
Requiem Eternal
10
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Posted - 2017.06.11 21:00:22 -
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This is very stupid move. I cant understand why you bring something new to the game and then nerf it to the ground. If there are too many people ratting with carriers and mining with rorqs, then you CCP are to be blamed for this, because bringing skill injectors to the game was the greatest mistake you ever did to this game. Now everybody can fly whatever he wants in a couple of minutes. It was way better when you had to train months, and even years for some of the ships. It was very well balanced. To be able to rat in a carrier you had to train for one which takes time and isk, and then you had to buy one which requires more investment and time to earn the isk for one.
The skill injectors will dig this game into the ground. And this is just the beginning. Am glad i was one of the old players remembering the good times of this game. RIP EVE. |
Alexander Draegar
Nocturnal Tumescence
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.11 21:16:37 -
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There's an easy solution to having too many big ships: just create a bigger ship.
In the universe of EVE, there always seems to be a bigger fish. With so many people running around with Supers and (to a far lesser extent) Titans, why not just make something that's big and expensive enough to take team collaboration (again) to build?
These days, there are players rich enough to build and/or buy these ships alone, and then fly them into battle -- then repeat the process. The wealth creep in the EVE universe is clear, and all of this floating wealth simply isn't going to go away in the near future. CCP seems to have recognized this fact with their release of various sizes of Citadels. Perhaps they'll do the same with supercapital ships?
"To kick ass harder, swing foot faster. To kick more ass, keep swinging foot!"
~Alexander Draegar
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Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
880
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Posted - 2017.06.12 10:28:18 -
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Even after all of this, I will still be playing this game because I love it and I don't care about nullsec capital pilots and their isk faucet being turned off. Like I said in another forum post, the game doesn't revolve around you nullbears. |
blaedin jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:07:48 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Even after all of this, I will still be playing this game because I love it and I don't care about nullsec capital pilots and their isk faucet being turned off. Like I said in another forum post, the game doesn't revolve around you nullbears.
You were that kid sitting alone in the pool having a good time, weren't you? Because without nullbears, without population, that's what Eve will quickly become. There are vast stretches of nullsec already empty, try roaming through it--it's a shadow of what it was 5 years ago, and changes (like these absolutely horrible ones to fighters) will only make is worse. |
Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
880
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:14:59 -
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blaedin jordan wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Even after all of this, I will still be playing this game because I love it and I don't care about nullsec capital pilots and their isk faucet being turned off. Like I said in another forum post, the game doesn't revolve around you nullbears. You were that kid sitting alone in the pool having a good time, weren't you? Because without nullbears, without population, that's what Eve will quickly become. There are vast stretches of nullsec already empty, try roaming through it--it's a shadow of what it was 5 years ago, and changes (like these absolutely horrible ones to fighters) will only make is worse.
Great, then I can move in when all the carrier pilots ragequit.
I don't see what the problem is if that happens. |
blaedin jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:16:19 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:blaedin jordan wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Even after all of this, I will still be playing this game because I love it and I don't care about nullsec capital pilots and their isk faucet being turned off. Like I said in another forum post, the game doesn't revolve around you nullbears. You were that kid sitting alone in the pool having a good time, weren't you? Because without nullbears, without population, that's what Eve will quickly become. There are vast stretches of nullsec already empty, try roaming through it--it's a shadow of what it was 5 years ago, and changes (like these absolutely horrible ones to fighters) will only make is worse. Great, then I can move in when all the carrier pilots ragequit. I don't see what the problem is if that happens.
You're missing the point, probably b/c your nothing more than an apologist troll. |
Sylvia Kildare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:16:41 -
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Vix Sparda wrote:how about we not nerf the carriers and in stead nerf the vni and ishtar, and take away covert cyno use from strategic cruisers? you guys already railed mining. stop screwing over the non pvp players. and actually give them something instead. it isnt that hard. its called a nice thing. i hope you guys enjoy your now crashing sub numbers.
They've nerfed the Ishtar 3 times in the past 2 years, how about we lay off that talk.
And btw, they nerfed the Ishtar and sentries due to people whining about their overuse in PVP, which affected people who only used the Ishtar for PVE like myself... and so, such fitting irony now, that people are calling for nerfs due to PVE because carriers/supercarriers are being nerfed due to PVE, which will affect people who use them for PVP as well.
Ah, the vicious double-edged nerfbat. |
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Jonas Skypilot
Banished Braindead Zombies
Circle-Of-Two
2
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:25:06 -
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Funny that there are like 1k+ posts in the forum about the Fighter "Balance" but CCP just say "well **** that, we won`t listen to our community"
Never ever gonna go and buy plex with Gé¼  |
Serenta Mystra
N'tech
1
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Posted - 2017.06.12 11:43:47 -
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So with the nerf, this'll effect all structure defences too, as they use fighters or did CCP 4get that? Complexes have barely any defence atm, and you wanna make'em weaker?!
Ofc. the salvage for any structure rigs requires 'dead' ships. To me it seems a typical keepstar rig, would need a bloodbath fight salvaged (B-R5RB)?! While all we have is the little noctis, when the materials needed are 'Rorqual' sized in salvaging. Fix that first please. . .
Back to Structures, we need a fuel requirement for just 'existing'! Hisec is lettered with abandonned structures! the 7d decommision's bulls h i t! |
ThrowingDeep
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.06.12 12:06:30 -
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I have to thank everyone at CCP for the Alpha program. It gave me enough time to relearn the controls of the game, and to remember why I quit playing 6 years ago! When I tried to log into and sub my old account, it told me my account was banned for EULA violation. Strange, not only because I let my subscription lapse, and played it up until the last day, but also because I made a decision to quit playing EVE because of CCP's complete disregard for the community.
I have been back in the game for less than a week, but everything I used to love flying has been smashed.
You will never get a single dollar from me again if you don't start paying attention to the players.
The game is very pretty, and I do miss flying around the dark spaces of the galaxy.
So this "brand new pilot" is going ALPHA FOR LIFE!
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AS A SIDE NOTE: I have a few friends left with Goonswarm. They would like to thank you for filling their cash pool with ISK and their hangers with Trillions in valued ships, resources and blueprints. So cheers from them! |
Johnno Ormand
Row Row Fight the Power
Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2017.06.12 12:20:33 -
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Sold my fully fit carrier, **** your carrier nerfs and **** your rorqual/asteroid belt nerfs too! |
blaedin jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2017.06.12 13:32:01 -
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Serenta Mystra wrote:So with the nerf, this'll effect all structure defences too, as they use fighters or did CCP 4get that? Complexes have barely any defence atm, and you wanna make'em weaker?!
Ofc. the salvage for any structure rigs requires 'dead' ships. To me it seems a typical keepstar rig, would need a bloodbath fight salvaged (B-R5RB)?! While all we have is the little noctis, when the materials needed are 'Rorqual' sized in salvaging. Fix that first please. . .
Back to Structures, we need a fuel requirement for just 'existing'! Hisec is lettered with abandonned structures! the 7d decommision's bulls h i t!
Another great point, and another reason why CCP's decision to force this down our throats at the last minute hasn't been well planned. It's a knee-jerk reaction that should scare anyone looking down the line at the longterm viability of this game if so shortsighted is their aim and focus. |
Lothar Mandrake
Test Corporation - Please Ignore
49
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Posted - 2017.06.12 14:34:34 -
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Serenta Mystra wrote:So with the nerf, this'll effect all structure defences too, as they use fighters or did CCP 4get that? Complexes have barely any defence atm, and you wanna make'em weaker?!
Ofc. the salvage for any structure rigs requires 'dead' ships. To me it seems a typical keepstar rig, would need a bloodbath fight salvaged (B-R5RB)?! While all we have is the little noctis, when the materials needed are 'Rorqual' sized in salvaging. Fix that first please. . .
Back to Structures, we need a fuel requirement for just 'existing'! Hisec is lettered with abandonned structures! the 7d decommision's bulls h i t!
Thank you so much for saying this!
I decommissioned every complex and citadel and REFUSE to put them back up due to lack of defenses against even 10 attacking ships. So sorry I don't want to turn my citadel into some epic war that CCP can exploit in their videos library.
The 7-day decommission is complete nonsense as well. It should be 24 hours at the most.
If a citadel or engineering complex runs out of fuel, it should begin the decommission sequence automatically forcing the owner to put it back online or get it out of the way. The same applies to the even larger amount of POS control towers offline parked at moons preventing others from putting one up. Those should repackage themselves as well.
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Sethyrh Nakrar
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Posted - 2017.06.12 15:47:49 -
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I don-¦t have a carrier, but when I realise, that a Rattle can do almost the same(wich I can already use), why should I skill then 6+ months for a big hunk of metal, wich is pretty useless now?
Just because a Dev clearly hates that shipclass.....
Its just dump. Sorry, but its true. I don-¦t even care to plan for any cap now, because dreads may be the next ones to nerf.
Somebody has clearly no vision anymore, how to develop this game further or even to balance it. Just look at the mess, the subcaps are(HAC, some BS,....).
Just my opinion.
Praise the Omnissiah!
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Hamar Halltyr
Nemesis Logistics
The Bastion
3
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Posted - 2017.06.12 16:19:21 -
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CCP please think again about making this "Patch" to fighters
I by myself didn-¦t fly a carrier/Super but you will drive away player with that kind of behavior
I-¦m totally fine with that ghosttraining thing because in my eyes it is bug using, but maybe next time make a ingame notifcation after that "that player should check there training queue
and for God sake fire your economics adviser or get one who know-¦s what he is talking about
to reduce the isk income of players is a way to cure your economics sure but only in that way that you lose subscriptions. YOU have to find something player want spend isk to an npc again and again a really isk sink |
Rexxar Santaro
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2017.06.12 17:20:31 -
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About fighters nerfs
Well, IGÇÖm a noob in practical Null-Sec Alliance politics, but IGÇÖm interested in it and I got enough knowledge to realize that this nerf and few other previous nerfs are an attempt to reconfigure the Null-Sec structure by CPP. Obviously, in the RedSwarm FederationGÇÖs favor, based what EVE Map and Monthly Economic Reports showed on economic activity during the last few months.
The result of B-R5RB battle just pushed the PL and PanFam coalition in a really bad situation. The cap ship nerfs did even more, considering the PL mastered cap fleet fights very well.
IGÇÖm surprised that almost all TEST members on this thread just raging about cutted ISK grind by carriers. The fighters nerfs has nothing to do with ISK. If you want to cut the ISK/H, the Null-Sec bounties Faucets GÇô just reduce the bounties by 30% or 50% and thatGÇÖs all (just change one digit in your script) and no need to dismantle those weakened alliances. Considering the situation of going POS and incoming GÇ£citadelsGÇ¥, having those nerfed frigates will make harder to defend them. The greatest battle of this spring at HED-GP just revolved that Legacy depends by carriers and cheap artillery fleets at defense and offense (itGÇÖs just revealed). That POS battle, in my opinion, was a strong TEST CEOGÇÖs move to control better such an important system for Hi-Sec access and bridge beacon in southern region. The carriers nerfs is a strong blow to Legacy power, because their Hels had an important role in the HED-GP battle, as some from PanFan said GÇ£BRAVE Hel on the gridGÇ¥.
IDK about Drone Region Federation, but during some Sunday I did exploration there from Etherium Reach to Cobal Edge and I met like 15 pilots, which was not the ISK grinders or miners.
We should wait to see the changes to T3 ships, especially how this will affect those alliances which have big TenguGÇÖs fleets.
More, CPP planning to increase the drop chance of pirate faction ships BPC, which will turn into huge amount of BPC on the market. For example, last month in Delve was mined ore on 8.9 T ISK.
IGÇÖm feeling, weGÇÖll see a 20000 army roaming Null-Sec on Machariels, Naglfars, Gnosis, Gilas, RattlesnakesGǪ and how the Citadel and capital shields will hold this IDK, before weGÇÖll see another big nerfs for pirate ships. Who will wing in a battle 10000 Machariels vs 1200 Machariels, considering no capital, carrier, sub-cap support? Just for High-Sec mantra players, we can see that army in Hi-Sec operating legally through WarDecs like PIRATGÇÖs doing this in Domain and Perimeter. The CPP is trying to balance the game to make it more casual, but it can have practically a cancer effect for this game.
ItGÇÖs interesting to read something about what the alliance CEOs are discussing about these changesGǪ
About Rorqual nerfs
If IGÇÖm not wrong, itGÇÖs an attempt to bring Drone regions to life, for PVE, through farming those Drone AI and components. There are super powerful and expensive Excavator Mining Drones and they are very useful for rich players, considering drone components prices on the market.
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
7867
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Posted - 2017.06.12 17:26:48 -
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Please also read the Updates To Fighter Balance Changes Coming With The June Release.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
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