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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:17:00 -
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hey there and HAAARRRR!!!1
so why tend anti-piwats to blobb with 15+ gangs in mostly frigs, cruisers and 1 or 2 BS to then go down in flames against heavily armed pirates with only 4 ppl? 
hm somehow I like it but the loOt usually suxOrs ...
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Woody Barbarian
Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:27:00 -
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Because everyone knows that every anti pirate in game travels in blobs of frigs and gets beaten by you.
e-peen deflate.
----- It was once claimed a thousand monkeys bashing on typewriter keyboards will, given enough time, produce the works of Shakespeare - Online Forums are proof this is B*****ks |

CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Woody Barbarian Because everyone knows that every anti pirate in game travels in blobs of frigs and gets beaten by you.
e-peen deflate.
yeah I know I just want to know ur opinion about that 
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Fuglife
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:59:00 -
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Why is it that pirates generally gank 5 on 1 with t2 battleships?
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Woody Barbarian
Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:13:00 -
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Agreed, I dont wish to start a total flame war because I know there are some really skilled pirate corps out there but inline with ops statement - why try to flame anti-pies who wish to fight Pirates who are looking for PVP when probably half your targets aren't. ----- It was once claimed a thousand monkeys bashing on typewriter keyboards will, given enough time, produce the works of Shakespeare - Online Forums are proof this is B*****ks |

CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:20:00 -
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hehe...we also kill 5 on 15. its np but what shall we do when a solo guy is passing us while we are preparing to pwnzOr another big gang??? shall we leave him??? Nope...then its BBQ time and thats just the circle of life.
anyways I love u all 
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:29:00 -
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/taps foot and awaits the arrival of LordChaos 
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:39:00 -
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they are most prob miners who are bored and decide to pvp. calling them anti-pirates isnt accurate. anti-pirates to me are pvpers full time.
if u fought our boys u would most prob be the ones with the numerical advantage and id be the one writting about your loot being rubbish .
d solo.
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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: CthulhusSpaceTrip on 18/05/2007 10:43:25
Originally by: darth solo they are most prob miners who are bored and decide to pvp. calling them anti-pirates isnt accurate. anti-pirates to me are pvpers full time.
if u fought our boys u would most prob be the ones with the numerical advantage and id be the one writting about your loot being rubbish .
d solo.
hehe...niCe oNe  u are of course welcome to visit us \o/ lets share some loOt I hope our titan wont kill all the wrecks...LoLzOr
btw NMTZ and celes are good targets...I know 
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Fuglife
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:46:00 -
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You tell em boss!
(can i have my celes forum account back )
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:54:00 -
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Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: CthulhusSpaceTrip on 18/05/2007 10:57:07
Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
I see ur point and its kinda disturbin...true! Since solo pvp is dead (hehehe) its such a thingy with the blobbs blobbing each other! I still prefer small gangs vs small gangs...the whole ctrl+alt+e and ctrl+alt+t is kinda embarrasing 
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Fuglife
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
Il have you know i was fighting a pirate rokh in my hyperion and asked other gang members not to join in just to give him a fair fight. He still lost tho 
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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fuglife
Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
Il have you know i was fighting a pirate rokh in my hyperion and asked other gang members not to join in just to give him a fair fight. He still lost tho 
congratz...1on1s are kinda seldom nowadays but I also tell me m8s to leave meh alone when I found a solo target and I cant remember when i lost the last time .... 
/me heart u, min Jung 
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Xar0
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:05:00 -
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well, most people seem to blob these days... :)
oh and btw, nice gank on my drake some time ago, wish i'd have remembered to turn off my fecking scram when i tried to deagress :P
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fuglife
Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
Il have you know i was fighting a pirate rokh in my hyperion and asked other gang members not to join in just to give him a fair fight. He still lost tho 
Well that's very nice of you but if i was the gangmate i'd say feck off i want to blow him to little bits, you stop firing 
and i hardly think you would have let urself die with a corpmate there ready to help.
DE
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
interesting bu again not 100% accurate.
the lads will confirm this. i try and give the "enemy" usually pirates the best fight possible, a good fight for them means a good fight for the boys.
Ganks are pointless as most of celes apoc play for fun, not overall victory or anything silly like that. ill hold back our gangs and give individual pilots the chance to have a good fight, with possibly the help of a scrambling frig.. this way i can make sure they dont get ganked and can just enjoy it. its hard sometimes as everyone wants to get onto the killmail, but most understand.
If i know of an enemy camp, again at the momemnt pirates, ill try and organise the minimum ammount of ships needed to take them on. putting together a fleet just means no1 will get a fight.
the boys love fighting outnumbered and thats exactly what i try and give them. winning outnumbered beats 1000 ganks.
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Fuglife
Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
Il have you know i was fighting a pirate rokh in my hyperion and asked other gang members not to join in just to give him a fair fight. He still lost tho 
and i hardly think you would have let urself die with a corpmate there ready to help.
DE
it goes something like this "darth help, they have more guys, im going down", ack dude im reading the forums chill out for a bit we will be with u in 5mins:).
d solo. celes apoc new kilboard |

CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: CthulhusSpaceTrip on 18/05/2007 11:21:37 hehehe...I see, I see. signed. winning outnumbered is awesome and I really like it!  and btw when I am on 1on1 I always have a titan waiting to cyno in just in case I lose ... LOLzOr... 
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.18 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: DarkElf Well i have found that most anti pi groups don't tend to fly with 1 or 2 ppl
hush LC 
but most i have come across don't go in a group of more than 10 so can't realy be called a 'blob'.
what most ppl whine about which really bugs me is if a group of 6 go out and there is 1 pirate there they will say AHHHBLOBBWTF? what do they expect to happen? should their fc say "right just 1 or 2 of us will engage and lets risk his ship while the rest of us watch, just so it's a fair fight".
it's not gonna happen. and if a group of 5 or 6 go out then they will probably run into a gang of 10+ and get blobbed themselves. no matter what number u take there will always be a bigger gang and as i say naturally all the ppl in gang are going to engage.
DE
interesting bu again not 100% accurate.
the lads will confirm this. i try and give the "enemy" usually pirates the best fight possible, a good fight for them means a good fight for the boys.
Ganks are pointless as most of celes apoc play for fun, not overall victory or anything silly like that. ill hold back our gangs and give individual pilots the chance to have a good fight, with possibly the help of a scrambling frig.. this way i can make sure they dont get ganked and can just enjoy it. its hard sometimes as everyone wants to get onto the killmail, but most understand.
If i know of an enemy camp, again at the momemnt pirates, ill try and organise the minimum ammount of ships needed to take them on. putting together a fleet just means no1 will get a fight.
the boys love fighting outnumbered and thats exactly what i try and give them. winning outnumbered beats 1000 ganks.
d solo.
totally agree and from my experience with ur group you do just that. my point however is that like what happened recently. my corp mate and i in 2 bs jump through a gate to find about 10 celes guys in system with an astarte on the gate. on scanner were at least 5 bs and 2/3 commands so we decide obviously to sack it and warp off. i got out, he got scrammed so headed for the gate. now it's an astarte vs a mega but obviously a geddon, abaddon, hyperion, absolution etc warps in and also engages. he got back to the gate and jumped but my point is that if ppl are there they 99 times out of 100 they will engage.
agreed tho fighting outnumbered is an amazing buzz and i'd rather have 1 fight like that over 100 easy ganks.
DE
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.18 13:29:00 -
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Anti pirates make things fun on a long gatecamp.But not all of them travel with huge blobs.
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LordChaos
Amarr Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:54:00 -
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I HAVE ARRIVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(im sick btw and at work)    
btw to the op im not going to type your name cause its tooo dam long lol
where u and your corp mates based at? :) cause i might come give u a visit
and i love engaging outnumbered more challenging :) and as i said before i love my pirates :) and i really dont mind if i get blobbed u want to 1vs1 your choice want to 10vs1 i got no problems :)
their aint alot of Anti Pirates compared to pirates for every 50 pirates theirs 1 antipirate maybe even less than that.
and Darth is my HERO ............................ i love to have him in gang :) they always call him primary hehe  
Cya pirates soon :)
The Master Of Chaos
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LordChaos
Amarr Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fuglife You tell em boss!
(can i have my celes forum account back )
and no u cant get access to forums u a noob :)
join my corp first and then i will see if i can convince Dark :)~ The Master Of Chaos
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StANDY90
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: CthulhusSpaceTrip hey there and HAAARRRR!!!1
so why tend anti-piwats to blobb with 15+ gangs in mostly frigs, cruisers and 1 or 2 BS to then go down in flames against heavily armed pirates with only 4 ppl? 
hm somehow I like it but the loOt usually suxOrs ...
its beacuse your awsome.
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Kailiao
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:48:00 -
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I have no problem with anti-pie blobs, I enjoy being outnumberd, easy kills, and practice for pirate vs pirate engagements. I ussually compete with my mates, on how fast we can kill our targets off,lol.
now what i don't like is a 15-3 fight, with the anti's useing massive amounts of ew, and or nos, kills the purity of the fight, and takes any skill and ship fitting knoledge, and chucks it out the window.
Imo they need to make ew mods, only useable on specific ships, but that's another topic.
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Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.05.19 05:00:00 -
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While I hate it when that one extra ship I know you can't take is dropped on me (usually Neutron plated Gankathrons) I remember why I love solo PvP. It's because often times they NEED that many ships to take me down.
90% of 1v1 is too easy to win, taking on a smallish PvP gang (when they don't have excellent EWar support) is fun. Why? Because its actually challenging, unlike other fights.
If you've ever watched Farjung's Reckless vid you'll know a quote that is very applicable here. "To get fights that really get the adrenaline going you have to be a little bit more RECKLESS"
And yeah, 50% of statistics are made on the spot! 
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shhmee eeeeee
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.05.19 11:28:00 -
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pirat = aint-pirat why limit who you kill? if not to make it easy on your self
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Nikita Fontaine
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: CthulhusSpaceTrip hey there and HAAARRRR!!!1
so why tend anti-piwats to blobb with 15+ gangs in mostly frigs, cruisers and 1 or 2 BS to then go down in flames against heavily armed pirates with only 4 ppl? 
hm somehow I like it but the loOt usually suxOrs ...
they usually go down in flames because they are usually made of multiple corps who dont often fight together, communciation between each corp is often poor also ----------------------------------------------- Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ
Directors are like buttons they hold things together.
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Mathias Orsen
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:07:00 -
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I'm an anti-pirate and I normally only fly with my alt. Seems our problems are far different. I got pirates in my system that won't realease thier deathgrip on the station with anything less than 3 to 1 odds.
Take this for instance. Pirate "A" warps to the gate where me and my alt were sitting. Me having a domi and a scorpion (non EW scorp). Pirate "A" waits at the gate for me to attack then he fires.
At this point, I know his gang would show up soon and he would deaggro and jump if need be. He has done this dozens of times already. The result is me telling a friend on the other side of the gate in a Hyperion to jump in and open fire.
About this time, the pirates gang has approched, but not to the gate. The warp to a nearby safespot. The scanner shows them up as Abaddon, anouther Abaddon, and Raven... also the Drake we are firing at.
So at my side was my Dominix, the Hyperion, and the tanking support scorpion (no weapons). The 4 man gang that consisted of bigger ships in a bigger quantity moved from thier SS back to the station. Niether being seen or helping thier friend.
These guys seem to have no problems against the industrial ships, and mission runners that come through thier gate camps to find themselves in a 5-6 vs 1 gank.
It generally applies that pirates are nothing more than a group of cowards. As always, It's the many that give the few a bad name. I've known plenty of great Pirates.
At one time, I was a full time pirate myself. Always flying around solo and often putting myself in impossible odds were I was the one far outnumbered. Often times with odds being up around 5 to 1 against me.
It's actually a rarity to find such a pirate. I do know there are many out thier though. Being a rarity, they can often be far underestimated. Such pirates can push thier own limits and come out with alot of big losses but the result is that they have to learn to be some of the best PVPers in EVE. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get" |

CthulhusSpaceTrip
Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:21:00 -
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First to LordChaos >> We are based in Egg usually.
Originally by: Mathias Orsen I'm an anti-pirate and I normally only fly with my alt. Seems our problems are far different. I got pirates in my system that won't realease thier deathgrip on the station with anything less than 3 to 1 odds.
Take this for instance. Pirate "A" warps to the gate where me and my alt were sitting. Me having a domi and a scorpion (non EW scorp). Pirate "A" waits at the gate for me to attack then he fires.
At this point, I know his gang would show up soon and he would deaggro and jump if need be. He has done this dozens of times already. The result is me telling a friend on the other side of the gate in a Hyperion to jump in and open fire.
About this time, the pirates gang has approched, but not to the gate. The warp to a nearby safespot. The scanner shows them up as Abaddon, anouther Abaddon, and Raven... also the Drake we are firing at.
So at my side was my Dominix, the Hyperion, and the tanking support scorpion (no weapons). The 4 man gang that consisted of bigger ships in a bigger quantity moved from thier SS back to the station. Niether being seen or helping thier friend.
These guys seem to have no problems against the industrial ships, and mission runners that come through thier gate camps to find themselves in a 5-6 vs 1 gank.
It generally applies that pirates are nothing more than a group of cowards. As always, It's the many that give the few a bad name. I've known plenty of great Pirates.
At one time, I was a full time pirate myself. Always flying around solo and often putting myself in impossible odds were I was the one far outnumbered. Often times with odds being up around 5 to 1 against me.
It's actually a rarity to find such a pirate. I do know there are many out thier though. Being a rarity, they can often be far underestimated. Such pirates can push thier own limits and come out with alot of big losses but the result is that they have to learn to be some of the best PVPers in EVE.
IN ur case u tried to fight against wimpy noob pirates I guess...  
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