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![Xanos Blackpaw Xanos Blackpaw](https://images.evetech.net/characters/183514531/portrait?size=64)
Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 18/05/2007 15:37:57 what is the best ship to use in a frig tournament? i usaly fly the punisher or rifter for them and they are realy strong. i was wondering what ships you would use in a T1 frig fight?
The rules is this. T1 frigs. no E-war, no Web, no scram as you cant warp out. T2 equips and guns can be used but no T2 ammo or T2 drones. you can use Nos.
so what ship would you use? whats the frig to rule them all( )?
EDIT: forgot to mention, no faction stuff.
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![Gladiator Jonny Gladiator Jonny](https://images.evetech.net/characters/676322858/portrait?size=64)
Gladiator Jonny
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:38:00 -
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i would say a maulus just for giggles. but no dampners ends that idea
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![ForeverKnight ForeverKnight](https://images.evetech.net/characters/857120776/portrait?size=64)
ForeverKnight
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:46:00 -
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Kestrel, the tank is strong enough and standard missiles do enough damage to screw over anything from 0-30km which means they can't kite you =D
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![Xanos Blackpaw Xanos Blackpaw](https://images.evetech.net/characters/183514531/portrait?size=64)
Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: ForeverKnight Kestrel, the tank is strong enough and standard missiles do enough damage to screw over anything from 0-30km which means they can't kite you =D
sure kestrels are quite good...problem is that alot of people know this so the get targeted fast...
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![DarkElf DarkElf](https://images.evetech.net/characters/236691040/portrait?size=64)
DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:54:00 -
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depends if it's a free for all or 1v1 type thing.
1v1 it depends on the start range but if 15km or more then kestrel just owns everything. if close then a plated auto rifter is the win.
if free for all then u want basically the frig that ppl don't worry about or that ppl know tanks very well otherwise ur gonna die first ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
also btw mate championship is one word just for info ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
DE
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![Xanos Blackpaw Xanos Blackpaw](https://images.evetech.net/characters/183514531/portrait?size=64)
Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 18/05/2007 15:57:49
Originally by: DarkElf depends if it's a free for all or 1v1 type thing.
1v1 it depends on the start range but if 15km or more then kestrel just owns everything. if close then a plated auto rifter is the win.
if free for all then u want basically the frig that ppl don't worry about or that ppl know tanks very well otherwise ur gonna die first ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
also btw mate championship is one word just for info ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
DE
yeah...i'm useing a dual rep cap injector punisher. that works quite well as they usaly give up trying to kill it![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
and no its not championship its champion ship as is the ship thats best![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
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![Rik'tik'ticheck Rik'tik'ticheck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/835804273/portrait?size=64)
Rik'tik'ticheck
Minmatar Isendeldik Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.18 17:30:00 -
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well not that people think it's any good, but an arty rifter might be good =), even without web should be able to track most ships etc, and at best could have better range than the infamous kessy
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![Xanos Blackpaw Xanos Blackpaw](https://images.evetech.net/characters/183514531/portrait?size=64)
Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rik'tik'ticheck well not that people think it's any good, but an arty rifter might be good =), even without web should be able to track most ships etc, and at best could have better range than the infamous kessy
the problem with arty rifters isnt the tracking of the guns...the problem it the PG need of artys, it will make it much harder to fit a good tank on it
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![ReePeR McAllem ReePeR McAllem](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1564943239/portrait?size=64)
ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: ReePeR McAllem on 18/05/2007 19:43:37 Punisher ftw!!!
Yep
[Edit] Thought i'd add.
Punisher with two small reppers with a cap booster and 200's can out tank anything long enough to take it down... really rocks for medium length engagements.
For long engagements the single repping higher resistance tanking punisher is better. Werd
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![Winter Nuclear Winter Nuclear](https://images.evetech.net/characters/107761304/portrait?size=64)
Winter Nuclear
Exiled.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:47:00 -
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Our last FFA frig tourney was won by a... Condor. ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Fit for speed. 2x std launchers w/kinetic, 1x whatever. 1x mwd, 1x sensor booster/cap recharger 1x Nano/OD/CPR/PDU
Works with plain t1 stuff, you only need good cap skills to hold it up.
At the beginning of the fight mwd out and orbit em all at 20k+ . Keep transversal up, stay away from other missileboats, consider your sig radius. Don't let anyone close, a single web will end you fast.
I ran a similar setup and tactic on a Breacher, but lost due to not being carefull enough with the sig radius and range. So practically, you can do the same in a Breacher too. ---
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![Xanos Blackpaw Xanos Blackpaw](https://images.evetech.net/characters/183514531/portrait?size=64)
Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Winter Nuclear Our last FFA frig tourney was won by a... Condor. ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Fit for speed. 2x std launchers w/kinetic, 1x whatever. 1x mwd, 1x sensor booster/cap recharger 1x Nano/OD/CPR/PDU
Works with plain t1 stuff, you only need good cap skills to hold it up.
At the beginning of the fight mwd out and orbit em all at 20k+ . Keep transversal up, stay away from other missileboats, consider your sig radius. Don't let anyone close, a single web will end you fast.
I ran a similar setup and tactic on a Breacher, but lost due to not being carefull enough with the sig radius and range. So practically, you can do the same in a Breacher too.
sounds kinda like a mini-crow![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) might be worth to check out..if nothing else it will **** them of![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![Eardianm Eardianm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/939693482/portrait?size=64)
Eardianm
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.18 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Eardianm on 18/05/2007 20:51:03 I used a condor setup like that just last night. Pitiful damage, but no one is going to hit you. Had to use all non-named t1 too, so with less strict requirements, should work a touch better. Use the missile velocity bonus to stay outside the range of any other missile boat.
2x standard missile
1 sensor booster (essential, since stock condor target range is pants) 1 MWD
1 CPR
Orbit at 40km and spam ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) --------------
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![Phelan Lore Phelan Lore](https://images.evetech.net/characters/103706470/portrait?size=64)
Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.18 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Winter Nuclear Our last FFA frig tourney was won by a... Condor. ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Fit for speed. 2x std launchers w/kinetic, 1x whatever. 1x mwd, 1x sensor booster/cap recharger 1x Nano/OD/CPR/PDU
Works with plain t1 stuff, you only need good cap skills to hold it up.
At the beginning of the fight mwd out and orbit em all at 20k+ . Keep transversal up, stay away from other missileboats, consider your sig radius. Don't let anyone close, a single web will end you fast.
I ran a similar setup and tactic on a Breacher, but lost due to not being carefull enough with the sig radius and range. So practically, you can do the same in a Breacher too.
Yeah I'd agree that a breacher would be best if you could get it fast enough. -
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![DubanFP DubanFP](https://images.evetech.net/characters/147795262/portrait?size=64)
DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.18 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 18/05/2007 21:26:05 Merlin Highs: 2x rocket launchers 2x 150mm ACs Mids: web/scram 2x Medium shield extenders Lows: 2x MAPCs
Thing gets 3000 shields, and a recharge rate to die for with decent skills "for a frig anyways" throw in the merlins resists bonus and goodbye hostiles. ____________
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![Vladimir Tinakin Vladimir Tinakin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/936519153/portrait?size=64)
Vladimir Tinakin
Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 18/05/2007 21:26:05 Merlin Highs: 2x rocket launchers 2x 150mm ACs Mids: web/scram 2x Medium shield extenders Lows: 2x MAPCs
Thing gets 3000 shields, and a recharge rate to die for with decent skills "for a frig anyways" throw in the merlins resists bonus and goodbye hostiles.
Agreed as to survivability, however the merlin is slow as all hell. You NEED an AB, preferably a MWD to be able to hit anything. Especially with an AC/Rocket combo. ----------------------------------------------- Adm Vladimir Tinakin CFO Hadean Drive Yards |
![Sokratesz Sokratesz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/617542418/portrait?size=64)
Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:57:00 -
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Merlin with range setup (rails + light missiles), 2x MAPC, medium extender, 2x tracking comp, target painter = unconventional yet very effective.
Originally by: welsh wizard You might not be able to kill anything but you can sure as hell ignore it and go about your business
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![Altrex Stoppel Altrex Stoppel](https://images.evetech.net/characters/653150167/portrait?size=64)
Altrex Stoppel
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 18/05/2007 23:48:31 Merlin:
2x rocket launchers 2x nos
1x MWD 1x medium shield booster 1x Invul 1x small cap injector
1x PDU 1x MAPC
fun fun fun...yes your cap will bounce around like its on ***** lol
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![Guillame Herschel Guillame Herschel](https://images.evetech.net/characters/251682479/portrait?size=64)
Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.19 00:14:00 -
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Imicus with 3 Scout drones. Just fit it to go fast, and release the dogs of war. The Maulus has room for 2 scout drones. It's second best. I bet either one could pwn a frig fight.
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![Lin Dei Lin Dei](https://images.evetech.net/characters/135863187/portrait?size=64)
Lin Dei
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.05.19 03:17:00 -
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Yes but the imiscus only has a 2-2-2 slot layout, what could you possibly put in there? I think it would be fun to try it out :D . Any setups for one?
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![Masu'di Masu'di](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1290188579/portrait?size=64)
Masu'di
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.05.19 04:32:00 -
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with those rules i'd definitely put my ISK on a Breacher with MWD and Standard Missiles.
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![Nox Solaris Nox Solaris](https://images.evetech.net/characters/831057511/portrait?size=64)
Nox Solaris
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Posted - 2007.05.19 05:22:00 -
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MWD Kestrel w/ kin rockets (T2 or Arb launchers to punch up the ROF). Nanos or 200mm plate IIs in low.
non-MWD & tank w/ std. launchers, extenders, MAPC in low.
Since there's really only two real flavors in a frigfest (speed or tank), the speedsters get popped by missiles unless they can outrange them with guns and the tanks are left to slug it out afterward. In a ffa blob the speediest run out of the fray and come back in to pick off the injured.
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![Lusian Lusian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/667526292/portrait?size=64)
Lusian
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Posted - 2007.05.19 05:57:00 -
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I would fir rigs on togive it the extra power my frig would need. Typically people use more then one type of damage so i would have s frig with low slots ad hight slots. Just for the power, not reallt interested in speed.
you can always get nosed and wiped out with drones :)
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![king jks king jks](https://images.evetech.net/characters/181639113/portrait?size=64)
king jks
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.19 08:34:00 -
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Punisher, bleeder setup. gogogo.
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![Christopher Dalran Christopher Dalran](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1010937820/portrait?size=64)
Christopher Dalran
Gallente Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.19 20:33:00 -
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Look at whats there, No e-war and No webs.
Looking right at that i can tell you that anything thats faster than everyone else and has the longest range will destroy everyone as long as they keep an eye out on where people are.
I know it a little unorthodox but if you use a Rifter set up for speed and slap Artys on it your going to have and arty platform that can stay outside of everyone range.
Use direction to adjust transversal, if your outside of everyones range fly directly away from your target , if someone is inside firing range then fly perpendicular to their path. This is all roughy, add radial/transversal velocity to your overview to see what yields highest and lowest in different situation.
Its realy a no brainer, without the ability to use webs speed is king. Short range ships just cant keep you close enough to hit.
Someone with long range weapons may give you trouble but just make sure your faster and try to get their attention. Position yourself so their optimal firing range is close to oclose range ships (they pick close targets) and hope those ships open fire. This usually is the case unless people have made secret alliances to increase their chance of winning (this also happens quite frequently). ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
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![ReePeR McAllem ReePeR McAllem](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1564943239/portrait?size=64)
ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.05.19 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: king jks Punisher, bleeder setup. gogogo.
This is a noob pvp set-up. No half decent player needs 3 CPR's on a punisher.
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![Jake Stevens Jake Stevens](https://images.evetech.net/characters/919280976/portrait?size=64)
Jake Stevens
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.19 22:34:00 -
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Nano kestrel... get it so you can perma mwd and you win. It's imba and everyone will hate you, but you'll win ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) ------------- yarr :( |
![Rik'tik'ticheck Rik'tik'ticheck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/835804273/portrait?size=64)
Rik'tik'ticheck
Minmatar Isendeldik Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:58:00 -
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for an arty rifter you could try the folowing =)
==[ RIFTER ]==
HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 7 | 7] 250mm Light 'Scout' Artillery I - [ 7 | 7] 250mm Light 'Scout' Artillery I - [ 7 | 7] 250mm Light 'Scout' Artillery I - [ 0 | 0] Launcher Slot
MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 22 | 25] Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction - [ 22 | 25] Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction - [ 15 | 23] Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 0 | 15] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I - [ 0 | 15] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I - [ 0 | 15] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
just bring bot damage and range ammo and go for it =)
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