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EzSnake Caldari The Silent Rage R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 12:28:00 - [151] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 23/05/2007 12:19:02 Originally by: EzSnake Originally by: xRazoRx #1: I have never seen 2nd level of any plex. #3: Im looking through the alliance mail and get intrested why there r corps quitting smashkill. Hmmm.... self-busted spy...NICE!! They are at war with you. That means, they get an eve mail whenever one corp leaves your alliance(s). It was meant as a joke mate..sorry it didnt come off right. ________________________________________________ --== Contact me in-game for True Sansha / Domination / Dread gear @ dirt cheap prices!!!! ==--
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2007.05.23 12:38:00 - [152] Originally by: EzSnake Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 23/05/2007 12:19:02 Originally by: EzSnake Originally by: xRazoRx #1: I have never seen 2nd level of any plex. #3: Im looking through the alliance mail and get intrested why there r corps quitting smashkill. Hmmm.... self-busted spy...NICE!! They are at war with you. That means, they get an eve mail whenever one corp leaves your alliance(s). It was meant as a joke mate..sorry it didnt come off right. Uhm, sorry, maybe I've read too many whines today.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.23 12:57:00 - [153] Edited by: xRazoRx on 23/05/2007 12:57:36 Originally by: AVENGUARD Harass too strong a word mildly annoy, slightly amuse? http://www.interexodus.com/RKAlliance/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=134 We have some different information :D Go down to red alliance killboard if you are intrested. In fact, we have to compare both sides' kills on their boards. Its a pity many people arent posting their losses. Death is only the beginning...
AVENGUARD Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 13:24:00 - [154] Edited by: AVENGUARD on 23/05/2007 13:23:22 RA killboard is a cartoon, and why would I check that?
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.23 13:41:00 - [155] So, your position is "i am right, you are wrong, stfu"? Death is only the beginning...
AVENGUARD Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 14:02:00 - [156] Nope just don't get your answer to my answer. Why check RA killmails for RA to xxDeathxx Mails - niether of us are RA??
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.23 14:09:00 - [157] Oh, sorry :) I forgot to say that we post on RA board. It has no alliance to alliance comparement option though. Death is only the beginning...
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 15:13:00 - [158] KB Posting is for nuubs. who cares about killboard stats. We all know who is killing who and who to give respect too... I for one don't need a kill board to tell me how good or bad one is doing...
SencneS Amarr Keepers of the Holy Bagel	Posted - 2007.05.23 21:47:00 - [159] Hear yeh, hear yeh! I personally found it baffling WHY anyone would want Geminate. It's the ARM PIT of EvE. Here is an example - After what could be amounted at 400million in Moon Probes, 4000+ moons scanned and thousands of man hours. There are...... less then 20 Moons worthy of Mining. And when I mean worthy of Mining I mean making close to 1 billion a month. That is including multiple Moons to make T2 Components or even T2 parts. Here is the complete list of Complex reactions you can make. Fulleride - 1 System, across 4 moons, Yes 1 Moon Harvester per moon. Sylramic Fibers - 3 Systems, each reactions is across at least 2 moons. Tungsten Carbide - 6 Systems, across many moons. Titanium Carbide - 1 System, across 2 moon. However This system CAN produce 40,000 per hour with another 2 moons (Setup differently). This is actually the most valuable System in Geminate. Because at full production 4 large towers, you can Produce 40,000 Titanium Carbide an hour. Which at todays price is - 3,400,000 (That's 2,448,000,000 a month) but two of those moons also makes Sylramic Fibers. Which is why that system is the most valuable because together you can make Titanium Diborite Armor Plate across 4 moons. This is the -> ONLY <- system that can allow you to do that. This system also has 1 moon that can make Tungsten Carbide by itself. Probably the single most valuable system in Geminate but no one else knew about it. That's pathetic. 4163 Moons scanned... THAT'S IT! Simple reactions has plentiful but for that many moons, that's pathetic amount of complex reactions. TWO, 8/10 Plexes where you'll use more value in Torps and Ammo then you will gaining. Ore is about as valuable as anywhere else in 0.0 but pretty much the lowest grade you can find. Only a couple of system are actually worthy of mining however. Ratting - Nothing like Warp Scrambling, Sensor Jamming sub 1mil rats, so no ISK there either (Compared to other 0.0 regions I've been in this is by far the lowest Ratting yield I've seen.) Exploration - After personally spending a month and millions of ISK in Probes my total exploration experience has been easily toppled by my 1 week back in empire. Yes it's better to explore in Empire then in Geminate. It's Outposts are in bad systems, and regardless of how much you try, the fact an NCP station exists means you can never really truly kick anyone out of the region. This is also compounded by the fact the Region itself is split up into extremely twisted directions on the map! Take a look for yourself! So many entry points and ways to get around there is truly no real choke point. So even Military movement of alliance and hostile fleets can totally bypass each other. Let along maintaining security of any of the 6 PIPES in and out of the the Region. Yes Geminate is truly the armpit of EVE. But hey - BOB wants Drone Space, North and South around around Empire is going too slow, so come to the weak point between both North and South Coalitions! Mark my words, the very second Bob secure Geminate both North and South Coalitions will collapse within a month. Geminate may be a stinking ISK PIT of EVE but is it the monumental Linchpin of EVE's WAR. ---------------------------------- Send ISK to SencneS for good Kama!
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:01:00 - [160] I don';t post my losses. I dont psot my kills either. I kill alot more then i lose, so yall infact should be thankful im not posting. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:04:00 - [161] Originally by: SencneS .... But hey - BOB wants Drone Space, North and South around around Empire is going too slow, so come to the weak point between both North and South Coalitions! Mark my words, the very second Bob secure Geminate both North and South Coalitions will collapse within a month. Somehow you lost me here.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:09:00 - [162] Edited by: Graalum on 23/05/2007 22:08:07 Originally by: SencneS Hear yeh, hear yeh! having lived in geminate for almost 2 years, QFT!! except the linchpin thing that is.
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:53:00 - [163] Originally by: SencneS Geminate may be a stinking ISK PIT of EVE but is it the monumental Linchpin of EVE's WAR.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.23 23:32:00 - [164] Originally by: Orc A I don';t post my losses. I dont psot my kills either. I kill alot more then i lose, so yall infact should be thankful im not posting. Well, maybe people around you die more often? Almost everyone use KB to measure their, ugh, leetness. So be a good mate and help your alliance with that :) Death is only the beginning...
Asylum Seaker Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:20:00 - [165] The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.05.24 05:37:00 - [166] Edited by: Admiral Nova on 24/05/2007 05:36:49 Originally by: SencneS Titanium Carbide - 1 System, across 2 moon. However This system CAN produce 40,000 per hour with another 2 moons (Setup differently). This is actually the most valuable System in Geminate. Because at full production 4 large towers, you can Produce 40,000 Titanium Carbide an hour. Which at todays price is - 3,400,000 (That's 2,448,000,000 a month) but two of those moons also makes Sylramic Fibers. Which is why that system is the most valuable because together you can make Titanium Diborite Armor Plate across 4 moons. This is the -> ONLY <- system that can allow you to do that. This system also has 1 moon that can make Tungsten Carbide by itself. Probably the single most valuable system in Geminate but no one else knew about it. I don't think you've really thought about this. Most of these things can be made with 3 moons. None can be made with a single moon. There is one moon with 4 products on it, but you need to use 2 simple reactors on that moon and 2 complex reactors on another 2 moons. 40,000 of any carbide product would require at least 6 moons. You might 'just' be able to squeeze that down if you use the double stacked caldari towers, but you would be having to empty the silos constantly. :\ But yeah. There's not much of value there. Really just barely enough to pay for POS fuel if you put in the work.
SencneS Amarr Keepers of the Holy Bagel	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:19:00 - [167] Originally by: Admiral Nova Edited by: Admiral Nova on 24/05/2007 05:36:49 Originally by: SencneS Titanium Carbide - 1 System, across 2 moon. However This system CAN produce 40,000 per hour with another 2 moons (Setup differently). This is actually the most valuable System in Geminate. Because at full production 4 large towers, you can Produce 40,000 Titanium Carbide an hour. Which at todays price is - 3,400,000 (That's 2,448,000,000 a month) but two of those moons also makes Sylramic Fibers. Which is why that system is the most valuable because together you can make Titanium Diborite Armor Plate across 4 moons. This is the -> ONLY <- system that can allow you to do that. This system also has 1 moon that can make Tungsten Carbide by itself. Probably the single most valuable system in Geminate but no one else knew about it. I don't think you've really thought about this. Most of these things can be made with 3 moons. None can be made with a single moon. There is one moon with 4 products on it, but you need to use 2 simple reactors on that moon and 2 complex reactors on another 2 moons. 40,000 of any carbide product would require at least 6 moons. You might 'just' be able to squeeze that down if you use the double stacked caldari towers, but you would be having to empty the silos constantly. :\ But yeah. There's not much of value there. Really just barely enough to pay for POS fuel if you put in the work. 40,000 Carbide is exactly what we where making with exactly 4 moons. I should know I set it up. Here we go. Moon 1 - Evaporated Deposits + Silicates Setup Caldari Tower. 2 Moon Harvesters 1 Medium Reactor 1 Reactor 3 Silos 2 Coupling Arrays 1 Corp Hanger Lots of Non-CPU using guns Moon 2 - Chromium + Titanium Setup 2 Moon Harvesters 1 Medium Reactor 1 Reactor 3 Silos 2 Coupling Arrays 1 Corp Hanger Lots of Non-CPU using guns These two moons require the following attention. Once a day - Go offline the output silo, move the Carbide to the corp hanger, Online the Silo. Time About 30 seconds, excluding travel time. Every eight days - Fuel the tower for another 8 days, Go Offline the excess Silos on both Towers, and move the excess Simple reaction to the other moon. About 5 minutes, excluding travel time. Once a month go take - 7,200,000 units of Carbide from each tower (Which requires a Freighter anyway and move it to Jita. Output - 20,000 Titanium Carbide an hour, 480,000 a day 14,400,000 units in 30 days. Value 85-90 each - Income - 1,260,000,000. Fuel requirements - ~300mil Net 900-1,000mil. Second group of moons same as the first. Thank you, please come again. ---------------------------------- Send ISK to SencneS for good Kama!

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