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Risar Surtr	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:46:00 - [1] So I have some decent skills at this point (8+m) and I have been toying around with BS's for a few weeks. I have access to most T2 gear, but not quite up to T2 large turrets yet. So bearing that in mind I have been running an Apoc setup like this: High's 8x Mega modulated pulse energy beam w/xray (balance range v damage) Med: 2 cap recharger II's Optical tracking computer codebreaker/drone nav/AB/random as needed Low: 1600mm LARII 2 T2 specific hardners 1 EANM II (or another hardner) 2 spots with HSII's or Tracking Enhancer II's Rigs: 2x CCC Drones: Hammerheads This allows me to run everything almost non-stop (cap need: 53 regen: 49) but I dont do much in the way of damage. I DO NOT want to fit a cap injector since that puts me at the mercy of the size of my cargo hold, and some missions are longer than my cargo hold is big. So what recomendations do people have about getting my damage up while still having a solid tank. Raw I am outputting about 400DPS with 2 HSII's according to quickfit but I cant hit frigates or cruisers for damn. Equipping TEII's in place of the HSII's drops my damage down to about 300DPS raw, but I hit about 85% on cruisers. It seems like it takes forever to actually run a lvl 3, 4's are insanely long. An abaddon gets me up to 520DPS (with the same setup) but I can only run everything for about 2 and a half minutes before I die (again I refuse to use a cap injector for PVE). A geddon gets me 475DPS, but I run short of a full fitting (cpu and I have electronics 5 and WU 5) and the cap is pathetic. So what is the best "speed" running lvl 3/4 amarrian battleship ? I would guess apoc, but it seems to take a long time to chew through anything other than bloods (which dont come along very often).
Stephar The High Priest	Posted - 2007.05.19 02:23:00 - [2] Try something like this with an Abaddon (copying & pasting your setup with a few adjustments): High's 8x Mega modulated pulse energy beam Med: 3 cap recharger II's 1 AB / tracking computer / cap recharger II Low: 2x LARII 2 T2 specific hardners 1 EANM II 2 beta cap relay Rigs: 3x CCC Drones: Hammerheads Should be sustainable, or close to it... not sure what your cap / controlled burst skill is like. A couple of suggestions regarding your original setup: I wouldn't use plates or tracking enhancers. If you want tracking, swap a cap recharger for a tracking computer, and then swap in a cap relay where you would have put an enhancer. Tracking computer + cap relay > tracking enhancer + cap recharger. And plates are more of a PvP thing... I'd go with a relay/hardener/heatsink in its place.
Risar Surtr	Posted - 2007.05.19 03:30:00 - [3] With that setup on an abaddon with a HSII instead of the EANM, I get 480DPS and can sustain the entire thing for about 5 minutes with gamma. xray drops me to 446DPS and I can sustain it all for 8+ minutes. If I add controlled bursts 5 and energy systems operations 5 (both are 4+ currently) I can sustain it with any T1 crystal and with MF I get 520DPS. Not bad. thanks. Anybody think they can do better ?
Stephar The High Priest	Posted - 2007.05.19 03:36:00 - [4] You could also swap a LAR II for a MAR II for the short term... that will help with the cap issues, and will be enough tank for most missions.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.05.19 04:05:00 - [5] Abaddon mission setup: Highs: 8x Tachs Meds: 1x AB 1x TC 1x SB 1x Cap injector Lows: 1x LAR 1x DCU 2x HS 2x EANM 1x CPR win
Kintai mangi	Posted - 2007.05.19 05:15:00 - [6] Edited by: Kintai mangi on 19/05/2007 05:13:06 Tach's dont do well against cruisers or even some BC's they are the torps of the turret world. Plus with that setup when you run out of cap boosts .... lose. Correct me if I'm wrong but do you have a shield boost listed on an amarr ship ? How odd. An AB on a battleship wont do much since most rats can still keep you far enough out that you dont gain much by using it, plus with tach's you already have silly range for missions.
Sword Coast	Posted - 2007.05.19 08:39:00 - [7] Edited by: Sword Coast on 19/05/2007 08:38:16 8x Heavy Beam II's 3x Cap Charger II's, 1x Fleeting Webber 1600mm Rolled, 1x EANM, 3x Hardeners, 23% cap Booster (i forget the name), 1 LAR II 2x CCC's, 1x Aux Nano Pump Rigs I can run lvl 4's and i have less than 2 mil SP with this setup and its runs fine. I have not tried lvl 4 Blockade though.
Utani Amarr BlackTalon Mining Corp	Posted - 2007.05.19 09:38:00 - [8] I use this on lvl 4's His 8 x t2 Mega Pulse Mids 1 x t2 Tracking Comp 3 x t2 Cap Rechargers Lows 1 x t2 Large Armour Rep 3 x t2 Active Hardeners 1 x t2 EANM 1 x t2 Damage Control 1 x t2 Heat Sink Rigs 3 x ccc rigs Drones 5 x t2 light 5 x t2 med Hardeners For Blood/Sansha I use (90/61/63/91) 2 x Active Therm 1 x Active Em For Merc's/Drones etc (84/84/85/87) I remove the t2 hs and add an extra t2 eanm 1 x Active Therm 1 x Active Kinetic 1 x Active Explosive Never worked out the dps on this but it kills bs pretty good and can tank well
Vaine Amarr Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:23:00 - [9] Abaddon: High: 8x Modulated mega pulse Mid: 1x shadow serpentis tracking comp 1x fleeting web 1x cap recharger II 1x electrochemical cap booster Low: 1x large repper II 2x true sansha eanm 2x rat specific hardener II 2x dark blood heat sink rigs: 3x CCC drones: 7x vespa II __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it? O rly?
Vaine Amarr Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Abaddon mission setup: Highs: 8x Tachs Meds: 1x AB 1x TC 1x SB 1x Cap injector Lows: 1x LAR 1x DCU 2x HS 2x EANM 1x CPR win Btw as for this setup: not enough PG, or if you fit PG rigs; not enough cap; FAIL. __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it? O rly?
Silent Laugh Spartan Dynamics	Posted - 2007.05.19 15:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Kintai mangi Edited by: Kintai mangi on 19/05/2007 05:13:06 Tach's dont do well against cruisers or even some BC's they are the torps of the turret world. Plus with that setup when you run out of cap boosts .... lose. Correct me if I'm wrong but do you have a shield boost listed on an amarr ship ? How odd. An AB on a battleship wont do much since most rats can still keep you far enough out that you dont gain much by using it, plus with tach's you already have silly range for missions. Just so you know m8, SB can also stand for Sensor Booster .......................................... Quafe is good for you, mkay?
Draoidh Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.19 16:31:00 - [12] I just moved to an Abaddon for level 4's. Here is my setup so far, it is not the most uber but does enough dmg and I do not need to watch my cap. High's 8x Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beams (Multifrequency) Med's 4x Cap Rechargers II Low's Large Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II 4x Rat Specific Hardners Mark I Generator: Capacitor Power Relay Rigs: 2x CCC Drone's: 7x Hammerheads II As is I have no problem tanking level 4 missions. Once I have enough parts to make another CCC, I'll be dropping the CPR for a Heat Sink. Change to a different crystal for better range and still do more damage. At that point I do not think there is much more tweaking I need for Sansha/Blood missions. --D
zwerg mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.05.19 17:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Sword Coast Edited by: Sword Coast on 19/05/2007 08:38:16 8x Heavy Beam II's 3x Cap Charger II's, 1x Fleeting Webber 1600mm Rolled, 1x EANM, 3x Hardeners, 23% cap Booster (i forget the name), 1 LAR II 2x CCC's, 1x Aux Nano Pump Rigs I can run lvl 4's and i have less than 2 mil SP with this setup and its runs fine. I have not tried lvl 4 Blockade though. 2mil sp and large II weaps. ye... sure honey. sry to hijack a bit. ... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.05.19 17:49:00 - [14] Originally by: zwerg Originally by: Sword Coast Edited by: Sword Coast on 19/05/2007 08:38:16 8x Heavy Beam II's 3x Cap Charger II's, 1x Fleeting Webber 1600mm Rolled, 1x EANM, 3x Hardeners, 23% cap Booster (i forget the name), 1 LAR II 2x CCC's, 1x Aux Nano Pump Rigs I can run lvl 4's and i have less than 2 mil SP with this setup and its runs fine. I have not tried lvl 4 Blockade though. 2mil sp and large II weaps. ye... sure honey. sry to hijack a bit. Heavy Beam IIs are medium weapons... honey. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander
Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.19 18:58:00 - [15] Edited by: Kerdrak on 19/05/2007 18:56:25 I use this setup with 0 problems : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=516525 HI: 8x Mega modulated Energy Beam with MF, UV and IR lens. MED: 4 Cap Recharger II Low: LARII, DCII, EANMII, 2x Hardeners II, HSII, Beta Cap Relay. Rigs: 3xCCC You can remove the HS for another hardener if the mission is hard. All runs 24/7 ________________________________________

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