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Zee Spy Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Zee Spy on 21/05/2007 04:33:24 Edited by: Zee Spy on 21/05/2007 04:30:07 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0705/Minmatar_Shuttles_-_Jita_Prices.bmp http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0705/Gallente_Shuttles_-_Jita_Prices.bmp http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0705/Caldari_Shuttles_-_Jita_Prices.bmp http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0705/Amarr_Shuttles_-_Jita_Prices.bmp Edited to make em links
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:40:00 - [2] samething was in rens other day. Join The Fight With Promo Today
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:43:00 - [3] .. or it could be isk sellers at work. "to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
SumDum AirHawk Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:43:00 - [4] Nope, that's pretty standard. As with many MMO's there are always *******s trying to make a buck the easy way. I see it everywhere, and my only guess is that people accidentally buy stuff from the top of the list when they are in a hurry. Usually these people actually go out of their way to make the price at least look similar to normal prices, but just with extra 000 at the end. AHE wants YOU!
Zee Spy Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:44:00 - [5] Originally by: SumDum Nope, that's pretty standard. As with many MMO's there are always *******s trying to make a buck the easy way. I see it everywhere, and my only guess is that people accidentally buy stuff from the top of the list when they are in a hurry. Usually these people actually go out of their way to make the price at least look similar to normal prices, but just with extra 000 at the end. I agree with you there, but some of these prices are just cRaZy!
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.21 04:45:00 - [6] Originally by: SumDum Nope, that's pretty standard. As with many MMO's there are always *******s trying to make a buck the easy way. I see it everywhere, and my only guess is that people accidentally buy stuff from the top of the list when they are in a hurry. Usually these people actually go out of their way to make the price at least look similar to normal prices, but just with extra 000 at the end. yer but they dn;nt get the isk the guy who is selling lowest price shuttle does I think, although now I thinkabout it thatmakes no sense. Join The Fight With Promo Today
New Soi The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.21 06:13:00 - [7] Originally by: SumDum Nope, that's pretty standard. As with many MMO's there are always *******s trying to make a buck the easy way. I see it everywhere, and my only guess is that people accidentally buy stuff from the top of the list when they are in a hurry. Usually these people actually go out of their way to make the price at least look similar to normal prices, but just with extra 000 at the end. This is true, however, it doesn't work. When someone buys that billion isk shuttle, the billion isk does not go to the seller of that scamshuttle, but to the seller of the cheapest shuttle. So unless these scammers also hold the cheapest shuttles, they'll never get anything for this. ~Soi ______________________________
Fswd	Posted - 2007.05.21 06:17:00 - [8] Simple, ppl are idiots and other idiots prey on them. Buying scord for half the price works too --- So I flame and troll when the occasion calls for it. So what are you gonna do about it?
Omak Topal Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.21 06:31:00 - [9] Edited by: Omak Topal on 21/05/2007 06:29:57 or someone just wants to get the avarage price up. and its not just shuttles i've seen other stuff gone up in price too, like iteron mark 5s ------ <imagen a verry nice graphical signature here>
Zee Spy Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.05.21 07:24:00 - [10] I for one, won't stand for this anymore! Look out Veldspar roids here I come. Cheep shuttles for all! ------------ No this is not my main, I just like her picture better :P ------------
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:05:00 - [11] BMP
Zeebakes Direct Intent Blind Beavers	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Zee Spy I for one, won't stand for this anymore! forgot to say: /queue music: "We're Not Going to Take it" ------- Originally by: CCP kieron <Stallone voice>I'm not going to Candy Mountain!</Stallone> -------
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Omak Topal i've seen other stuff gone up in price too, like iteron mark 5s This one really annoyed me, so I went round the places that there was multi million ISK Iterons and put a few up for sale at the cheapest price. I sold a few Iterons and hopefully ****ed off a scammer.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:11:00 - [14] When selling a overpriced shuttle, the bogus seller is not guarenteed the isk, rather the isk goes to the cheapest seller on the same station. E.G Scammer places Amarr shuttle at 100mil Normal dude places Amarr shuttle at 8k at the same station Buyer buys shuttle at 100mil. The isk goes into the normal dude's wallet and not the scammers wallet. Try it, find a station with overpriced shuttles and sell shuttles at cost. You will be cheaper than anyone else and get the megabucks when someone falls for someone else's scam. -- Billion Isk Mission
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:33:00 - [15] intersting
SumDum AirHawk Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Lord WarATron When selling a overpriced shuttle, the bogus seller is not guarenteed the isk, rather the isk goes to the cheapest seller on the same station. E.G Scammer places Amarr shuttle at 100mil Normal dude places Amarr shuttle at 8k at the same station Buyer buys shuttle at 100mil. The isk goes into the normal dude's wallet and not the scammers wallet. Try it, find a station with overpriced shuttles and sell shuttles at cost. You will be cheaper than anyone else and get the megabucks when someone falls for someone else's scam. Now that is interesting indeed. AHE wants YOU!
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.05.21 09:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord WarATron W Try it, find a station with overpriced shuttles and sell shuttles at cost. You will be cheaper than anyone else and get the megabucks when someone falls for someone else's scam. Hmm, so if you intentionally do this, and keep the money, you are, imho, no different from the "scammer".
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.21 09:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Lord WarATron When selling a overpriced shuttle, the bogus seller is not guarenteed the isk, rather the isk goes to the cheapest seller on the same station. E.G Scammer places Amarr shuttle at 100mil Normal dude places Amarr shuttle at 8k at the same station Buyer buys shuttle at 100mil. The isk goes into the normal dude's wallet and not the scammers wallet. Try it, find a station with overpriced shuttles and sell shuttles at cost. You will be cheaper than anyone else and get the megabucks when someone falls for someone else's scam. Is this also the case when you buy something specifically from a sellorder? For example if you hate people who underbid by 0.00...001 isk and rather pay that much more to buy it from someone who doesn't or know the seller and get a refund if you buy from him.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 09:16:00 - [19] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/05/2007 09:14:42 Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: Lord WarATron When selling a overpriced shuttle, the bogus seller is not guarenteed the isk, rather the isk goes to the cheapest seller on the same station. E.G Scammer places Amarr shuttle at 100mil Normal dude places Amarr shuttle at 8k at the same station Buyer buys shuttle at 100mil. The isk goes into the normal dude's wallet and not the scammers wallet. Try it, find a station with overpriced shuttles and sell shuttles at cost. You will be cheaper than anyone else and get the megabucks when someone falls for someone else's scam. Is this also the case when you buy something specifically from a sellorder? For example if you hate people who underbid by 0.00...001 isk and rather pay that much more to buy it from someone who doesn't or know the seller and get a refund if you buy from him. Im not sure what you mean. But if you are describing.... Player 1 Sells Raven for 100mil Player 2 sells Raven At same station for 99,999,999 isk Buyer buys a raven for 100mil. The 100mil goes to player 2 and players 2's raven gets taken off the market. The market will always give you the cheapist item from the same station, even if you pay more. On the transaction logs, Player 2 will notice that he gets 100mil isk as well insted of 99,999,999 isk, so he has benifited from player 1's higher sell order. Remember - it only happen at the same station. -- Billion Isk Mission
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.21 10:17:00 - [20] Every time you upload BMPs to EVE-files, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.21 10:45:00 - [21] so if you are going to use this scam you got to make sure you got both a high and the lowest sell order. you'll never jump alone Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Agor Dirdonen	Posted - 2007.05.21 10:54:00 - [22] Meh, you mean people don't order their sell list from cheapest to expensive? Can't choose the wrong one if you start from the top (cheapest around) and then slowly scroll down till you find one that's in the station. All these real expensive shuttles will always be at the bottom of the list so you can't choose one by accident.
heheheh Singularity. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.05.21 10:54:00 - [23] u/f people cant come up with a decent scam so they just do this crap that they learnt in wow to try and get more ISK. Doesnt work very often though, it actually costs people maore than it makes them in some cases, but most dont realise that.
Kramer Verone Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.21 11:07:00 - [24] Edited by: Kramer Verone on 21/05/2007 11:06:23 pro scammer tip: the scammer is also the guy selling the lowest priced shuttles, sometimes on alt.
Scordef	Posted - 2007.05.21 11:24:00 - [25] Here's a wonderous, magical tip: Click on the 'Price' title when viewing the market and it will sort everything you look at by price (ascending or descending). Make it so it sorts ascending. From then on, unless you're a complete tard, you'll never accidentally buy overpriced or scam items from the top of the list. Then again you'd have to be a complete tard to buy overpriced/scam items even without doing a price sort. All it takes is one eye open. You don't even have to use both.
lofty29 Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.21 11:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Dark Shikari Every time you upload BMPs to EVE-files, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. Every time you think of a kitten, God smites a tachikoma. Please, think of the tachikomas. --- My sig has gone into exile This poster likes to tempt forum mods and has been voted most likely to get killed by an angry alligator - Ductoris
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.21 11:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Lord WarATron Im not sure what you mean. But if you are describing.... Player 1 Sells Raven for 100mil Player 2 sells Raven At same station for 99,999,999 isk Buyer buys a raven for 100mil... No. Same example. However, I know player 1 and he gives me a 10 mil refund if I buy ships from him. Or I just feel like paying more. Whatever. So I rightclick-buy item on his sellorder directly to buy from that specific sellorder and are not using the generic "buy item" button. AFAIK you buy then the item from the sellorder you specified and not another one. Also, using the normal "buy item" button gives me always the price of the cheapest offer anyway so I do not see how it would be possible to get the price for a scammers offer there. That could only happen if the buyer changes the price listed there, but why he would do that escapes me.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Dark Shikari Every time you upload BMPs to EVE-files, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. What if my family was slaughtered by ninja kittens? - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:18:00 - [29] Originally by: Dark Shikari Every time you upload BMPs to EVE-files, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. i prefer puppies but still
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: Lord WarATron Im not sure what you mean. But if you are describing.... Player 1 Sells Raven for 100mil Player 2 sells Raven At same station for 99,999,999 isk Buyer buys a raven for 100mil... No. Same example. However, I know player 1 and he gives me a 10 mil refund if I buy ships from him. Or I just feel like paying more. Whatever. So I rightclick-buy item on his sellorder directly to buy from that specific sellorder and are not using the generic "buy item" button. AFAIK you buy then the item from the sellorder you specified and not another one. Also, using the normal "buy item" button gives me always the price of the cheapest offer anyway so I do not see how it would be possible to get the price for a scammers offer there. That could only happen if the buyer changes the price listed there, but why he would do that escapes me. Ok I understand what you mean. In a list of 20 buy orders, you want to buy one from your friend. In that case, even if you manually right click the one your friend set, it will default to buying from the cheapist seller. -- Billion Isk Mission
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:27:00 - [31] Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: Lord WarATron Im not sure what you mean. But if you are describing.... Player 1 Sells Raven for 100mil Player 2 sells Raven At same station for 99,999,999 isk Buyer buys a raven for 100mil... No. Same example. However, I know player 1 and he gives me a 10 mil refund if I buy ships from him. Or I just feel like paying more. Whatever. So I rightclick-buy item on his sellorder directly to buy from that specific sellorder and are not using the generic "buy item" button. AFAIK you buy then the item from the sellorder you specified and not another one. Also, using the normal "buy item" button gives me always the price of the cheapest offer anyway so I do not see how it would be possible to get the price for a scammers offer there. That could only happen if the buyer changes the price listed there, but why he would do that escapes me. Wrong Aramendel, even if you choose offer 1 for 100 mil, you will buy raven 2 and give the isk to player 2. It was done to avoid isk exchange between trial accounts and normal accounts, and to reduce isk selling.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:31:00 - [32] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/05/2007 12:30:41 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig What if my family was slaughtered by ninja kittens? - Gob Who cares about ninja kittens? If I get 100mil for your shuttle that I put on the market for 4k, so thats all that matters -- Billion Isk Mission
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.05.21 12:48:00 - [33] I noticed that when going to Stacmon. I almost bought an overpriced gallente shuttle in a gallente station ! Whoever had enough ISK to clear the NPC orders isn't a casual trader. Shuttles are pretty useless for +sec people , anyway... buy a slasher , cheapskate

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