Wouldn't it be cool if one day you see your structure being hid by the local faction NPC. Them dropping caps, and shooting at your structure. Putting it into reinforcement, and creating timers to respond to making you have to protect even to the local NPC. I see a problem in this game with Citadels being dropped in random. Some corps not even using them, almost a waste and honestly who needs 5 citadels in systems their no longer using. I think this would be a start to something interesting, and why has CCP dropped the ball on this. Think about it, a actually agent NPC being paid to go attack structures, wouldn't that be cool. What do you guys think about something like this, your honest opinion on Citadels littering the game?

There are corporations which do this. If you talk to your local mercenary corp I'm sure they'd be able to offer you a reasonable price for doing the job. The whole point of player owned structures is to create player driven content. The idea of offloading this to NPC's because you're too lazy to get off your fat arse and do it doesn't fit with that paradigm.

So tell me how its player driven when one player has 30 citadels not being used in high sec and there are plenty of stations in those systems. NPC's would force a player to respond, there for it to be player driven content. Making you have to defend it. or fuel it and actually manage it. If you don't see a problem with the Citadels being deployed so random and so much and for no real purpose. Then technically its not something you look for in general and well progressing the game in that area might change things. Having actual artificial A.I. NPCS that go after SOV or structures. There's not enough players or time in life, in eve to take out every Citadel that sits in high sec or low sec or null sec. With no fuel and no one to managing it, their just trash sitting there. Not forcing those people to log back in daily to check their system and or surroundings and actually doing something in space. Think about it other then paying "your local merc group", who could or couldn't give you the results. So if my ratting index falls or I'm not actually doing anything to combat the local NPC, now I have a bigger problem. We have NPC mining fleets that escalate, why not having NPC factions that go on the offensive. Its almost like the game cleaning its computer from useless unused memory by clearing out its cookies. Though to think I'm speaking from my ares tells me one thing. You really don't think to far into the future on things. I'm not lazy and my ares may be a little big, but my mind is thinking far better then yours. Thanks for your response and honestly of no help but a point to be heard.

So, important question, why and how do these unused citadels affect you exactly?

If they are unused they can't really impact your gameplay other than adding an overview entry if you're near them or by adding a small addition to the right click menu in space, also, high sec ones do have a use, people are using them to sell things with less tax on the market, they can also be used to avoid jump clone timers and for providing better refining services for miners, just because YOU don't have a use for them doesn't mean someone else doesn't have a use for them :P

Can you please define unused with regards to citadels?

Just remove them from the Overview unless in range like POSes and we can go back to not giving a rat's tail about them.

I mean, I refuse to believe there are more Citadels than there are POSes!

EvE has become that game that says it loves pvp and conflict, until you look at the mechanics and realize no they don't, they are more interested in asset security which is game breaking as its totally unbelievable mechanics and just spreading Hi sec to everywhere.

ic what the OP is meaning of this. Indeed i think let me say this if the citadels are more then 30 days inactive the need to self explode so this clean up the afk bases. Not a bad idea tbh. And or remove all citadels in high sec there is no need for that in high sec.

However like someones already mention the local merc can give it a check and clean it up for you for a price offcourse.

From common sense view, the strain on CCP's hardware and software would be greatly lessened if citadels that had run out of fuel say, somewhere between 45 and 60 days, were incinerated.

The answer is simple and I have suggested this with POSs as well. You should be able to hack any structure left un-fueled for 30 days or more. Hack it, make it yours, then refuel it or unanchor it and steal it. Folks would start paying attention if they new someone could walk off with it if it is ignored!

Can you please define unused with regards to citadels?

Run out of fuel for more than a month and no player of the owning corp has docked within the last 30 days.

So tell me how its player driven when one player has 30 citadels not being used in high sec and there are plenty of stations in those systems. NPC's would force a player to respond, there for it to be player driven content. Making you have to defend it. or fuel it and actually manage it. If you don't see a problem with the Citadels being deployed so random and so much and for no real purpose. Then technically its not something you look for in general and well progressing the game in that area might change things. Having actual artificial A.I. NPCS that go after SOV or structures. There's not enough players or time in life, in eve to take out every Citadel that sits in high sec or low sec or null sec. With no fuel and no one to managing it, their just trash sitting there. Not forcing those people to log back in daily to check their system and or surroundings and actually doing something in space. Think about it other then paying "your local merc group", who could or couldn't give you the results. So if my ratting index falls or I'm not actually doing anything to combat the local NPC, now I have a bigger problem. We have NPC mining fleets that escalate, why not having NPC factions that go on the offensive. Its almost like the game cleaning its computer from useless unused memory by clearing out its cookies. Though to think I'm speaking from my ares tells me one thing. You really don't think to far into the future on things. I'm not lazy and my ares may be a little big, but my mind is thinking far better then yours. Thanks for your response and honestly of no help but a point to be heard.

GIVE THEM FREAKING FUEL BURN. honest to god. I do wonder if the devs and half of CSM even play this game any more. Im pretty sure they just think they do. But they spend so much time in bureaucratic talking about this game they don't really.

GIVE THEM FREAKING FUEL BURN. honest to god. I do wonder if the devs and half of CSM even play this game any more. Im pretty sure they just think they do. But they spend so much time in bureaucratic talking about this game they don't really.

tbh, this is something I've suggested.

Please don't assume that we're not talking to CCP about things just because we're not yelling about something in public.

Though the fuel burn I'd prefer isn't a flat cost. it's a minimum. So if you're running services, it doesn't increase your costs. Just sets a minimum.

Please don't assume that we're not talking to CCP about things just because we're not yelling about something in public.