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Crove
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Posted - 2007.05.22 05:59:00 -
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Atm I am trying to run lvl 4's in Hyp, sometimes solo and sometimes with a buddy in a siege raven. Mostly T1 fit as we are still getting our skills up. I've been able to tank long enough to kill & warp through almost any mission, but I have lost 3 BS's this week to getting warp scrambled by intys. I am very frustrated because I can't hit them with my turrets at all, even when I web them, and my drones can kill them...but it takes about 10 minutes per inty, and after 2 or so I can't tank anymore damage and die.
My question is how can I kill them? Do I need to use double webs? With one web my drones are orbiting the frigate easily but it seems like they just can't hit it. I have drones 5, interfacing 5 and heavy drone ops 3, drone sharpshooting 3 and navigation 3 (I kinda trained myself into a gimp when I first started by focusing really hard on drones, I know). Would sentry drones be able to kill the frigs?
I can usually take out 2 BS or 3-4 cruisers in the time it takes to kill one inty and it is doing bad things to my blood pressure :P
Crove
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Alrich
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:19:00 -
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what kind of drones do you use?
trtain for light T2 drones. they kill my intys in no time. medium is useful against them only if you have a webb (but i still prefer my small ones)
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Alrich
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:21:00 -
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oh, and drones are useful for anyone so i wouldnt say any training on them is unneccecery. it is the only thing that makes turrets possible in lvl4's. without them everyone would fly ravens
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Zakalawe
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:05:00 -
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Light drones to the rescue.
I use 5 t1 hornets (light scout) to clear interceptors as soon as they aggro.
They zip around and take down interceptors in about 60 seconds.
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justcheckingthemarket
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:17:00 -
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forget heavy drones, especially forget sentry drones!!
stick to t2 light drones (rat specific damage will help a lot ;-))and get compbat drone operation up!
this toghether with the rest of your drone skills will do for shure!
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Resila
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:16:00 -
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 Originally by: justcheckingthemarket
stick to t2 light drones (rat specific damage will help a lot ;-)
No need to care about rat specific damage on drones, just stick with the thermal ones. They have a higher damage modifier, so it'll even itself out (or more usually, in favor of the hobgoblins/hammerheads).
But as the posters above said, use lights for inties.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Resila
Originally by: justcheckingthemarket
stick to t2 light drones (rat specific damage will help a lot ;-)
No need to care about rat specific damage on drones, just stick with the thermal ones. They have a higher damage modifier, so it'll even itself out (or more usually, in favor of the hobgoblins/hammerheads).
But as the posters above said, use lights for inties.
No, rat specifics are quite useful. Just pulling an NPC out of my hat, Gist Seraphim has 45% explosive, 65% thermal. Now, taking just from the base stats...
Hobgoblin I = 12 damage per shot x .35 = 4.2 per shot
Warrior I = 9.75 damage per shot x .55 = 5.36 per shot
Also, Warriors are significantly faster, which is extremely helpful when facing the fast-moving tackler frigs.
Fit rat-specific drones, unless you're fighting Bloods, Sanshas, or Drones. Because the disparity between EM and Thermal damage mod is so great, and the reistances on the NPCs much lower, THermals end up doing more damage.
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Sanzorz
Amarr
EVEfan.dk
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Posted - 2007.05.22 11:56:00 -
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Training up to t2 drones is a very good idea. They help alot. So far I haven't had trouble with interceptors when you're using light drones. If they still have issues hitting the ships, then web them or even try out the EM drones as they have a better tracking than most other drones.
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Loc Maythan
Gallente
Alfa00 Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Loc Maythan on 22/05/2007 12:10:48
As a Domi pilot, my main weapon is drones. I have 2 small guns fitted which are normally used just for getting aggro, but sometimes, while the drones are off elsewhere, I use the guns on any small, fast, close targets. Occasionally they struggle to deal with some ships, so I just set the heavies on them as well. Yes, the heavies struggle to keep up and hit, but combined with the guns it is almost always enough.
I generally try to avoid docking drones due to the few seconds of lag that occurs, and so I try to use the heavies for everything.
If the frigates/inties are far enough away to start with - say, further than 40km - I'll run out the Warden sentries first - much closer and sentries are useless against small ships. These can take down most such ships in 1 or 2 shots, reducing the number at actually reach you.
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Taguchi Hiroko
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:22:00 -
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web with t2 light drones dispatch those intys quick.
or if they orbit you within 5000m, smartbomb will do too.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Riggers Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:51:00 -
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Well, all above answers the question, but I like to see my own words 
I don't use any web on enemy inties and medium drones. Works very well after the inty turns off their MWD.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 22/05/2007 23:30:12
Cheap and quick... if your drone skills suck (it seems they do) drop a few guns and fit as many large smartbombs as you could. Warp in, agro the inties wait for them to orbit you and fire the smartbombs. All of them will die in a few seconds. Then you warp out and refit the guns.
PS, please don't pop your own drones or kill your mission buddies while doing this. |
Sc0rpion
Minmatar
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Sc0rpion on 23/05/2007 00:30:34
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Warp in, agro the inties wait for them to orbit you and fire the smartbombs. All of them will die in a few seconds.
Which will only work on the interceptors which orbit within 5km (6km for T2).
Unless of course you are shelling out serious cash for faction/officer SB's, but if that were the case, there are a lot better ways for him to spend a couple hundred million ISK.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 23/05/2007 04:07:38
And, at how many KMs orbit the other scrambling frigates? Because I used smartbombs many times and never had any trouble getting rid of them. T1 smartbombs BTW.
Anyways, you can also fit a full set of 150mm rails and a tracking comp if you have an available slot. Same strategy: get rid of the frigates, warp out, refit... |
Zo5o
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:38:00 -
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No, rat specifics are quite useful. Just pulling an NPC out of my hat, Gist Seraphim has 45% explosive, 65% thermal.
In my experience as a Domi pilot, one will do well using explosive drones against Angels, and Thermal drones against everything else.
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Ulii
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Posted - 2007.05.23 06:24:00 -
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what do you need the webber for when you got t2 light?
that is just overkill. better to use the webber for your target and let the lighties do what they are ment to do
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Ralara
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.23 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o
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No, rat specifics are quite useful. Just pulling an NPC out of my hat, Gist Seraphim has 45% explosive, 65% thermal.
In my experience as a Domi pilot, one will do well using explosive drones against Angels, and Thermal drones against everything else.
confirmed, as a raven with medium II drones in missions, thermal is best for guristas, sanshas, blood raiders and serpentis - they do ok on mercs, but explosive is best against angels.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:02:00 -
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Actually a webber hurts the performance of drones since their transversal is higher when they orbit a slow target than when they orbit-chase a fast one. So maybe try NOT to web your drones target. The proper medslot module to help both drones and guns is the much underrated target painter. Then again in a blaster hype, you NEED a web. If you have a rail hype though, just forget about the web, you wont hit anything small in web range anyway, web or no web.
Oh and do NOT go after inties with just heavies. T2 meds are the best, and even T2 lights perform better than heavies against 25m sig targets.
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