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DirtyHarry Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.05.23 18:18:00 - [31] Win threads? lolol Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.24 01:19:00 - [32] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Hypatia Iola Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Hypatia Iola Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 22/05/2007 20:15:15 it does seem that way graphically... maybe we'll get lucky tho and they'll see that cartoony graphics are FTL,/me hopes a lot I'm beginning to see why you failed your English course. My apologies, am I to be on guard at all times, careful not to mistype, l337sp34k, or otherwise do anything that offfends theeee? i was agreeing with you, if you want to flame me, have at kiddo. if i speak poorly on the forums it's because i'm lazy and sleep deprived. now go back under your bridge troll. Don't hate cause you failed, noob. Grow up. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.05.24 17:55:00 - [33] Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/05/2007 17:56:19 Originally by: Patch86 Starcraft and Warcraft II were both great games. Warcraft III was playable, but by no means a winner (WH40K: DoW is basically what it wet dreams about being), but at least it was in the same style as War craft II. Starcraft II is looking to be uncomfortably close to WCIII- that is, the same style of game play AND the same style. And while WCIII got away with that style by being fantasy, it really really REALLY won't suit Starcraft. I know its a new engine, but it just seems to be a new version of WCIII. Blizzard would have been well advised using this engine to make Warcraft IV, and trying to have Starcraft compete with the likes of C&C and SupCom. But it doesn't look to be that way.......... NO! BAD! are you that dense?????????? I shake my head at humanity. If I ever said something that lacking of any intelligence. But for a moment lets say it does look like Warcraft game play. are there lvl ups?items?grinding?heroes?a race to get a better hero? races that play the same? wait.. there isn't? ha interesting maybe if you watch it you can see it played like starcraft. because it is starcraft. I'm sorry but this just break all common sense I have ever had. and cartoony? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z9DTyGWAH http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/662/662514/starcraft-ghost-20051028031404113.jpg http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0313025/starcraft.jpg http://www.itnewsonline.com/images/news/Blizzard-StarCraft-II-5.jpg oh yeah it's NEVER been cartoony, nope, noe of those above are cartoony at all. or maybe it's that it's not cartoony. you decide but all of this warcraft and starcraft are the same is making me feel sick. good day
Ghazi	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Mike Atropos I've finished watching the gameplay video, and I've got mixed feelings about it. First, the animations and modeling are simply superb. The units move very fluidly and the new abilities to move across terrain look great. That said, the overall graphics look not-so-good. This doesn't come as a surprise to me though, as Blizzard seems to be getting fond of avoiding high-end graphics abilities so that every ****er with a 486 can play the game. Terrain textures (esp. the non-metallic ones) look blurry, weapons fire looks very basic, no or few particle effects, no shaders, etc. Death animations look hokey (a battlecruiser falls apart like legos) and the debris don't stay for more than a few seconds, which is a real oddity since the debris are physics enabled. If your going to go to the trouble of debris sliding down ramps, at least let them stay put 0.o Many of the new protoss units just don't look protosy (the colossus looks like something out of Rise of Legends, not starcraft), and I've already got balance concerns given their new abilities. I just love the website in this regard: they claim it will be a balanced game, when it took god knows how many patches AND BroodWar to get SC to a semblance of balance, and WoW drifts further and further into the realm of Roguecraft. Finally, and this is one of my largest complaints - unit scale is even worse than in Starcraft. Nuclear explosions are the size of air superiority fighters, as are battlecruisers, AND motherships 0.0. They're all the same friggen size. Also, the displayed "battle" in SCII shown off at the end was about the size of a small skirmish in SupCom. Overall, it looks like a fusion of SC and WCIII, and that makes me sad, although its exactly the direction I figured they'd take. I agree, I think that there is enough pressure on blizzard to perform above and beyond their previous WCIII mediocracy, and I have faith that the graphics (though cartoony) will be firmly more enthralling than that of the original Starcraft..Hell, its about time.
hattifnatt Gallente The Movement	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:14:00 - [35] Originally by: MotherMoon Stuff Yeah SC2 looks cartoony Originally by: Nicholas Barker i tackled somebody in the middle of nowhere, and told them i wouldn't leave untill they stripped on web cam. Who wants the video?
Ponticus Amarr White Castel Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:02:00 - [36] Hey cut them some slack they only announced the game like a week ago, sheesh, you act as if its gonna be released within a month. ----------- Serving the three basic food groups since 2007 Quote: I got the three basic food groups, BEANS BACON WHISKEY AND LARD!!!
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Ponticus Hey cut them some slack they only announced the game like a week ago, sheesh, you act as if its gonna be released within a month. Its been 10 years since SC, they've had enough slack.
Ponticus Amarr White Castel Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:37:00 - [38] may I quote the guy who did the narrarating in the gameplay demo vid, "I would like to remind you this is only a demo, nothing you see here is final", cut them some slack, they have been working on your precious little WC and WOW games.... ----------- Serving the three basic food groups since 2007 Quote: I got the three basic food groups, BEANS BACON WHISKEY AND LARD!!!
Fayn Trak Gallente Myridian Trading Systems	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:20:00 - [39] For the most part though what's left is balancing it's not like they're going to whip out a new graphical engine in the final stages of development. A herd of cattle A flock of geese A lot of isk remember when sigs were text?
FIXALT tryandkillmeFA	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:12:00 - [40] Edited by: FIXALT tryandkillmeFA on 24/05/2007 22:11:15 Originally by: Fayn Trak For the most part though what's left is balancing it's not like they're going to whip out a new graphical engine in the final stages of development. True... However that doesn't mean the engine can't handle a bit of tuning... Apart from WCIII there hasn't been a single RTS released from Blizzard that hasn't rocked! God damn it forgot I deleted my cookies yesterday...
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:44:00 - [41] Edited by: Patch86 on 24/05/2007 23:49:03 Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/05/2007 17:56:19 Originally by: Patch86 Starcraft and Warcraft II were both great games. Warcraft III was playable, but by no means a winner (WH40K: DoW is basically what it wet dreams about being), but at least it was in the same style as War craft II. Starcraft II is looking to be uncomfortably close to WCIII- that is, the same style of game play AND the same style. And while WCIII got away with that style by being fantasy, it really really REALLY won't suit Starcraft. I know its a new engine, but it just seems to be a new version of WCIII. Blizzard would have been well advised using this engine to make Warcraft IV, and trying to have Starcraft compete with the likes of C&C and SupCom. But it doesn't look to be that way.......... NO! BAD! are you that dense?????????? I shake my head at humanity. If I ever said something that lacking of any intelligence. But for a moment lets say it does look like Warcraft game play. are there lvl ups?items?grinding?heroes?a race to get a better hero? races that play the same? wait.. there isn't? ha interesting maybe if you watch it you can see it played like starcraft. because it is starcraft. I'm sorry but this just break all common sense I have ever had. and cartoony? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z9DTyGWAH http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/662/662514/starcraft-ghost-20051028031404113.jpg http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0313025/starcraft.jpg http://www.itnewsonline.com/images/news/Blizzard-StarCraft-II-5.jpg oh yeah it's NEVER been cartoony, nope, noe of those above are cartoony at all. or maybe it's that it's not cartoony. you decide but all of this warcraft and starcraft are the same is making me feel sick. good day A) It DOES look cartoony, you'll never persuade me of otherwise on that point. Because I have eyes, and I've watched the trailer and all the demo games and the screenshots, and it looks like a saturday morning kids show, with extra blood splatters. B) Unless I'm much mistaken, I've read that there will indeed be hero units, that level up, and that there will be capturable items. I hear rumours (although not on the official page, as the rest) that there will be "creeps" (NPCs) on the map too. So yeah, that does sound like Warcraft III to me. C) Starcraft and Warcraft II were produced at pretty much the same time or close too, and were very similar games, albeit with their differences (they were different games afterall). Most of the Blizzard staff that worked on those games have since moved on. The sequel to Warcraft II (a very similar game, at the core, to Starcraft) was Warcraft III. Why is it unreasonable to expect the team who created Warcraft III to create a similar style of game for Starcraft II? and D) I was totally wasted when I typed that last post, and you can barely tell now, reading it back. I'm so proud EDIT: Doing a bit more searching, I might (THANKFULLY) be wrong about point B. There are sites that claim both ways, but the majority, and more reputable websites claim that there WONT be heroes or creeps and such. Which is puts SCII up several serious notches in my excited column again. Heres hoping............. --------
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:47:00 - [42] Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/05/2007 04:47:28 Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/05/2007 04:47:01 Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/05/2007 04:46:00 "B) Unless I'm much mistaken, I've read that there will indeed be hero units, that level up, and that there will be capturable items. I hear rumours (although not on the official page, as the rest) that there will be "creeps" (NPCs) on the map too. So yeah, that does sound like Warcraft III to me." NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN and did you miss my point? my point was all of the starcraft games have the same art style. SC2 is cartoony you cry! but so are the rest. .... oooo when I said "oh yeah it's NEVER been cartoony, nope, none of those above are cartoony at all." I was being sarcastic
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:27:00 - [43] - 'nuff ~~said~~ screenshotted - "Ready for your... sponge bath?"
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:49:00 - [44] Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/05/2007 05:50:38 wait... what? I see something that is an example of it not being cartoony I think? either way look simalar to me
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.05.25 06:03:00 - [45] ... where'S the similarity? the sharp edges of sc1 and the wobbly, cuddly rubber tank of sc2? - "Ready for your... sponge bath?"
Vari Carbide Industries	Posted - 2007.05.25 07:52:00 - [46] Originally by: Roemy Schneider ... where'S the similarity? the sharp edges of sc1 and the wobbly, cuddly rubber tank of sc2? QFT It really reminds me of the Raon Launcher from Gunbound. GB's a nice little distraction a far cry from other korean MMOs(grindfests). Try if out if you're bored.
Radgun Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:19:00 - [47] yeah but the cinematics will be awesome I fully expect them to drop one or two expansions then come up with World of Starcraft... which will be a huge success, naturally
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.05.25 12:05:00 - [48] Edited by: ry ry on 25/05/2007 12:04:54 Originally by: Radgun I fully expect them to drop one or two expansions then come up with World of Starcraft... which will be a huge success, naturally could it be?!* *no, it isn't.
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.05.25 14:16:00 - [49] The gameplay trailer shows that the units are much more detailed than those from warcraft3. It looks abit like supreme commander ifyou look at these walkers but hey, starcraft1 was a great game and this one looks very nice to me. If you dont like it, dont play it. Ship lovers click here
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 16:11:00 - [50] Originally by: Hellspawn01 The gameplay trailer shows that the units are much more detailed than those from warcraft3. It looks abit like supreme commander ifyou look at these walkers but hey, starcraft1 was a great game and this one looks very nice to me. Well I should ruddy hope so, tbh. Warcraft III was released 5 years ago, if they couldn't top that engine now I'd be dead disappointed. --------
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.05.25 16:36:00 - [51] looks more like a sequel to this game - "Ready for your... sponge bath?"
Radgun Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.25 17:20:00 - [52] the tank is too colourful, man, they should make it uglier and darker, more like Warhammer 40k, that one had the proper aspect of units except the eldar, that is...
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Roemy Schneider looks more like a sequel to this game Best. game. ever.
flaming phantom Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.26 05:40:00 - [54] Whatever happened to starcraft ghost? that lokked so intense...i was really ticked when i found out they dropped that project and heres the URL for those who never heard about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Ghost
Nicole KholdStare Gallente kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.26 10:12:00 - [55] Edited by: Nicole KholdStare on 26/05/2007 10:11:07 pft all this speculating is moot, since the game won't be out for another 6 years anyway :D
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.26 10:41:00 - [56] Originally by: flaming phantom Whatever happened to starcraft ghost? that lokked so intense...i was really ticked when i found out they dropped that project and heres the URL for those who never heard about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Ghost Ghost I was waaay looking forward too. and people don't forget that this is Alpha screenshots from what ive heard. So they should change alot. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.26 10:49:00 - [57] Edited by: NightmareX on 26/05/2007 10:51:56 I'm soooo looking forward to this game, it looks totally awesome And about the graphic. It looks nice to me even when it have a little cartoonish looks. And to those who whine about the StarCraft 2 graphic, just be happy that you can run SC2 in bigger resolution than 640x480, and that you have better graphic than the first SC game. StarCraft is not about the graphic, it's about the gameplay. When StarCraft 2 is here, then both C&C3 and Supreme Commander will be deleted from my computer. Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Tearusic Gallente White Castel Corp	Posted - 2007.05.26 14:57:00 - [58] Edited by: Tearusic on 26/05/2007 14:56:33 ----------- Serving the three basic food groups since 2007 Quote: I got the three basic food groups, BEANS BACON WHISKEY AND LARD!!!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.26 15:17:00 - [59] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/05/2007 15:16:04 Originally by: NightmareX When StarCraft 2 is here, then both C&C3 and Supreme Commander will be deleted from my computer. I don't see how this will happen: Starcraft's gameplay is quite outdated and Starcraft 2 doesn't seem to have any obvious improvements: I mean I haven't even heard that it will have queueable orders! Odds are: a) It'll be very similar to Starcraft 1, but as a result be easily outclassed by Supreme Commander. or b) The gameplay will be revamped, and Blizzard will ruin it. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!

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