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Zurvan Gavur
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:44:00 -
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I have come to ask whether any capsuleer organisation still holds true to the leadership of Omir Sarikusa and to the Covenant of Blood.
Freedom at last, after years of feigned adherance to the moribund Amarrian church, to roam the stars and give myself to the true faith, the way of Sarikusa. Are there no brethren to be found among the capsuleers? |

Amira Silvermist
The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:49:00 -
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Oh great, another cultist...
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 22/05/2007 22:47:58
Originally by: Zurvan Gavur I have come to ask whether any capsuleer organisation still holds true to the leadership of Omir Sarikusa and to the Covenant of Blood.
Freedom at last, after years of feigned adherance to the moribund Amarrian church, to roam the stars and give myself to the true faith, the way of Sarikusa. Are there no brethren to be found among the capsuleers?
I would suggest you try looking at Bloodveil, the executor corp of the The Sani Sabik Alliance.
You can go here for more information.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Amira Silvermist Oh great, another cultist...
Again we grow with thanks to you and your ilk.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Redpants
Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Redpants on 22/05/2007 22:58:34 I wonder what the galaxy would be like if the Amarrians ever left the house and got lives. Every time one of you opens thier mouths it's the same old dullish monologue. I wonder how it is you even date.
In church: Amarrian Male: Hello, you are looking fine this evening. I can tell by the way you wear that dress that you have found the light of the Lord.
Amarrian Female: Yes, I'm glad you noticed. My hips are filled with the cleansing light and my lips speak the truth.
Amarrian Male: I am pleased. Would you like to accompany me this Sunday to consume the food of the Lord in private? We will discuss God, Minmatar terrorism, and marriage.
Amarrian Female: I love you.
"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |

Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
I would suggest you try looking at Bloodveil, the executor corp of the The Sani Sabik Alliance.
didnt you guy just recently proclaim to have nothing at all to do with omirs little cult? or was that another the sani sabik alliance?
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Torak Dakos
Amarr Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2007.05.23 06:14:00 -
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Edited by: Torak Dakos on 23/05/2007 06:13:03 Bloodveil have no loyalty to the Covenant and Omir, do not let them fool you.
Cruoris Seraphim are the ones you seek. Our CEO was the CEO of Blood Inquisition who fought for Omir during the Blood Wars. Her loyalty has never ceased.
Cruoris Seraphim forums
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Altarion Ayanami
Gallente Astral Eagles
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Posted - 2007.05.23 14:56:00 -
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How nice...
Not only do these blood raider cultists pop up like weed to harm the Empire, but now they are all bickering among themselves for who is the 'true' ones among this sorry band of fools.
Religion truly makes one blind. I wonder how long the Blood cultists and the Empire loyalits will go on killing each other over a lie that has clouded their culture for millenia.
Not really my problem, so I really should not bother to much with this, but it's just so depressing to see these ignorant fools waste each others lives like this every chance they get. And in between all this, they still treat everyone else as dirt, so low as not even being worthy to be considered human.
I can only hope that you learn one day, that is, if not the matari end your society first. For the sake of your people, I hope we see the first alternative happend over the other, however it seems, to me, unlikely. --------- Federation Loyalist - A man of the Federation, defending home and kin. |

Leon 026
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.23 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 22/05/2007 22:47:58
Originally by: Zurvan Gavur I have come to ask whether any capsuleer organisation still holds true to the leadership of Omir Sarikusa and to the Covenant of Blood.
Freedom at last, after years of feigned adherance to the moribund Amarrian church, to roam the stars and give myself to the true faith, the way of Sarikusa. Are there no brethren to be found among the capsuleers?
I would suggest you try looking at Bloodveil, the executor corp of the The Sani Sabik Alliance.
The splinter-cult of Bloodveil does not follow the teacher Omir Sarikusa nor the Blood Raider Covenant; they believe in their own (mis)interpretations. It seems that Casserina Leshrac once again fails at understanding the faith, especially her own that she claims to follow.
You seek Cruoris Sepharim if you want to be guided. -------
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 22/05/2007 22:47:58
Originally by: Zurvan Gavur I have come to ask whether any capsuleer organisation still holds true to the leadership of Omir Sarikusa and to the Covenant of Blood.
Freedom at last, after years of feigned adherance to the moribund Amarrian church, to roam the stars and give myself to the true faith, the way of Sarikusa. Are there no brethren to be found among the capsuleers?
I would suggest you try looking at Bloodveil, the executor corp of the The Sani Sabik Alliance.
The splinter-cult of Bloodveil does not follow the teacher Omir Sarikusa nor the Blood Raider Covenant; they believe in their own (mis)interpretations. It seems that Casserina Leshrac once again fails at understanding the faith, especially her own that she claims to follow.
You seek Cruoris Sepharim if you want to be guided.
oh man it just keep getting better for Revan's ****** brigade.
But to answer, no Bloodveil (by their own statements) does not support Omir. Ignore Casserina Leshrac, she is an idiot.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |
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Zurvan Gavur
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Posted - 2007.05.23 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zurvan Gavur on 23/05/2007 18:59:43
Originally by: Amira Silvermist Oh great, another cultist...
Cult ûnoun 1.a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
My apologies, Lady Amarrian. At first I assumed your words to be sarcasm. But as you are loyal to Amarr and its "particular system of religious worship", it seems you must indeed be welcoming me - for we are cultists both.
But, having tried both, I prefer my cult to yours. Why not repeat my experiment?
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iNsAn3
Pringles Inc. YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.23 19:02:00 -
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another cult?
as far as i can tell, cults use religious beliefs to shroud their criminal ways. Most "faith believers" end up doing something to upset the state and end up claiming "it was for our god"....
Or something to that extent
Its Great Bieng iNsAn3, Isnt it?Ö |

Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.23 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Altarion Ayanami How nice...
Not only do these blood raider cultists pop up like weed to harm the Empire, but now they are all bickering among themselves for who is the 'true' ones among this sorry band of fools.
Religion truly makes one blind. I wonder how long the Blood cultists and the Empire loyalits will go on killing each other over a lie that has clouded their culture for millenia.
Not really my problem, so I really should not bother to much with this, but it's just so depressing to see these ignorant fools waste each others lives like this every chance they get. And in between all this, they still treat everyone else as dirt, so low as not even being worthy to be considered human.
I can only hope that you learn one day, that is, if not the matari end your society first. For the sake of your people, I hope we see the first alternative happend over the other, however it seems, to me, unlikely.
You fail to understand anything, worm. Go back to your dirt.
Originally by: Leon 026 You seek Cruoris Sepharim if you want to be guided.
Leon speaks the truth. Cyshade's Cruoris Sepharim are the most pure of loyalists. Cyshade is considered the most influential and powerful of Omir's loyalists
While Bloodveil are a Sani Sabik cult, they have turned their back from Omir. This does not diminish their faith, just their choice of path. Seek them out should you wish reformation and not destruction of the corrupt Empire and its loyalists.
I've also know something to rile even Tomohawk's snaking tongue; Seek out The Cartel and Maximada should you look for the most chaotic of Omir's loyalists. While not as politically active as other Sani Sabik followers, Blood Inquisition is very much still alive... 
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |

Altarion Ayanami
Gallente Astral Eagles
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Posted - 2007.05.24 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Originally by: Altarion Ayanami
You fail to understand anything, worm. Go back to your dirt.
And the most constructive reply you could muster in return was an attempt at personal offence? My skin is thicker than that.
Try harder next time, and if you can't find something better to say than spouting offences, please stay quiet. --------- Federation Loyalist - A man of the Federation, defending home and kin.
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Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:16:00 -
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There are currently no corporations loyal to the blood raiders, only individuals such as myself. The Sani Sabik etc. are all a joke, a mockery of raider ideals
The Movement is recruiting! |

Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:21:00 -
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The problem with cults of personality is the average quality of the followers they tend to attract. They always end with one dynamic leader and a mob of weak-willed followers. _
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mebrithiel Ju''wien on 24/05/2007 15:01:39
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The problem with cults of personality is the average quality of the followers they tend to attract. They always end with one dynamic leader and a mob of weak-willed followers.
You appear to profess much knowledge regarding Sani Sabik. You'd be better teaching that knowledge to the pupils in Eve University. It's good to have someone as well-versed in our faith in a position of trust with the students.
The only issue with your statement I have, however, is that pod-pilots are in a unique position in not having to follow one dynamic leader, but find their place in the grand plan in which everyone benefits. Leadership is something only the strong have the power and right to take, but Sani Sabik teaches us that even their supporters are important - The pyramid of power is held up by them. Pod-pilots have the power to chose their own position in this pyramid.
I expect the students at Eve Uni look up to you in your own 'pyramid'... Sani Sabik is everywhere these days.
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |

Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien You appear to profess much knowledge regarding Sani Sabik. You'd be better teaching that knowledge to the pupils in Eve University. It's good to have someone as well-versed in our faith in a position of trust with the students.
I hope, for your sake, that I'm detecting sarcasm in your transmission. If you're being sincere, there's just no hope for you. And the less I know about the Sani Sabik "faith," the better. At best, you're well-meaning crazy people. At worst, you're murdering psychotics with delusions of grandeur. In my experience, Sabikers seem to bounce between the two.
Quote: The only issue with your statement I have, however, is that pod-pilots are in a unique position in not having to follow one dynamic leader, but find their place in the grand plan in which everyone benefits.
I agree ... but while it's true that capsuleers can shape their own destiny, many of them prefer to subordinate themselves to the will of others. Hence my original assessment. _
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.24 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I hope, for your sake, that I'm detecting sarcasm in your transmission. If you're being sincere, there's just no hope for you.
You detected both and neither. I was just expecting you to admit your lack of knowledge:
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux And the less I know about the Sani Sabik "faith," the better.
Indeed. The less you know, the better. Perhaps it would be better for you to refrain from commenting on things you don't know. Looking ignorant after the fact doesn't become you.
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I agree ... but while it's true that capsuleers can shape their own destiny, many of them prefer to subordinate themselves to the will of others. Hence my original assessment.
How you manage to contradict yourself completely in one reply, shows inconsistency in your presumptions. Let me enlighten you, Devilish, as it's now obviously clear to everyone here that you know knothing of Sani Sabik:
Those who are meant to lead, do so: Those below, serve. This is Sani Sabik.
Take that to heart and you may have come away from this enlightened.
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |

Zurvan Gavur
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Zurvan Gavur on 24/05/2007 23:13:14
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The problem with cults of personality is the average quality of the followers they tend to attract. They always end with one dynamic leader and a mob of weak-willed followers.
That may or may not be true - on balance, I believe it to be true.
But I fail to see the relevance to this discussion.
If you believe the Covenant of Blood is about the leadership of one individual, then you have understood nothing. The Covenant is about the fulfilment of the self. The strongest survive, and prosper. The weaker must be cast down. If they be cast down from a high place in the Covenant - then so much the better. For the Covenant's goals are not to be achieved by the feeble.
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.25 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zurvan Gavur Edited by: Zurvan Gavur on 24/05/2007 23:13:14
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The problem with cults of personality is the average quality of the followers they tend to attract. They always end with one dynamic leader and a mob of weak-willed followers.
That may or may not be true - on balance, I believe it to be true.
But I fail to see the relevance to this discussion.
If you believe the Covenant of Blood is about the leadership of one individual, then you have understood nothing. The Covenant is about the fulfilment of the self. The strongest survive, and prosper. The weaker must be cast down. If they be cast down from a high place in the Covenant - then so much the better. For the Covenant's goals are not to be achieved by the feeble.
This is indeed the beliefs of the Sani Sabik, Bloodveil in particular. We also look to personal wealth as a symbol of power and status.
You are welcome to query me further privately where I can answer your questions in detail.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Tenebrion Darkness
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Posted - 2007.05.25 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 25/05/2007 04:59:04 Zurvan, first ask yourself what you percieve as strength and weakness. Second, who gets the right to dictate if people are strong or weak? Than, to what extent do you cast down those who are "weak"?
From a pod pilot perspective, we are "stronger" than those still planet bound(including stations), so should those of our community cast them down as beneath us? Pertaining to the capsuleer community alone, does a single corp. or alliance have the right to dictate over everyone else who they believe the strong and weak are?
I see the Sani Sabik, not as a religious/militant/piratical organization, but as a philosophy one lives by. There are many different interpretations of that philosophy practiced by many different organizations throughout the cluster. However, you do not have to tie yourself to one of these organizations to follow the path.
One cannot be shown the way, they must walk the path alone, facing their tribulations. Only than will you understand the philosophy of the Sani Sabik.
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.25 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 25/05/2007 04:59:04 Zurvan, first ask yourself what you percieve as strength and weakness. Second, who gets the right to dictate if people are strong or weak? Than, to what extent do you cast down those who are "weak"?
From a pod pilot perspective, we are "stronger" than those still planet bound(including stations), so should those of our community cast them down as beneath us? Pertaining to the capsuleer community alone, does a single corp. or alliance have the right to dictate over everyone else who they believe the strong and weak are?
I see the Sani Sabik, not as a religious/militant/piratical organization, but as a philosophy one lives by. There are many different interpretations of that philosophy practiced by many different organizations throughout the cluster. However, you do not have to tie yourself to one of these organizations to follow the path.
One cannot be shown the way, they must walk the path alone, facing their tribulations. Only than will you understand the philosophy of the Sani Sabik.
All philosophy that all should live by as I do.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Zurvan Gavur
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Posted - 2007.05.25 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 25/05/2007 04:59:04 Zurvan, first ask yourself what you percieve as strength and weakness. Second, who gets the right to dictate if people are strong or weak? Than, to what extent do you cast down those who are "weak"?
From a pod pilot perspective, we are "stronger" than those still planet bound(including stations), so should those of our community cast them down as beneath us? Pertaining to the capsuleer community alone, does a single corp. or alliance have the right to dictate over everyone else who they believe the strong and weak are?
I see the Sani Sabik, not as a religious/militant/piratical organization, but as a philosophy one lives by. There are many different interpretations of that philosophy practiced by many different organizations throughout the cluster. However, you do not have to tie yourself to one of these organizations to follow the path.
One cannot be shown the way, they must walk the path alone, facing their tribulations. Only than will you understand the philosophy of the Sani Sabik.
While I think we have much in common sir, permit me to disagree.
I do not see strength as a status to be handed out by a committee. I know strength when I see it proven in conflict. The strong, the victors, should then do as they please with the weak - the true significance of the symbol of the blooding of the victim.
Some of the weak may, in turn, become the strong under the spur of adversity. This is the path that will lead our people to ever greater heights.
I agree that the way of the Covenant is the way of the self and individual fulfilment. But others follow my path, and still others have followed it before me. Why should I not learn from their mistakes, so that when we meet I might overcome them? So, here I seek them out - and expect to be sought out by them.
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Tenebrion Darkness
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:01:00 -
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Disagree?
The questions I posed, when answered by you, would give you a better understanding of your interpretation of the philosophy. Through this, and knowledge of the different sects, you will find direction (whether joining one or starting your own).
If it was pertaining to walking the path alone, than I should clarify my statement and than see. To walk alone is the first step in understanding the philosophy. You must realize your own strength as an individual. This is not to say you have to be blind to that which goes on around you. While building your own strength, watch the ebbs and flows of the "galactic powers", and when you can stand on your own, join them.
I say this because all to often those young to the stars become reliant (if not dependant) upon an organization for survival. This reliance only serves to weaken you and the organization.
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IzzyChan
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:24:00 -
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Meb and Leon are right. Cyshade's corp is the corp to be in if you want to work for Ormir. --------------------
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Leon 026
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:59:00 -
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And here you have the perfect example of weekend cultists trying to sway new members into their cult.
The teachings of the Sani Sabikist faith requires one to prove himself while walking it, not by becoming subservient to those that claim to understand it, yet clearly dont. -------
Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings |

cheesyhead
Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:00:00 -
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So called Blood-Raider followers speak that they are loyal to The convenant, Yet where are they? Are they in delve? Are they protecting the rights of the Covenant? I think not, they are no one to be seen. They just use The covenants great name to higher their standard, but they are not true, they are not dedicated! Follow us to the path of enlightentment, follow us for real glory against the treacherous amarr. We are true to protect the Covenant from outside poison such as these scandals. follow us to follow Omir Sarikusa.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:12:00 -
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Blood...why the hell is it always blood? Can't they come up with an original body fluid once in a while? Why not urine, or cerebrospinal fluid, or bile...
All this obsession with blood makes them sound like the only fluid of consequence in their bodies is the water in their head putting pressure on their brain. 
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Hooch Flux
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:51:00 -
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Wow, it's like the short bus just exploded!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
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Kaleigh Doyle
Renua Foundation
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull Blood...why the hell is it always blood? Can't they come up with an original body fluid once in a while? Why not urine, or cerebrospinal fluid, or bile...
All this obsession with blood makes them sound like the only fluid of consequence in their bodies is the water in their head putting pressure on their brain. 
Bile Raiders doesn't quite have the impact, does it? 
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:50:00 -
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Cerebrospinal Raiders sounds like a low budget holo-horror.
Here's a hint Janu; nothing provokes more fear in more people than the sight of human blood, in all its forms.
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |

Rudy Metallo
Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Redpants Edited by: Redpants on 22/05/2007 22:58:34 I wonder what the galaxy would be like if the Amarrians ever left the house and got lives. Every time one of you opens thier mouths it's the same old dullish monologue. I wonder how it is you even date.
In church: Amarrian Male: Hello, you are looking fine this evening. I can tell by the way you wear that dress that you have found the light of the Lord.
Amarrian Female: Yes, I'm glad you noticed. My hips are filled with the cleansing light and my lips speak the truth.
Amarrian Male: I am pleased. Would you like to accompany me this Sunday to consume the food of the Lord in private? We will discuss God, Minmatar terrorism, and marriage.
Amarrian Female: I love you.
At least they have some sort of edicate, as opposed to simply walking into the nearest brothel. Say what? |

MirrorGod
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Redpants Edited by: Redpants on 22/05/2007 22:58:34 I wonder what the galaxy would be like if the Amarrians ever left the house and got lives. Every time one of you opens thier mouths it's the same old dullish monologue. I wonder how it is you even date.
In church: Amarrian Male: Hello, you are looking fine this evening. I can tell by the way you wear that dress that you have found the light of the Lord.
Amarrian Female: Yes, I'm glad you noticed. My hips are filled with the cleansing light and my lips speak the truth.
Amarrian Male: I am pleased. Would you like to accompany me this Sunday to consume the food of the Lord in private? We will discuss God, Minmatar terrorism, and marriage.
Amarrian Female: I love you.
I lived on Amarr Prime for 16 long miserable years, and I assure you, it's much more pathetic.
*snip* your sig is too large. Maximum sig size is 24,000 bytes, your current sig is 40,174 bytes - Karass Sayfo |

Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Cerebrospinal Raiders sounds like a low budget holo-horror.
Here's a hint Janu; nothing provokes more fear in more people than the sight of human blood, in all its forms.
Scare someone enough that they take a dump down the leg of their flight suit and check back with me...
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.19 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Bile Raiders doesn't quite have the impact, does it? 
Oh, but Kayleigh, I do so enjoy the thought of, ahem, "Boy Juice Raiders". I think I'm one of those myself 
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Cerebrospinal Raiders sounds like a low budget holo-horror.
I really, really want to see that film now.
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |

Hooch Flux
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:58:00 -
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I think Vomit Raiders sounds much better, and more disgusting.
I believe the correct etiquette in Amarr society is to have an official Wife and a Consort who nobody knows about. That way you don't appear two faced.
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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