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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:43:00 -
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Yes this an alt. No I am not going to post on my main for fear of being harrased.
I started my account 3 months ago...but I have been reading these forums for a VERY long time.
To all that are in "Alliances" you all claim that your not pirates, that you are legitament Corporations that have claimed areas of space is false.
All Alliances are pirates....but the worst kind!...at least with moo and space invaders and bio mass you know what to expect.
BUT you who claim to be legit pod noobs like me and take our cargo. you have "closed" the space that you claim to be yours and yet you can't keep each other out.
And you know what? the rest of the eve community doesn't care who out numbered who in what fight or care about who has the most battleship kills....so DO US ALL A FAVOR AND STFU!!!
MY GOD your worse then 6 year olds fighting over the rules of a game!
You all have big mouths and can't back anything that you claim...to the rest of us your nothing but griefers and bullies.
There is no way for any of you to "win" NVA will still be in that region of space. SA will still be in Stain. CFS will still be where they are and FA will be as well.
And those of you in Curse....how you have mananged to stay together fighting everyone else in Eve is amazing to me and everyone else that I talke to.
Those of you who are fighting these "Alliance" wars must know that none of you will win. And that None of EVE care how many battleships where lost today or who got podded....all we want if for you all to stop killing people who go to 0.0
But I will say this after all the "trolling" and reading I have to say that of all the people who annoy the most(not just me)
SUTTY AND HOMO WIN THE PRIZE......YOU TWO SHOULD DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND STFU....YOU CAN'T BACK ANY THING YOU CLAIM just as no one can. There is no kill counter and your not getting any kind of points.
I urge CCP to do something about these "alliances" they are nothing but griefers in this game. Put battle ship pirates in open 0.0 space....make NPC Battleship pirates camp gates. So we don't have to listen to these lies anymore.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:48:00 -
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Sorry if I seem stupid, but .... if you don't want to read about who killed who in Curse last week... how about you don't read about it?
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:57:00 -
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Sorry if I seem stupid, but .... if you don't want to read about who killed who in Curse last week... how about you don't read about it?
Well I can assure you your not stupid...and your question is valid.
To tell you the truth I have stopped reading all alliance threads. my whole point is that they all lie. and non of them can confirm anything that they say so why bother putting up on the forums? why not just keep it in game!
Currently there is no way to keep track of kills or victorys. they all think that they are winning and in reality they can't! no matter what
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:59:00 -
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0.0 space is lawless, so every alliance make their own laws. So live with it or get an army and boot them out. But aware resistance... some alliance have battleships and beer(CA has) and other have Kestrels and no beer... but they are dangerous too (they are trolling MASSivly on board).
ok, without joking:
like 20%-25% of all Eve players are in this alliances. so i think we have the right to post our kills.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:04:00 -
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0.0 space is lawless, so every alliance make their own laws. So live with it or get an army and boot them out. But aware resistance... some alliance have battleships and beer(CA has) and other have Kestrels and no beer... but they are dangerous too (they are trolling MASSivly on board).
ok, without joking:
like 20%-25% of all Eve players are in this alliances. so i think we have the right to post our kills.
That was funny.
And your right you do have the right....thats not what I am saying.....you can't confirm nor can the people who your fighting.
example......
Sutty claims to personally own all of Curse Alliance and its pilots and NEVER lost a ship in any fight....and that he has "Massive" victorys.
He can't back any of it. the only people to show any proof of what they have done is the Forsaken Alliance with their movies....but then those are biased as well....they don't show when they lose.
Everyone does. no one wins. So why bother posting when you can't back what you say.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:07:00 -
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And again 0.0 space is lawless wich makes all Alliances Pirates of the worst kind.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:16:00 -
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I dont agree with the alliances being greifers to such an extent. In many cases they have to pod on alliance pilots that drift into their space when they are at war to prevent spying and other similar acts, and many of them do publicly post that all on alliance members should stay out of the region.
If they choose to do this in peace time they can do if they want (they claimed the territory for themselves - although I agree with you that this is still an act of piracy regardless of who owns the region).
Like you I have pretty much given up on reading any alliance threads becuase they ALWAYS degenerate into stupid arguments over somthing completely different to the original topic, with people crying about who owned who with endless quotes and requotes of pointless and unfounded gossip etc. At the start it was fun but now its so predictable its become plain dull.
The old days of political debates (yes like when Jade was debating with pretty much anyone who said a word about the NVA) things were pretty amusing and interesting.
Anyone want to place bets on how long until this thread is hijacked for another round of who owned who?
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Xanz
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:17:00 -
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Welcome to an online game with PVP. Thus CCP has allowed players to create their own laws in certain parts of space. This is good and healthy for the game. You don't like it. Go do your biz in empire space.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:27:00 -
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I do stick to empire space. because I have no need to get killed by "Alliance" pirates as well as have to contend with NPC pirates as well. I understand that we as players have been given the "tools" to make this game what we want. my point is....for example that...
Curse Alliance are pirates....So Stain and Fountian and CC CoC attack them all the time yet all those same Alliances would attack me or any one else that came to 0.0 space that was not part of their allaince....hence there for they are pirates them selfs. SA doesn't own Stain Region......Sanshas Nation does.
Curse Alliance doesn't own Curse the Angels Cartel does.
Which makes these Alliances Pirates.
And why post about "Victory's" when you can win one day and get totally slaughterd the next and no one really wins. because I as out sider believe nothing that any of you say any way because your all pirates and griefers of the worst kind.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:41:00 -
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Welcome to an online game with PVP. Thus CCP has allowed players to create their own laws in certain parts of space. This is good and healthy for the game. You don't like it. Go do your biz in empire space.
The PvP bit doesnt bother me at all. I've already been shot down several times. The only thing that bugs me is the way people spend their time screaming pirate at people who do exactly the same things they do.
Apart from that I couldn't give a toss about the alliances and what they want.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 05:59:00 -
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I don't have a problem with PvP either. I have never done PvP either...I have not lost a ship to PC pirates or NPC pirates...but I would not flame or scream at them because thats who they are and that is what they do. but at least I can respect Pirates for who and what they are. They Say what they are and don't hide behind false claims. I have more respect for Moo and Biomass and Space Invaders and non for the Alliances that claim to be anti pirate and that is what just what they are....pirates!
And then to come on to the Forums as if any one believes what they say? give me a break.
At least Curse admits they kill cause they like the PvP...they should have invited every Pirate Corp out there into Curse and just been what they pretended not to be.
And before ANY of CAs enemys think they can pipe up and say anything...you all are just as guilty as they are of being pirates so STFU.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.08 06:01:00 -
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This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've read all year. Just to clarify:
You wish to make a complaint about all the players who you never see, who live & play in the areas that you never go to, and who post in the threads that you don't read.
Using your alt, you also wish to make a complaint about them "trolling". Just when I thought the whiners in Eve couldn't possibly out-do their previous efforts, theres always one to surprise you...
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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2004.01.08 06:08:00 -
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*****ing about alliances on the forums will get you nowhere. Eve's game mechanics equal the "might makes right" thing, so any group of players getting together as an alliance will create their own laws in the region of space they pick, if you like it or not. I agree that alliance wars, if both parties do at least have a bit of common sense, cannot really be won. But still, they try and have fun doing it, hence, I did it myself for half of my Eve time in two alliances following the respective rules of the council/senate.
If you don't like it, as I said, flames will lead you nowhere. Try to find like minded people in the game, band together and start raids into the territory of the alliance that so annoys you.
On a sidenote, the SA/CA/whatever posts about battles, even when they end up in flamefests, are always a good read imo, exeggerated or not, cause they add goddamn SPICE to the game.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sorsha Lightbringer on 08/01/2004 06:15:39
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This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've read all year. Just to clarify:
You wish to make a complaint about all the players who you never see, who live & play in the areas that you never go to, and who post in the threads that you don't read.
Using your alt, you also wish to make a complaint about them "trolling". Just when I thought the whiners in Eve couldn't possibly out-do their previous efforts, theres always one to surprise you...
And this comming from a pirate/Griefer.
And for what Bas said. I hope to be apart of a Mega Corp that some day would ride Eve of all Pirate Alliances. so for now I will continue to follow the suit of all Pirate Alliances and POST AS AN ALT and stay in Empire Space...and there is nothing any of you can do about it....
just like you can't do anything about each other.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.01.08 06:13:00 -
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Alliances are the main content of the game as i see it.
Love or hate Curse/Fountain/Stain you all enjoy reading about us 
Besides without the wars going on right now im sure 3/4's of the alliances would ahve quit Eve to move onto other games. I know that PvP is the only aspect of the game keeping my interest right now
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 06:22:00 -
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Alliances are the main content of the game as i see it.
Love or hate Curse/Fountain/Stain you all enjoy reading about us
Besides without the wars going on right now im sure 3/4's of the alliances would ahve quit Eve to move onto other games. I know that PvP is the only aspect of the game keeping my interest right now
I have no doubt that things are interesting for you as a pirate having to battle every other alliance in Eve. and to tell you the truth...I found that reading posts about your wars can sometimes be entertaining and from an outsiders point of view up untill recent events no one in CA was posting about wins loses....in a way I kinda felt sorry for you guys because of all the lies that came from your enemys.
All I heard or read was that CA was losing. but I have heard that for Months now...even before I started playing. don't get me wrong....I still don't like your Pirate Alliance. but I dislike most of the people you fight against....(always had a soft spot for the underdog)
You all in the CA should just invite all the Pirates in game to your Alliance and be what you pretend not to be.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:13:00 -
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You all in the CA should just invite all the Pirates in game to your Alliance and be what you pretend not to be.
LMAO. This is quality sig material.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Rasta Rocketman
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Posted - 2004.01.08 09:27:00 -
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"I urge CCP to do something about these "alliances" they are nothing but griefers in this game."
I can respect your opinion about alliances being pirates, but just because they shoot any non-alliance tresspassers doesn't mean that they're greifers.
Most of the ships flying around are fitted with guns on them and most are military craft. I wouldn't expect to see one country's military freely waltzing into another country without being shot. So are all the different countries in this world pirates?
Just think of the alliances as seperate countries, if you want to go to their territory, you gotta get permission first.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 09:49:00 -
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"I urge CCP to do something about these "alliances" they are nothing but griefers in this game."
I can respect your opinion about alliances being pirates, but just because they shoot any non-alliance tresspassers doesn't mean that they're greifers.
Most of the ships flying around are fitted with guns on them and most are military craft. I wouldn't expect to see one country's military freely waltzing into another country without being shot. So are all the different countries in this world pirates?
Just think of the alliances as seperate countries, if you want to go to their territory, you gotta get permission first.
They don't give permission and they all used to charge...(Piracy)...and even when you paid there was no way that you wouldn't lose your ships cause they didn't know you have a pass or wouldn't believe you.
but I do see what your saying.....still pirates though]
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kisula
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Posted - 2004.01.08 10:00:00 -
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The sad thing is Sorsha is you are missing out on the thing that makes Eve unique among Mmorg by remaining in Empire Space.
No other game I have played can equal the real feeling of adrenalin involved in Pvp here,because there is always a chance to lose your hard earned ship.
That is why I personally do it and I guess thats why many others in all alliances do it too-it is only a game but the alliances offer the best opportunity for pvp.
It may come as a surprise to you but those of us who do take part generally are interested in the "score" posts-you dont need to read them
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.08 10:19:00 -
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I was going to write a long and nice reply. But now I decided not to, since the poster is an angry nub who really don't know anything.
And most of Homo's post are both funny and intelligent, your is none of that, so I say he should keep posting and you should shut it.
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and other have Kestrels and no beer... but they are dangerous too (they are trolling MASSivly on board).
ok, without joking:
And how the **** should I take that? I'm kinda the only MASS member posting on the forum and I'm very seldom trolling. And we fight in battleships, not Kestrels...
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2004.01.08 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Mordessa on 08/01/2004 10:45:53
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I urge CCP to do something about these "alliances" they are nothing but griefers in this game. Put battle ship pirates in open 0.0 space....make NPC Battleship pirates camp gates. So we don't have to listen to these lies anymore.
Wow
Alot of pent up rage here buddy.... So I am assuming you ventured into some alliance space and got yourself spanked into oblivion... Hey no problem, life goes on, mining another ship isnt all that bad.
Oh and by the way, just because some alliance did that to you does not make them a pirate, it makes them a protector of thier home space. Look at it from this perspective.
You own some property that basically holds a Gold mine, and a Diamond mine within that property. This property is in an area that has absolutely no police in it, or it will take weeks if not months for them to get there.
All of a sudden people show up and start taking your gold and your diamonds....
What would you do? Pat them on the back and shake thier hands as they left with truck loads of your gold and diamonds?
Yeah get real.
If alliance members are Pirates for holding and protecting thier space, then whatever. But you should at least know what WILL happen if you cross into thier territories, without properly contacting someone within that alliance just as if you come across MOO, SI or Biomass.
So basically it comes down to you having to make a choice.
Buy a Pass and hope for the best, or go and buy the high end stuff off the market.
Oh and by the way, about Alliance members posting alliance news/trolls/flames.....
No one is holding a gun to your head making you read them.
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sorsha Lightbringer on 08/01/2004 11:12:57
No I have not ventured out of Empire Space and got spanked....one of the first things some one taught me is that all Alliances kill noobs in ships no matter what. and I was told to stay out. so I do. I understand that PvP is cool and I am sure it gives you all a rush...truly I am happy for you all, Your getting your moneys worth and some day when I am all growed up in game I might venture to try PvP.
I just think that its a waist of time to post about something you can't show physical evidance of. there is no way to know. and it doesn't matter how many BS's you kill. because tomorrow the same guy you killed today will be in another BS and so on....no alliance can win!
And Alliances should admit that they are pirates. what they do is piracy. plane and simple.
Pent up rage? maybe but I feel lots better now that I have said something.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:15:00 -
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And Alliances should admit that they are pirates. what they do is piracy. plane and simple.
We ventured far out into unknown space where no laws applied and the only habitants was the NPC pirates in Sansha's nation. We made ourself a home out there. We created our own laws to apply in the previous lawless space. We got ourself the military power to enforce our laws.
How the **** can that be piracy 
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:17:00 -
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Truly...amazing...
We're all just monkeys banging on keyboards, sir... you can't prove a thing....
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sorsha Lightbringer on 08/01/2004 11:36:28
Because to the rest of Eve that are not in an alliance...you kill people who don't have permission to be in "your" space. when I look on the map is doesn't say Stain Alliance....so its really not your space. so when you kill people who go to Stain or Catch or for that matter any region of space that is 0.0 your no better if not worse then the NPC pirates who own that region.
If I was minning in Stain and was hauling mins out and got popped....you would say...well you don't belong here....by your rules....not ccp or any other...to me your a pirate killing me and stealing my cargo even though I would have done nothing to you or the people in that region.
All Alliances are pirates.....I learned it by reading these forums and hearing it from other players.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sorsha Lightbringer on 08/01/2004 11:36:28
when I look on the map is doesn't say Stain Alliance....so its really not your space.
So, CCP hasn't introduced POS yet. That's not my fault. But it really IS MY SPACE. Why? Because I say so and I can enforce that claim.
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If I was minning in Stain and was hauling mins out and got popped....you would say...well you don't belong here....by your rules....not ccp or any other...to me your a pirate killing me and stealing my cargo even though I would have done nothing to you or the people in that region.
What you do to me and the people in that region is that you steal my property. I've invested lots of time and isk in making it my home, and a home where I am safe. Then I won't allow someone else to come take what I'vd invested in.
And what you obviously don't get:
We are in a full scale war.
Before the war with Curse we had lots of other corps with passes to operate in Stain.
Just like any real life state we had strict boarder controls, and didn't let anyone in that we didn't know was friendly. And a pass was easily obtained by having a chat with the leaders.
Then war came to our home and just like any real life state would do we closed our boarders and no longer allow anyone to enter out territory unless they are there to help us fight.
It's all very simple. You know "jealousy doesn't demand"...
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ackath on 08/01/2004 12:05:42
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This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've read all year. Just to clarify:
You wish to make a complaint about all the players who you never see, who live & play in the areas that you never go to, and who post in the threads that you don't read.
Using your alt, you also wish to make a complaint about them "trolling". Just when I thought the whiners in Eve couldn't possibly out-do their previous efforts, theres always one to surprise you...
I subscribe to this comment and i urge everyone else to leave this thread to die.
Something this stupid can damage one man brains...
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:09:00 -
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I am not jealous Dalman. far from it, you guys are playing the way you see fit. but to everyone else your pirates plane and simple. don't worry I am not going into Sanshis Nation Territory. I know better.
And I do know for a fact that even before your war Stain Alliance of Pirates handed out pass's and what ever but not everyone in your pirate alliance knew who did and did not have permission to be there and lots of people who where friendly to SA got podded. Stain Alliance was no better then Curse Alliance.
its a wonder that you guys fight each other at all.
And the fact is that you can't claim what you can't protect. I know of people who travel there all the time. some of them get killed by you pirates and some dont. but its all the same and THATS what you dont get.
Everyone in Eve that I know calls you people Pirates and you are.
again the map doesn't say Stain Alliance. it says Stain Region. and when I look to see who it belongs to....its doesn't say Stain Alliance it says it belongs to Sanshas
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Sorsha Lightbringer
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ackath on 08/01/2004 12:05:42
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This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've read all year. Just to clarify:
You wish to make a complaint about all the players who you never see, who live & play in the areas that you never go to, and who post in the threads that you don't read.
Using your alt, you also wish to make a complaint about them "trolling". Just when I thought the whiners in Eve couldn't possibly out-do their previous efforts, theres always one to surprise you...
I subscribe to this comment and i urge everyone else to leave this thread to die.
Something this stupid can damage one man brains...
Now you know how the rest of eve feels when we read that dribble about your little wars
Don't you have some Pirating to do?
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