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Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.24 01:07:00 - [31] Found It. It was in the essential threads stickey. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.05.24 01:38:00 - [32] 4$ B3â0R3, P0$71N9 1N 4N 3P1( 7HR34- Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine!
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.24 03:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Shar Tegral Why should anyone trust you? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.24 03:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Rthor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282 If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise... stfu. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.24 03:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Rthor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282 If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise... stfu. The point is that he is hostile and so were you. And he is new and so were you in another thread before that one. There is really very little difference in his attitude from yours.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 04:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Rthor Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Rthor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282 If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise... stfu. The point is that he is hostile and so were you. And he is new and so were you in another thread before that one. There is really very little difference in his attitude from yours. He has pretty much admitted he was trying to scam. So you might want to watch who you vouge for.
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.24 04:04:00 - [37] Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Rthor Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Rthor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282 If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise... stfu. The point is that he is hostile and so were you. And he is new and so were you in another thread before that one. There is really very little difference in his attitude from yours. He has pretty much admitted he was trying to scam. So you might want to watch who you vouge for. Your logic chip is broken. Just because I say that Shar is a hypocrite that does not mean that I support whatever this IPO is.
Treelox Amarr Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.24 04:05:00 - [38] Originally by: Rthor Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Rthor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=491282 If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise... stfu. The point is that he is hostile and so were you. And he is new and so were you in another thread before that one. There is really very little difference in his attitude from yours. Shar is not new. He is an old hand who just hadnt been active on these boards for a bit. While he may have been hostile in the thread you linked, he was very upfront about that was how he was going to be. -- FTEK \| Production ~ Research ~ Sales ~ Omber Zombie's Wet Work
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.24 04:26:00 - [39] Originally by: DeathGrip He has pretty much admitted he was trying to scam. So you might want to watch who you vouge for. Well Mr Chu hasn't admitted to any scam attempt that I'm aware of so I'd rather not take it that far. Rthor is just upset because in my first he said things that he probably shouldn't have said and was told not to do so. So of course he continues to troll me whenever the opportunity presents itself. He further thinks that blithely calling me a hypocrite, for some unknown reason, is related to my being hostile to him in the past. Rthor, it is you that I dislike along with any other dramafying trolls. Not that you don't make some very good points but I think that you have zero intent for betterment or conversation. You just want drama even if you have to join on in. I can tell you that your actions will not disrupt my sleep one iota. I care little for the yappings of people making pointless accusations. In fact continue, you'll only prove my point. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.05.24 08:12:00 - [40] Jiraid Chu, if you re-read this thread you will see I did not flame, troll or even question your credibility. Yet you took it upon yourself to troll my thread with baseless scam accusations. Why is that? \| Current Tech II BPO Auctions \| BMBE ISK Loans \|
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:02:00 - [41] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: DeathGrip He has pretty much admitted he was trying to scam. So you might want to watch who you vouge for. Well Mr Chu hasn't admitted to any scam attempt that I'm aware of so I'd rather not take it that far. Rthor is just upset because in my first he said things that he probably shouldn't have said and was told not to do so. So of course he continues to troll me whenever the opportunity presents itself. He further thinks that blithely calling me a hypocrite, for some unknown reason, is related to my being hostile to him in the past. Rthor, it is you that I dislike along with any other dramafying trolls. Not that you don't make some very good points but I think that you have zero intent for betterment or conversation. You just want drama even if you have to join on in. I can tell you that your actions will not disrupt my sleep one iota. I care little for the yappings of people making pointless accusations. In fact continue, you'll only prove my point. He came into the IPO channels we gave him all kinds of advice and what he did with that advice was go into other people's threads and start calling them scams and running is mouth more. To me that means he admits it which makes all his supports in this thread scammers or helping a scam as well.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:26:00 - [42] Edited by: Taurequis on 24/05/2007 11:26:39 Hi, Just a hello to all the IPO ho's out there. I'm back and reading these forums again. On topic - I'm not convinced mainly on issues of not having a clue who this person is asking for 80 bil of public money. Second - Quote: I will no be able to go in depth because that could ruin the current market condition hence hinder the investment however it will revolve around bulk tech two component purchasing, purchasing of tech two BPO in bulk to hold a significant market share to affect price for an even better return, we will also make heavy use of inventions to once again play a larger part in the market, and look at ways to maximize and massive freighter trade runs to add a significant instant cash to make sure that when the market is down payout will continue unhindered. Doesnt seem like a amazing use of 90 bil, frankly anyone buying tech 2 bpo's and trying to corner any market within the context of all this invention and price dropping is a high risk in my mind. We are moving to an age where tech 2 prices are dropping to base profit across the board. Sure enough i see the profit from component bpo's but if your maybe trying to nick all the bits off the market while creating shortages for other manufacturers in the specilist tech 2 bpo' areas you are buying into then all i see happening is more people will produce those tech 2 components to fill the gap. Beyond buying the tech 2 bpo's why can't you just do all the things you aim to do with the 14 bil you have already? Thereby keeping all your profits and not bothering with the hasstle of asking for another 80 bil of other peoples cash? Best Regards, Taur p.s Everyone get back on the analysis, not the name calling or forumbomb drama.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:34:00 - [43] Originally by: Taurequis p.s Everyone get back on the analysis, not the name calling or forumbomb drama. Qft. After integrity I would say the next red flag that waves, imho, is the rate of return. He'd have to do damn near 20 Billion per month to keep up with the monthly interest payments and sock away isk for the maturity date. Not impossible but I'd have to say stretching any plausibility in the business plan as we have seen it. Moot point though. He's shot his credibility by going off the deep end in Ray's thread, as DeathGrip pointed out. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:58:00 - [44] I think it's safe to say by now that I know something about how an IPO or Bond Issue should be structured. And your plan is NOT detailed enough. Your post contains fluffy language and is void of any specific details. There is no exit strategy. There is no statement of risks. There is no disclosure of characters. There is no discussion of how you can maintain 12% growth with 90 billion in cash. Your character and the characters of those who vouch for you have little to no credibility because (unfortunetly) they all look like alts. You need to put more thought and time into presenting your plan to investors. You need to get a better attitude because these ARE the kinds of questions investors ask. Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
Jiraid Chu Galactic Distribution Industries	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:21:00 - [45] ALL ISK HAS BEEN FUNDED THANK YOU TO THE FORUM WARRIORS OF EVE FOR RUINING THIS IPO. You know its funny i was offering a higher interest rate then any of these other self proclaimed protector of public interest . I guess slamming a guy and leering him into a forum war does the job. Sorry guys thanks for those that invested and down the road I will be offering another public ipo, but will be doing so it largely with private investor and without the eve online forums. Look at this little forum cartel and how they becam the self proclaimed experts its ok enjoy it I will get back to actually playing the game. I love how complicated they try to make this game seem. Galactic Distribution Industries BOND sale http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=525007
Jiraid Chu Galactic Distribution Industries	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:23:00 - [46] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Taurequis p.s Everyone get back on the analysis, not the name calling or forumbomb drama. Qft. After integrity I would say the next red flag that waves, imho, is the rate of return. He'd have to do damn near 20 Billion per month to keep up with the monthly interest payments and sock away isk for the maturity date. Not impossible but I'd have to say stretching any plausibility in the business plan as we have seen it. Moot point though. He's shot his credibility by going off the deep end in Ray's thread, as DeathGrip pointed out. Good old public beatdown if one post doesnt work hey lets get like 5 guys we all know in eve and just fire up the flame mobile yay. Galactic Distribution Industries BOND sale http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=525007
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:42:00 - [47] Why does everyone copy my IPO text and edit it? At least he edited it a lot more than the last guy :p. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:32:00 - [48] Originally by: Jiraid Chu Sorry guys thanks for those that invested and down the road I will be offering another public ipo, but will be doing so it largely with private investor Is that not an oxymoron? But I digress, I hope that you do succeed in your stated goals however I agree, public funding is most definitely not for someone as unstable as you. Perhaps once you reach your majority you'll understand some of the issues raised. Perhaps... ... Till then, I wish you well during summer holiday and I plan on seeing much more of you wherever I can. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. ElweSingollo> Eve is P v P not P v GM.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:39:00 - [49] Originally by: Jiraid Chu ALL ISK HAS BEEN FUNDED THANK YOU TO THE FORUM WARRIORS OF EVE FOR RUINING THIS IPO. You know its funny i was offering a higher interest rate then any of these other self proclaimed protector of public interest . I guess slamming a guy and leering him into a forum war does the job. Sorry guys thanks for those that invested and down the road I will be offering another public ipo, but will be doing so it largely with private investor and without the eve online forums. Look at this little forum cartel and how they becam the self proclaimed experts its ok enjoy it I will get back to actually playing the game. I love how complicated they try to make this game seem. I am not an expert but your 12% isn't better than any of the other self proclaimed bla bla bla. I think my IPO about doubled that for a few months, added 4% to that for a few months, and hit 12% the rest of the months except possibly the first month. Glad to see you are still crying, whining, complaining instead of fix'ing. I don't think you realize the people attacking you in here are probably some of the largest investors in the game, and to hit 90bil you would need them. ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Jiraid Chu ALL ISK HAS BEEN FUNDED THANK YOU TO THE FORUM WARRIORS OF EVE FOR RUINING THIS IPO. You know its funny i was offering a higher interest rate then any of these other self proclaimed protector of public interest . I guess slamming a guy and leering him into a forum war does the job. Sorry guys thanks for those that invested and down the road I will be offering another public ipo, but will be doing so it largely with private investor and without the eve online forums. Look at this little forum cartel and how they becam the self proclaimed experts its ok enjoy it I will get back to actually playing the game. I love how complicated they try to make this game seem. Let me say one last thing, a parting word if you will and some honest advice here: I am the ONLY business consultant in EVE that I know of. I specialize in IPO's, Bonds, business plans, and I run a modestly successful trading workshop teaching fundamental economic concepts. I've played a hand in one of the largest IPO's to hit the market and my IPO template has been used by half a dozen or more (successful) IPO's. I am a self proclaimed expert because, quite frankly, I've proven I am. There are many others in this thread whose resumes and backgrounds are equally or even more impressive than mine...and we are all telling you the same thing: your IPO needs more work and that you MUST grow a thicker skin if you expect to deal with public investors. They ask hard, tough, probing questions for a very good reason. Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
Marodi Julita Sublime Captial Investments	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:11:00 - [51] Look, the whole thing about IPO's is it shows if you have the balls to be able to deal with actually running the IPO. If you can get through the IPO threads with logical and coherent posts without insulting the people posting you will get through. Rivers Enterprises got ripped to shreads when it had it's IPO but he had a vision and followed it through, and made the investors tons of money. But you don't seem to have the ability to answer the basic problem of credibility. Without credibility, you will go no where. And that's where this thread has gone. No where.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:06:00 - [52] Originally by: Jiraid Chu ALL ISK HAS BEEN FUNDED THANK YOU TO THE FORUM WARRIORS OF EVE FOR RUINING THIS IPO. You know its funny i was offering a higher interest rate then any of these other self proclaimed protector of public interest . I guess slamming a guy and leering him into a forum war does the job. Sorry guys thanks for those that invested and down the road I will be offering another public ipo, but will be doing so it largely with private investor and without the eve online forums. Look at this little forum cartel and how they becam the self proclaimed experts its ok enjoy it I will get back to actually playing the game. I love how complicated they try to make this game seem. There was not, and is not, anything to prevent you from running your IPO without anyone in this forum's permission or endorsement. If you can pull off a successful company, more power to you. I'll be watching. In my experience, however, you need to be a lot more level-headed and, for lack of a better term, anal-retentive to pull off an IPO on this scale. As an example of what I mean, the only person I know who has anything approaching your lack of attention to detail when it comes to communication, but is nonetheless, paradoxically, a great IPO CEO, is Proton Power/DeathGrip. All the other successful public companies' forum communications have been characterized by well-formed sentences with impeccable grammar and spelling, coupled with readable and informative data layout formats. Basically, if you can pull off the returns you describe, and if you have all the friends who trust you as you claim, get them to invest in you, make a crapton of money for them, and then come back to us in a year or so. MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral compression!
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:50:00 - [53] Originally by: Ray McCormack Jiraid Chu, if you re-read this thread you will see I did not flame, troll or even question your credibility. Yet you took it upon yourself to troll my thread with baseless scam accusations. Why is that? And I continue to question why you find it neccessary to troll my thread with semi-baked concoctions simply to wage a personal vendetta against me for posting some advice in this thread. I did not question your integrity nor label you as a scam, why do you persist in doing the same to me? \| Current Tech II BPO Auctions \| BMBE ISK Loans \|
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.05.25 11:45:00 - [54] He was obviously never fit to run a public corporation, and his true colors have well and truly been shown. This is why I enjoy these forums and the approach potential investors take with securing their investments. Ray, I wouldn't take it to heart, his word will not be taken with a grain of salt, and his reputation (at least in the market forums) is tarnished for life. This is all his doing, after showing the perfect traits on how not to run a public offering. Scam or no scam, there is no way in hell I would trust this person with any amount of my isk. Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine!
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.25 17:16:00 - [55] Those who made some of the "how to run an IPO" threads might want to link to this one as an example of what NOT to do. MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral compression!
Lisa Ji	Posted - 2007.05.26 02:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Jiraid Chu ..down the road I will be offering another public ipo... tautology ftw!

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