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Princess Trinity
Astro Tech N Trade
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:49:00 -
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The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
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Jenny's Boy
Demise and Vestige
9th Fleet
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:51:00 -
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Hey I know you.
And your idea? No.
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Marq's sneaky alt!
I'd post with my main... but he's banned. Onoes.
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DarkFenix
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:55:00 -
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So, where's this good idea you mentioned in the title?
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w0rmy
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Princess Trinity
The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
Or just remove cloaks 
Originally by: CCP Oveur
I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
And? How would it solve cloaking in safespot?
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: DarkFenix
So, where's this good idea you mentioned in the title?
Prolly a new way of sca... nvm
The idea of a cloak is you cannot SEE someone.
Leave it alone.
Originally by: Terazuk
Originally by: ForceM
DUDE ...HELL NO
Thankyou, someone at least marginally sensible.
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Tradari
Gallente
The BlackMerX
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tradari on 24/05/2007 12:58:20
ar you on about level in the cloaking skill?
And this idea is so like world of warcraft the higher levels can see rogues that hide in shadows.
Prefer it to stay as it is TBH
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:00:00 -
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Hey I know about these cool things called faction smartbombs
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PORNH
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:04:00 -
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Well I think you should be able to scan cloaked ship normally but the cloaking device should give an increase in sensor strenght so it is harder to be scanned moreover if you are found ie people travel to your location you should be cloaked still so they will have to bump you with something (ship , smartbomb , drone)
This would make afk cloakcking impossible and normal cloacking like before. No sleep while afk.
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: ****H
Well I think you should be able to scan cloaked ship normally but the cloaking device should give an increase in sensor strenght so it is harder to be scanned moreover if you are found ie people travel to your location you should be cloaked still so they will have to bump you with something (ship , smartbomb , drone)
This would make afk cloakcking impossible and normal cloacking like before. No sleep while afk.
Punctuation FTW
Originally by: Terazuk
Originally by: ForceM
DUDE ...HELL NO
Thankyou, someone at least marginally sensible.
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:07:00 -
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ive said it before and ill say it again.
Introduce fuel based cloaking consumption. The bigger the ship/worse the cloak, the more fuel it chews. This would eliminate bs cloakers when ratting as well as afk ss covert ops. The cloak would still function as planned- but it would eliminate the misuse of it.
But just like everytime i mention this, I expect to be
a) drowned out by whinners
b) trolled out by griefers
c) bored out of my mind by irrelevant posters
d) ignored
e) are you even still reading this?
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w0rmy
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: ****H
Well I think you should be able to scan cloaked ship normally but the cloaking device should give an increase in sensor strenght so it is harder to be scanned moreover if you are found ie people travel to your location you should be cloaked still so they will have to bump you with something (ship , smartbomb , drone)
This would make afk cloakcking impossible and normal cloacking like before. No sleep while afk.
Or make it possible to probe them, but it takes 30minutes + to probe them.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: ForceM
Originally by: ****H
stuff
Punctuation FTW
You should get on that.
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Ciphero
Furious Vendetta
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:10:00 -
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Someone remind me why cloaking is a problem, in its current state?
When answering, kindly remember that a cloaked ship has a grand total of zero offensive abilities, and "I don't like his name being in local" is not a valid answer. |
ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ciphero
Someone remind me why cloaking is a problem, in its current state?
When answering, kindly remember that a cloaked ship has a grand total of zero offensive abilities, and "I don't like his name being in local" is not a valid answer.
Gotha agree with the fact that a covert ops does not have any (and i dun count a 150mm gun as offensive) methode of serious attack.
The problem is indeed that for a covert ops it has to be covert .. but ppl still notice them in local.
In the real world that would not have happened and it would be really covert.
Just be happy you KNOW you'have a spy ... act on it :)
Originally by: Terazuk
Originally by: ForceM
DUDE ...HELL NO
Thankyou, someone at least marginally sensible.
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Psyllus Ktenas
Amarr
BlackHole Entertainment
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
End yourself.
There is also an entire subforum dedicated for such "improvments".
I suggest you start using it and stop to ******* spam all other forums with your rubbish.
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Foose69
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Foose69 on 24/05/2007 13:39:45
Gesh all these nerf cloaking threads these days. First we had the nerf missiles then nerf drones closley followed by nerf stabs we also have some nerf cap ships going on as well.....
So here is my nerf idea wipe the cluster clean and start over that will nerf everybody including the people who have put countless months into training the skills to actually fly the ship / kit that they now have,
But seeing as that is a very absolute way of doing things CCP would loose a rather large amount of players after having spent their monthly subs to get to where they are.
TBH all of this nerfing is generally making it easier for griefers or thoes who dont seem to have the paitence to wait out gaining skills for them selves.
As for the cloaking nerf every one makes mistakes at times and the cloak should be left as it is the people using them will get greedy and take that one last risk but itl catch them out and they will get poped...
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Caletha Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:44:00 -
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Why are you trying to fix something thats not broken in the first place. Cloak == Invisible == Working.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:59:00 -
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Oh for the love of God. In order to fix cloaking, it would have to be broken in the first place. It's not, so go away.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:04:00 -
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Reminds me of Anarchy Online...
Every character had a built-in stealth mode, effectiveness depending on some attribute I don't remember.
so if you specialized in that, only a handful people could see you when stealthed, which was kinda neat to spy on people with.
Not sure how this would work in EVE though. 5 skill levels are not really enough for such a system.
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Princess Trinity
Astro Tech N Trade
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:18:00 -
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wow Im being told to "END MYSELF, for coming up with a idea...
Dark Shikari makes a similar thread and all i see is everyone posting /signed
I would bet my soul if our exact posts were reversed, It would give the same reactions.
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Judas Lonestar
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:22:00 -
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Cloakings broke? When did that happen?
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Kruel
Save our Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:23:00 -
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You can't "fix" what's not broke.
Cloaking has been in the game for a long time. Now a couple people complain and all of the sudden everyone's jumping on the "nerf cloaks!" bandwagon.
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Princess Trinity
Astro Tech N Trade
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
You can't "fix" what's not broke.
Cloaking has been in the game for a long time. Now a couple people complain and all of the sudden everyone's jumping on the "nerf cloaks!" bandwagon.
got to admit your right, im always accusing people of following midnless mobs...
I saw DS post it and tried to make a better post, but didn't think about if what im posting even needed to be posted.
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Alerean
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
wow Im being told to "END MYSELF, for coming up with a idea...
Dark Shikari makes a similar thread and all i see is everyone posting /signed
I would bet my soul if our exact posts were reversed, It would give the same reactions.
Well, that's because Dark Shikari posted a better idea, having cloaking cost fuel sounds great to me (it kinda works from an RP standpoint too, exotic technology requires exotic stuff, and so on), whereas cloakers being able to see each other "just like that"? not so good.
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JourneymanDave
devastation mining inc
Hell Hounds
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: papamikeforthewin
ive said it before and ill say it again.
Introduce fuel based cloaking consumption. The bigger the ship/worse the cloak, the more fuel it chews. This would eliminate bs cloakers when ratting as well as afk ss covert ops. The cloak would still function as planned- but it would eliminate the misuse of it.
But just like everytime i mention this, I expect to be
a) drowned out by whinners
b) trolled out by griefers
c) bored out of my mind by irrelevant posters
d) ignored
e) are you even still reading this?
Winner. And I say that as a frequent cloaking ship pilot.
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Yarek Balear
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:33:00 -
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How many threads we need about this ffs ???
Op idea is a no-no, rediculous idea...
Other replies: Sure, introduce fuel - but don't affect Covert Ops Cloaking Device II - means ships that aren't intended to cloak can't use it indefinitely to hide...
Don't nerf ships that are either combat incapable (what problem does a covert ops perma-cloaked in a safe really pose anyway - they still need to bring someone else in to actually do anything) or Force Recon / Stealth Bomber which have attack and defense capabilities that are relatively weak (remember these ships take time to train for just like commands/hacs etc and they can't match their defensive or offensive capabilities).
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Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
Really mate JUST FU ** OFF .. with ya stupid none cloaking sh*** am sick & tired of this cloaking whine crap .. Deal with it... its been around for ages.. we had no nano .. no WC .. You think ya should take away cloaking aswell???.. CCP you do this .. ur Game will DIE!
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Trajan Halbrand
Wraiths Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:14:00 -
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I didn't know cloaking was broken. Seems to work fine for me
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
The problem with cloaking is it makes someone 100% Impossible to find
what if... Someone that is cloaked can See other people that are cloaked depending on cloaking skill level,
If you are higher or same level you can see them, and if you are lower you cant.
You would need to be cloaked to find someone cloaked.
AHAHA, a self admitted scammer crying, its delicious. 
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