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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari
The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:46:00 -
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Hey,
We got capital Shield transfers, captital railguns and all kinds of Capital mods but we only have Large smart Bombs.
Is there any plan to implement a capital sized SmartBomb, One that takes 10000 pg and what not but has a 10km blast range and does like 1k base damage but only has a 20 second timer and requires smart bombs 5 and advanced smartbombs 3 or something.
What you think?
Adm
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TheFirstInquisitor
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:46:00 -
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Yes, i beleive this module is called a "doomsday device" fired by titans.
Until god gets over here and says otherwise, I am the defacto ruler of the univere.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari
The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:56:00 -
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How about something in between Battleships and Titans???
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Stellar Vix
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:58:00 -
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The item your looking for is known as Seige Smartbombs, if i recall right they did 1000 damage of thier type and had a 15km range but cap powergird and cpu usage makes them an undesired weapon to mount.
This however is database only and never been seen in Tranquility or Singularity, it might have surfaced on the Devs private playgrounds but thats it.
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TheFirstInquisitor
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Posted - 2007.05.26 00:58:00 -
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Between battleships and titans?
as in some sort of a capital smartbomb, aka a DDD?
or use a faction one, depends what u want tbh
Until god gets over here and says otherwise, I am the defacto ruler of the univere.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari
The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:09:00 -
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The rate at which carriers are dieing in direct conflict rather then orbit pos at 30 km demonstrates that larger and more viable protection is required.
When I started this game 3.5 years ago the first bit of advice was to fit the right sized mod for the ship. IE: a 1MN MWD doesn't serve well on your Raven. So in the interests of use the right mod on the right ship I find it necessary to have alarger smart bomb or a mini(er) DDD if that the way you need to think to understand my issue.
BTW I can already use the DDD but not the right ship for it yet.
Adm
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TheFirstInquisitor
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
The rate at which carriers are dieing in direct conflict rather then orbit pos at 30 km demonstrates that larger and more viable protection is required.
When I started this game 3.5 years ago the first bit of advice was to fit the right sized mod for the ship. IE: a 1MN MWD doesn't serve well on your Raven. So in the interests of use the right mod on the right ship I find it necessary to have alarger smart bomb or a mini(er) DDD if that the way you need to think to understand my issue.
BTW I can already use the DDD but not the right ship for it yet.
Adm
Hang on, DDD needs capital ships 5 AND relevant titan skill to 1 - and you cant fly the titan?
Until god gets over here and says otherwise, I am the defacto ruler of the univere.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari
The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.26 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: TheFirstInquisitor
Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
The rate at which carriers are dieing in direct conflict rather then orbit pos at 30 km demonstrates that larger and more viable protection is required.
When I started this game 3.5 years ago the first bit of advice was to fit the right sized mod for the ship. IE: a 1MN MWD doesn't serve well on your Raven. So in the interests of use the right mod on the right ship I find it necessary to have alarger smart bomb or a mini(er) DDD if that the way you need to think to understand my issue.
BTW I can already use the DDD but not the right ship for it yet.
Adm
Hang on, DDD needs capital ships 5 AND relevant titan skill to 1 - and you cant fly the titan?
Right, The revelent titan skill is lacking, so you got me. I guess I can't technically use the DDD since I can't fly the titan. Cap ships 5 and energy pulse weapons to 5. The 4.5 bisk for the titan skill seems like a silly investment until such a time as I have the 70 - 90 bisk for the ship. And someone to have a spare to sell me.
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Miz Cenuij
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:07:00 -
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great idea.
Signed.
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sacul on 26/05/2007 02:18:01
Yes, i beleive this module is called a "doomsday device" fired by titans.
looks like a certain fighter used by a certain carrier......
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Captain Stephanie
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sacul
Edited by: Sacul on 26/05/2007 02:18:01
Yes, i beleive this module is called a "doomsday device" fired by titans.
looks like a certain fighter used by a certain carrier......
Did you actually read the thread before posting this?
That comment was made way earlier and completely covered but hey thnaks for your imaginative and creative input into this topic.
Steph
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:12:00 -
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lol factions SBs are already uber enough on such ship sizes :p
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Captain Stephanie
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:15:00 -
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yeah, I will put 2 1 bill isk smarties on the big bulls eye.
HAHAHAHA
That will look good in the death mail.
How about jsut an appropriate sized mod for the ship.
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Moore cyno
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:16:00 -
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Actually its called officer SB's, 10.5k range, 700ish damage, go buy one, they are only about 6bill
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Quarc
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Posted - 2007.05.26 04:53:00 -
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You say "One that only takes 10,000 PG"
 Now, I am not sure if you missed a zero, or, you really mean ten thousand.
Althought, I agree with you somthing (Read below for more details) If it was able to be mounted onto a battleship, and, could do 1K damamge, with, a 10KM range, that would make a battleship into a flying "Anti interceptor / frig" ship. That, would be a bad idea, would not even allow an interceptor to web somthing without a chance of him being able to insta pop you. [As you may know, most interceptors will hardly reach 700 HP, and, they do not have tanks other then speed]
If you intended somthing more suitable, like 100,000 etc... Read below.
Currently, officer smartbombs, the 9-10.5KM ones, are very valuable, due to the fact that they are typicly put on capital ships. This, I can understand, makes sense.
The effects of making this item, would have the following effects.
1) Greatly reduce the value of high end smartbombs
2) Provide a cheap method, for carriers / motherships, to be safe, from smaller ships / drones, rather then the exisiting very expensive method
In return, however, I must support the idea somewhat
I understand that most carrier pilots not funded by a large allaince, can not afford such an officer smartbomb.
This would provide an alternative, however, typicly, a disadvantage would come with anything.
Few possabilitys (Not inteded to be combined, just pick one)
1) Very large cap requirement, basicly, you turn it on for a blast or two, will reduce your abbility to run a rep.
2) Have a penalty, much like a MWD, to the extent that it cuts off a part of the base cap, due to "Mountting requirements" Say, 10-25%? Possably reduced by a skill?
Just my thoughts, overall, I like the idea due to the cost of officer smartbombs, however, it would certanly need a disadvantage.
/Q
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.26 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
How about something in between Battleships and Titans???
as if cap ship isn't already absolute deleting to many ships already...
rander anything else then cap ships useless compared...
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:23:00 -
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good idea. but rather go for 150 000PG so you cant fit it on a ffreaked out abba :D.
for all the officer-smartbomb genius:
next time you complaint about a capital's tank get an officer fitted maelstrom/raven/scorp/rokh shieldtank and compare it. 95% resists ARE possible on those!
if we are at it we might also introduce some new ships with bonus to smartbombs so the non-capitals get used more often.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 26/05/2007 08:51:36
Yes CCP, please give us yet another mod that will make the MS even more overpowered and simply impossible to stop since it will WTFPWN every dictor that approaches it. What ?; off-c you can bump the MS, what i-stabb nerf.
Wish some ppl would stop and think before posting tbfh.
PS: 10.5km range for Draclira and Chelm, 525 base damage, 10s cycle, 130 cap activation.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.26 09:08:00 -
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I doubt we'll get Capital Smart Bombs, for one simple reason:
None of the large ships should be solo pwnmobiles.
I'd love to have 2 or 3 such Smart Bombs on the Thanatos I'm in the process of getting, but I seriously doubt they'll even make it in game.
If it means you can operate your capital ship in even limited safety without an escort, it should not be added to the game.
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Stakhanov
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.26 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Auron Shadowbane
if we are at it we might also introduce some new ships with bonus to smartbombs so the non-capitals get used more often.
Goonfleet threatened to leave Eve last time this was suggested... 
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General Apocalypse
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.26 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Auron Shadowbane
if we are at it we might also introduce some new ships with bonus to smartbombs so the non-capitals get used more often.
Goonfleet threatened to leave Eve last time this was suggested...
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.05.26 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Auron Shadowbane
if we are at it we might also introduce some new ships with bonus to smartbombs so the non-capitals get used more often.
Goonfleet threatened to leave Eve last time this was suggested...
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.05.26 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Auron Shadowbane
if we are at it we might also introduce some new ships with bonus to smartbombs so the non-capitals get used more often.
Goonfleet threatened to leave Eve last time this was suggested...
isnt that another positive side effect of introducing them then? *eg*
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.26 12:08:00 -
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Bad idea, unless you make interdictor bubbles immune to smartbombs. Then it might be something decent while not overpowered.
For carriers being not tought enough on the battlefield, the triage mod should help a lot, making the Archon and Chimera probably the best tankers in-game...
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Rawthorm
Gallente
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2007.05.26 12:14:00 -
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This would efectivly end the carriers role as anything other than a glorified hauler. If every capital you face suddenly had some uber bombs on, you've never be able to use your carriers against them.
This of course would be diferent if carriers and motherships were able to field some kind of heavy fighterbomber that launches missiles from a larger orbit range for use on POS, and Capitals.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.26 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
great idea.
Signed.
You're the number one argument for NOT implementing this concept. Ginger and Tiller are tied for #2. Like we really need you guys autoganking even larger and larger ships with your smartbomb gatecamps.
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.05.26 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
The rate at which carriers are dieing in direct conflict rather then orbit pos at 30 km demonstrates that larger and more viable protection is required.
The Triage mode featuring in Rev 2 will go a considerable way towards cutting frontline Carrier deaths.
Carrier smartbombs however are not something I would support. Their lack of hardpoints was presumably to limit their direct offensive capability, introducing a carrier smartbomb would run entirely counter to that.
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aquontium
Gallente
Fourth Circle
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:10:00 -
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Tbh this would suck. Seen what a MoM does camping a gate now?
6 stabs, 5 capital smartbombs and 5 CRII's does not a well-balanced ship make. and that's only a thanatos. Want to add 17 fighter to the mix ...........really?
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:19:00 -
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Faction smarties already make Titans and Mothership immune to dictor bubbles, but you want to make them bigger?
Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari
FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.05.26 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Luigi Thirty on 26/05/2007 16:00:44
It is an aurora ominae, an amarrian doomsday used by titans.
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