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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.05.26 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 26/05/2007 19:13:34
Make trade hubs with 200 plus pilots in it on a regular basis low-sec. If the numbers dwindle to a more sensible amount for the server to cope with then it will revert to a Hi-sec system after a cooling off period.
From a role playing point of view it could because Concorde feel the system should cover the cost of their own security since it's so rich, or that the system itself wants independence for tax benefits etc.
Oh I'm not a low-sec ganker either who wants easy low-sec victims. True enough if the oportunity arises I dare say I will have a pop but I much prefer 0.0, and tbh I actually feel safer there than I do in hi-sec with or without wars as when i'm in empire it's not usually in PVP fitted ship and i'm shopping. So it would in fact effect the ease to which I get my replacements.
And ffs get rid of those fatty piccies or Lunas feelgood will start posting in here also!
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Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari
Leviathan Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:04:00 -
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surround Jita with Low security systems? or better yet 0.0 npc controlled systems 
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Dave White
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:05:00 -
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CCP said...somewhere....that they're going to be introducing constellational market delivery sometime soonÖ
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Cruthensis
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Posted - 2007.05.26 22:35:00 -
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Just make Jita into a text only interface a la 1970s. Ok, now hear me out...
"You enter 'Jita' in your ship. Which way would like to go?"
"Errrr...dock at station?"
"What is station?"
"Fly to Asteroid Belt"
"What is Asteroid Belt?"
*much swearing and trying to work out what it wants you to say*
I'm sure that should be less taxing on the servers.  |
Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari
Leviathan Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.26 23:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Cruthensis
Just make Jita into a text only interface a la 1970s. Ok, now hear me out...
"You enter 'Jita' in your ship. Which way would like to go?"
"Errrr...dock at station?"
"What is station?"
"Fly to Asteroid Belt"
"What is Asteroid Belt?"
*much swearing and trying to work out what it wants you to say*
I'm sure that should be less taxing on the servers.
Nitpickyness:
there are no belts in Jita
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lles
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Solution is very simple.
Make Jita a single station.
Every gate that currently loads you into Jita the system should just load you directly into Jita the station. Then you move the traffic that Jita 4-4 currently has to all the different systems that lead out of Jita, thus spreading the load.
And from what I see it would only take minor reprogramming (make the jump into jita load the station instead of the system, and make a choice screen as to what gate you want to jump out when you 'undock' from the station).
There, solved.
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Shofix Umgeh
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Posted - 2007.05.27 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Shofix Umgeh on 27/05/2007 00:37:49
They've already tried fixing 'Jita'... Yulai used to be THE main trade hub for the whole of EVE and it was by re-routing the stargates that Jita quickly became the main trade hub (largely down to Caldari mission runners IIRC)...
There will always be a need for a trade hub - some development suggestions might actually alleviate this, if you can trade at a hub without having to enter the system...
[EDIT: While they're at it, change agents to increase in quality the more you mission with them - but start them all at the same base level - then there's no need for all mission runners to end up in 1 or 2 systems)...
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IWantYourCorpse
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:09:00 -
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They're working on it, but it still isn't enough!!!
Oh, well, this post was a bad idea....
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Anehra
X-Fire
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:10:00 -
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I just got a GM to move Anehra out of Jita after being stuck on loading on jumping in.
It's the first time this ever happened to me and most of the time I just laughed at people whining about Jita-lag as it never happened to me.. maybe this new thing is because of the recent hardware issues they had, the lower capacity it runs on, or maybe someone is fighting in there? I have no clue.
But thanks to mr GM that saved my EVEning.
No more Jita for me for a while. :P
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:15:00 -
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Highway was removed years ago due to forum whineage
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity
Will this work ??
IM BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now where did they leave that "Post Reply" button...
Originally by: Terazuk
Originally by: ForceM
DUDE ...HELL NO
Thankyou, someone at least marginally sensible.
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Sabrioski
Originally by: Cruthensis
Just make Jita into a text only interface a la 1970s. Ok, now hear me out...
"You enter 'Jita' in your ship. Which way would like to go?"
"Errrr...dock at station?"
"What is station?"
"Fly to Asteroid Belt"
"What is Asteroid Belt?"
*much swearing and trying to work out what it wants you to say*
I'm sure that should be less taxing on the servers.
Nitpickyness:
there are no belts ANYMORE in Jita
fixed that for yah :)
Originally by: Terazuk
Originally by: ForceM
DUDE ...HELL NO
Thankyou, someone at least marginally sensible.
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Dragonrazor
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:52:00 -
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TBH people as a whole, will always seek to take the easiest most efficient route... You can't just tell those people complaining not to use Jita... It's like telling someone to cut off their nose to spite their face.
Interbus:
Pros:
1: You won't have to go to Jita to buy things, just the same constellation. (not sure about selling however).
2: It sounds like you can put things on sale anywhere in the constellation and it can be delivered to buyers, so you don't have to put your stuff on sale in Jita either to make sure it makes it to market. (this is both a pro, and potentially a Con).
3: For people involved in corp wars, Jita is often a no mans land of death, but a place many still HAVE to go unless they want to spend hours hunting the local market for scraps... Now, all you need to do is be in the right constellation, and you don't have to fear corp enemies popping you when you need to buy a new ship. This is good for EVERYONE.
4: Added cost for "shipping" of a product MAY help to make the first con listed below a non issue, but only if the cost of shipping is both fair, and expensive enough to thwart people from relying on it for everything.
Cons:
1: There will be less benefit for merchants in picking sale locations. That is, some corps and players benefit from selling based on location. Now location within a constellation is meaningless... This takes away from part of the economic PvP, and part of the point of cornering local markets or fighting them off etc. Part of the fun of starting a distribution outlet for your products, is finding one that is convenient for players to use that will make them come to you rather than two systems away. This is now a moot point within a constellation. The only thing that may save this is cost to ship fee's that interbus charges. So in the end, the impact will hopefully be slight, but it will still impact merchant location choices in a negative way.
Personally, I think one of the problems with eve is it's actual size... There are too many star systems... Yet there is little need to spread out. Everything you need to do well in this game can be gotten right next door to everything else... If you spread out a bit, you might gain a little extra ISK per activity, but that bonus is quickly offset by the cost in time to deliver or deal with logistics... and possibly face higher risks. Back in the old days, there were regional markets, while there was always some system in each region that was the hub, there were also smaller more local hubs as well.
TBH, EVE makes very inefficient use of the real estate in every system... I would love it if EVE shrunk to 500 systems, and the content in each system increased by a factor of ten, likewise, warp speed and other "travel" elements reduced by a factor of ten... Then allow pilots to freely navigate to anywhere in a system they want... Additionally allow players more freedom to set up their own infrastructure...
Make local space bigger basically... and in so doing encourage more local markets... Anyway thats my 2 ISK.
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Digital Anarchist
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:55:00 -
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We have to look at it from a different angle. People are there because they value trade over lag. "Fixing" trade in the form of a tax or another kind of (nefarious) nerf will just ruin gameplay.
In their CHOICE of lag over trade opportunity, people have PROVEN (by their actions) that they prefer the latter. So really, by nerfing trade you destroy people's options.
My two cents for people calling out for higher taxes.
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Futuris
Minmatar
Nano Ltd
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:07:00 -
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Can someone explain to me please - I have always thought the problem with Jita was lag. An obvious solution to lag is to fix the game so that it does not lag. Why are people even suggesting anything else?
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Desiderious
Gallente
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:12:00 -
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Been waiting for about 2 hours now, still cant get in Jita 
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Stephar
The High Priest
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:43:00 -
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I don't understand why people complain about Jita. It's not like it's the only market in town. I docked at a station in Rens last week in a shuttle, undocked in a fully fitted Drake. Did the same thing in Amarr this afternoon. Prices were great, and all the stuff I needed was in the station. The only time I go to Jita is for rare contracts, so maybe once every two months or so. For everything else, just go to the local hub.
It works the same way in the real world. If I want a cup of coffee or a bag of chips, I'll go to the convenience market across the street. If I want to prepare a full course meal, I'll drive down the road a ways to the local grocery store. And if I want some rare gourmet imports? In that case, I'd fight the traffic and head downtown to where all the speciality shops are at.
Of course, if your base of operations (or home) is 1 jump from Jita, you're probably going to have problems. But if you live in New York City, and don't like the crowds, what's stopping you from moving somewhere less populated?
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:10:00 -
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How about Un-nerfing War Decs & Nerfing Concord weapons Jamming. More successful suicide ganks and high-sec piracy, means less people will want to congregate where lots of other people are.
(Personally I could care less about Jita lag, I just want to remove High-Sec pirates from the endangered species list. I don't have actual data, but it can be seen they are less common than before. If we lose this majestic species, then we all lose )
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mightymadmat
Amarr
Equity Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:15:00 -
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As I had read earlier, make Jita a low-sec system, Concord must have a head ache maintaining security with such a high number of people there
Mighty Mad Mat
Quote : 0.0 space is ideal for strip mining - think of it in both ways.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:25:00 -
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make it easier to suicide gank haulers that wil fix it lower the sec status to a 0.5 system ( slower concord response time) more suicide ganks. Peeps will move elsewhere
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Reader Rabbit
Caldari
Trilobite Holdings LTD.
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Reader Rabbit on 28/05/2007 23:32:21
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This will cause the overflow of all race's new players to cause an even worse problem.
I say we have a Lowsec Jita day.
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Liliane Woodhead
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:58:00 -
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Go away from Jita ... this ****hole make me cough
( i am now in jita ... my fault *g*)
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:00:00 -
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make it 0.0 one day a week that should fix it
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Sgt Blade
Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:05:00 -
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tbh i dont think you can ever spread the market out enough for jita to not lagg anymore, in every MMO out there, ther will be some sort of MAIN market hub there no matter how god dam laggy it is every noob left right and center will always go there to sell stuff quickly/buy stuff cheaper ....
although jita isnt as laggy as what yulai was like back when those highways were up .... that or i have avoided jita enough to not notice how laggy it is
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Vana Gank
Gallente
Nosferatu Security Foundation
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:35:00 -
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Tax by popularity / station turnover
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Anehra
X-Fire
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stephar
I don't understand why people complain about Jita. It's not like it's the only market in town. I docked at a station in Rens last week in a shuttle, undocked in a fully fitted Drake. Did the same thing in Amarr this afternoon. Prices were great, and all the stuff I needed was in the station.
That's exactly why you want a main trade hub - for the stuff you *don't* find normally in any market. I buy my everyday stuff where I am - everyday. But Jita is where I transport stuff that has a small market where I live and that I know would sell better at a major trade hub - because those that want to buy it have a bigger chance to find it there, rather than jumping around whole Empire to try find it on the market.
Jita servers a purpose. It could've been Yulai or any other place. We still need it and will use it. It'll always be one centre somewhere.
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zibelthurdos
Archron Dusyfe Industries
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:28:00 -
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didn't CCP hint that they were bringing back interbus?
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