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Jera
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Posted - 2004.01.09 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jera on 09/01/2004 11:53:37
It is still shocked that we bring you this terrible new ! Young Timmy, the poor lad that has been cured thanks to Drink StarsiÖ and the 'Save Timmy' funds, recently meet a tragic end.
As he was getting much better, the lad was allowed to fly is own frigate. Under the close protection of his educational agent ship, he decided to visit the Caldari Prime ceremonial monument.
Alas due to an engine failure of yet unknow origin, his instructor was slowed and Young Timmy reached the monument alone. Well not so alone, since he signaled another ship at the worshiping place.
Then the surprise, the other ship was targeting him.
Then the screams and yells for help, the other ship was firing at his unarmed practice frigate.
Then the silence.
His instructor arrived too late, the aggressor was gone, Young Timmy ship was reduced to wreckage and scrap metal. Reinforcements arrived quickly afterwards, but no one managed to find Timmy capsule nor corpse.
We at Drink StarsiÖ want the truth to be know on what happened, so we are looking for witness and evidences. We thanks you in advance for your help in discovering who commited such a horrible crime !
Relevant informers may earn free StarsiÖ cans.
Discuss loyalty to the State issues on the 'Caldari' channel
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:00:00 -
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It was probably PFOM as they seem to be behind all ebilness atm 
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:11:00 -
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I assume responsibility for this "mercy" killing. Hired by a rich superpower I had no problem taking money for an easy job like this one.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Sforza
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:32:00 -
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At the moment, the Luminaire system is occasionaly infested with Caldari 'Freedom Fighters' or 'Murderers' (delete as applicable) .. so perhaps you should direct your questions at Mr Pojo and chums?
Sforza
CEO Vronsky Brothers and Sons
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cavtrooper on 09/01/2004 12:46:23 I cannot begin to convy the sorrow I feel at this time. I dont know if the chat logs survived, but my grieving has not stopped since this murder was broadcast in our channel. I hope that the Gallente responsible for this atrocity is found. It is a horrible day when a young man, just entering his prime, has his future taken from him. I will contribue donations to the "Timmy Memorial Fund" to help his family with the grieving, although no amount of ISK can make up for the loss.
It is a tense time in the universe right now, there is much blood on the Federation's hands. The reported attacks on Gallente in Luminaire by a militant patriot faction, and now the death of an innocent. I hope that the Timmy's killer is brought to justice and the Federation realises that the only way to quell the violence is to return Caldari Prime to its rightful owner.
I have to ask though, where was Concorde when Timmy was attacked? Are they not supposed to provide protection to all? With their recent attempted cover-up of Jera's attackers, and now their inability to protect the citizens of Caldari? Does this not show the corruption in Concorde as I have hypothosized? I would hope the State demands and internal investigation of Concorde, by a nuetral party, possibly the Amarr could handle this. I also would hope the State would demand reperations to be paid from the Federation for Timmy's murder. These of course would go to his grieving family members.
It is a sad day, let all Caldari mourn Timmy's loss, for he is the one who showed us fearlessness fighting the disease that stemmed from Quafe. A true hero.
In mourning, Cav
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:52:00 -
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This is just another example of the mindless aggresion of the Gallente against innocents. This further highlights the failures of Concorde to do it's job in a reasonable manner.
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HystericalAndUseless
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Posted - 2004.01.09 14:00:00 -
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I have followed the story of Timmy closely, and the scandal on Quafe's half. It really did disgust me. I've learnt a lot about the Caldari since I asked about your motivations and I do sympathize with your loss of Caldari Prime, however I will not discuss my opinions on how it was taken from you.
You seem to instantly jump to the conclusion that it was a Gallente that did this, a rash jump in my eyes, but it could have been anyone with the correct motivations. None of our cultures have shown that they are completely honourable.
I will aid in any way I can to help the murderer be confronted with justice.
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Sforza
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Posted - 2004.01.09 15:31:00 -
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Quote: It is a tense time in the universe right now, there is much blood on the Federation's hands. The reported attacks on Gallente in Luminaire by a militant patriot faction, and now the death of an innocent. I hope that the Timmy's killer is brought to justice and the Federation realises that the only way to quell the violence is to return Caldari Prime to its rightful owner.
I have to ask though, where was Concorde when Timmy was attacked? Are they not supposed to provide protection to all?
Does your rank hypocrisy ever bother you at all? It would me.. perhaps I'm a more moral creature than you.
Caldari Nationalists launch "attacks" on passing Gallente traffic in the Luminaire system. That is terrorism by the way. Look the word up if you wish. Yet you state that the blood is on Federation hands? I'm talking about current blood, the red stuff boiling away into space from the freezing bodies of Gallente pilots, not 100 year old blood. You seem to barely bat an eyelid at that.
Yet, when another innocent is killed in Luminaire, its all hand to reactionary pump, as this time its a Caldari child and the blame is instantly laid on the Gallente Federation. With no proof of any kind. If it was a Gallente pilot that did it, I hope the full force of Federation justice would have him in the biomass reprocessor without hesitation.
As for Concord, I would imagine they provided the same inadequate cover to Timmy as they did to the Gallente pilots who died in the last 24hrs.
Sforza
CEO Vronsky Brothers and Sons
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Sforza
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Posted - 2004.01.09 15:33:00 -
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This is just another example of the mindless aggresion of the Gallente against innocents. This further highlights the failures of Concorde to do it's job in a reasonable manner.
Proof please.
Yet another Caldari claiming the moral highground, while Gallente pilots die from the terrorism and murder that you seem to tactily support.
Sforza
CEO Vronsky Brothers and Sons
Council Member Ushra'Khan |

Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.01.09 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Cavtrooper on 09/01/2004 15:52:40
Quote: Yet you state that the blood is on Federation hands?
Of course the blood is on the Federations hands. A child was murdered in close proximety to the Gallente homeworld. And I suspect it is a Gallente agent yes, more than likely from the intelligence department or its front Quafe. Why else would someone murder a child? Timmy was living poof of that Quafe was dangerous.
As for these attacks in Luminaire, I have only heard reports. I have yet to hear of any killings, and none of the clones have come forward? So while the media would intend you to believe it is wide-spread and rampant attacks on the Gallente citizens from evil Caldari. I tend to believe it is more hype. Of course if innocents were attacked that would be wrong. BUT HERE, here is proof that an innocent was attacked....And the Federation and their mistress CONCORDE let it happen.
I would expect the Federation to bring this cold blooded killer to justice as more details come available. Of course CONCORDE has probably lost the transcripts of the attack. They seems only busy enough to harass law abiding citizens, and not hunt down killers.
Ad let us not forget who is causing all of this, the Federation. They still unlawfully possess control of Caldari Prime.
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.01.09 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 09/01/2004 16:42:48 After I found out about this murderous attack on young Timmy, I have spent many hours utilising my contacts and connections within DED and CalNav to try and find any information that could be relevant. What I did find was sparse. A distress call was made in Luminaire Local for assistance, and a remote DED drone dispatched to investigate. The drone only recovered one image before being destroyed by an unknown craft.
This is the image:
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:06:00 -
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I'm too shocked by the news to comment on it any further.
This is not a hijack
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:39:00 -
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Quote:
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This is just another example of the mindless aggresion of the Gallente against innocents. This further highlights the failures of Concorde to do it's job in a reasonable manner.
Proof please.
Yet another Caldari claiming the moral highground, while Gallente pilots die from the terrorism and murder that you seem to tactily support.
Until Caldari prime is freed I actively support it.
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 19:43:00 -
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This is another attempt from Caldari to throw dirt on us Gallente.
The only people attacking near Caldari Prime is you Caldari 'Freedom Fighters', You attacked and kill one of your own people and want to blame it on us to try and make us look like we are murderers, when it is clearly you caldari scum. ------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |

Demendar Boann
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Posted - 2004.01.09 20:14:00 -
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LOL we have no need to kill one our own to justify our fight against the Gallentes in Luminaire. Were fighting for the return of our home world, Caldari Prime. You Gallentes killing Timmy just adds fuel to the fire, and brings more Caldari patriots to our cause.
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.01.09 20:44:00 -
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I was in the same comm channel as Timmy lost contact... perhaps we can learn a lot from this scrap of evidence.
[ 2004.01.07 20:51:36 ] Young Timmy > Help!! [ 2004.01.07 20:51:36 ] Cavtrooper > Im on my way, only 27 jumps [ 2004.01.07 20:51:48 ] Cavtrooper > run timmy, [ 2004.01.07 20:51:50 ] Young Timmy > help me!! he's shooting at me!! [ 2004.01.07 20:52:04 ] Young Timmy > I can't my ships engine...zzztzt.... won'ty work. [ 2004.01.07 20:52:16 ] Young Timmy > they...zztt... scrambled!!! [ 2004.01.07 20:52:27 ] Cavtrooper > timmy who is attacking you [ 2004.01.07 20:52:30 ] Young Timmy > I can see his transponder code now... [ 2004.01.07 20:52:30 ] Cavtrooper > say it loudly [ 2004.01.07 20:52:41 ] Young Timmy > it's a Federation pilot!!!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:03 ] Cavtrooper > WHo timmy, Im almost there......only 35 more jumps [ 2004.01.07 20:53:08 ] Young Timmy > At...zzzttttt....s!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:17 ] Young Timmy > I can't my guns won't....zztt fire [ 2004.01.07 20:53:17 ] Cavtrooper > Im going as fast as this badger will go [ 2004.01.07 20:53:26 ] Young Timmy > help!! my sheilds! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:33 ] Young Timmy > MILLSON. help!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:38 ] Young Timmy > anyone [ 2004.01.07 20:53:41 ] Young Timmy > PLEASE! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:41 ] Cavtrooper > take a picture timmy [ 2004.01.07 20:53:44 ] Cavtrooper > Im on my way [ 2004.01.07 20:54:21 ] Young Timmy > ..... my ship...zzztt ... leaking atmos...re.. [ 2004.01.07 20:54:35 ] Young Timmy > ...elp... [ 2004.01.07 20:54:56 ] Cavtrooper > almost there timmy [ 2004.01.07 20:54:59 ] Cavtrooper > timmy? [ 2004.01.07 20:55:06 ] Cavtrooper > Oh Timmy?
Naturally swift justice must be wrought upon this 'at....s'.
In addition Timmy's corpse has been lost, a Caldari agent was sent to collect it from Caldari Prime but when he arrived it wasn't there, this is the most despicable kind of theft... or just a misfortunate mishap... but this corpse must be relocated if any kind of funeral is to go ahead so if you know anything at all about this please get in contact. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.09 20:44:00 -
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I am so enraged right now that I can hardly find the words. No more long winded speaches our course is clear, Gallenteans will die in droves to repay for their actions past and present. 
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 09/01/2004 21:01:08
Quote: [ 2004.01.07 20:51:36 ] Cavtrooper > Im on my way, only 27 jumps
Quote: [ 2004.01.07 20:53:03 ] Cavtrooper > WHo timmy, Im almost there......only 35 more jumps
Just like a caldari, run away! ------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |

Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:02:00 -
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That was a communications error, in my hast to get to Timmmy I must have read the instruments wrong. Who knows what happened. Damn you Gallente to call me a coward when I grieve so, haev you any respect?
Cav
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 09/01/2004 21:15:10
Quote: That was a communications error, in my hast to get to Timmmy I must have read the instruments wrong. Who knows what happened. Damn you Gallente to call me a coward when I grieve so, haev you any respect?
Cav
Respect? Respect?
You 'Freedom Fighters' attack innocent Gallente citizens simply because they are Gallente, and you want respect? Please.
Quote: Then the screams and yells for help, the other ship was firing at his unarmed practice frigate.
Quote: [ 2004.01.07 20:53:17 ] Young Timmy > I can't my guns won't....zztt fire
Unarmed? I think not.
------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:08:00 -
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Poor Timmy...
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:09:00 -
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I have spoken with Instructor Milson and the fact that the frigate was unarmed is explained by the way that Jimmy could not fire his guns. Though I am not surprised that you couldn't figure this out and try to say something that is not. The guns had been removed as it was just a training frigate. However, the interface was still present in the ship as when training of Caldari Pilots is complete, they are reactivated and weapons systems added.
Timmy was grasping at anything that could possibly save him. Even when faced by death he had enough training to know to try and at least do some damage to his gallenete attacker. However, Timmy didn't have any weapon systems active so his desperate attempts to fire his guns were to no avail and he was murdered in cold blood.
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:20:00 -
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Quote: Timmy was grasping at anything that could possibly save him. Even when faced by death he had enough training to know to try and at least do some damage to his gallenete attacker. However, Timmy didn't have any weapon systems active so his desperate attempts to fire his guns were to no avail and he was murdered in cold blood.
First you claim the ship was unarmed, and now you say it had weapons on, but they were inactive.
Inactive or not, if they are fitted on the ship, the ship is not "unarmed" because weapons could be activated in space.
Either way, This is just a plot by the caldari to try soil the Gallente. You support the killing of Gallente in Luminaire, yet when something happens to one of your own, you cry foul.
------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |

Celebon
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:36:00 -
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Try and read, foolish propagandist:
The guns had been removed as it was just a training frigate. However, the interface was still present in the ship as when training of Caldari Pilots is complete, they are reactivated and weapons systems added.
***** Yes, despite there being no guns there were still targetting sensor systems and he used those but no guns were there to fire therefore they were to him, not working. And considering I have spoken with the instructor who helped prep his ship I think I know more of the situation that you who is trying to spin things, poorly, for FedInt's purposes.
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:37:00 -
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Quote: Try and read, foolish propagandist:
The guns had been removed as it was just a training frigate. However, the interface was still present in the ship as when training of Caldari Pilots is complete, they are reactivated and weapons systems added.
So then why was he trying to fire his weapons again? If he knew they were not there?
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.01.09 23:02:00 -
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Quote: It was probably PFOM as they seem to be behind all ebilness atm 
ROFL Hardin you bugger you made me spill my quafe at that.
but thanx for the thoughts, i'll go back to my killing amarrians again.
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.01.10 01:54:00 -
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I offer my full support to the caldari freedom fighters, and offer my condolences to little timmys poor family.
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Agent Milson
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Posted - 2004.01.10 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Agent Milson on 10/01/2004 07:54:44 Hello,
Im sure many of have met me before. I am Agent Milson, I was Timmmy's instructor at the Acedemy. I would first like to say some words about Timmy.
A fine young man. This is the bet description I can give. He was courageous even when others were not. When people would not approach from fear, he was rather sickly looking, Timmy would hold his head up and be proud to be Caldari. Timmy was looking forward to graduation this year, and had a bright future ahead of him at Drink Starsi.
Timmy was special out of all of my students, a body so wrecked with disease, yet a mind that was on fire with wonder and patriotism. This is the reason I decided to take Timmy to see Caldari prime and the memorial. It was his dream to see the homeworld, to pilot a ship around the memorial.
I dont know what happened that say, they say my warp capacitor relays are the cause. I still think that I could have done more. Timmy was under MY protection and as such I am to blame for his demise. We never put guns on student training vessels. He had no chance, but, like a good Caldari, Timmy tried to fight back. Timmy attepted to fight back as I was callling to him, as Cavtrooper was racing to the seen, he tried to fight off his attackers.
I was trying to call to Timmy, to get him to come to me. I am no warrior but I would gladly give my life saving Timmy's or any of my students. My communications equipment was disabled when the relays went out. I could only hear the sounds of tragedy, the sounds that will haunt me for the rest of my life. The last sounds of Timmy.
I will broadcast what was recieved in my ship. Take in mind that the power surge from the relays had interefered with my communications gear, you only hear Timmy in his last minutes.
2004.01.07 20:51:34 ] Young Timmy > Help!! [ 2004.01.07 20:51:48 ] Young Timmy > help me!! he's shooting at me!! [ 2004.01.07 20:52:39 ] Young Timmy > it's a Federation pilot!!!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:08 ] Young Timmy > Atandros!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:16 ] Young Timmy > I can't my guns won't....zztt fire [ 2004.01.07 20:53:25 ] Young Timmy > help!! my sheilds! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:32 ] Young Timmy > MILLSON. help!! [ 2004.01.07 20:53:36 ] Young Timmy > anyone [ 2004.01.07 20:53:38 ] Young Timmy > PLEASE! [ 2004.01.07 20:54:20 ] Young Timmy > ..... my ship...zzztt ... leaking atmos...re.. [ 2004.01.07 20:54:33 ] Young Timmy > ...elp...
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.01.10 12:26:00 -
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Atandros: A member of the federal intelligence office, he is also very suspicious looking, i leave the decision of wether or not to kill this scum up to the caldari.....
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.01.10 16:06:00 -
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Gallenete, when you're a new pilot, under fire by hostile forces, you don't think much, you tend to react. In Timmy's case I can only guess that he activated his sensor suite and after getting lock hope that his ship in fact did have weapons. A scrap of hope is still hope and one that anyone would grasp for rather than lying down and getting blow to shreds.
So I'd advise you to quit trying to make a child out to be anything other than the victim here, or Jera out to be anything other than truthful in reporting the destruction of a defenceless ship. And the destruction was indeed by a Gallenete despite your attempts to claim otherwise.
And it was the Federation pilot Atandros. Again. You, scum, shall be hunted down like the murderous dog you are. Caldari retribution will be made upon you and your corrupt bretheran shall wince when they recall how painful your end was.
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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