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Blue Rook
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Posted - 2012.01.02 20:31:00 -
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Rose Hips wrote:Q: Would a Minmatar "Capsuleer" ever be a slave of an Amarr Capsuleer?
A: Yes. I know of one such Minmatar Capsuleer that was given to an Amarr Capsuleer as a gift by his mother. The Minmatar is quite skilled and hard working, only flying industrial ships and is never employed in combat. It was apparently the aim of the Amarr mother to ensure that her son didn't leave space untidy with rubble and wrecks, and also she indicated you should never arm the slaves.
The means of ownership/dominance of said slave are simple. The Amarr pays for the Minmatar's pilot license and clones, not to mention the Amarr has a permanent tracker affixed. If the Minmatar decided to run, he'd be promptly hunted down, and if he resists further the Amarr slave master would pod him and stop payment on the pilot license.
Slavery comes in many forms, physical shackles being more aptly replaced by economics and sociology. |

Blue Rook
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Posted - 2012.01.02 21:03:00 -
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Ghoest wrote:[quote=Eyup Mi'duck] My problem is that CCP tied a negative in game status to a real life group - and in a way parallels and magnifies some ugly history . If the in game groupings had not been tied to real life races I would be content to let people role play slavers.
Well.. the uglyness of history should always be magnified - atleast in so much that ignoring history dooms all to repetition. (feel the platitude burn) That being said, New Eden is riddled with barbaric practices - slavery, being only a fraction of them.
Ofcourse, I do think that restricting "black skin" to a single race is shortsighted. Specifically, at the minimum the Gallente should have access to the applicable skin-tone and features. Rationally speaking, the fact that all the Empires don't have a wider spread of ethnocentric qualities is a bit absurd IMO.
The fact that the Empires themselves do not have a united front on the motivations of a given capsuler is telling, despite the motivations doubtlessly instilled in said pilot by their origin cultures alone. IE: not all Amarr are devot racists, not all Gallente are freedom respecting altruists, not all Caldari are corporate lackies/oppresors, not all Minmatar are abolitionist rebel types, and not all Jovians are... well... weird.
Ethnic blending would have/should have happened enough to rationally justify access for every empire to have a wider diversity of ethnic stylization - though that wouldn't necessarily mean access across all bloodlines in a given empire. |

Blue Rook
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Posted - 2012.01.02 21:32:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:And what would stop that Minmatar capsuleer from flying into Minmatar space?
Amarr aren't going to be able to hunt him there, many Minmatar corps would take him in, remove the tracker and give him a job to pay for his license/clones. Also under concord law, only the capsuler himself would be allowed to decide where his clone location was set to.
You can't enslave a capsuler unless they want to be 'enslaved' and then its not really enslavement.....
O certainly, nothing can stop him if he decided. Actually at one point he ran away to Angel Cartel because there was an unusually large collection of freedom fighters that he then took to Minmatar space to fund an upgrade to his ship and bolster the liberation of more of his people. In the end his mater caught him and it was a sad state of affairs.
The meta catch is The Amarr has access to the Slave's Concord License (read: username and password) so there is no escape for the poor fellow.
As meta as it all is, there are absolutely ways for a slave to earn it's freedom with help and motivation. But, it's just as feasible that said capsuleer slave could be prevented/discouraged from grasping the opportunity of freedom.
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Blue Rook
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Posted - 2012.01.02 21:37:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:And what would stop that Minmatar capsuleer from flying into Minmatar space?
Amarr aren't going to be able to hunt him there, many Minmatar corps would take him in, remove the tracker and give him a job to pay for his license/clones. Also under concord law, only the capsuler himself would be allowed to decide where his clone location was set to.
You can't enslave a capsuler unless they want to be 'enslaved' and then its not really enslavement.....
Partially agreed, fundamentally the primary component of slavery is removing a fellow humans will to fight back for their own freedom IMO. Physical restraint is only a component of slavery. |

Blue Rook
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:14:00 -
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Ghoest wrote:
You are doing a bit of semantic sleight of hand.
You are correct and on the nose. Though, I did/do understand the/your contextual usage of magnify.
Unfortunately I'm not overly impressed with with societies ability to maintain an accurate and consistent awareness of history. I'll take what I can get, as far as whatever it takes to ensure that the present and future retain a memory of certain blunders of humanity.
Ofcourse not all historical tragedies such as slavery, genocide, and similar depravity are exaggerated (magnified). Enough of them have been dragged into the present social recall as one-liners or tasteless humor I'm ashamed to say. But like I said, I'll take what I can get. |
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